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Dave and Stephanie dig into what caused voters to ignore Donald Trump’s felony convictions, indecency, incompetence, narcissism, and dishonesty – and elect him president. This includes a review of the 50-year war waged by the mega-rich and corporations to undermine civility, compassion, equity and rule of law, to elevate the free enterprise system, rob the working class and enrich themselves. The Lewis Powell Memo kicked this into high gear 50 years ago.
They also propose theories about why Dave’s campaign for president failed in its mission to alert the public, media and policymakers to the ecological overshoot emergency.
Clips: Desi Lydic on The Daily Show on Comedy Central and Jimmy Kimmel on Jimmy Kimmel Live on ABC.
Mentioned in this episode: Donald Trump, Kamala Harris, Elon Musk, Steven Spielberg, Bill Gates, Chris Hedges, Thom Hartmann, William Kristol, Andrew Egger, Dan Lashoff of World Resources Institute, American Petroleum Institute, Guttmacher Institute, American Enterprise Institute, Hoover Institution, Cato Institute, Heritage Foundation, Mercatus Center, Warren Beatty, Jane Fonda, Terry Spahr, John McCain, Reagan, Bush, Grist.
We invite your feedback, including thoughts about the recent election, and promise to share some of your comments on the next episode. Call and leave a voice message (which we may play on that episode) by dialing +1-719-402-1400. Or send an email to podcast at growthbusters dot org.
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Desi Lydic Reacts to Trump's Election Win & the Media's Blame Game | The Daily Show
https://youtu.be/hPHH5trgC1w?si=vww-V3qoIRpLCgmHJimmy Kimmel Reacts to Donald Trump Winning the Presidential Election
https://youtu.be/5JxELubSgJg?si=v9LRIHd5FqDZCQLfStrong Economy Begins With Shrinking Workforce - Episode 84 of the GrowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/strong-economy-shrinking-workforce/Dave the Planet – Dave’s campaign Substack column
https://davetheplanet.substack.comI’m Withdrawing from the Race for U.S. President - Episode 21 of the Dave the Planet podcast
https://davetheplanet.substack.com/p/im-withdrawing-from-the-race-forWelcome to Overshoot: Have a Nice Day – episode of the Conversation Earth podcast
http://www.conversationearth.org/welcome-to-overshoot-2020/Trump Wins, Planet Loses – by Tik Root on Grist
https://grist.org/article/the-massive-consequences-trumps-re-election-could-have-on-climate-change/If Trump Wins, Is It Game Over? – by David Todd McCarty on Medium
https://medium.com/rome-magazine/if-trump-wins-is-it-game-over-26f1cc296342The Billionaires Won: The 50-Year War on Democracy That Built Trump's Oligarchy and Killed the American Dream – by Thom Hartmann
https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-billionaires-won-the-50-year-841The Lewis Powell Memo: A Corporate Blueprint to Dominate Democracy
https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/democracy/the-lewis-powell-memo-a-corporate-blueprint-to-dominate-democracy/Tentacles of Rage: The Republican Propaganda Mill, a Brief History – by Lewis Lapham
https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/gned/laphamtentacles04.pdfDave the Planet Substack column
https://davetheplanet.substack.com/Dave Gardner for President
https://davetheplanet2024.com
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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society’s growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture’s obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.
Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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A new study debunks depopulation panic. For decades economists have perpetuated the false narrative, “If population growth reverses and begins to decline, the economy is doomed.” This belief has so frequently been repeated by economists, politicians, business people and the public, that it is generally taken as gospel. Psychologists have characterized the phenomenon as the illusory-truth effect, or believing something to be true if it’s repeated often enough, even if it is false.
For the first time in modern history, a handful of countries are witnessing actual population declines. The data is now available to separate reality from what has heretofore been baseless theory.
An October 2023 study conducted by Professors Theodore Lianos, Anastasia Pseiridis and Nicholas Tsounis, published in Humanities and Social Sciences Communications and featured on Nature.com examined volumes of economic data of twenty countries experiencing population declines. To their surprise, virtually every country with a contracting population enjoyed reduced unemployment, increased wages, and a larger real GDP per capita!
Guest-host Terry Spahr, Executive Director of Earth Overshoot, speaks with the study’s authors to illuminate their findings that dispel the firmly entrenched false notion that endless growth is the only path to economic salvation.
Guests:
Theodore Lianos
Professor, Athens University of Economics and BusinessAnastasia Pseiridis
Assistant Professor of Economics, Department of Economics and Regional Development
Panteion UniversityRegular co-hosts Dave Gardner and Stephanie Gardner are taking a break from the podcast while Dave runs for U.S. President this year. If you would like to guest-host a podcast, email us with details of the episode you would like to produce and host.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Declining Population and GDP Growth
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-023-02223-7Summary published at The Overpopulation Project
https://overpopulation-project.com/declining-population-and-gdp-growth/Earth Overshoot
https://www.earthovershoot.org/Dave Gardner's Campaign
https://davetheplanet2024.comGive Us Feedback:
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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society’s growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture’s obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.
Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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We made it VERY clear that Musk’s worries about population collapse are ill-founded, and that attracted thousands more listeners than usual to our podcast. How did that happen? What kind of comments did we get? Find out in this episode. And get important truths about overshoot and overpopulation.
Plus, learn how we’ll give YOU the mic for an episode of the GrowthBusters podcast. We explain the long wait for this episode, and share our offer to listeners to “adopt” a future episode to discuss an aspect of limits to growth important to you.
