Episodes
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💭 How can a country defining itself as an high-tech spearheader can embrace IT sustainability? Japan is a fascinating example of both the contradictions and the synergies that such a journey creates.
🎙️ In this episode, Gael Duez welcomes two long-time Japan-based experts: Paul Beddie, VP and Sustainability Lead at Capgemini, and Trista Bridges, the co-author of Leading Sustainably, and a member of EcoVadis' Purpose Committee. Their exchange on IT sustainability initiatives in Japan led to many takeaways including:
🤝 the stakeholder-oriented nature of Japanese society,
🌱 the emergence of Japanese startups focusing on sustainability,
⚖️ the role of regulations in driving sustainability efforts in Japan,
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💭Decarbonizing tech stacks and platforms? This is the challenge many CTO face these days.
🎙️In our 42th episode, 2 CTOs with different backgrounds and operating in different lines of business cross share their experience in reducing the environmental footprint of their operations. Ludi Akue, former Lunii’s CTO, and Owen Rogers, .eco’s CTO meet Gael Duez to share their insights and reflect on each other journeys in sustainability.
Some Takeaways:
🌐 pro and con of migrating infrastructure to a lower carbon region,
⚙️ how to leverage technical debt to boost decarbonization,
💰 when does optimization pay for decarbonization,
⚠️ the pitfall of creating a separate program to steer sustainability,
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☁️ What can AWS users achieve today in terms of decarbonization? And what can they expect tomorrow?
🎙️ In this episode, Gael Duez welcomes Adrian Cockcroft, the former creator and leader of the AWS sustainability team who now leads the Green Software Foundation project “Real Time Cloud”. They had an in-depth chat about measuring carbon for software and the sustainability challenges of Cloud providers, starting with AWS. Some of Adrian’s takeaways were:
⚡ The case for PPA and market based approach facing the AI energy-hungry boom
☀️ Why we should not chase the sun
🌱 Sustainability of the Cloud vs Sustainability in the Cloud and other architecture tips
☁️ His confidence in getting a standard for Cloud-based GHG emissions
🤝 Why AWS internal structure prevented sustainability to ramp-up and why it should change
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🤔 Why do we do so little to decarbonize software despite already knowing so much?
🎙️ In this episode, Gael Duez is joined by Janne Kalliola, author of "Green Code," together with Satu Heikinheimo, Planet Diplomats’ founder, to discuss how to trigger more actions among Tech people to reduce the carbon footprint of our code.
🌍 Both being based in Finland, a nice side-benefit of their exchange was exploring how the Nordic countries handle the environmental footprint of digital technology.
Key takeaways:
🏃 trend of employees considering resigning if their company's values don't align with their own,
🤝 importance of collaboration among multidisciplinary teams to create sustainable digital products and services,
⚙️ concept of carbon-neutral software and the choice of focusing mostly on energy consumption, and
💡 Nordic approach to trust, self-organization, and low hierarchy in fostering psychological safety and agency for individuals to drive sustainable initiatives -
🔎 Major regulations have been built up in Europe these past years impacting the Tech sectors. How have they been built? What does it take to pass these kinds of bills in the unique European Union political system? And what are the consequences for the people working in the digital industry?
🎙️ This episode 39 welcomes Kim Van Sparrentak, a Member of the European Parliament involved in legislation related to tech and sustainability, and Max Schulze, the founder and chairman of the Sustainable Digital Infrastructure Alliance, one of the main lobby groups for more responsible technology. Together with Gael Duez, they share their perspective on the European regulations in Tech.
Some points which have been discussed:
⚖️ the Artificial Intelligence Act,
🌱 Environmental transparency among actors, and
🤝 the Influence of big tech companies through lobbying -
🔎 What are the main angles to be covered when you truly want to design, run, and sometimes decommission, software, in the greenest possible way?
🎙️ In this episode, Sara Bergman, a seasoned software engineer and one of the acclaimed co-authors of the O’Reilly book “Building Green Software” joins Gael Duez to discuss the book, and more specifically the chapters on AI, measurements, and hardware.
Some takeaways:
💻 Software people’s responsibility in utilizing hardware
🌡️ Concept of temperature-aware computing
☁️ Importance of major cloud providers
🌱 Some follow-up on the discussion on carbon-aware vs grid-aware computing for more effective environmental impact -
💡In product management, there is a strong culture of adapting to change, testing, and rapid learning. Talking about change, we have a big big one ahead of us: climate change! How can product leaders include climate considerations into the build and run of digital services and scale sustainable practices?
🎧In this episode, Gael interviewed two hands-on experts and daily practitioners in product management on how to become a climate-conscious PMs. Antonia Landi, based in Germany, is a strong voice in ProductOps, and François Burra, based in Canada, is the co-author of the Climate Product Management Playbook.
What product manager should consider?
🌱 Environmental impact throughout the product life cycle,
💻 Minimalistic approach on user experience,
🎯 Climate-related OKRs and reducing costs through intentional data storage. -
📈 44 cm water level rise under the IPCC business as usual scenario.
