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The biggest trap in life? Thinking your current path is the only path.
In this episode we introduce you to the Odyssey Plan – a 20 minute personal exercise that encourages you to zoom out, ask yourself bigger questions to reveal 3 possible futures and forces you to confront what you really want.
For Ral – her plan reveals less work and move over Ellen Degeneres!
For Jac – linen and leather, Kenya and a few leopards
The Odyssey Plan shows you how many options you have and which ones are worth pursuing – get to it!
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Are your co-workers your mates? Do you love working with them? Have you stayed longer in a role that didn’t serve you because of your coworkers? Yep, guilty.
Have you been promoted and all of a sudden your great mate colleagues now report to you, and things feel different for them and for you? Have you left a role and promised a co-worker or direct report you will take them with you…?
This topic is one that not only applies to your work mates, it can also apply to people outside of work, to running a business and clients not coming with you as you grow or change.
This episode will make you think, and it will give you confidence and ideas on how to move forward and why sometimes it is really smart to leave others behind…
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Do you stay “small” because of fear? Hold yourself back from doing ‘the thing’? Not meet the person. Avoid grasping the opportunity for fear of what might happen (negative) or what people might think?
You’re living a life in fear and that is a life half lived.
In this episode Jac & Ral encourage you to try living a life of courage instead – don’t wait for permission, validation or reassurance, take 1 small step and start taking Ral’s 4 simple actions to make a change starting today. Jac shares a simple exercise for you to try – if that doesn’t put courage in your life, nothing will.
The question shouldn’t be what if I fail, the question should be what if I fly?
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How do you leave a job or a leader gracefully and graciously when it’s been good to you, but you want to end it not for any negative reasons but because you have had enough, or you want a change or you get offered a better opportunity?
Well, poor Dave got told it wasn’t him, it was Ral… but as for Jac, she got told it wasn’t her, it was him… but she did end up marrying him in the end!
There are some good ways to leave the job, the leader, the lover and do it positively and leave a professional impression – you must start by being very clear on your reason for leaving (be honest) and then follow with…
Listen in and take our advice, it will set you up awesmely!
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If you’re digging a hole in the wrong place, it doesn’t matter how deep you’ve dug… it’s still the wrong hole!
This episode is all about continuing to stay on a course of action despite it being more beneficial to quit. You might try to rationalise the situation by saying since the spent cost can't be recovered, you might as well stay the course and/or allocate additional resources to try to make things work… however is that the right decision for you??
Jac & Ral both share examples of embracing sunk cost fallacy – and how to know when to hold them, how to know when to fold them and how to know when to walk away! Sing it out loud Kenny!!
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Why stop at 1 goal when you can set more? This episode inspired by Maddy Phillips and the Boston marathon.
We are talking about s-t-r-e-t-c-h goals. Ral says chin ups are her stretch goal, Jac thinks making it to Friday and a glass of wine is not just her weekly goal but a priority!
It’s all about mindset. It applies to your personal and professional life. So set yourself an A goal, a B goal and a C goal.
Goal A is the ultimate! Flexibility is key – even if you don’t achieve the A goal, getting to your B or C goals are still a win.
Standby for the chin ups goal being achieved by Ral!
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Every single person has potential. Untapped. Ral reckons she’s already exceeded hers, Jac reckons she’s just warming up, so how doyou reach your potential?
There are a few things you can do and we cover all of them and how they have applied to us or others we know.
The trick is to be optimistic, open minded, to grow your self belief and to define what ‘failure’ really means to you… Because not giving something a go is failure in our eyes!
And for some shits & giggles listen to find out what a nun once told Ral about her potential…!
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What does processed cheese and saying sorry have in common? Both can be plastic… yep, not real!
Nothing worse than someone who apologises but doesn’t really believe they should or need or want to. We share a few doozies – some most recent. Don’t be them.
We also unpack how not to apologise, and if you need to apologise, how to do it with sincerity.
…and then there are those who just apologise too much! Why this isn’t a good idea when it comes to your personal brand.
We are so not sorry to bring you this latest episode of keeping it real
Sorry not sorry video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcGKxLJ4ZGI
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Hardest job in the world.
No one prepares you for parenthood, and as two mothers with four kids between us we share some of the horrors we put our kids through… award winning events that will either horrify you or you’ll find hilarious!
Foot surgery, nasal surgery, cracked heads, left behind in shopping centers, kinder surprise trauma and much more! Jac and Ral keep it real when it comes to the balls ups they have clocked up as Mothers. But everyone is still alive today, so we reckon we have done alright
Find out what we have learned as Mums – empathy, emotional intelligence, time management, prioritisation and more. All of which can be very advantageous as a leader.
Give yourself a break Mums… we see you, we hear you and we never judge you. You do you.
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Cindy Gallop likes to blow shit up. She’s one of the most sassy, outspoken and well known experts in the advertising industry.
A tireless supporter and fighter for women being promoted and paid as much as men in advertising, a brand and business innovator, consultant and speaker and more recently, founder & CEO of MakeLoveNotPorn - the world's first and only user-generated, human-curated social sex video sharing platform, socialising and normalising sex to make it easier for everyone to talk about, openly and honestly.