If you do want to guest-host an episode, email us your proposal. Include a paragraph or two about you, and a paragraph or two about your proposed topic, guest, approach, etc.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
Eight Billion is Too Many: Don’t be a Twit About Overpopulation (Episode 73 of the GrowthBusters podcast)
https://www.growthbusters.org/8-billion-is-too-many/This episode on YouTube (so you can read the comments)
https://youtu.be/cKPnJU59tHw?si=rmkxk4mU9YT3d5G7Paul Ehrlich on The Limits to Growth (Episode 70 of the GrowthBusters podcast)
https://www.growthbusters.org/ehrlich-limits-to-growth/GrowthBusters Podcast YouTube channel
https://youtube.com/@growthbusterspodcastDave the Planet 2024 (Dave Gardner’s campaign for U.S. President)
https://davetheplanet2024.comGrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth – Dave’s 2011 documentary, now available free on YouTube
https://growthbustersmovie.orgEpisode graphic includes a photo of Elon Musk by Steve Jurvetson, CC BY 2.0 , via Wikimedia Commons. We turned him on his side and added the fire.
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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society’s growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture’s obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.
Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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The Michigan Governor is apparently unaware that the world, the U.S. and even Michigan are overpopulated. Michigan population has been growing a little too slowly for her taste, so Whitmer has appointed a Chief Growth Officer and formed the Growing Michigan Together Council. Not surprisingly, her bottom line is to “spur economic growth.”
In an episode you should share with YOUR governor, you’ll get the details and find out why this news puts “a bee in Dave’s bonnet,” plus news about some outstanding new studies, a wonderful commentary in Newsweek, a crazy podcast you’ll like, and a possible candidate for U.S. President.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
A Just World on a Safe Planet: First Study Quantifying Earth System Boundaries
https://www.pik-potsdam.de/en/news/latest-news/a-just-world-on-a-safe-planet-first-study-quantifying-earth-system-boundariesGov. Whitmer Appoints Michigan’s First-Ever Chief Growth Officer (news release)
https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/news/press-releases/2023/06/01/whitmer-appoints-michigans-first_ever-chief-growth-officerGov. Whitmer Establishes the ‘Growing Michigan Together Council’ to Focus on Population Growth, Building a Brighter Future for Michigan (news release)
https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/news/press-releases/2023/06/01/whitmer-establishes-the-growing-michigan-together-council-to-focus-on-population-growthGretchen Whitmer Keynote Address at Mackinac Policy Conference
https://youtu.be/jTfnZbSZRpMArizona Announces Limits on Construction in Phoenix Area as Groundwater Disappears
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/01/us/arizona-phoenix-groundwater-limits-development-climate/index.htmlMass Immigration Experiment Gives Canada an Edge in Global Race For Labor
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com//nri/work/mass-immigration-experiment-gives-canada-an-edge-in-global-race-for-labor/articleshow/101100076.cmsSaying Out Loud What Others Won't Even Whisper About Climate Change – by Kirsten Stade
https://www.newsweek.com/saying-out-loud-what-others-wont-even-whisper-about-climate-change-opinion-1806109Population Growth is the Main Driver of Increased Carbon Emissions, Study Finds
https://phys.org/news/2023-04-population-growth-main-driver-carbon.htmlCrazy Town podcast – Post Carbon Institute
https://www.resilience.org/crazy-town-podcast/Learn more about possible presidential campaign
https://davetheplanet2024.wixsite.com/dave-the-planetShop and Sell Your Clothes Sustainably With These 13 Buyback and Resale Programs
https://www.ecowatch.com/clothes-buyback-resale-programs.htmlRecycle or Purchase Used Levi’s Jeans
https://www.secondhand.levi.com/trade-in
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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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Are many vegans self-righteous, overbearing and insufferable in their efforts to recruit us? Would you believe “overpopulation” is still a taboo word? Or that human population numbers are still an “off-limits” topic at some conferences? This episode continues the conversation we began in episode 79 with five smart people:
Nandita Bajaj, executive director of Population Balance
Sarah Bexell, director of humane education at the Institute for Human Animal Connection at University of Denver
Paul Sutton, professor of geography & the environment at DU
Stephanie Gardner, co-host of the GrowthBusters podcast
Dave Gardner, co-host of the GrowthBusters podcast
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Population Balance
https://populationbalance.orgPopulation Denialism is Reminiscent of Climate Denialism - by Kirsten Stade
https://www.ipsnews.net/2023/05/population-denialism-reminiscent-climate-denialism/Pro-Birth Policies Are Killing Us – by Nandita Bajaj and Kirsten Stade
https://www.newsweek.com/too-much-good-thing-pronatalism-killing-earth-opinion-1784197
Pronatalism & Overpopulation: The Personal, Cultural, and Global Implications of Having a Child (Course at Antioch University taught by Nandita Bajaj)
https://www.populationbalance.org/pronatalism-and-overpopulation-course
Backpedalling on Overpopulation – by Rory Cockshaw
https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/backpedalling-on-overpopulation
Trains, Plants and Condoms: How to Save the Planet in 3 Simple Steps – by Rory Cockshaw
https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/trains-plants-and-condoms
Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World – by Anand Giridharadas
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/37506348
The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market – by Dr. Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/57693264
How Free-Market Fundamentalism Fuels Overpopulation Denialism & Undermines Democracy – Episode of The Overpopulation Podcast with Naomi Oreskes
https://www.populationbalance.org/podcasts/naomi-oreskes
President Condemns ‘Obsession’ With Economic Growth
Irish President Michael D Higgins speaks out against growth
https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/04/28/president-condemns-obsession-with-economic-growth/
Welcome To MAGA World: Trump Wants 'Freedom Cities' Where Cars Can Fly, Parents Get 'BONUSES' for Having Babies and Huge Monuments are Built to 'True American Heroes' in 'Quantum Leap' Vision for the Future
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11818381/Trumps-2024-pitch-New-cities-flying-cars-babies.html
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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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Students in a DU ecological economics class discuss their biggest concerns and how our society might overcome them. Overshoot, polarization, the American Dream, politics, selfish individualism, and the capitalism growth imperative are among the topics explored – as GrowthBuster Dave Gardner sits down with leaders of tomorrow.
