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Following the cancellation of PEN America’s annual literary awards ceremony as well as its World Voices Festival, acclaimed poet Monica Youn joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about political protests and literary prizes. Youn recounts the sequence of events that led her and eight other finalists for PEN’s $75,000 Jean Stein Book Award—as well as a number of nominees in other categories—to withdraw their work from consideration in protest of PEN’s position on Gaza. She explains how PEN’s efforts regarding Gaza and Palestine have failed to match its advocacy for writers in danger in other places, like Ukraine, and discusses whether the organization is living up to its mission to protect free expression. She also describes the situation for student protesters on her own campus, the University of California, Irvine. Youn reads from her most recent collection, From From.
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This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Monica Youn
From From
Blackacre
Ignatz
Barter
Others:
"PEN America calls off awards ceremony amid criticism over its response to Israel-Hamas war," by Hillel Italie |AP News
"The PEN Awards and World Voices Festival Are on the Brink of Collapse," by Dan Sheehan | Literary Hub
"A Leading Free Expression Group Is Roiled by Dissent Over Gaza," by Jennifer Schuessler | The New York Times
American Writers Against the Vietnam War | Wikipedia
Fiction/Non/Fiction: Season 5, Episode 10: “‘How on Earth Do You Judge Books?’ Susan Choi and Oscar Villalon on the Story Behind Literary Awards”
Anthony Cody
Mai Der Vang
Suzanne Nossel
Natalie Diaz
“PEN Union Cries Foul in Contract Talks as Criticism of PEN America Intensifies,” by Jill Milliot and Sophia Stewart | Publishers Weekly
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Writer Brandy Jensen joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about polyamory’s place in the contemporary imagination. Jensen discusses the connections between polyamory and politics, noting its links to queer community and its defiance of normative gender roles. She analyzes protections for the rights of multiple-partner relationships in Massachusetts, New York, and California. Jensen also considers the language of polyamory and how it has been portrayed in current and past literature, especially science fiction. She reads from her recent Yale Review article, “The Polycrisis.”
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Brandy Jensen
“The Polycrisis” | Yale Review
Others:
More: A Memoir of Open Marriage by Molly Roden Winter
“On the Cover of New York: A Practical Guide to Polyamory,” by Priyanka Mantha | New York Magazine
“Lessons From a 20-Person Polycule: How they set boundaries, navigate jealousy, wingman their spouses and foster community.” by Daniel Bergner | The New York Times Magazine
“Polyamory, the Ruling Class’s Latest Fad,” by Tyler Austin Harper | The Atlantic
“Scenes from an Open Marriage,” by Jean Garnett | The Paris Review |June 29, 2022
Oneida Community
Octavia Butler
N.K. Jemisin
Sally Rooney
American Poly: A History by Christopher Gleason
Couplets: A Love Story by Maggie Millner
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Author Claire Messud joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about how the lines between autobiography and fiction blur, and the ways that families—real and imagined—hide their true histories. Messud’s new novel, This Strange Eventful History, out Tuesday, draws on her own family’s complex past, including their connections to French colonialism in Algeria. Messud talks about using her grandfather’s 1,500-page handwritten memoir as source material, creating a story that spans the globe, how ordinary lives intersect with history, and including a character interested in questioning, editing, translating, and transforming family tales into a story for a different audience, as writers often do. She reads from the novel.
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This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Amanda Trout.
Claire Messud
This Strange Eventful History
The Last Life
The Woman Upstairs
The Emperor’s Children
The Burning Girl
Kant’s Little Prussian Head and Other Reasons Why I Write
A Dream Life
The Hunters
Others:
France in Algeria
The Art of Losing by Alice Zeniter
Elias Canetti
Alice Munro
Ulysses by James Joyce
In an Antique Land by Amitav Ghosh
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 4, Episode 7, Claire Messud and Brendan O’Meara on Creative Nonfiction in an Era of ‘Fake News’
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Authors and organizers Leah Hunt-Hendrix and Astra Taylor join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about the concept of solidarity, its reliance on relationship-building, and how it has been expressed in political movements, from recent pro-Palestine activism in the U.S. to the Polish organization Solidarność, a trade union founded in the 1980s. Hunt-Hendrix and Taylor, authors of a new book called Solidarity: The Past, Present, and Future of a World-Changing Idea, also reflect on how solidarity relates to their own work. Hunt-Hendrix recalls her dissertation on solidarity, and Taylor discusses her role as a founder of the Debt Collective, a union of debtors. They interrogate two kinds of solidarity, transformative and reactionary, as they exist across the political spectrum, and read from Solidarity.
