Episodes
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Special guest Chris Kennedy, Pastor and Author
Chris’s book, Grace Under Pressure - https://amzn.to/3FBrdU2 (associate link)
Proactive v reactive approach
Proactive = investing in taking care of ourselves, our emotions, our whole selves to be able to live in the moment more authentically as ourselves and in what we value/believe
Reactive = awareness of emotion when it comes up
Tip 1 - Attend to and nurture
The environment
Relationships
Internal needs
Growth mindset – realist outlook + everything is redeemable
Tip 2 – Hold the tension of love with your frustration or anger
Tip 3 – Remember “more than they deserve”
Tip 4 – Non-judgment – grace and truth with the understanding that God is judge, not me
Tip 5 – Notice other people
Tip 6 – values and faith as driver, emotion as information to process
Shame
Tip 7 – careful of pouring yourself out to the last drop, we are human
The impact of shame and guilt on our internal processing of anger
“Holding It Lightly” from dialectical behavior therapy
The purpose of frustration and anger
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How do I find more happiness?
Happiness is a momentary emotion, as all emotions are, time oriented, even as a mood
Tip 1 - Look for happy moments, not a vague ongoing experience
Defining – emotion related to joy, gladness, satisfaction, or wellbeing
Related to confidence or satisfaction with a moment, a person, a situation
Tip 2 – avoid all or nothing thinking
Allow and acknowledge several emotions in your system at one time
Value all the emotions
Tip 3 – We’re ok v. Yay!
Positive psych and researching the experience of happiness
Hedonia and eudaimonia – pleasure v meaning
Markers of happiness = relationships, purpose, meaning/gratitude/mindfulness, physical health
Tip 4 – Don’t force it
Tip 5 – Know your values to find your eudaimonia happiness
Purpose and pleasure, skill and fulfillment
DBT values word list available to subscribers at heidigoehmann.com in December
Research:
https://positivepsychology.com/predictors-of-happiness/
Waterman, A. S. (2013). Eudaimonia: Contrasting two conceptions of happiness: Hedonia and eudaimonia. In J. J. Froh & A. C. Parks (Eds.), Activities for teaching positive psychology: A guide for instructors (pp. 29–34). American Psychological Association. https://doi.org/10.1037/14042-005
Huta, V., Waterman, A.S. Eudaimonia and Its Distinction from Hedonia: Developing a Classification and Terminology for Understanding Conceptual and Operational Definitions. J Happiness Stud 15, 1425–1456 (2014). https://doi.org/10.1007/s10902-013-9485-0
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Missing episodes?
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How do I tell the difference between my anxiety and my child’s?
Attachment relationships are more connected for regulation
The value of presence
The detriment of sponging emotion
Tip #1 – adults can bring the emotions to consciousness for kids
Notice and name the emotion in the room
Also helps us differentiate between my emotion and someone else
Tip #2 – go out into nature/Creation to release some emotion
Link to forest therapy info: https://www.natureandforesttherapy.earth/
Tip #3 – know your own “stuff” (triggers, concerns, traumas)
Tip #4 – do not assume an emotion, ask about an emotion
Tip #5 – Be aware of triggers with no shame
Practice accountability with kindness
“I am uncomfortable. I want to hear what you have to say. I want to know what’s going on with you. The way it’s coming out is challenging for me.”
Tip #6 – hold the duality of parental responsibility with deep parental love and connection
Common questions: will they be ok? Will I mess them up? What am I missing?
Give yourself space to learn and grow
Try to help kids be unburdened by adult problems
Tip # 7 – Maintain your connection with God
Pouring out your emotions with God
Resting with God
Rhythms of prayer as emotionally regulating
Hear God speaking to your emotions as a Gospel-oriented, invitation-to-relationship God
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How do I help my loved one when they are sad?
Differences in sadness and sorrow definition
relationship to distress and emotion regulation
Elevated, heavy feelings – sadness, guilt, remorse/regret, powerlessness
- Time oriented, long suffering, pain taking time
- Death, change, trauma, heartbreak, injustice, loss, disappointment, bad luck, trouble
Consider the moments when someone becomes aware of something challenging
No fixing
acknowledgement goes a long way
let these emotions be a process
let people’s emotions, including our own be complicated and layered
let it be seen by God with someone
invite that person into regular life things
2 Corinthians 1:3-4, God of all comforts, God of all, but especially of comfort
Psalm 18:6-8, God’s anger at what makes us sad or hurt
Resources:
https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/sorrow-an-acknowledgment
https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/honoring-our-sorrow-sadness-amp-tears-a-scripture-list-for-lent
https://www.kfuo.org/2020/01/20/coffee-hour-012020-no-shame-in-sadness/
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Listener question: How do I have a conversation with someone I disagree with when I feel passionately about something?