Dave is joined by Professor Paul Sutton at the University of Denver and students Lilia Davis, Julia Gainey, Cassienne Levan, Nathan Cox, Mikey Ford, Geordie Shonk, Elsa Krantz, and Alexandra Van de Water. Surprisingly, all the students seem to have a clear picture of how deadly serious our overshoot predicament is, but - just as surprisingly - optimism wasn’t found wanting.
MENTIONED:
GrowthBusters Campus Tour
https://www.growthbusters.org/campus-tour/
What Do College Students Think Their Future Holds? – Episode 65 of the GrowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/college-students-think/
Overshoot: World’s Best Introduction – Episode 57 of the GrowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/overshoot-worlds-best-introduction/
G7 Clean Energy Economy Action Plan - May 20, 2023 Statement
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/05/20/g7-clean-energy-economy-action-plan/ -
Five thought leaders break the silence on the role of human overpopulation in ecological overshoot –with an informed, engaging conversation about the subject. This is what intelligent discourse sounds like.
For thirty years, many people – some well-intentioned – have been trying to silence discourse about human overpopulation. One of our goals on the GrowthBusters podcast is to break that silence, and this episode does that well by bringing together three great thinkers – actually five, educators and crusaders on the subject. The occasion was a visit to Colorado by Nandita Bajaj, executive director of Population Balance and co-host of The Overpopulation Podcast.
Nandita designed & teaches the first graduate course on Pronatalism & Overpopulation: The Personal, Cultural, and Global Implications of Having a Child at the Institute for Humane Education at Antioch University. As a bonus, we were joined by her hosts from the University of Denver, Paul Sutton and Sarah Bexell. Sarah leads DU’s Center for Sustainability and teaches at the Institute for Humane Education. Paul is Professor in the Department. of Geography & the Environment, and teaches geographic statistics, population geography, and ecological economics.
The conversation covers a lot of ground – pronatalism, animal rights, human rights, and collaboration.
LINKS:
Pronatalism & Overpopulation: The Personal, Cultural, and Global Implications of Having a Child -Nandita’s course at Antioch University
https://www.populationbalance.org/pronatalism-and-overpopulation-courseAbortion Bans Are a Natural Outgrowth of Coercive Pronatalism – by Nandita Bajaj, in Ms. magazine
https://msmagazine.com/2022/06/07/abortion-bans-coercive-pronatalism-forced-birth/Dismissal of “Population Alarmism” is Rooted in Pronatalist Ideology – by Nandita Bajaj
https://www.indepthnews.net/index.php/opinion/5709-dismissal-of-population-alarmism-is-rooted-in-pronatalist-ideologyChallenging Pronatalism Is Key to Advancing Reproductive Rights and a Sustainable Population – by Nandita Bajaj and Kirsten Stade
https://www.whp-journals.co.uk/JPS/article/view/819Coercive Pro-Birth Policies Have Devastating Impacts on People and the Planet
– in Newsweek, by Nandita Bajaj and Kirsten Stade
https://www.newsweek.com/too-much-good-thing-pronatalism-killing-earth-opinion-1784197Population Balance
https://www.populationbalance.org/The Overpopulation Podcast
https://www.populationbalance.org/podcastsCountdown - by Alan Weisman
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17332183-countdownMechai Viraveidya
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechai_ViravaidyaOverpopulation Facts - The Problem No One Will Discuss - Alexandra Paul’s TedX talk
https://youtu.be/fNxctzyNxC0Population Media Center
https://www.populationmedia.org/The Green Growth Delusion – 1st installment of new series, Green Tinted Glasses – by Christopher Ketcham
https://www.truthdig.com/dig/green-tinted-glasses/MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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Why do discussions of overpopulation often elicit emotional responses of fear, anger, or indignation? Are anger and indignation what prevents productive discussion of population? These responses in a graduate college class provide an opportunity to explore how we might pave the way for productive conversations. Our guest in this episode, Professor Christopher Bystroff of Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute wonders whether a “global therapy session” could end what he describes as a “global, sullen silence.” We need intelligent discourse on the subject, but too often it is being shut down.
Open, honest, and factual discussion of the human overpopulation crisis can put an end to the myths, misassumptions and misinformation that cloud the subject. Spoiler alert: we don’t find a fast-acting, magic solution, but Dave does come up with one good idea – “a pill that makes men more mature.”
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Chris Bystroff
https://faculty.rpi.edu/chris-bystroff
Footprints to Singularity: A Global Population Model Explains Late 20th Century Slow-Down and Predicts Peak Within Ten Years – by Chris Bystroff
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0247214
Don’t Reduce Your Footprint! – by Mathis Wackernagel
https://www.footprintnetwork.org/2023/01/18/dont-reduce-your-footprint/?
You Deserve the Truth About Overpopulation – by Dave Gardner (in our Ending Overshoot Medium publication)
https://medium.com/ending-overshoot/you-deserve-the-truth-about-overpopulation-784f40e46902
I’m Thankful Smart People are Telling the Truth
https://medium.com/ending-overshoot/im-thankful-smart-people-are-telling-the-truth-654f3ae27155
Ending Overshoot – publication on Medium
https://medium.com/ending-overshoot
Overshoot: World’s Best Introduction – episode 57 of the GrowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/overshoot-worlds-best-introduction/
Jimmy Kimmel for Vice President
http://jk4vp.com/Recommended by Tom in Listener Feedback:
Fossil Fuel Fascism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGlrX6lA9O8The Fossil Fuel Industry is a Factory of Fairy Tales, Says Activist and School Strike for Climate Organizer Luisa Neubauer
https://www.ted.com/talks/luisa_neubauer_the_fairy_tales_of_the_fossil_fuel_industry_and_a_better_climate_story/comments
The Last Tourist
https://thelasttouristfilm.com
Al Bartlett Growth and Sustainability Lecture October 27, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O133ppiVnWY&t=1806sJoin the GrowthBusters online community
https://growthbusters.groups.io/GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth – free on YouTube
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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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The news that China’s massive population dropped by nearly a million people last year was almost universally reported as a “crisis.” In this episode we unpack the news coverage and take journalists to task for completely overlooking the fact that, in an overpopulated world, population contraction should be greeted with a collective sigh of relief.