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This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Llewyn Crum.
Leah Hunt-Hendrix and Astra Taylor
Solidarity: The Past, Present, and Future of a World-Changing Idea by Leah Hunt-Hendrix and Astra Taylor
Capitalism Cries: Class Struggles in South Africa and the World by Leah Hunt-Hendrix, William K. Carroll, Vishwas Satgar
The Age of Insecurity: Coming Together as Things Fall Apart by Astra Taylor
Others:
The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together by Heather McGhee
There’s Going To Be Trouble by Jen Silverman
The Elementary Forms of Religious Life, a Study in Religious Sociology by Emile Durkheim
Fiction/Non/Fiction: Season 7, Episode 29, “Jen Silverman on Generational Divides in American Politics”
“Zibby Owens withdraws sponsorship for the National Book Awards over its ‘pro-Palestinian agenda,’” by Dan Sheehan | LitHub
Solidarność
“The Triumph and Tragedy of Poland’s Solidarity Movement,” by David Ost | Jacobin | August 24, 2020
A Land for All
Standing Together
Emory is Everywhere (via Twitter)
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Author and journalist Tracie McMillan joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about the concept of the “white bonus” and how systemic bias generates white wealth not only in daily life but across generations. She references racial covenants, incarceration rates, and housing codes that continue to impact families, Black and white, to this day. She comments on the challenges of writing about her own experiences while also working as a journalist, and reads an excerpt from her new book, The White Bonus: Five Families and the Cash Value of Racism in America.
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This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Charlie Sheckells.
Tracie McMillan
The White Bonus: Five Families and the Cash Value of Racism in America
The American Way of Eating
City Limits
Others:
Racism without Racists: Color-Blind Racism and the Persistence of Racial Inequality in America by Eduardo Bonilla-Silva
"The Man Who Made the Suburbs White," by Mark Dent | Slate
The King of Kings County by Whitney Terrell
The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together by Heather McGhee
Men We Reaped by Jesmyn Ward
Heavy by Kiese Layman
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1, Episode 24, Part I: “Jess Row and Timothy Yu on Whiteness and Writing About Race”
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1, Episode 24, Part II: “Jess Row and Timothy Yu on Learning From Writers Who Write About Race”
“What’s Your Bonus” | Thewhitebonus.com
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As the presidential election heats up and President Joe Biden struggles to keep young voters’ support, novelist Jen Silverman joins co-host V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss generational divides in U.S. politics. Silverman, whose new book, There’s Going to Be Trouble, follows the political and sexual awakenings of a father and daughter in different eras, talks about how young people’s involvement in politics now compares to previous generations’ engagement. They address the question of whether today’s 20-something voters are more likely to protest than vote, consider how social media and technology relate to in-person conversations and activism, and reflect on the need to name and engage with the failures of earlier generations. Silverman also explains why they chose to write about anti-Vietnam War protests at Harvard in 1968 and the gilet jaunes (Yellow Vest) protests in Paris fifty years later, and reads an excerpt from There’s Going to Be Trouble.
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This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Alijah Smith.
Jen Silverman
There’s Going to Be Trouble
We Play Ourselves
The Island Dwellers
Bath
The Moors
Others:
Family Ties (television sitcom)
Changing Partisan Coalitions in a Politically Divided Nation | Pew Research Center
“Who Are France's Yellow Vest Protesters, And What Do They Want?” by Jake Cigainero | NPR, December 3, 2018.