This number shows that climate change is very real for Singaporeans and for their data centers, close to 10% of the whole of APAC!
🎧In episode 36, Gaël Duez discussed with Professor PS Lee, National University of Singapore Dean's Chair of Mechanical Engineering and one of the top experts worldwide on data center cooling, the challenges in making data centers sustainable.
🔍Some key points of their exchange are:
🌡️ why temperature rise has multiple downside,
⚡ energy challenges that affects the sustainability of data centers,
❄️ liquid cooling technology as an important option,
🗺️ why lessons from DC operating in tropical climate apply almost everywhere.
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⚙️Cybersecurity and sustainability do share a complex relationship!
The two approaches share commonalities, such as grappling with resistance from teams and executives and prioritizing resilience, but they also seem to split in notable ways such as constant updates in cybersecurity impacting bloatware and equipment obsolences.
🎧In this episode Gaël Duez invited two experts on the field, Mary Prokhorova from InDevLab and Michael Oghia from Datacenter Changemakers, to discuss the nuances of cybersecurity and sustainability’s relationship.
🔎Some few takeaways from their conversation are:
💡the critical role of IT infrastructure in modern business processes
💡importance of protecting critical infrastructure to avoid environmental damage and societal impacts
💡significance of investing in digital infrastructure to support the green revolution and highlighting the impact of climate risks on both physical and digital security -
🎙️In our latest episode, Hannah Smith, the COO of the Green Web Foundation, and Ismael Velasco, the founder of the Adora Foundation, highlight the potential pitfalls of Carbon Aware Computing a strategy that aims to reduce carbon emissions by aligning software operations with the carbon intensity of the energy grid. While this approach has gained traction among the IT industry, including giants such as Apple, Microsoft, and Google, Hannah and Ismael discuss with our host Gaël Duez its complexities and limitations.
💻As they explored the nuances of Carbon Aware Computing, it gave us insights that while it holds promise as a tool for reducing emissions, it also poses challenges that must be carefully considered. The oversimplification of energy grid dynamics and the myriad factors that influence carbon intensity underscore the need for a more comprehensive understanding of sustainable computing practices. -
🔍How open source software slashes energy consumption, extends hardware lifespan, and drives sustainability?
🎙️In this episode, Gael Duez as he unravel the intricate relationship between open source software and IT sustainability together with Oliver Cronk, the host of Architect Tomorrow podcast and Sustainable Technology practice lead at Scott Logic (UK), alongside his software engineer colleague Katie Davis.
💡Open source software (OSS) and hardware (OSH) are not just benefiting companies, but also driving global sustainability efforts. With insights from a recent HBR study revealing OSS's monumental impact on reducing software development costs, the stage is set for an insighful conversation.
💻Katie breaks down the key to OSS success: transparency. Learn how freely available code empowers developers to make efficient, sustainable choices, while Oliver highlights the importance of common hardware standards and circularity to combat waste and inefficiency.
📊Dive into the battle for open-source data transparency with Katie, and explore Oliver's vision for the tech community's future direction. From reducing emissions with initiatives like the Tech Carbon Standard to innovative projects like the Cloud Carbon Footprint tool and the Open Compute Project, the episode is packed with actionable insights and inspiring solutions. -
How can we make systemic design operational for sustainable design?
🔧Systemic design is dedicated to handling complex systems, complex questions, and complex issues.
Sounds familiar with Sustainability? But if things are so complex how digital product people willing to design sustainably can embrace them?
In this episode, we dive deep into the world of systemic design and how it can help us increase digital sustainability. Don't miss out on insights from Sylvie Daumal (acclaimed author of 'Design d'expérience utilisateur' ) and Thorsten Jonas (founder of the SUX Network), as Gaël Duez discusses the operationality of systemic design in Tech. -
How do we tackle the Green IT blind spot?
🏞️ In many big corporations, IT is never number one, number two, even number three for GHG emission sources (and other environmental factors). But everyone working in the digital sustainability sector knows that, actually, little streams make big rivers with the digital sector accouting for around 4% of global emissions.
📏 In this episode we explore a very concrete case of measuring IT footprint in a massive corporation: ABB Motion with Thomas Mosser (ABB) and Fiona Leibundgut (SparkIT Consulting). How to kick start, how to leverage the Resilio tool which they chose, how to scale, etc. And the insights shared can be used in smaller organisations as well! -
0.9g of CO2e. It’s pretty ridiculous when you think about it. According, the French SRI association this is the carbon footprint for a 10K prints digital campaign with a 200k image. So not a big deal?
Not that simple because we’re talking about volumes in trillions per day here. So maybe it’s a good idea to dive a little deeper on the environmental impact of digital marketing after all.
Hence we brought 2 experts in AdTech with a soft spot for Sustainability: Diarmuid Gill is Criteo’s CTO since 2019 and has been in Digital Advertising for more than 15 years. Audrey Danthony has also a long career in AdTech, she started her first company, Oxeva, during the dot-com boom when she was still a student at engineering school. And 2 years ago she pivoted and founded with 2 partners Impact+ with the aim of reducing Greenhouse Gas emissions in digital advertising.