Annoyed, accosted, attacked, or acknowledgment – honoring people’s passions while setting our own boundaries
Tip 1 – root around your belief systems and consider how it impacts people
Tip 2 – use words to state our emotions as well as our thoughts
Define Zeal
- great energy or enthusiasm for a cause of goal (google)
- eagerness and ardent interest in something (webster)
- fervor, determination, combined with kindness equalling great devotion (urban dictionary)
- related to passion that is hard to govern
Tip 3 - What is the love within this? What is the fear within this?
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Tip 4 – reserve zeal for injustice to give power to the marginalized
Tip 5 – hate doesn’t help
- Ted Lasso – Be curious, not judgmental
Tip 6 – You can have boundaries
Opt out of conversations – place for avoidance and distraction, change of focus
Opt of relationships – what relationships in our life hold zeal in health and which are overwhelming
Boundaries with your own emotions
Resources:
Atlas of the Heart - https://amzn.to/46uBrRD
Subsribe to heidigoehmann.com for more.
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Listener question: How do I have both empathy and boundaries?
Article on empathy and boundaries at heidigoehmann.com - https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/the-savior-complex-empathy-without-boundaries
The difference between “hey, hold my emotions” and “withness”
Cognitive empathy:
Do they need us to see their perspective? Listen and ask questions about what they are thinking and how they see the world and their current experience.
Emotional empathy:
Do they need us to see their feelings? Listen and ask questions that help them name their emotions and give a space to honor them without judgment.
Boundary #1 – self-differentiation
Boundary #2 – no drama making, honor the degrees of separation
Boundary #3 - know your lens: perspective, bias, and assumptions
Boundary #4 – empathy doesn’t fix people
Boundary #5 – know your bandwidth
Boundary #6 – be yourself in your kind and compassionate clothing
Boundary #7 – recognize all of our capacity for suffering
Mental Health Tool - Gut check practice
Series on empathy at heidigoehmann.com -
https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/igniting-empathy-inside-of-me
https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/how-do-we-talk-with-empathy
https://heidigoehmann.com/articles/bringing-empathy-to-social-media
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How do I get more pleasure in my life and relationships?
Getting past the word pleasure - Culture and church cringy word, kind of awkward, vaguely sexual
Pleasure definition = enjoyment, satisfaction
1 - Look for pleasure to be relationship focused
2 - ask deeper questions about pleasure
3 - pleasure in balance with other emotions
4 - noticing skills
3 stages of pleasure:
Wanting – expectation/anticipation, pursuit/drive
Liking – sensation experience of pleasure, hedonistic hotspots in the brain
Learning – brain updating information, making future predictions; brain begins linking neurotransmitters that were harder to link before
Resources:
Altogether Beautiful video on expanding our understanding of pleasure
45 sec Preview: https://youtu.be/902FvFLwbA0?si=P8irRsjz0AH2ZQXj
https://vimeo.com/ondemand/altogetherbeautiful/260826340
https://www.apa.org/science/about/psa/2004/11/berridge
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/between-cultures/202107/the-new-neuroscience-pleasure
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Welcome back! The Life in Relationship Podcast answers one relationship question in each episode. We are looking forward to sharing Season 6 with you.
This season we are answering relationship questions all about Emotions to celebrate Heidi's book release of Emotions & the Gospel: Created for Connection. Emotions covered include: pleasure, anxiety, happiness, sadness & sorrow, frustration, zeal, and empathy.
Join us for episodes dropping in September. Submit your relationship questions at [email protected]. See you soon!