“The Generational Rift that Explains Democrats’ Angst over Israel” by Steven Shepard and Kelly Garrity | Politico, October 12, 2023
“Less than Half of Young Americans Plan to Vote in 2024, Harvard Poll Finds” by Joseph Konig | Spectrum News
“Young Voters are Unenthusiastic about Biden, but He Will Need Them in 2024” by Dan Balz | The Washington Post
“Climate Activists Target Jets, Yachts and Golf in a String of Global Protests Against Luxury” by David Brunat | AP News
“The Weapons French police use During Protests” by Jean-Philippe Lefief and Marie Pouzadoux | Le Monde, April 6, 2023
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 7, Episode 24: “Emily Raboteau on Mothering and Climate Change”
The Diary of Virginia Woolf, Volume 5 by Virginia Woolf
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In the wake of the news that Kate Middleton, the Princess of Wales, has cancer, author S.L. (Sandi) Wisenberg joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about the control that public—and private—figures should have over the disclosure of their diagnoses. Wisenberg, who survived breast cancer, and Terrell, who was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer, name books they have read that have helped them discover humor in their journey from testing to treatment, and reflect on the challenging nuances of what it means to have cancer. They talk about how and when they decided to tell their loved ones, friends, and students about their condition. Wisenberg reads from her 2009 book The Adventures of Cancer Bitch, which will be reissued in paperback in October.
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This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Jasmine Shackleford.
S.L. (Sandi) Wisenberg
The Adventures of Cancer Bitch
The Sweetheart Is In
Holocaust Girls
The Wandering Womb
Others:
“Princess of Wales Apologizes, Saying She Edited Image,” by Mark Landler and Lauren Leatherby | The New York Times
Kate Middleton announces her cancer diagnosis | NBC News
Time on Fire: My Comedy of Terrors by Evan Handler
Cancer Made Me a Shallower Person: A Memoir in Comics by Miriam Engelberg
Memoir of a Debulked Woman by Susan Gubar
Our Cancer Year by Harvey Pekar and Joyce Brabner
The Cancer Journals by Audre Lorde
Dr. Susan Love’s Breast Book by Susan Love
Señor Wences
American Splendor
Running in the Family by Michael Ondaatje
Dick York
Nora Ephron
Carl Bernstein
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In anticipation of the total solar eclipse forecast for April 8, author and journalist David Baron joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss his award-winning book, American Eclipse, which chronicles the remarkable solar eclipse of 1878. Baron, a self-proclaimed umbraphile, or eclipse chaser, explains why he chose to write about the Wild West-era event, which darkened skies from Montana to Texas. He also talks about what has driven him to see eight total solar eclipses across the globe. As the upcoming eclipse is forecast to affect a sizable swath of the U.S.—the last time this will happen until 2045—he reflects on why these rare occurrences captivate humanity and discusses how their lore has influenced famous writers, including Mark Twain and Emily Dickinson. He reads from American Eclipse.To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Amanda Trout.David BaronAmerican Eclipse: A Nation's Epic Race to Catch the Shadow of the Moon and Win the Glory of the WorldBeast In The Garden: The True Story Of A Predator’s Deadly Return To Suburban AmericaTED Talk: "You owe it to yourself to experience a solar eclipse"Others:"It Sounded as if the Streets Were Running" by Emily DickinsonKing Lear by William Shakespeare The Eclipse by James Fenimore Cooper"Battle of the Eclipse in the Lydian and Median War of Ancient Greece" | GreekBoston.com A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by Mark TwainTeaching a Stone to Talk: Expeditions and Encounters by Annie DillardSuperman IV: The Quest for PeaceLog Your Eclipse | Eclipse-Chasers.com“Eclipse Literature” by Lara Dodds | Northwestern UniversityThe Eclipse, or the Courtship of the Sun and the Moon
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In anticipation of the total solar eclipse forecast for April 8, author and journalist David Baron joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss his award-winning book, American Eclipse, which chronicles the remarkable solar eclipse of 1878. Baron, a self-proclaimed umbraphile, or eclipse chaser, explains why he chose to write about the Wild West-era event, which darkened skies from Montana to Texas. He also talks about what has driven him to see eight total solar eclipses across the globe. As the upcoming eclipse is forecast to affect a sizable swath of the U.S.—the last time this will happen until 2045—he reflects on why these rare occurrences captivate humanity and discusses how their lore has influenced famous writers, including Mark Twain and Emily Dickinson. He reads from American Eclipse.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf and Amanda Trout.