The population news was accompanied by an announcement that China’s economy grew by only three percent, less than half the previous year’s 8.1 percent. This, too, was reported as bad news for China. Of course, obsession with GDP growth is what’s driving China’s recently-found determination to convince its citizens to start birthing more laborers. And globally the GDP growth fetish is killing the planet.
Dave explains how China’s efforts to keep its population growing are an effort to perpetuate a Ponzi scheme, and this is not the behavior of a good global citizen. “We need to make one-child families the norm, for the next hundred years, if we want those children to have any shot at a decent life.”
We give special attention to the reporting of Steve Inskeep on NPR’s Morning Edition, as well as Geoff Bennett of PBS NewsHour. These journalists should have a much more comprehensive understanding of limits to growth and the unsustainability of perpetual economic and population growth.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:China’s Population Can Still Prosper - by Catherine Bowen and Vegard Skirbekk
https://www.wired.com/story/china-fertility-population-decline-demography-economics/Mainstream Media Blindness to China’s Depopulation Dividend - by Jon Austen, in our Ending Overshoot publication on Medium
https://medium.com/ending-overshoot/mainstream-media-blindness-to-chinas-depopulation-dividend-419e708e460Now Here’s What We Call an Eco-Superhero - Episode 76 of the GrowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/eco-superhero/Join the GrowthBusters online community
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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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Getting take-out in your own reusable container, recycling bubble-wrap properly, and getting arrested – it’s all in a day’s work for an eco-superhero. Stephanie and Dave learn about climate activism with Extinction Rebellion, sharing quirky sustainability life hacks on social media, and the joy of a 58-hour train trip – from Stephanie’s former co-worker and friend, James Comiskey.
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why James is angry and thinks he has a right to be if #AmtrakLife should be your new favorite hashtag why Steve Bannon wears three shirts at one time why Dave proposes we organize a conference for journalists (spoiler, we can’t resist: to “deprogram” the pro-growth bias that’s been instilled in them)
LINKS:Before the Flood – documentary
https://www.beforetheflood.com/James Comiskey on Instagram
https://www.instagram.com/jamescomiskey/Avoiding Air Travel and Going by Train
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmALljmPh9-/Reusable Take-Out
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJcnt_vnGhb/The One About Bubblewrap
https://www.instagram.com/p/CSQOPcfn4Uj/List of Multiple Discoveries (from John’s email about invetntions)
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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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More men are stepping up and taking responsibility for avoiding unplanned parenthood. Dave celebrates this trend as he shares GrowthBusters plans for the new year in this special year-end mini-episode. A typical vasectomy takes about ten minutes. It’s much less invasive, and less expensive, than the equivalent procedure for women.
GrowthBusting highlights for next year:
GrowthBusters online community continues into its second year, developing resources and providing support for sustainability activists.
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Mentioned in this Episode:Fewer Abortions, More Vasectomies: Why the Procedure May Be Getting More Popular
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/20/1143639556/vasectomies-dobbs-roe-abortion-contraception
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Examining news coverage and commentaries about human population passing 8 billion on November 15, we unpack the reasons far too many of us avoid discourse about human overpopulation. Why are we tap-dancing around the very dialogue needed so people around the world can make informed, responsible family-size decisions? We conclude the guilt many feel about their privilege is actually hurting those who don’t share our fortune.
Also, find out why Black Friday was really bleak, and how TV networks refused to run Buy Nothing Day commercials. Plus, should Dave get over his obsession with phantom power and wall warts? And, how do you approach the occupant of an idling vehicle and educate them about wasting gas and needlessly polluting – without getting shot?
LINKS:
GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth – the documentary (see it free)
https://tinyurl.com/growthbustersmovieWorld Population Hits 8 Billion: What Do People on the Street Think? – our YouTube video
https://youtu.be/ncT-J5BsVuc8 Billion is Too Many: Don’t be a Twit About Overpopulation – Episode 73 of GrowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/8-billion-is-too-many/Child-Free by Choice: The Birth Rate Crisis Gripping the West - by Rosa Silverman in the UK Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/family/parenting/child-free-choice-birth-rate-crisis-gripping-west/World Population At 8 Billion Humans -- And Still Growing – AFP story by Amélie BOTTOLLIER-DEPOIS
https://www.barrons.com/news/world-population-at-8-billion-humans-and-still-growing-016677864078 Billion People: A Milestone by the Numbers – by Jennifer Sciubba at Population Reference Bureau
https://www.prb.org/articles/8-billion-people/Earth at 8 Billion: Consumption Not Crowd is Key to Climate – AP story by Seth Borenstein
https://apnews.com/article/science-africa-pollution-climate-and-environment-1c70df435acda74301ff2df96a86dd43The Human Eco-Predicament: Overshoot and the Population Conundrum – by William Rees in the Vienna Yearbook of Population Research 2023
https://www.austriaca.at/0xc1aa5576_0x003dcfa1.pdfBending the Curve - by Chris Tucker
https://www.whp-journals.co.uk/JPS/article/view/761/515Global Population About to Hit 8 Billion - by William Ryerson (Population Media Center) and Kathleen Mogelgaard (Population Institute)
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/3712763-global-population-about-to-hit-8-billion/8 Billion Day Facts and Myths: A Guide to the 8 Billion Global Population Milestone on 15 November – by Sustainable Population Australia
https://population.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Briefing-Note-8-Billion-Day.pdfCrisis Point: The World at 8 Billion People - Fact Sheet from Population Matters
https://populationmatters.org/resources/the-world-at-8-billion-people/Has the Population Bomb Exploded? - by Julian Cribb
https://juliancribb.blog/2022/11/02/has-the-population-bomb-exploded/Buy Nothing Day TV commercial produced by Adbusters in 1999
https://youtu.be/UOqRXBJgapQInternet Spreads Word as Networks Shun Adverts for Buy Nothing Day
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2000/nov/24/internetnews.internationalnewsHerman Daly commemorative sampler from CASSE
https://steadystate.org/in-commemoration-a-sampling-of-herman-daly/Economic Heresy – Herman Daly on the Conversation Earth radio series/podcast
http://www.conversationearth.org/economic-heresy/I’m Thankful Smart People Are Telling the Truth: Economic and Population Growth Need to End ASAP – by Dave Gardner at Medium
https://medium.com/ending-overshoot/im-thankful-smart-people-are-telling-the-truth-654f3ae27155NYC Anti-Idling Law Turns Into Huge Payday ($125K for One Man) for Citizens Who Report
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/investigations/nyc-anti-idling-law-turns-into-huge-payday-125k-for-one-man-for-citizens-who-report/3637231/Idle Threat – 2012 documentary
https://www.videoproject.org/Idle-Threat.html19-minute free version
https://cultureunplugged.com/documentary/watch-online/play/53634/Idle-ThreatMENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth – free on YouTube
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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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While Elon Musk erroneously claims population collapse is our biggest worry, world population is hitting 8 billion, adding the latest billion faster than any time in history. The UN has declared world population will surpass 8 billion on November 15, 2022. We persist in adding about 80 million people to the planet every year, despite overwhelming evidence we’ve outgrown our planet.
