Episodes
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On today’s episode of LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025, we speak to Jonathan Williams of Legora, an agentic AI platform designed to streamline legal work by automating low-level tasks. Known for his engaging personality and deep involvement in the legal tech space, Jonathan is passionate about innovation and the future of AI in law. At LegalTechTalk 2025, he shared insights on industry misconceptions about AI, the rapid growth of the event, and Legora’s expanding work with law firms, arbitral institutions, and universities. Despite his busy schedule, he emphasizes the importance of wellbeing and staying grounded in a fast-moving industry.
🔍 We Discussed the Following Questions:
❓ What is Legora, and how does it aim to transform legal work through AI?
❓ How has LegalTechTalk evolved from its previous edition in terms of size and impact?❓ What specific legal tasks is Legora targeting for automation or improvement?❓ Why do many legal professionals misunderstand the current and future scope of AI?❓ What value does LegalTechTalk offer to both established professionals and newcomers in legal tech?❓ How does Jonathan Williams describe the balance between fun and professionalism at the event?❓ What has been the most common feedback or pain point raised by attendees at Legora’s booth?❓ What is the Jevons Paradox, and how does it relate to the adoption of AI in the legal industry?❓ What upcoming developments or initiatives is Legora involved in, especially with law firms and universities?❓ What personal insight or ‘aha’ moment did Jonathan experience during LegalTechTalk 2025?
So why should you be listening in?
You can hear Rob and Jonathan discussing:
- Legora Being an Agentic AI Platform Aiming to Eliminate Low-Level Legal Tasks
- LegalTechTalk 2025 Doubling in Size and Created a Strong, Engaging Community
- Many Legal Professionals Still Misunderstanding the Scope and Future Potential of AI in Law
- Wellbeing and the Theme of “Revolution, Not Evolution”
- Legora Expanding with Big Law Firms, Arbitral Institutions, and University Partnerships
Connect with Jonathan here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/inlegalopswetrust/ -
On today’s episode of LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025, we speak to Matthew Mayes. He is the co-founder of A-dapt International and the driving force behind TestMyWitness.com, an innovative platform revolutionising witness preparation through emotionally intelligent, scalable, and cost-effective technology.
🔍 We Discussed the Following Questions:
❓ What is your background and experience?
❓ What assumptions do people still get wrong about legal tech?
❓ What’s one assumption about legal tech you think most people still get wrong?
❓ Are you pitching or presenting today—can you tell us more about that?
❓ Which of this year’s Legal Tech Talk themes speaks loudest to you and why?
❓ What’s the biggest surprise so far for you at Legal Tech Talk 2025?
❓ What do you hope will be gone or done better in law by 2030?
❓ What role do you see human-centered AI playing in the future of legal tech?
❓ What’s been your biggest “aha” moment or standout experience at the event?
❓ Where can people find out more about you and your work?
So why should you be listening in?
You can hear Rob and Matthew discussing:
- Solving Critical Problems in Witness Preparation
- Driving Easier, More Inclusive Access to Justice
- Avoiding Misconceptions Regarding Legal Tech
- Human-Centred AI as the Future
- Positive Reception and a Vision for 2030
Connect with Matthew here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/matthewmayes -
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On our second episode of LegalTechTalk Uncovered 2025, we speak to Holly Cope. She is the ambitiously driven ex-lawyer and entrepreneur who hosts the More Than a Lawyer podcast, where she delves into key conversations with top lawyers from around the world.
🔍 We Discussed the Following Questions:
❓ What is the biggest problem you're trying to solve within the legal industry?
❓ What assumptions do people still get wrong about legal tech?
❓ Can lawyers freely adopt any legal tech tool they like?
❓ What kind of sessions or contributions are you making at Legal Tech Talk 2025?
❓ What has been the biggest surprise about Legal Tech Talk 2025?
❓ What do you hope will be fixed in the legal industry by 2030?
❓ How are legal professionals reacting to AI in real-time?
❓ Has AI progressed faster than expected in the legal industry?