David Baron
American Eclipse: A Nation's Epic Race to Catch the Shadow of the Moon and Win the Glory of the World
Beast In The Garden: The True Story Of A Predator’s Deadly Return To Suburban America
TED Talk: "You owe it to yourself to experience a solar eclipse"
Others:
"It Sounded as if the Streets Were Running" by Emily Dickinson
King Lear by William Shakespeare
The Eclipse by James Fenimore Cooper
"Battle of the Eclipse in the Lydian and Median War of Ancient Greece" | GreekBoston.com
A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court by Mark Twain
Teaching a Stone to Talk: Expeditions and Encounters by Annie Dillard
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
Log Your Eclipse | Eclipse-Chasers.com
“Eclipse Literature” by Lara Dodds | Northwestern University
The Eclipse, or the Courtship of the Sun and the Moon
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Novelist Sally Franson joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about Fashion Week 2024, the role fashion plays in characterization, and how stylish authors and characters have modeled and influenced tastes and trends. Franson reflects on her time working in the industry and discusses insiders’ perceptions of various Fashion Weeks around the globe. She discusses literary style icons including Isabel Archer, Nancy Mitford, James Baldwin, and Bridget Jones, and considers the influence of fashion in her first novel, A Lady’s Guide To Selling Out, which has just been reissued in paperback. She reads an excerpt from that book.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Sally Franson
A Lady’s Guide To Selling Out
Big In Sweden (forthcoming)
"Shoe Obsession for the Ages: Prince’s Killer Collection of Custom Heels, Now on View" August 3, 2021 | The New York Times
Others:
"Top 10 best-dressed characters in fiction" by Amanda Craig, July 1, 2020 | The Guardian
“The Best Looks from New York Fashion Week Fall/Winter 2024” | Elle.com
"Off the page: fashion in literature" by Helen Gordon, September 18, 2009 | The Guardian
"Literature-inspired menswear collections for summer 2024" by Paschal Mourier| France24
"Anna Sui’s new collection is inspired by Agatha Christie, so obviously the runway was at the Strand." by Emily Temple | Literary Hub
James Baldwin
Joan Didion
Not-Knowing by Donald Barthelme
Rachel Comey and The New York Review of Books
The Pursuit of Love by Nancy Mitford
Bridget Jones’s Diary by Helen Fielding
Vile Bodies by Evelyn Waugh
Little Women by Louisa May Alcott
The Portrait of a Lady by Henry James
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Following a record-smashing performance by University of Iowa basketball star Caitlin Clark, now the all-time leading scorer in NCAA Division I basketball, novelist and former professional squash player Ivy Pochoda joins host V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about portrayals of women athletes in media, literature, and film. Pochoda considers the gender binary that continues to divide most sports and how athletes from Serena Williams to Lynette Woodard to Clark have been treated differently due to systemic bias. She discusses the lack of adult literary fiction featuring women athletes, as well as her new favorite novel in this category, the Booker-nominated Western Lane. Pochoda also reflects on how her athletic training helps her as a writer and reads an excerpt from a middle grade fantasy book she wrote with Kobe Bryant, Epoca: The Tree of Ecrof, in which sports play a central role.