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Topic: Topic: How do you break up well?How do I know it’s healthy to start dating again after a divorce or breakup? The weightiness of breakups Reminding us of our need as humans for intimacy There are ways to do break ups “better”, but no way to do it “easy”
Keep it classy, kind, and clear
Break ups are in a moment, but the work of a break up is long term face to face universally preferred in the research What do you need and what needs healing? Find your support people Consider the impact on relationships beyond yourselfAllow for emotions
Give opportunity to process for yourself and your break up partner let complex emotions be there, just listen and then move forward Own what needs to be owned, don’t own what isn’t yours Dave’s wisdom = “It’s not you, it’s us.” space before friendship Happier music video: https://youtu.be/m7Bc3pLyij0Give yourself time and space for the grief
Set needed boundaries Homeostasis, getting to normalcy and comfort Pay attention to your internal dialogue and engage in healthy and aware self-talk A good time to engage in your spiritual life for foundation safety/comfort Space in communication disenfranchised grief and awareness of the stages of grief markers for “moving on”Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0338013/
Necessary Endings: https://amzn.to/3PD8Q4Q
Short answer: Keep it classy and give yourself time.
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How do partners take care of each other when they have a baby?
1 – Learn together, about baby and each other
What are your unique challenges?
Gender role complications
Awareness of shifts and changes with each baby
Embrace flexible curiosity
Make space and room for letting the baggage come out
2 – hold the good and bad together for and with another
Acknowledge the impossibility of the unpredictable nature of parenting
Some common anxieties:
Exhaustion Anxiety about infant or just life Changes in other relationships (boundaries with others) What support is available Physical touch and sensory overload Uncertainty of needs – other and within self Communicating about something so new Losing who I am outside of parenting3 – Notice where your partner needs and respond to each other with grace
Hormone changes and adjustment for both partners sleep deprivation messes with you validate and offer small touches to ground partner notice mess and mindfully notice joy Caring for each other outside of motherhood and fatherhood Caring for each other by splitting dutieshousehold chores episode – https://ilovemyshepherd.libsyn.com/household-chores
4– help one another remember yourselves outside of parenting
remember it’s a season go out and make nice moments happen when you stay in get to know baby and let baby get to know you - acclimate to baby, but also let baby acclimate to youResources:
Gottman Bringing Up Baby course - https://www.gottman.com/blog/bringing-baby-home-the-research/
And Baby Makes Three - https://amzn.to/3B79iBj (affiliate link)
Short answer: Plan for the unplannable and watch yourself grow.
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Topic: Where do I turn if I’m wrestling with my faith?
Intro: special guest Tanner Olson, Written to Speak, the poetry master
Wrestling can be scary, but healthy Can feel like a journey, a battle, a dessert, normalcy, mediocrity Common Questions: Is God still who He says He is? Is God still close to me? Validating your questions and feelings goes a long way in making wrestling feel safer Keep talking to God – step toward relationship and revelation, getting to know God rather than always answering the whys Wrestling can bring growth and depth of faith Find people you can talk to about the questions and wrestlings Making peace with wrestling as part of the faith processResearch studies reveal wrestling as a widely experienced phenomenon:
Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2839364/
Barna - https://www.barna.com/research/two-thirds-christians-face-doubt/
Study of Islam - https://yaqeeninstitute.org/read/paper/what-causes-muslims-to-doubt-islam-a-quantitative-analysis (Yaqeen Instititute for Islamic Research)
Predominate themes in wrestling:moral and social concerns, philosophical and scientific concerns, personal trauma
There is nothing wrong with you and sometimes it’s hard to see we are loved, forgiven, free, etc. Everyone’s relationship with God looks different We can rest in what we do know – “I know how this story ends” Faith looks different in different seasons of life Value of silence and stillness (Walk a Little Slower: pg. 104) Wrestling in the daily walk (Walk a Little Slower: pg. 52) Sometimes we think, sometimes we are invited to just be, sometimes we wait What to look for in wrestling companions Tanner wisdom: “Let the cheesy things still be true.”Resources: writtentospeak.com
Tanner’s books -
Walk a Little Slower - https://amzn.to/3IPETu7
As You Go - https://amzn.to/3IMa49A
I’m All Over the Place - https://amzn.to/3KYc0h1
Short Answer: Let yourself be curious and let the cheesy things be true.
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Topic: How do I talk to someone I love who is struggling with their mental health?