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We don't always need a science-fiction device "à la Star Trek" to get transported somewhere else.
Discussing with Maxime Blondeau results in such a journey where I discover how anthropology, geography, and cosmology can help us understand better digital technologies and more specifically:
🤯 Why Digital Tech is not the first mind revolution humanity has gone through
🌪️ Why its magnitude will be as impactful as the previous ones
🗺️ How our representation of an over expanding digital world alters our perception of our material world
🧠 Why our attention is such a precious - and increasingly scarce - resource
🎁 Plus a breaking news shared by Maxime at the end of the episode!
📣 Before rushing to listen to this 29th episode, do not forget to book your ticket for the Green IO conference in Paris, December 8th.
Join us to get the latest insights on Digital Sustainability with Aurore Stéphant, Perrine Tanguy, Tristan Nitot, Julia Meyer, Theo Alves Da Costa, Pindy Bullar, Vincent Poncet, and more! Get also feedback from all the teams involved in the 2023 Sustainable Digital Challenge: Allianz, Axa, BlaBlaCar, BNP Paribas Cardif, Ekwateur, Evaneos, Groupama, INSEE, Leboncoin, Norauto, SNCF!
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🤯 AI is all the rage at the moment but what about its impact?
🌱 Especially its environmental cost?
🛑 Does it mean we should stop leveraging this tool?
🏃 Can we extract ourselves from this rat race?
AI comes with many questions and this episode comes with a clear angle to debate it: how do data experts specialized in impact business such as Lou Welgryn and Theo Alves Da Costa - the 2 founders of the NGO Data for Good - and Anastasis Stamatis - the founder of Dataphoria - answer these questions?
It’s not that much about the training, go for a factor 10, … A lot of counterintuitive answers and great food for thoughts!
📣 Green IO launches its first conference in partnership with Apidays. If you are in Paris December 8th join us to get the latest insights on Digital Sustainability with Aurore Stéphant, Perrine Tanguy, Tristan Nitot, Julia Meyer, Theo Alves Da Costa, all the teams involved in the Sustainable Digital Challenge 2023 and many more!
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Meeting Asim Hussain, the Green Software Foundation’s Director, is always an uplifting experience and this episode makes no exception. A patchwork episode where we talked about:
When we finally have the chance to meet with Asim Hussain the Director of the GSF, the episode becomes a crazy mailbag one where we talked about:
🙌 How trust and consensus can work in an organization gathering small and agile NGO with Tech multinationals,
🔧 Which tools shall we pick to report about carbon and which ones to build more carbon-efficient software,
📈 How a simple yaml file could boost comparisons and operability of green software,
🌿 And yes … a bit about psychedelic medicine also 🙂
📣 Green IO launches its first conference in partnership with Apidays. If you are in Paris December 8th join us to get the latest insights on Digital Sustainability with Aurore Stéphant, Perrine Tanguy, Tristan Nitot, Julia Meyer, Theo Alves Da Costa, all the teams involved in the Sustainable Digital Challenge 2023 and many more!
And it's free for our listeners! Register at https://conference.greenio.tech/ with the voucher GREENIOVIP. We're looking forward seeing you there.
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This episode is not in Spanish or Portuguese but it might have been 🙂
With Catalina Zapata - founder of La Web Verde community in Colombia - and Ismael Velasco - founder of the Adora foundation and based in Mexico - Gaël Duez explores the momentum of Digital Sustainability in Latin America as well as the pitfalls it faces. From COP21 memories to the structure of the IT industry in LATAM, both guests share unconventional wisdom as well as tips for any IT workers based in LATAM to green the Web.
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What if you could get sued if your website is not low-carbon enough? What if you would be barred from many call for tenders if your digital services don’t hit minimum sustainability requirements?
Science-fiction?
This is what people said on 5 May 1999 when the first version ever of the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines was released by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C). 20 years later, these pitfalls are day-to-day concerns for many digital companies and digital service providers.
On August 31st this year, the W3C released its first ever Sustainability Guidelines (draft version). Ines Akrape and Lukas Mastalerz, two of its core contributors, share insider insights in this episode on how it will impact the way of working for millions of web developers, designers, ops and data folks. And why we will certainly not wait 20 years for this to happen…
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How do you decarbonize your operations when most of the action takes part outside of your organization? 🕵️
This is the issue SaaS companies face with IT sustainability. 🌱
In the latest Green IO episode I (Gaël Duez) sat down with Tereze Gaile to get insights from Salesforce’s approach. Tereze is the lead author of the “Sustainability Guide for Salesforce Technology”. We also partnered in this episode with Niklas Sundberg, author of “Sustainable IT Playbook for Technology Leaders” and a pillar of sustainableit.org to take a step back on Salesforce’s feedback and get a broader context.
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