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This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Ivy Pochoda
Sing Her Down
These Women
Wonder Valley
Visitation Street
Epoca: The Tree of Ecrof (with Kobe Bryant)
Others:
“Caitlin Clark's record-setting night fuels No. 6 Iowa in 108-60 win at Minnesota,” by Marielle Mohs |CBS News
“Fox Sports to Feature Caitlin Clark Solo Camera on Tiktok for Iowa-Maryland Game,” by Tim Capurso | Sports Illustrated
“We did not help build women’s tennis for it to be exploited by Saudi Arabia,” by Chris Evert and Martina Navratilova |The Washington Post
“Caitlin Clark passes Lynette Woodard for major-college record,” by Michael Voepel | ESPN
Nyad |Official Trailer
A League of Their Own | Official Trailer
“‘Western Lane’ Finds Solace From Grief on the Squash Court,” by Ivy Pochoda |The New York Times
Western Lane by Chetna Maroo
"In This Satire, Televised Blood Baths Offer Prisoners a Path to Freedom|You can’t applaud Nana Kwame Adjei-Brenyah’s thrilling debut novel, 'Chain-Gang All-Stars,' without getting blood on your hands." by Giri Nathan, April 28, 2023 | The New York Times
Borg vs. McEnroe | Official Trailer
"R. R. Knudson, a Writer Whose Subject Was Sports, Dies at 75," by Dennis Hevesi, May 10, 2008 | The New York Times
Ghost by Jason Reynolds
The President’s Daughter by Ellen Emerson White
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Writer Emily Raboteau joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about mothering in the face of climate change and systemic inequality. Raboteau discusses the difference between “resilience” and “trauma-informed growth,” and considers which one more realistically describes how people react to devastation. She also reflects on writing about Indigenous communities and histories, developing language to capture shifting environmental realities, and the intersections of climate and racial justice. Finally, she explains the influence of her late father, Albert Raboteau, a groundbreaking professor of African American religion, on her community-minded approach to these topics. She reads from Lessons for Survival, her new collection of essays about care and mothering in the climate crisis.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Emily Raboteau
Lessons for Survival: Mothering Against “the Apocalypse”
Searching for Zion: The Quest for Home in the African Diaspora
The Professor’s Daughter
“Climate Signs”|The New York Review of Books, February 1, 2019
“Lessons in Survival”|The New York Review of Books, November 21, 2019
“The Unequal Racial Burdens of Rising Seas”|The New York Times, April 10, 2023
“Gutbucket”|Orion Magazine
Others:
Fiction/Non/Fiction: Season 2, Episode 15: “Emily Raboteau and Omar El Akkad Tell a Different Kind of Climate Change Story”
“Special Report: Global Warming of 1.5 ºC”|Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, October 2018
“UN Says Climate Genocide Is Coming. It’s Actually Worse Than That” by David Wallace-Wells|New York Magazine, October 10, 2018
The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming by David Wallace-Wells
“Young Readers Ask: The Uninhabitable Earth by David Wallace-Wells” by Geronimo Lavalle|Orion Magazine, April 9, 2019
“In Pictures: New York Under a Haze of Wildfire Smoke|Le Monde, June 7, 2023
Rising: Dispatches from the New American Shore by Elizabeth Rush
“Why Indonesia Is Shifting Its Capital From Jakarta”|Bloomberg, August 24, 2019
“Sea Level Rise and Implications for Low-Lying Islands, Coasts and Communities”|Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, September 2019
“Managed Retreat through Voluntary Buyouts of Flood-Prone Properties” by Katherine J. Mach et. al.|Science Advances, October 9, 2019
“Climate Change Isn’t the First Existential Threat” by Mary Annaïse Heglar|ZORA, February 18, 2019
Anya Kamenetz
“‘Culture Will Be Eroded’: Climate Crisis Threatens to Flood Harriet Tubman Park”|The Guardian, November 23, 2019
Charleston: Race, Water, and the Coming Storm by Susan Crawford and Annette Gordon-Reed
Justin Brice Guariglia
Albert Raboteau
Slave Religion: The "Invisible Institution" in the Antebellum South by Albert Raboteau
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Writer Briallen Hopper joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about in vitro fertilization and the recent Alabama State Supreme Court ruling declaring that frozen embryos have the same rights as children. Hopper speaks about the science and thought behind freezing embryos versus eggs, as well as the religious language embedded in the court’s decision. She reads an excerpt from a 2019 Washington Post essay about her choice to freeze embryos as a single person and reflects on repeating the process later, with a partner.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Briallen Hopper