Intro: Changing stigma towards mental health
Step 1 - changing our beliefs
Step 2 - changing our actions related to beliefs
2019 APA survey:
https://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2019/05/mental-health-survey
What is my relationship with this person? (4:30) Relationship = vulnerability + boundaries Where are they at? Consider the person’s willingness to have the conversation Can they see the concerns or are they mostly unaware? Use the phrase – “I’ve noticed” or “Have you noticed…” Start with culturally normative symptoms or what might be easiest from them to hear Shift our own understanding about mental health as part of everyone’s everyday life Get some info for yourself Nami - https://nami.org/Support-Education and Mental Health First Aid and Fresh Hope groups recognize our own anxieties about mental health Mental Health First Aid: https://www.mentalhealthfirstaid.org/take-a-course/find-a-course/ Determining a crisis v. non-crisis situationQPR training for suicide prevention:
https://qprinstitute.com/individual-training
Concerns about suicide: https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ Consider your language and your relationship with your own mental health (18:00) Do not make assumptions Ask lots of questions Use a tone of respect People are more responsive when we are willing to deal with our own stuff Be authentic in our own struggles The struggle isn’t usually the same intensity forever Have some resources ready and check back in (23:30) Hotline resources - https://www.rainn.org/https://www.crisistextline.org/text-us/
https://www.thehotline.org/ for family and relationship violence
211 – basic resources local to you
look up some local therapiststherapist search on Heidi’s website: https://heidigoehmann.com/connect
Combat veteran resources and info around traumaNormalizing combat trauma - https://www.ptsd.va.gov/understand/common/common_veterans.asp
Find an EMDR therapist - https://www.emdria.org/find-an-emdr-therapist/
Get your own therapy if they are resistant (or if they aren’t)
books –Maybe You Should Talk to Someone - https://amzn.to/3EXYkhV
Maybe You Should Talk to Someone Workbook - https://amzn.to/3HPMpEL
Soul of Shame - https://amzn.to/3pViWTK
Daring Greatly - https://amzn.to/3zwOpPw
Fresh Hope Workbook - https://amzn.to/3faK0YV
Fresh Hope website - https://freshhope.us/
Loving Someone Series –
PTSD - https://amzn.to/34oRh5s
Bipolar - https://amzn.to/3zsYEnK
ADHD - https://amzn.to/3mYkmuY
Don’t forget boundaries for yourself with compassionMental health page at heidigoehmann.com - https://heidigoehmann.com/mental-health-1
Relationship page at heidigoehmann.com - https://heidigoehmann.com/relationships
Short Answer: There is no perfect way to have the conversation - start somewhere, with a resource and a single awkward conversation.
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Topic: How does a family adjust to someone becoming an adult?
Developmental realities, independence and angst
The reality of Young Adulthood – How do I access independence?
A Story: getting your first cold and/or changing your major in college
Tip 1 – Celebrate small things of young adulthood
baby steps reminds us we are capable telling each other you are capable = part of family lifeTip 2 – be mindful of the stages of parenting
parenting changes over time and with developmental levels of kids
article from Berkley calls the last state a “guide” https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/three_ways_to_change_your_parenting_in_the_teenage_years making decisions for small children, to making decisions but offering choices, to making decisions with your child, supporting decisions alongside your childTip 3 – be interested in one another as people
find some new rituals and traditions as well as new ways to connect spiritually 4 areas to grow as family members grow – emotions, routines, freedom, and conversations (licensed family therapist online)Article: https://imperfectfamilies.com/grow-up-with-your-kids/
Gottman “Creating Shared Meaning” and “Rituals of Connection”https://www.gottman.com/blog/create-shared-meaning-rituals-for-the-family/
Dave’s bonus tip for parents of YAs – “take opportunities to be chill”
Heidi’s bonus tip – “believing in eternity means I don’t have to be worked up about this moment”
Tip 4 – transition takes effort and energy and is worth effort and energy
relationship is made of vulnerability and boundariesFamily members of YAs –
consider what you want and what’s realistic
respect their voice and freedom
check ins with low expectations
YAs seek help, communicate needs
set boundaries, lead the way in defining your boundaries
love your family as people not what they do for you
Short answer: relationships need to transition as life transitions
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Question: How do we split up “the chores” of a household?