❓ How can events like Legal Tech Talk help drive change in the legal sector?
❓ Where can listeners learn more and continue the conversation beyond the podcast?
So why should you be listening in?
You can hear Rob and Holly discussing:
- Lack of Awareness Being a Core Legal Industry Challenge
- Avoiding Harmful Assumptions of Legal Tech
- The Widespread Impact of LegalTechTalk
- Mindset Shift Being Crucial for Legal Transformation
- Conversations around AI Sparking “A-ha Moments”
Connect with Holly here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/holly-cope-digitalnomad -
Fraud, corruption, money laundering, how do the world’s top lawyers tackle financial crime at the highest level?
This week, I’m joined by David Savage, Partner at HFW and a leading expert in white collar crime and sanctions. David reveals what really happens in high-stakes investigations, the red flags companies ignore and how AI is reshaping compliance and regulation. Plus he shares his journey balancing life as a law firm partner and an LGBTQ+ parent.
If you want insider information on financial crime, compliance and the future of regulation, this episode is unmissable. Go give it a listen now!
So why should you be listening in?
You can hear Rob and David discussing:
- David’s Journey and How a Lot of it Was Self-Taught
- The Complexity of Sanctions
- Why We Need Technology and Compliance
- Maintaining Authenticity in Your Professional Life
- Diverse Work Experience and Career Advice
Connect with David here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/davidjohnsavage -
🚨 BREAKING NEWS: CEO of LegalTechTalk Shares What You Can’t Miss at #LTT25 🚨
🎤 This morning, I had the chance to walk and talk with Bradley Collins — Co-Founder & CEO of LegalTechTalk — in a special behind-the-scenes interview filmed just as the doors opened for #LTT25.
Bradley is the force behind one of the most ambitious and future-focused legal events in the world — and we got him on the move before his opening keynote.
What shouldn’t you miss at LegalTechTalk 2025?
👉 Here’s what the founder says…
🔍 We asked:
❓ How are you really feeling this morning?
❓ What’s the big vision behind this year’s event?
❓ Which theme is the heartbeat of LegalTechTalk 2025?
❓ What’s been the hardest thing to pull off?
❓ If you’ve only got half a day here — what’s unmissable?
❓ How do you build a community, not just a conference?
❓ What vibe are you setting in your opening speech?
❓ Who do you hope leaves here changed?
❓ What does success look like when it’s all over?
❓ And… what’s next when the doors finally close?
So why should you be listening in?
You can hear Rob and Bradley discussing:
- How LegalTechTalk Has Scaled Up for 2025 and Beyond
- The Vision: Tech for Good and Access to Justice
- Building Up Community Rather Than Competition
- Stages, Startups and Spectacular Entertainment
- Extra Touches: Networking and Wellbeing
Connect with Bradley here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/bradleycentaurcollins -
On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I am delighted to be joined by Rachael Heenan. Rachael is a Senior Partner at Capsticks Solicitors LLP working with clients who seek to make a difference.
Ranked as an Eminent Practitioner in Employment and Healthcare and described as a ‘phenomenal, superstar lawyer’ and ‘an inspirational role model’, Rachael is also a CEDR-accredited mediator specialising in workforce, partnership and governance issues along with being a Qualified Executive Leadership Coach.
If that’s not enough, Rachael has also been listed in the Lawyer Hot 100 for Firm Management.
So why should you be listening in?