Hard to Love: Essays and Confessions
Gilead Reread (forthcoming, Columbia University Press)
“Single Women Looking to Extend their Fertility Usually Freeze Eggs. I Froze Embryos.”|Washington Post, May 10th, 2019
Others:
James LePage, et al. v. The Center for Reproductive Medicine and Mobile Infirmary Association | Supreme Court of Alabama
The Human Life Protection Act | Alabama - May 15, 2019
Tammy Duckworth | Access to Family Building Act
Dobbs | The Supreme Court - June 24, 2022
The Radical Freedom Of IVF by Krys Malcolm Belc, Romper
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Rachel Bitecofer, author of the new book Hit ’Em Where It Hurts: How to Save Democracy by Beating Republicans at Their Own Game, joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk shop about the election strategies Democrats should implement to combat Republicans and prevent fascism. Bitecofer discusses how Republicans use “negative partisanship” to win elections by slamming Democrats as a whole, and argues that Democrats must turn the tables and attack the GOP’s now-extremist brand, which poses an urgent threat to Americans. Bitecofer reads from a section of Hit ’Em Where it Hurts that describes what it means to “wedge” an issue, and talks about how Democrats can do this.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Rachel Bitecofer
Hit ’Em Where It Hurts: How to Save Democracy by Beating Republicans at Their Own Game, with Aaron Murphy
Others:
Dobbs | The Supreme Court
State of the Union Address 2023
Project 2025: Presidential Transition Project
Stephen Miller (Southern Poverty Law Center)
"At CPAC, Stephen Miller Describes His Plan to Round Up Migrants into Camps and Deport Them" | MediaMatters for America
"The Benghazi Timeline, Clinton Edition” by Eugene Kiely, June 30, 2016 | factcheck.org
Hur Report | The Justice Department
"Trump vows to end birthright citizenship for children of immigrants in US illegally" by Ted Hesson | Reuters
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As the 2024 Presidential race heats up, award-winning fiction writer Margot Livesey joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss the value of seeing the future in politics and in family life. Are the polls right? Will Donald Trump beat President Joe Biden in the November election? Livesey talks about the role predictions play in our political landscape and in her new novel, The Road from Belhaven, in which a young woman named Lizzie Craig, raised by her grandparents in 19th century Scotland, has the gift of second sight. Livesey discusses the ways that literature has handled the concept of “seeing the future” over time, including the role second sight plays in Macbeth. She reads from her novel.
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This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Margot Livesey
The Road From Belhaven
The Boy in the Field
Homework
Eva Moves The Furniture
The Flight of Gemma Hardy
Others
Daniel Deronda by George Eliot
Fiction/Non/Fiction: Season 3, Episode 24: “Summer Books Extravaganza: Margot Livesey and Jaswinder Bolina on Beach Reading When the Beach is Closed”
Fiction/Non/Fiction: Season 5, Episode 35: "Boris Johnson: Margot Livesey on British Politics, the Brexit Blunder, and the Prime Minister’s Lies"
No Great Mischief by Alistair MacLeod
The Thirty-Nine Steps by John Buchan
Till We Have Faces by C.S. Lewis
Macbeth by William Shakespeare
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling
Gravity’s Rainbow by Thomas Pynchon
L.M. Montgomery
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Two years after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, novelist, journalist, and veteran Matt Gallagher joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss the current state of the Russo-Ukrainian war and why the country desperately needs the emergency aid in a bill currently under consideration in Congress. Gallagher, whose new novel Daybreak is set in Ukraine, weighs in on where the U.S. stands on the war by comparing it to military conflicts of the past, from World War II to more recent involvements in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. He also reflects on how reporting and training civilians in Ukraine influenced Daybreak, in which an Army veteran explores his own motivations for aiding the country’s fight for freedom as well as the flawed, messy realities of war. He reads from the novel.