For marriage, roommates, families, etc.Dave & Heidi housekeeping love story
Gottman research, wives find spouse doing housework eroticLink: https://www.gottman.com/blog/4-typical-solvable-problems-relationships/
do what works, not what is expected Identifying expectations from other places – culture, family of origin, assumptions equality doesn’t mean 50/50, it’s seeing each other as equals there is no perfection in chore life: dailyness of life together in a household and the value of working on the daily things together even when they aren’t fun name your own expectations and desires: what needs to be done? How often? On certain days? etc. avoid extreme chore mentality consider the mental energy of appts and schedules and bills, etc, outdoor/indoor “I need you to participate more fully in (fill in the blank)” building your family culture: we all live here, we all have jobs to get the stuff of life done talk about it, write it down, list it all out (15:00) TED method: https://ideas.ted.com/how-to-split-the-chores-with-your-partner-minus-the-drama-and-fighting/ note what builds resentment keep in mind, it’s not a competition Tiffany Dufu, Drop the Ball, “we tend to be blind to household jobs that we don’t do.” cutting what is unnecessary and outsourcing (payment for something is related to privilege but doesn’t necessarily need to be an area of shame) 2018 compilation of studies from Harvard Business School – higher satisfaction in outsourcing discussion: https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/18-072_b1d8cdda-fbb1-46ae-afd7-6742d2195f25.pdf Asking questions:What can we stop doing?
What do we each like doing?
What do I never want to do?
How can we split it up?
think about it as a “communication playground” ongoing, constant conversation (29:52) marriage contract joke make trades ask for help in both directionsShort answer: talk about it, talk about it more, write it down, be extremely practical in this area
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Question:
How do we come to terms with the closure of a childhood friendship? What are ways to find contentment and peace when that friend no longer reaches out to us?
Submitted by listener, Emily
our childhood BFFs
Research moment: 1 in 10 friendships survive into adulthood
Children practice being a friend and there’s a learning curve. Children are learning how to be humans and learning relationship is part of that. Cultural misunderstandings – childhood friendships are backbones of our relational livesResearch shows that having childhood friendships matters, but social support is what really has an impact longitudinally.
Study with middle schoolers: http://www.llcsjournal.org/index.php/llcs/article/view/214
Learning the effort of friendship from models and mentors in our lives Naming the complexities of relationship for one another Friendship sometimes lasts for a moment, a season, or a lifetime. Some friendships will end, every friendship doesn’t have to be a lifetime relationship The difference between guilt and shame when a relationship ends Listening to the Spirit and your spirit for deciding where to put effort in friendships Taylor Swift, Long Pond Documentary - https://www.disneyplus.com/movies/folklore-the-long-pond-studio-sessions/3Xlc0EjKtKpp values and personalities more important over affinities and interestsResearch link: https://www.realsimple.com/work-life/family/relationships/why-adolescent-friendships-end
Concordia Publishing House values article: Honor the past as well as the present of the relationship v adding expectations, honor the other person’s sacrifice as well Growth mindset that allows grieving but also growing up. Friendships are best when the individuals grow in them, even if that means growing apart some people grow in the same direction and some in different directions, both are growth Non-judgment and letting people who they are Effort, asking for what you need, asking for what they need How to let go: allow yourself some space to grieve and be disappointed, connect with God’s unchanging nature and friendship, experience grace around the friendship Honor it – reflect on good memories, consider what that relationship brought into your life and practice gratitude for the gift DBT with Dave – let the friendship be what it is ;)Short answer: friendships have their seasons
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The Life in Relationship podcast answers one relationship question in each episode. Our goal is more genuineness and authenticity in each of our relationships each day.
Hear more about the new format on this short trailer and start submitting your questions to [email protected].
People are always worth the trouble and relationship is worth the effort.
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The epistles are what I like to think of as “big-word books.” They teach us about abstract concepts like propitiation, redemption, atonement, and righteousness. This can be intimidating, but also enlightening.
Today’s spiritual practice gives us grace for when we encounter big words in Scripture or big ideas. Our goal today is to also build our ability to sit in not knowing “the answer” and discovering new ideas about God or new understanding in our relationship with God by simply engaging with His Word.
A Reading from Jude from the ESV translation
Dave’s contemplation:
Blaspheme
Predictions of the apostles
Names in the passage
The practice:
Read through one of the letters of the New Testament or a chapter of the Bible
(Romans is always a good place to start if you aren’t sure where)
Focus on a word or phrase you don’t understand or are simply intrigued by
Tips:
Look at context
Scripture interprets Scripture
Look up cross references in your study Bible or on a Bible app or concordance
Ask a friend about it
Post on social media to hear other people’s thoughts on the word (considering the source and with the filter of the Word of God) or bring it up somewhere else
Pray for God to direct you in His Word to knowledge and understanding about this concept.