You can hear Rob and Rachael discussing:
- Rachael’s Inspiring Career Journey and Experience
- A Mediator’s Dynamic Leadership Philosophy
- What Coaching, Mediation and a CEDR Accreditation Mean
- The Importance of Diversity and Inclusion
- Why We Need to Embrace Technology and Change
Connect with Rachael here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/rachael-heenan-7b29b07
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If AI can draft your contracts, flag your redlines, and build your bundles…Who’s responsible when it gets it wrong?In our latest Legally Speaking Podcast™ LinkedIn Live, proudly sponsored by Clio, I sat down with Austin Brittenham, lawyer, founder, and CEO of 2nd Chair — the minds behind David AI, the “AI with a conscience” reshaping how small firms, solo lawyers, and students get legal work done.🎙 Topic: AI With a Conscience — Can Legal Tech Stay Ethical as It Scales?This wasn’t another AI hype session. It was a deep dive into:♦️ What happens when AI gets the law wrong — and how David AI avoids hallucination with built-in verification♦️ Why they designed for solo attorneys first — not BigLaw♦️ How firms can self-regulate today — without waiting for the SRA to catch up♦️ The future of legal education and whether AI should be a core subject♦️ Mental health, burnout, and building AI that supports people, not just processes💡 “Verification over velocity.” That was Austin’s core message — and it’s one every legal professional needs to hear.📌 Connect with Austin Brittenham: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abrittenham
🔗 Explore David AI: www.2ndchair.ai
🗓 Book a call: calendly.com/austin-2ndchair
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🎥 “I know I should do video… but I don’t have the time, tech, or confidence.”
Sound familiar?
If you’re a lawyer still avoiding the camera, this Legally Speaking Podcast ™️ sponsored by Clio LinkedIn Live will change everything.
I was joined by Kerry Barrett, Emmy-winning former NBC News anchor, media trainer, and founder of the Video Authority Blueprint, who turns video-shy lawyers into video-confident lawyers.
💡 What we covered:
⚖️ The #1 mistake lawyers make on camera (and how to fix it)
📹 What kinds of video content actually convert for clients
🎯 How to build authority even if you’re “not a natural on camera”
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On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Philip Young.
Philip is the Co-Founder of Garfield AI, the first SRA-regulated AI legal services firm. He was a City Lawyer for 25 years and previously a Partner at a specialist law firm. Philip has experience in a range of commercial cases.
Upon leaving the City, Philip focused his attention on large language models - and passionate about access to justice, leading him to create Garfield AI.
So why should you be listening in?
You can hear Rob and Philip discussing:
- Garfield AI Being the First SRA-Regulated AI Legal Services Firm
- How Philip Leveraged ChatGPT-4 Technology to Create Garfield AI
- Using a Hybrid Approach of Deterministic, Expert and Probabilistic AI Systems
- What Garfield AI aims to Improve by Making Legal Processes More Accessible and Affordable
- The Future of AI in Legal Services and the Removal of Repetitive, Administrative Tasks
Connect with Philip here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/philip-young-091b665 -
We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.
This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.
2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.
We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.
Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…
✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.
Get ready for:
💥 Strategy
💥 Scaling
💥 Sunshine
💥 Success
In our final episode of Legally On The Move: Strategy, Scaling, Sunshine and Success from Ibiza, we have an open discussion with our hosts Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin. We have come full circle from the first episode to dive into another poolside interview as Kate and Kirsty share details on the origins of the Lawyers Retreat and the exciting plans they have for the future. Stay tuned for more, thank you for being part of our amazing trip to Ibiza!
You can hear Rob, Kate and Kirsty talking about:
- The Origin and Inspiration behind The Lawyers Retreat
- How Everything Came Together After a Name Was Decided
- The Importance of Community and Collaboration
- An Informal Setting Provoking Deeper Insights
- Looking Ahead to 2026 and What to Expect
Connect with Kate and Kirsty here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-burt-hiverisk-co-uk/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirsty-pappin-legal-practice-manager/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-lawyers-retreat/
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We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.
This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures. 2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.
We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.
Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…
✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.
Get ready for:
💥 Strategy
💥 Scaling
💥 Sunshine
💥 Success
In this episode, we speak with Michael Hanney, the Founder & CEO of ReviewSolicitors, the UK's largest review site that is used exclusively for the legal profession. With the tools that Michael and ReviewSolicitors provide, clients are able to read trusted feedback from others and seamlessly schedule appointments that lead to growth and opportunity.