Christopher Tucker, author of A Planet of 3 Billion: Mapping Humanity’s Long History of Ecological Destruction and Finding Our Way to a Resilient Future, joins Dave in a conversation intended to help cure the rampant overshoot illiteracy resulting from misguided silence on the subject. This illiteracy is demonstrated as Dave shares his new YouTube video (link below) about the 8 billion milestone.
Tucker shares his disappointment in United Nations messaging around World Population Day (July 11) and the 8 billion milestone, and Dave turns his criticism up to eleven. He makes this important point about the silence on overshoot and overpopulation:
If responsible people don’t talk about these issues, irresponsible people will – and they’ll spread disinformation and perpetuate the negative attitudes we want to avoid.
The conversation also turns to coercive pronatalism, a topic that may be new to some listeners. It’s surprisingly pervasive.
LINKS:8 Billion is Too Many: Don’t be a Twit About Overpopulation - by Dave Gardner on Medium
(we’ll post this link here later today)World Population Hits 8 Billion: What Do People on the Street Think? - new YouTube video by Dave Gardner
https://youtu.be/ncT-J5BsVucNew Rule: Let the Population Collapse - Bill Maher
https://youtu.be/HB97iwcm_QcA Planet of 3 Billion: Mapping Humanity’s Long History of Ecological Destruction and Finding Our Way to a Resilient Future - by Christopher Tucker
http://planet3billion.com/index.htmlBending the Curve by 2030: On the Path to a Population Safe Harbour - by Christopher Tucker
https://www.whp-journals.co.uk/JPS/article/view/761/515We Know How Many People the Earth Can Support – by Christopher Tucker
Journal of Population and Sustainability December 2020
https://www.whp-journals.co.uk/JPS/article/view/657How Many People Can the Earth Sustain? - The Stream on Al Jazeerah English 10/27/22
https://youtu.be/EStNKj5WNnISustain What: How Many Billions Can a Heating, Pandemic-Wrapped Planet Support? - A Sustain What chat hosted by Earth Institute’s Andrew Revkin
https://youtu.be/KkPIyR_SrO4Decline and Prosper! Changing Global Birth Rates and the Advantages of Fewer Children
(new book debunking aging and other depopulation fears)
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-91611-4Dismissal of “Population Alarmism” is Rooted in Pronatalist Ideology - by Nandita Bajaj https://www.indepthnews.net/index.php/opinion/5709-dismissal-of-population-alarmism-is-rooted-in-pronatalist-ideology
GrowthBusters Online Community
https://growthbusters.groups.io/GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth - 2011 documentary by Dave Gardner
https://tinyurl.com/growthbustersmovieGlobal Footprint Network - data on biocapacity, ecological footprint and overshoot
https://www.footprintnetwork.org/
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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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World population may peak this decade and start dropping, over 60% of Coloradans are fed up with the negative consequences of growth of their communities, a new online community and resource for sustainability advocates, Elon Musk keeps populating our conversations, and should Dave run for president of the U.S.?
Stephanie and Dave sit down with professors Paul Sutton and Chris Bystroff for a conversation that includes an update on Chris’ contraceptive vaccine and Paul’s COP26 experience.
We announce the launch of a new GrowthBusters online community for sustainability advocates. If you want to bring a speaker like Paul Sutton, Chris Bystroff or Dave Gardner to your campus, you can find out how to contact Nicole, our staffer who’s coordinating the GrowthBusters Campus Tour and the new online community. Stephanie shares a bit about greening her recent wedding, and Dave has shocking news about the carbon footprint of feeding dogs and cats (at least their typical diet).