In this very special episode, Jac asks Cindy why she’s so passionate about a number of things, what really pisses her off, how she maintains the energy to continually fight for equality and diversity when it comes to equal pay, getting women promoted and funded.
Cindy shares why she’s so confident and what we all need to do to grow our confidence, the sooner the better. Cindy Gallop very much epitomises keeping it real and we reckon she’s a real keeper!
Make Love Not Porn investment link: https://wefunder.com/makelovenotporn
Cindy’s Linked In profile:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindygallop?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app
Cindy's Advice on Women & Pay: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSrcWxypY/
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In this very special episode Ral interviews Independent member of federal parliament, Dr Monique Ryan - someone who keeps it real every day.
Learn what the power of people banding together (but not always agreeing or aligned!) achieves. And when it comes to creating positive outcomes, find out Mon’s secret weapon and what Pressure not Power means.
There were no Teals more than 3 years ago and then there were six! They appeared. And Mon didn’t expect to find a group like this – great friends, who work hard together, who solve problems and also disagree, debate and challenge each other (you learn from each other she shares) but any debate is always done RESPECTFULLY (how refreshing, we have adults in the house!).
Enjoy this vulnerable, insightful, intelligent and very REAL conversation with one of Australia’s most impressive female leaders in parliament.
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Do you have more triggers than glimmers? Do you take note of when and why? In this episode we unpack these ‘new terms’ that have become a thing thanks to our growing interest in psychology and mental health combined with social media.
Jac and Ral talk about self awareness when it comes to triggers and glimmers and how you can use your growing awareness to leverage triggers and glimmers in your workplace – they can help your personal brand, improve your leadership andteam culture and most of all deepen your important relationships.
And get ready to learn what really triggers Ral….!
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In this episode Ral opens up about a recent health scare that forced her to hit pause and reflect deeply.
She shares the confronting experience of undergoing tests, facing uncertainty, and the critical reminder it gave her, and now us, about the importance of regular health checks. Whether it’s your breasts, skin, bowels, or beyond, this is your wake-up call to stop putting it off.
Jac brings a powerful perspective, reminding us the average person only gets about4,000 weeks on this earth. That number hits differently when you realise how many of those weeks we spend unhappy, unwell, or just going through the motions.
Together, Jac and Ral encourage you to not only prioritise your physical health, but your emotional well-being too. Book the holiday. Leave the toxic job. Walk away from the relationship that’s draining you.
This episode is a timely, honest reminder that while we can’t control everything, we do have more power than we think in shaping a life that feels good, inside and out.
Enjoy Keepers!
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Not all readers are leaders, but all leaders are readers.
And thanks to tech today, you can also listen to a book if you’re not a visual learner, including the 10 very favourite (so far) books we have loved and learned from over the years. Some books are oldies, others are very recent!
To find out what titles we recommend (we brought different recommendations) and why, listen in. And here’s where Jac & Ral align and here’s where they are different in their favourite choices:
Common Ground
Big-Picture Thinkers – We are both drawn to books about vision, purpose, and legacy.Passion for Leadership & Performance – We both admire leadership principles that build long-lasting impact.Creativity & Innovation – We both value creativity, but we approach it in different ways.Key Differences
Ral is more emotionally intuitive & bold → She loves books that challenge conventional wisdom, celebrate creativity and emphasise human connection.Jac is more analytical & strategic → She loves books that explore cognitive biases, motivation, and long-term leadership.Ral is about storytelling & experience → Her books focus on sticky ideas, culture, and moments that matter.Jac is about psychology & purpose → Her books explorehow people think, what drives them, and how to lead for the long haul.Our Recommendations
- Made to Stick
https://www.amazon.com.au/Made-Stick-ideas-others-unstuck/dp/009950569X
- Big Magic
https://www.amazon.com.au/Big-Magic-Creative-Living-Beyond/dp/1408866757
- Legacy
https://www.amazon.com.au/Legacy-James-Kerr/dp/147210353X
- The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck
https://www.amazon.com.au/Subtle-Art-Not-Giving-Counterintuitive/dp/1925483592
- Unreasonable Hospitality
https://www.amazon.com.au/Unreasonable-Hospitality-Remarkable-Giving-People/dp/1529146828
- The Infinite Game
https://www.amazon.com.au/Infinite-Game-Simon-Sinek/dp/0241385636
- Thinking Fast and Slow
https://www.amazon.com.au/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0141033576
- Shoe Dog
https://www.amazon.com.au/Shoe-Dog-Memoir-Creator-NIKE/dp/1471146723
- Drive
https://www.amazon.com.au/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1786891700
- The Creative Act
https://www.amazon.com.au/Creative-ACT-Way-Being/dp/0593652886
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There are some brands you never forget… when it comes to experience.
In this episode we explore the power of creative engagement when it comes to how brands can make their customer experiences unforgettable.
We discuss Unreasonable Hospitality, the magic of Eleven Madison Park, and how Mecca the cosmetics retailer sets the standard for customer connection.