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This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Matt Gallagher
Daybreak
Empire City
Youngblood
“This is no time to give up on Ukraine” by Matt Gallagher | Boston Globe
“There Are Only Two Options Left in Ukraine” by Matt Gallagher | Esquire, Nov. 20, 2023
“The Secret Weapons of Ukraine” by Matt Gallagher | Esquire, Feb. 23, 2023
“My Advice for American Veterans Who Want to Get On a Plane to Ukraine” by Matt Gallagher | The New York Times, April 10, 2022
“Notes from Lviv” by Matt Gallagher | Esquire, March 31, 2022
Others:
“Ukraine is resorting to attacking Russia with small drones because it's running out of artillery ammunition” by Tom Porter | Business Insider
“Ukraine and Israel Aid Bill Inches Ahead as Divided G.O.P. Demands Changes” by Karoun Demirjian | The New York Times, 2024
The Forever War by Joe Haldeman
The Forever War by Dexter Wilkins
“What Should a War Movie Do?” by Whitney Terrell | The New Republic, Nov. 21, 2016
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1, Episode 1: The Art of Taking a Knee: Colin Kaepernick Edition
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 4, Episode 13: Cancellation or Consequences? Meredith Talusan and Matt Gallagher on Accountability in Literature
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 5, Episode 9: Anton Troianovski and Marci Shore on a Possible Russian Invasion of Ukraine
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6, Episode 2: How Dostoevsky’s Classic Has Shaped Russia’s War in Ukraine, with Explaining Ukraine’s Tetyana Ogarkova and Volodymyr Yermolenko
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6, Episode 51: Tetyana Ogarkova and Volodymyr Yermolenko on How Artists Are Responding to the War in Ukraine
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Novelist Jacinda Townsend and writer James Bernard Short join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about the movie American Fiction, which is based on the novel Erasure by Percival Everett. Townsend and Short discuss how the film addresses race in the publishing industry via its central character, Black author Thelonious “Monk” Ellison, who tries to make an ironic point by writing a book exploiting Black stereotypes and finds, to his dismay, that it’s received in earnest and a bestseller. Townsend and Short analyze director Cord Jefferson’s approach and the film’s themes of family dysfunction, freedom in storytelling, and the importance of portraying the complexity of Black lives.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Jacinda Townsend
Mother Country
Saint Monkey
James Bernard Short
“Aqua Boogie” | Blood Orange Review
“Rootwork” | Blood Orange Review
“Flash, Back: Langston Hughes’ The Simple Shorts” | SmokeLong Quarterly
Others:
American Fiction (movie) | Official Trailer
Erasure by Percival Everett
An American Marriage by Tayari Jones
Harlem Shuffle by Colson Whitehead
Sag Harbor by Colson Whitehead
Salvage the Bones by Jesmyn Ward
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
Thelonious Monk
Ralph Ellison
Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
“The Little Man at Chehaw Station” by Ralph Ellison | The American Scholar, 1978
The Tuskegee Institute
White Negroes by Lauren Michele Jackson
“The White Negro” by Norman Mailer | Dissent, 1957
“Dragon Slayers” by Jerald Walker | The Iowa Review, 2006
“The Hidden Lesson of ‘American Fiction’” by John McWhorter | The New York Times
Origin (movie) | Official Trailer
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1, Episode 11, “Annihilation, Adaptation: What's It Really Like to Have Your Book Made Into a Movie”
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 2, Episode 11, “Brit Bennett and Emily Halpern on Screenwriting’s Tips for Fiction”
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6, Episode 33, “The Stakes of the Writers’ Strike: Benjamin Percy on the WGA Walkout, Streaming, and the Survival of Screenwriting”
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6, Episode 38, “Jacinda Townsend on Why Democrats Are Skeptical of President Biden—and How He Can Win Them Back”