LINKS:
Running Out of Gas - Episode 26 of the GrowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/running-out-of-gas-podcast-episode-26/World Leaders COP Out - Episode 62 of the GrowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/world-leaders-cop-out/Footprints to Singularity: A Global Population Model Explains Late 20th Century Slow-Down and Predicts Peak Within Ten Years - by Chris Bystroff
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.04.429734v1GrowthBusters Campus Tour
https://www.growthbusters.org/campus-tour/New GrowthBusters Online Community
https://growthbusters.groups.io/g/mainColorado Voters Worry State Becoming Too Crowded
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/july_2022/colorado_voters_worry_state_becoming_too_crowdedPlanet in Crisis podcast
https://www.scientistswarningeurope.org.uk/podcastEcological Economics with Prof Tim Jackson: Scientists Warning into Action COP26 Press Conference - Episode 25 of Planet in Crisis podcast
https://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/show/planetincrisis/id/22555061Video of the above
https://youtu.be/1EEm5P0h8pkHow to Have a Green Wedding - episode 25 of the GowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/green-wedding-episode-25/Sarah’s Wildlife Friendly Wedding - episode 47 of the GowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/wildlife-friendly-wedding/The Truth About Cats' and Dogs' Environmental Impact
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170802142835.htmGrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth – free on YouTube
https://youtu.be/_w0LiBsVFBo
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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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As we approach the 8 billion population milestone, activist/author Valorie Allen thinks it’s high time we stop avoiding the overpopulation subject. Yet here we are, on World Population Day 2022, and the UN is still beating around the bush, journalists rarely report on the subject (and when they do, it's usually with a pro-growth bias), and most environmental groups run and hide from it. Allen believes that we can bend the long-rising population curve soon and begin the needed contraction. But we must stop avoiding the subject, and we need to make a project of it.
As we observe World Population Day 2022, we share this insightful conversation with Valorie Allen, author of the new book, 8 Billion Reasons Population Matters: The Defining Issue of the 21st Century. This is a rich and comprehensive encyclopedia of history, information, opinion and inspiration.
After this conversation, Stephanie and Dave review recent “GrowthBusting News,” including new insanity from Elon Musk, outrageous ideas for overconsumption on hyperdrive, a new paper by Paul and Anne Ehrlich, and sad words of wisdom from actor Jeff Goldblum.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:UNFPA World Population Day 2022 Statement
https://www.unfpa.org/press/world-population-day-statement-2022UN Secretary-General's World Population Day Statement
https://www.un.org/en/observances/world-population-day8 Billion Reasons Population Matters - new book by Valorie Allen
https://books.friesenpress.com/store/title/119734000096587474Surviving the 21st Century - by Julian Cribb
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30420519-surviving-the-21st-centuryPopulation in Sync - Valorie Allen’s website
https://populationinsync.net/Paul Ehrlich on Limits to Growth - Episode 70 of the GrowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/ehrlich-limits-to-growth/Leaked Amazon Memo Warns the Company is Running Out of People to Hire
https://www.vox.com/recode/23170900/leaked-amazon-memo-warehouses-hiring-shortageElon Musk Breaks Silence on Birth of Secret Twins with 'Overpopulation' Joke
https://www.joe.co.uk/news/elon-musk-on-birth-secret-twins-overpopulation-joke-346768Elon Musk is Wrong: We Need Smaller Families
https://populationmatters.org/news/2021/12/elon-musk-wrong-we-need-smaller-familiesClimate Damage Caused by Growing Space Tourism Needs Urgent Mitigation
https://phys.org/news/2022-06-climate-space-tourism-urgent-mitigation.htmlNuclear-Powered Sky Hotel
https://youtu.be/ZrodDBJdGuoLet Them Eat Fermented Protein - Review of Monbiot book, Regenesis: Feeding the World without Devouring the Planet
https://literaryreview.co.uk/let-them-eat-fermented-proteinReturning to “Normal”? Evolutionary Roots of the Human Prospect - by Paul and Anne Ehrlich
https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/advance-article/doi/10.1093/biosci/biac044/6608897Your Kids Are Not Doomed - uninformed column by Ezra Klein
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/opinion/climate-change-should-you-have-kids.htmlCurrent Policies Will Bring ‘Catastrophic’ Climate Breakdown, Warn Former UN Leaders
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/02/current-policies-will-bring-catastrophic-climate-breakdown-warn-former-un-leadersFor 50 Years, Governments Have Failed to Act on Climate Change. No More Excuses - by Christiana Figueres, Yvo de Boer and Michael Zammit Cutajar
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Biologist Paul Ehrlich reflects on the 1972 MIT study, The Limits to Growth, on its 50th anniversary – including the fact that it has been refuted (poorly), ignored, and confirmed. The study was done by a team of scientists commissioned by the Club of Rome to develop a computer model to simulate the interaction of earth and human systems. It revealed that continuation of the then-current trends in population, industrialization, resource use and pollution would result in overshooting the carrying capacity of the Earth and result in a general collapse at some point in the first half of the 21st century.
The study results were published in the 1972 book, The Limits to Growth, which holds the record as the top-selling environmental book. The book was authored by four system dynamics scientists (Donella Meadows, Dennis Meadows, Jørgen Randers, and William Behrens III). Gaya Herrington, whose 2020 analysis of The Limits to Growth was published in Yale’s Journal of Industrial Ecology, described the study and book aptly: “the authors identified society’s relentless pursuit of growth not as the solution to, but the cause of, so many of the environmental and social crises that plague humanity still today.”
“....what is it about Homo sapiens that leads us to the limits as a moth to a flame. Why don’t we stop? Why should we? Can we?” – Brian Czech, Executive Director of the Center for the Advancement of the Steady State Economy
Read The Limits to Growth:
Online Read, but includes scans of pages and downloadable charts
https://collections.dartmouth.edu/teitexts/meadows/diplomatic/meadows_ltg-diplomatic.htmlHigh Quality Scan
https://collections.dartmouth.edu/content/deliver/inline/meadows/pdf/meadows_ltg-001.pdf
Mentioned in Our Discussion of The Limits to Growth:Limits to Growth 50th Anniversary Events - on Club of Rome website
https://www.clubofrome.org/ltg50-events/UN Event June 2-3: Stockholm+50: a healthy planet for the prosperity of all – our responsibility, our opportunity
View live on the web:
https://www.stockholm50.global/events/programme
The Stockholm+50 Conference: What You Need to Know and Why It Matters
https://unfoundation.org/blog/post/the-stockholm50-conference-what-you-need-to-know-and-why-it-matters/
Take this survey before June 2: https://www.stockholm50.global/state-planet-global-public-surveyJune 10 seminar: Limits to Growth +50: Can Economies Keep Growing Indefinitely on a Finite Planet?