You can hear Rob and Michael talking about:
- Michael’s Journey in Establishing ReviewSolicitors
- Streamlining Workloads for Legal Clients and Professionals
- The Importance of Networking Through Events Such as the Lawyers Retreat
- Managing Reviews and Online Public Reception
- Making the Most of Various Online Review Platforms
Connect with Michael here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mhanney/
reviewsolicitors.co.uk/
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On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I’m delighted to be joined by Christopher Bogart and David Perla.
Chris is the CEO, Director and Co-Founder of Burford Capital. Under his leadership, Burford Capital has become the leading global provider of legal finance with a group-wide portfolio of nearly 7.4 billion and a force in the global market.
David is Vice Chair at Burford Capital and oversees marketing, public policy, industry affairs and public relations. An entrepreneur and legal industry leader, David was named a Top 50 Innovator of the Last 50 Years by The American Lawyer.
So why should you be listening in?
You can hear Rob, Chris and David discussing:
- Leadership at the Forefront of Legal Finance
- Diverse Career Journeys Providing Experience as Fuel
- Dynamic, Strategic Roles on a Day-to-Day Basis
- A Passion for Innovation and Industry Leadership
- Key Skills Transferred to Client Success
Connect with Chris here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-bogart-b3114411
Connect with David here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidperla
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We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.
This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.
2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.
We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.
Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…
✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.
Get ready for:
💥 Strategy
💥 Scaling
💥 Sunshine
💥 Success
In this episode, we have an engaging conversation in a yoga studio with Nadine Stanton, the Chief Executive of Professional Training. Join us as we delve into the skills needed to attain success and advancement in your career.
You can hear Rob and Nadine talking about:
- Essential Skills, Not Soft Skills
- Three Core Client-Centric Skills – Win, Wow, Retain
- Managing Difficult Conversations with Empathy
- Value of Strategic Retreats
- Differentiation Through EQ, Not Just IQ
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We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.
This collaboration is part of our bigger mission: Inspiring legal minds.
Transforming legal futures.
2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.
Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…
✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.
Get ready for:
💥 Strategy
💥 Scaling
💥 Sunshine
💥 Success
In today’s episode, we go on a special outing with our very first mic and hike with Justine Westwell, the Managing Director of HiveRisk Limited. Join us on our exciting trek to find out more about the inner workings of HiveRisk, while taking in beautiful sights from Ibiza.
You can hear Rob and Justine talking about:
- The Lawyers Retreat Bringing Innovation to Legal Leadership
- Interactive, Practical Learning Over Traditional CPD
- How Environment Sparks Creativity and Connection
- Strategic Coaching as a Special Highlight in Legal
- Building a Strong Community and Future Plans for the Lawyer’s Retreat
Connect with Justine here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/justine-westwell
https://hiverisk.com/
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On today’s Legally Speaking Podcast, I am delighted to welcome back to the show Curt Sigfstead. Curt is the Chief Financial Officer at Clio.
Curt has a wealth of experience in financial planning, accounting and investment banking.
His expertise in financial leadership and understanding of SaaS and fintech is a valuable asset to Clio.
So why should you be listening in? You can hear Rob and Curt discussing:
- Clio's Customer-Centric and Strategic Growth Approach
- Curt's Deep Financial Background and Transition to Operator Role
- Evolving Role of a CFO at a High-Growth SaaS Company
- Clio’s Strategic Vision and Scalable Global Expansion
- Significance and Impact of Clio’s Series F Funding
Connect with Curt here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/curtsigfstead
Our Sponsor, Clio - https://www.clio.com/uk/
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We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:
Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.
2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.
Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…
✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.
Get ready for:
💥 Strategy
💥 Scaling
💥 Sunshine
💥 Success
In today’s episode, we talk to Tom Blandford, Chief Financial Officer for law firms on a fractional basis with over two decades of experience in the field. He is also the Founder and Owner of Sursum Advisory Ltd.