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With AWP’s annual conference headed to Kansas City next week, poet and activist Glenn North joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to tell incoming writers where to find the best food and coolest hangouts in the city. North discusses Kansas City’s diversity, its history of racial covenants, and its newly rejuvenated Crossroads Arts District, which is near the convention site. North and Terrell, who also lives in Kansas City, highlight a variety of spots to check out, including the Green Lady Lounge, Swordfish Tom’s, The Blue Room, the American Jazz Museum, and Kansas City’s not-to-miss barbeque scene. North reads his poem, “Harmony on the Vine,” about the 18th & Vine Historic Jazz District, where he is the current poet laureate, as well as an excerpt from his poem for the 25th anniversary of the American Jazz Museum.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Glenn North
City of Song
Check Cashing Day
Love, Loss, and Violence: A Visual Dialogue on War
Others:
American Jazz Museum
Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art
Kansas City Museum
The Arabia Steamboat Museum
World War I Museum
Union Station
Kansas City Public Library
BLK + BRWN
Bliss Books & Wine
Rainy Day Books
Wise Blood Booksellers
Writer’s Place
Green Lady Lounge
Afterword
The Mutual Musicians Foundation
21c
Corvino
Farina
Extra Virgin
Anton’s
Soriée
Lulu’s
Jarocho
Prime Social
Earl’s Premier
River Market
Country Club Plaza
Gates Bar-B-Q
Jack Stack Barbeque
Bryant’s Barbeque
Joe’s Kansas City Bar-B-Que
Q39
LC’s Bar-B-Q
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Novelist Ed Park joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss the role of alternate histories and counternarratives in popular culture, public record, and the general consciousness, via his new novel, Same Bed Different Dreams. Park talks about depicting and reimagining well known events and eras, including the Japanese occupation of Korea between 1910-1945; Korean resistance to that occupation in the form of the Korean Provisional Government; the post-World War II division of Korea into North and South, which became sovereign nations in 1948; and the Korean War, which lasted from 1950 to until 1953. He reflects on writing about more recent history, as well as his hometown of Buffalo, New York. The conversation suggests that positive alternate timelines, like the one Park creates, invite readers to learn more about actual events, whereas a more pernicious spin on the past may edit for the benefit of a particular group. Park reads from the novel.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.
Ed Park
Same Bed Different Dreams
Personal Days
Weird Menace
Others:
Charlie Kaufman
Philip Roth
Richard E. Kim
Jack London on Korea
Thomas Pynchon
BTS
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Journalist Nate Rawlings, who spent a stint as a speechwriter for then-Vice President Joe Biden, joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about the politics (and nuances) of plagiarism. Rawlings discusses how plagiarism accusations derailed Joe Biden’s presidential run in 1987. He examines how the right-wing activist-led plagiarism accusations against former Harvard President Claudine Gay fit into the context of prior plagiarism scandals, and considers the possibility that new technologies like AI will intensify future politically motivated attacks. He also reflects on why some plagiarism allegations stick and shift opinion, and others don’t.
To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/
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Nate Rawlings
Nate Rawlings | TIME.com
Others:
"The North’s Jim Crow" by Andrew W. Kahrl|The New York Times, May 27, 2018
"How We Squeezed Harvard to Push Claudine Gay Out" by Christopher Rufo | Wall Street Journal
Grace: President Obama and Ten Days in the Battle for America by Cody Keenan
What It Takes: The Way to the White House by Richard Ben Cramer
"Plagiarism charges downed Harvard’s president. A conservative attack helped to fan the outrage" by Collin Binkley and Moriah Balingit | AP
Elise Stefanik
Claudine Gay
“Echoes of Biden’s 1987 plagiarism scandal continue to reverberate” by Neena Satija | The Washington Post, June 5, 2019
Democratic Primary Debate, August 23, 1987
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6, Episode 46, “Samuel G. Freedman on What Hubert Humphrey’s Fight for Civil Rights Can Teach Us Today”
Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6, Episode 16, “Chatbot vs. Writer: Vauhini Vara on the Perils and Possibilities of Artificial Intelligence”
Nadia Schadlow, Small Wars Journal
Peggy Noonan
“Boys of Pont du Hoc” speech by Peggy Noonan for Ronald Reagan, June 6, 1984
“I see the boys of summer,” by Dylan Thomas
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