Organized by: Norwegian University of Life Sciences
https://www.nmbu.no/en/faculty/landsam/department/noragric/research/seminars/node/44433The Limits to Growth at 50: From Scenarios to Unfolding Reality - by Richard Heinberg
https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-02-24/the-limits-to-growth-at-50-from-scenarios-to-unfolding-reality/Limits and Beyond (New book April 2022 from the Club of Rome, a collection of essays)
https://exapt.press/books/limits-and-beyondNate Hagens interviews Dennis Meadows in his podcast, The Great Simplification.
https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/episode/12-dennis-meadowsDennis Meadows on the 50th Anniversary of the Publication of The Limits to Growth - interview by Richard Heinberg
https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-02-22/dennis-meadows-on-the-50th-anniversary-of-the-publication-of-the-limits-to-growth/Is Global Collapse Imminent? – by Graham Turner (2014)
The Limits to Growth “standard run” (or business-as-usual, BAU) scenario produced in 1972 aligns well with historical data that has been updated in this paper
https://sustainable.unimelb.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/2763500/MSSI-ResearchPaper-4_Turner_2014.pdfUpdate to Limits to Growth: Comparing the World3 Model with Empirical Data - by Gaya Herrington
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jiec.13084Come On! Capitalism, Short-termism, Population and the Destruction of the Planet - by Anders Wijkman and Ersnt Von Weizscker and with contributions from more than 30 members of the Club of Rome
https://mahb.stanford.edu/library-item/come-capitalism-short-termism-population-destruction-planet/What a 50-year-old World Model Tells Us About a Way Forward Today - by Gaya Herrington, now vice president of ESG Research at Schneider Electric and member of The Club of Rome’s Transformational Economics Commission
https://www.clubofrome.org/blog-post/herrington-ltg50/
In this episode, we also discuss these “growthbusting news” items:Walk Or Cycle Instead of Driving, Urges Ford Boss
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carltonreid/2022/05/16/walk-or-cycle-instead-of-driving-urges-ford-boss/?sh=2283c3ba3481New flight of fancy for billionaires – the Air Yacht
https://theuglyminute.com/2022/05/11/air-yacht/Back From a Touring Hiatus, Coldplay Pledges to Make Performances More Sustainable
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/14/1098947216/back-from-a-touring-hiatus-coldplay-pledges-to-make-performances-more-sustainablThe European Environmental Bureau has launched a campaign calling on the EU to refocus from GDP Growth to Wellbeing
Campaign Page: https://eeb.org/doughnuteconomicsforall/
https://meta.eeb.org/2022/05/12/doughnut-economics-how-to-bake-a-better-future/The 25% Revolution - film
https://vimeo.com/535791169GrowthBusters Called Me Extreme, So I Responded - episode of This Sustainable Life podcast by Joshua Spodek
https://www.podchaser.com/podcasts/this-sustainable-life-593342/episodes/583-growthbusters-called-me-ex-139440528Mobilising Humanity Film Premier at COP26 - Ed Gemmel described his nightmare in this episode of the Planet in Crisis podcast from Scientists Warning Europe
https://planetincrisis.libsyn.com/30-mobilising-humanity-film-premier-at-cop26
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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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While nary a week goes by that we don’t get a new report of the destruction we’re wreaking on our home planet, the news has been particularly bad over the last few weeks. Plus: Bill Maher, usually praised by us for speaking the truth, needs to get there on the benefits of a shrinking economy. We devote half of this episode to the news, and half to our swelling file of listener feedback.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
Population Decline is Part of the Solution - YouTube video (by GrowthBusters)
https://youtu.be/XXyyCY5IM6QPaul Ehrlich, Unfiltered – Episode 68 of the GrowthBusters podcast
https://www.growthbusters.org/paul-ehrlich-unfiltered/GrowthBusters Campus Tour
https://www.growthbusters.org/campus-tour/8 Billion Angels – documentary produced by Terry Spahr
https://8billionangels.org/Can Living a 1.5 Degree Lifestyle Make a Difference? - Episode 66 of the GrowthBusters podcast, with Lloyd Alter
https://www.growthbusters.org/can-1-5-degree-lifestyle-matter/Obsessive-Compulsive’s Guide to Cutting Your Carbon Footprint - Episode 67 of the GrowthBusters podcast, with Lloyd Alter
https://www.growthbusters.org/cutting-carbon-footprint/This Sustainable Life podcast with Josh Spodek
https://joshuaspodek.com/podcast7th Generation Initiative / Sustainability Project (Mike Nickerson)
http://www.sustainwellbeing.net/Life, Money & Illusion: Living on Earth as If We Want to Stay – by Mike Nickerson
http://www.sustainwellbeing.net/what_the_book_is_about.htmlMore Fun, Less Stuff- Episode 55 of the GrowthBusters podcast, with Mike Nickerson
https://www.growthbusters.org/more-fun-less-stuff/Al Bartlett’s Laws Relating to Sustainability
https://www.albartlett.org/articles/art_reflections_part_5.htmlWhere Lawns Are Outlawed (and Dug Up, and Carted Away)
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/03/climate/las-vegas-lawn-grass-ban.htmlAs Climate Fears Mount, Some in U.S. Are Deciding to Relocate
https://e360.yale.edu/features/as-climate-fears-mount-some-in-u.s.-are-deciding-to-relocateChronic Land Degradation: UN Offers Stark Warnings and Practical Remedies in Global Land Outlook 2
https://www.unccd.int/resources/global-land-outlook/overviewHumanity Entering ‘Spiral of Self-Destruction’, UN Warns
https://www.france24.com/en/environment/20220426-humanity-entering-spiral-of-self-destruction-warns-un-disaster-agency?ref=twLatest IPCC Report Skips Population Growth in Summary for Policymakers, but Highlights it in Full Report and Technical Summary
https://overpopulation-project.com/population-in-the-ipccs-new-mitigation-report/GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth – free on YouTube
https://youtu.be/_w0LiBsVFBoGive Us Feedback:
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Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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A reprise of Paul Ehrlich’s candid conversation with us on the 50th anniversary of Earth Day, in April of 2020. We discuss the COVID pandemic, overpopulation, The Population Bomb (including an amusing mistake on the cover), dinner with Johnny Carson, the deficits of our university system, the climate crisis, and human civilization’s prospects (“I'm very pessimistic about the future but very optimistic about what we could do”).