You can hear Rob and Tom talking about:
- Law Firms Need Actionable Metrics, Not Just Financial Statements
- A Powerful Example from Southwest Airlines: Find Your Key Number
- Gross Profit Percentage Is a Strong Starting Point
- Understanding and Tracking Lockup and WIP
- The Best Finance Directors Are Great StorytellersConnect with Tom here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-blandford-lawfirmcfo/
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We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.
This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:
Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.
2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.
We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…
✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.
Get ready for:
💥 Strategy
💥 Scaling
💥 Sunshine
💥 Success
In today’s episode, we talk to Jodie Hill, Managing Partner of Thrive Law, a firm that strongly emphasises the key importance of equality, diversity and inclusion in the legal industry. At Thrive Law, Jodie’s team offer’s the best support on tackling employment law, mental health and wellbeing challenges.
You can hear Rob and Jodie talking about:
- How Burnout in Law Requires Systematic Change
- Small Firms Taking Charge in Legal Culture
- Inclusive Onboarding: “License to Thrive”
- Starting by Listening, Not Aiming for Perfection
- Intentional Culture Building Through Hybrid Teams
Connect with Jodie here:
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/jodie-hill-lawyer
https://www.thrivelaw.co.uk/
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Is it time to rethink the ways law firms operate?
This week, I’m joined by Mel Kang, the Founder & CEO of Mezzle. This amazing company is one of the fastest growing fee-sharing law firms in the UK. Mel shares why the fee-share model is transforming legal careers, the rise of remote-first law firms and how AI is shaping the future of legal work.
If you’re a lawyer thinking of breaking free from tradition, this episode is a must-listen, go give it a listen now!
So why should you be listening in?
You can hear Rob and Mel discussing:
- AI in Legal Practice Enhances, Not Replaces, Human Lawyers
- The Fee-Share Model Offers Flexibility and Empowerment
- Building Mezzle with Core Cultural Values (PRCB)
- Remote-First and Tech-Enabled Firms Are Thriving
- How Vulnerability and Setbacks Can Lead to Entrepreneurial Success
Connect with Mel here - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/mel-kang -
We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.
2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.
Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…
✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.
Get ready for:
💥 Strategy
💥 Scaling
💥 Sunshine
💥 Success
In our second episode, we talk to Whitney Williams, the Founder of PR By Whitney. She shares her insights for PR done right and how it affects your everyday practice. Stay tuned for Whitney’s specialist tips and advice!
You can hear Rob and Whitney talking about:
- The Importance of PR for Modern Law Firms
- Authenticity and Vulnerability in Legal PR
- Strategic Values of the Lawyer’s Retreat
- Expanding Your Practice Beyond LinkedIn
- The Role of Community and Collaboration
Connect with Whitney here:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/whitneywilliamspr
https://www.linkedin.com/company/prbywhitney/
https://prbywhitney.co.uk/
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We’re proud to be the official media partner for the first-ever edition of The Lawyers Retreat, co-founded by Kate Burt and Kirsty Pappin, which took place 13–16 May 2025 in Cala Carbo, Ibiza.
This collaboration is part of our bigger mission:Inspiring legal minds. Transforming legal futures.2025 is our 10x year—no playing safe, no repeating the same formula, and absolutely no following the crowd.
We’re investing in time, energy, and creativity to take the podcast global and partner with the most exciting initiatives shaping the future of law.
Following the success of our Legally On The Move: Careers, Tech & Insights from Dubai miniseries, we’re not slowing down…
✈️ Our Destination: Ibiza.
Get ready for:
💥 Strategy
💥 Scaling
💥 Sunshine
💥 Success
In our very first episode, we share our time with very special guest panel in a poolside conversation at the Lawyer’s Retreat. These guest panelists are Maya Raichoora, Imran Ali, Rakeebah Rahim, Sarah Birdsey and Peter Meadows.
You can hear Rob and the panel talking about:
- Mental Fitness as a Leadership Skill
- Performing Under Pressure- Scaling Without Losing Culture
- Client Experience with Empathy
- Strategic Clarity & Longevity in Law
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