Ask a pastor or other theologian about Hebrew and Greek
Find the other related narratives in Scripture
Resources:
Concordia Commentaries - https://amzn.to/2TTtzck
People’s Commentaries - https://amzn.to/3j3urWb
(affiliate links)
https://blog.cph.org/read/4-ways-to-draw-near-in-the-new-year
© 2019 Concordia Publishing House. Used with permission.
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Always Growing: The Spiritual Practice of Adventure
Practices for spiritual growth – always focusing on drawing near
Greg Finke = Where are we going today, Jesus?
Joining Jesus on His mission - https://amzn.to/3u5JAcb
God wants to do daily life with us –
Name 3 places you go in your day or week that God goes with you
Life is an adventure – Seeing the adventure right where you are at
What adventures can you spot in your own home or family?
How do we encounter trouble in our daily life?
How do we encounter questions and searching?
Where do we encounter resolution and restoration?
Where do you see God sending people to help you along the way?
The Open Hands -
Slowly read through a short passage in the Gospel accounts.
Who is Jesus connecting with in this account? Where is He going? What is He doing and/or saying?Open your hands up and ask God where He would like to send Jesus into the world, through you today.
How is the Holy Spirit faithfully directing your words in daily conversations? Remembering experiences of adventure and God’s faithfulness
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Episode 16 – Always Growing: Practices for Spiritual Growth
being with God v. producing something for God
We can be doing all kinds of things for God, but very little to draw near to God.
Today and to come: four practices for drawing near
useful every day and especially useful for connecting to God in and around our challenges
Thanks to CPH for letting me pull apart this article and use it a little more.
What are your practices for drawing near to God?
Organic as well as intentional
Being aware/conscious in our traditions
Where does the growth from your daily practices/yearly practices come from?
Which are adding growth and awareness and which are added extra?
Reading God’s heart rather than about growth
Gottman Sound Relationship House Theory - https://www.gottman.com/blog/what-is-the-sound-relationship-house/
Drawing near = connecting with God, building love maps with God, rituals of connection with God
What is stopping us from drawing near to God? Identify your barriers
Where is God working to transform you through those challenges?
https://blog.cph.org/read/4-ways-to-draw-near-in-the-new-year
© 2019 Concordia Publishing House. Used with permission.
Always Growing in Awe
The Spiritual Practice of Woah
“Sometimes we need to see and remember God as big and infinite. He can’t always be understood through the relationships we see and experience here on earth. As you sit down to draw near, pull out Genesis 1 or Job 38. Look around you and notice one detail of nature and creation. Consider God’s voice speaking this thing into being.
What care does God have for this one small detail? What authority does He have over it? What gift(s) does He give us through it?
Imagine how Jesus will restore all things in the new creation. Ask Him what He has put before you to steward and care for in the meantime.”
Give yourself a moment to be woahed by God and His care of all things.
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Special guest: Rev. Michael Newman
Tell us about yourself and your journey with grief.
What aspects of grief make growth challenging?
“big” and “small” loses
Grief upon grief + grace upon grace
Lack of cultural methods for honoring grief
shame/disempowerment in loss and grief
Relational resources designed to be shared
Hope When Your Heart Breaks
doses of God meeting you in darkness and pain of grief for self, for others good choiceGetting through Grief
adult and youth version charting a course – 8 gifts God gives to help us through griefconversation, forgiveness, love, hope, faith, community, purpose, presence
What practices help us connect to God, rather than turning away from God, in our grief?
Time to be in God’s presence
Dialogue with God
Watching for God’s work
Tell us about any particular resources you would recommend for grieving and growth.
Resurrection story of Jesus
Joy of the Lord is our strength
Romans 8
Lazarus
Jacob wrestling with God
“Struggle Well” - https://amzn.to/38D6NKf“God Meant it for God” by RT Kendall - https://amzn.to/30KT5R7
Henri Nouwen “The Return of the Prodigal Son” - https://amzn.to/3liViMW
People in recovery programs
*these are affiliate links
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