Dr. Paul Ehrlich is most famous for co-writing The Population Bomb (1968). He is Bing Professor of Population Studies, Emeritus at Stanford University, and founded the Center for Conservation Biology at Stanford.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:
GrowthBusters Campus Tour
https://www.growthbusters.org/campus-tour/EarthX
https://earthx.org/EarthxTV
https://video.earthxtv.com/The Population Bomb by Anne and Paul Ehrlich
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Population_BombNov/Dec 2019 Sierra Magazine
https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/2019-6-november-december
BOOKS MENTIONED (by Paul Ehrlich):Rattlesnake Under His Hat by Sam Hurst
https://www.earlbrockelsby.com/The Wisest One in the Room – by Thomas Gilovich and Lee Ross
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25205421-the-wisest-one-in-the-roomHuman Natures: Genes, Cultures, and the Human Prospect by Paul Ehrlich
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/159685.Human_NaturesEcoscience: Population, Resources, Environment by Paul R. Ehrlich, John P. Holdren and Anne H. Ehrlich
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6348326-ecoscienceGive Us Feedback:
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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society’s growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture’s obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.
Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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Chickens, Tomatoes and Cars: The Wonky Numbers Behind Your Carbon Footprint
We NEED to be obsessed with shrinking our footprint, and Lloyd Alter did the research, the spreadsheet, and the book to help us all do our part. Did you know you can cut your carbon footprint from food in half? In a continuation of last episode’s conversation, Lloyd Alter, author of Living the 1.5 Degree Lifestyle: Why Individual Climate Action Matters More than Ever, shares what matters most from what he learned while shrinking his annual carbon footprint to meet the carbon budget allowed to meet 1.5°C goals.
Don’t Miss: Stephanie makes a shocking confession about her 2019 lifestyle and carbon footprint. And Lloyd raised quite a stir with this tweet: “I was shocked when I e-biked past the gas station, the price is twice as high as when I last filled the car two years ago.”
Some of the Revelations:
Tomatoes have an unusually large carbon footprint. Eating food in season tastes better! He introduces us to the term “climatarian” - a person who chooses what to eat according to what is least harmful to the environment. We engage in “portion distortion” – we put too much on the plate and either eat too much or toss the excess The delivery of a take-out order emits twice the carbon of producing that food. Embodied energy or carbon, or upfront carbon emissions, are a big part of our consumption footprint We’d be well-served to focus on “sufficiency.” What is enough? What do you need?
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Living the 1.5 Degree Lifestyle – by Lloyd Alter
https://newsociety.com/books/l/living-the-1-5-degree-lifestyleTreeHugger – one of the world’s leading sustainability information websites
https://www.treehugger.com/Take the Jump - Less consuming but more creativity, care, comedy, camaraderie, contentment, craft, connection, celebration, culture and community.
https://takethejump.org/Lettuce is Stupid
http://lettuceisstupid.com/Pilot project and spreadsheet
https://1five.orgHot or Cool Institute
https://hotorcool.org/Global Footprint Network ecological footprint calculator
https://www.footprintcalculator.org/home/en
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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society’s growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture’s obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.
Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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Should we be sitting around eating burgers and driving pickup trucks, and just wait for the system change needed to live sustainably on this planet? We attempt here to put to rest the tired and misdirected debate about whether individual footprint-shrinking action is a distraction that slows needed systemic change, and whether it's worth doing.
Joining us in this conversation is Lloyd Alter, former managing editor of Treehugger, and author of a fairly new book, Living the 1.5 Degree Lifestyle.
MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:Living the 1.5 Degree Lifestyle – by Lloyd Alter
https://newsociety.com/books/l/living-the-1-5-degree-lifestyleTreeHugger – one of the world’s leading sustainability information websites
https://www.treehugger.com/Lifestyle Carbon Footprints and Changes in Lifestyles to Limit Global Warming To 1.5 °C
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11625-021-01018-6Simplicity Institute
https://simplicityinstitute.org/Elizabeth Warren on Major Industry Emissions - September 2019 Presidential Debate
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/09/04/elizabeth-warren-fossil-fuel-industry-cnn-climate-town-hall-vpx.cnnJust 100 Companies Responsible for 71% of Global Emissions, Study Says – UK Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-changeJevons Paradox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradoxThe JUMP Is a Movement Challenging Consumers to Live for Joy, Not Stuff – by Lloyd Alter
https://www.treehugger.com/take-the-jump-less-stuff-more-joy-5215018Take the Jump - Less consuming but more creativity, care, comedy, camaraderie, contentment, craft, connection, celebration, culture and community.
https://takethejump.org/Reducing Your Carbon Footprint Still Matters – Slate
home.https://slate.com/technology/2018/10/carbon-footprint-climate-change-personal-action-collective-action.htmlIPCC Issues ‘Bleakest Warning Yet’ on Impacts of Climate Breakdown – UK Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/feb/28/ipcc-issues-bleakest-warning-yet-impacts-climate-breakdownManaging Without Growth – by Peter Victor
https://www.pvictor.com/
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On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society’s growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). This podcast is part of the GrowthBusters project to raise awareness of overshoot and end our culture’s obsession with, and pursuit of, growth.
Dave Gardner directed the documentary GrowthBusters: Hooked on Growth, which Stanford Biologist Paul Ehrlich declared “could be the most important film ever made.” Co-host, and self-described "energy nerd," Stephanie Gardner has degrees in Environmental Studies and Environmental Law & Policy.
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