It often comes down to giving more than expected... unless you’re asking Ral to complete a survey! Tune in for fresh ideas on standing out in a crowded market!
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Will A.I. take your job?
Unlikely, but someone who knows how to use A.I. will!
There are many benefits to exploring, learning, practising and using artificial intelligence, or LLMs – large language models. Two people who pride themselves on keeping it real (smart) are both getting right into artificial intelligence.
So who is Charlie??
We share what you should do to start (just start!), how we use it and all the different ways you can use it and keep using it. The trick is honing your prompts…
Efficiency, boosting productivity, expanding your creativity, growing your team are just some of the advantages we are finding using LLMs like ChatGPT, Claude and others.
Jac & Ral reckon ChatGPT is starting to challenge our favourite search engine Google… Ral gives a great analogy of the difference between Googe and ChatGPT – she also gets excited about how AI can help her cook… Jac would rather ask A.I. for the best new wines to try with Ral’s new recipes
Enjoy Keepers!
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Have you ever had a bit on the side? If not, we encourage you to
There are many benefits to having a side hustle – any work or project outside of your main job that allows you to earn an extra income, learn new skills, develop an idea, meet new people and teach you something.
Jac started a side hustle when she was living in Singapore and had a need… she continued her side hustle for years and it taught her more than any MBA could have. Ral set up her side hustle when she was in corporate, it served her well and is still going to this day – though became more than her side hustle.
Jac & Ral encourage everyone to have a side hustle – it might be the one employment thing you can control.
Listen in to get inspired on what a side hustle really is, how to start one, why it is good to have one and find out why ‘having no time’ is not a good excuse to starting one!
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We love a good podcast so we thought we would share our individual most favoured regular listens with our Keepers in this episode but we didn’t stop there… we also asked A.I. what our choices say about us…
Jac’s podcast choices reveal a sharp, business-savvy, and intellectually curious mindset with a passion for leadership, personal growth, and high performance. Here’s what her podcast picks tell us about her:
1. A Strategic & Commercial Thinker
2. A Growth-Oriented & High-Performance Leader
3. A Deep Thinker with Intellectual Curiosity
4. Passionate About Governance & Leadership
5. A No-BS, Practical Problem Solver
Overall, Jac is a forward-thinking, results-driven leader who thrives on insightful conversations, bold ideas, and continuous learning. She values practical wisdom, high performance, and unfiltered discussions that challenge conventional thinking.
Ral’s podcast choices reveal her to be intellectually curious, politically engaged, and drawn to sharp, insightful conversations with a touch of humour. Here’s what her podcast picks say about her:
1. Thoughtful & Reflective
2. Intellectually Engaged & Politically Curious
3. Values Smart, Witty Conversation
4. Australian-Focused but Global in Perspective
Overall, Ral is a sharp, engaged, and curious thinker who values insight, humour, and deep conversations about the world. She is drawn to strong personalities, intellectual debates, and content that informs, challenges, and entertains.
Jac's Recommendations:
Prof G: https://open.spotify.com/show/7syF2ry9j6nqYc656WHBA7
Alex Hormozi 'The Game' : https://open.spotify.com/show/6YNopzKDGDwf0auIpPTIID
15 Minute Boss: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5qcHSuuPHTeQfEsMcMgoEG
Take on Board: https://open.spotify.com/show/38AvsbDrdRJ5fwdL8PnSSb
Joe Rogan: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3pVNAc36azP2NVP2EHb4Zh
Diary of a CEO: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0N8pwL3JeHoc34TElV7idF
Diary of a CEO Book: https://www.amazon.com.au/Diary-CEO-Laws-Business-Marketing-ebook/dp/B09VRXYMW5
Lex Fridman: https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCL
Ral's Recommendations:
Pivot: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPR
Wiser than Me: https://open.spotify.com/show/3zaHNdVeLiqOSXwxdoWcij
The Rest is Politics US: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6r1a2M1ISB4JALwpf2W4Yo
Not Stupid: https://open.spotify.com/show/7F6ALfNtMAKi6zuZSPbWKe
Chat 10: https://open.spotify.com/show/4vX0jVjbnlzFeWWxugNIbT
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We think using the ol’ ageism chestnut when you don’t get a role could be a convenient story you tell yourself. Maybe even an excuse…!
Provocative? Yep. Accurate? Maybe.
Ageism is when we discriminate based on age – younger or older, everyone could experience ageism but when we deem it the reason we didn’t get the job, or the reason we weren’t promoted or the reason we were made redundant or sacked, we would like to challenge your thinking…
In this episode we ask you to answer this question:
“Are you relevant?”
Have you kept up your training, growth and skills development? It’s a jungle out there… things are changingrapidly so if you’re not keeping up then you’ll be pushed out and your age won’t have anything to do with it!
Nanna Phillips and Nanna Dolan reckon they’re ageless progressives… because age is an attitude and they both continue to learn, grow and put themselves out there when it comes to ensuring they remain relevant irrespective of the number on their birth certificate! !
Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fiji
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