Episodes
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My friend Sharlee Mullins Glenn (noted author, former adjunct faculty at BYU, committed Latter-day Saint, married mother of 5, founder and former Executive Director of MWEG) joins us to talk about her important and groundbreaking new book, an expansive epic poem full of imagination and possibilities, centering the feminine divine.
In the words of Fiona Givens, Sharlee’s epic poem “is an ambitious and beautiful rendering of Latter-day Saint beliefs and yearnings regarding the feminine divine, the ethos of existence, and the centrality of agency, relationships and love.”
Some of the ideas Sharlee shared include:
Her book is fiction--a blending of theology, science, and imagination
It is an offering of imagination, and does not purport to set forth doctrine
Imagination is a spiritual gift and reflects God's divine nature
The inclusion of the feminine divine was driven by two burning questions: 1) Where are the women in the grand, ancient story of our beginnings, and 2) What good is a doctrine if we never speak of it or seek greater light and knowledge concerning it?
Her hope is that her "offering of imagination" will prompt others to examine the boundaries of their own paradigms and consider new possibilities
Heavenly Mother “will be unveiled again”
This is a unique and insightful podcast focused on a book (which is a beautiful poem) that is a reimagining of the entire scope of existence, centering the feminine divine and the preeminence of love. I learned so much from Sharlee and encourage our listeners to read her book and share it with others.
Links:
Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1961471205/
Barnes and Noble: www.barnesandnoble.com/w/1147162041 -
My friend Sara Sumsion (RM, Age 30, YSA ward leader, getting a master’s degree in marriage and family therapy) joins us to share her unique story. Sara starts with her good father’s decision to leave the Church and her initial judgements about his decision. She then shares her difficult mission experience including spiritual abuse that nearly broke her and led to her considering leaving the Church.
Sara talks about finding the grey and her intentional decision to stay in the Church, her reconstructed testimony, and her desire to help others find hope and healing. Sara talks about her road to become a vocal LGBTQ Ally including her Instagram post of her non-binary friend. Sara talks about helping everyone feel welcome in their YSA ward and also practicing boundaries/good communication when interacting with less active members.
Sara concludes with her Mother’s Day lesson including a focus on Heavenly Mother and helping all women feel good and welcome (regardless of their current status or feelings regarding motherhood).
If you are working to stay in the Church, Sara’s journey may help you. And if you are looking for more insights about how to teach/organize a positive meeting on Mother’s Day, Sara suggestions may help you. And if you are looking to create a safer place in your Ward, Sara’s story may help you.
Thank you, Sara, for your work to create Zion. I learned so much from you. You give me hope for the future of our Church and world. I see the example of Jesus reflected in your ministry. Honored to have you on the podcast!
Links:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sara.sumsion
IG: @sar_assumption/ -
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My dear friends, Susan Hinckley and Cynthia Winward, (co-founders of the “At Last She Said It Project” which includes their groundbreaking podcast—with over 200 episodes and 2+ million downloads) join us to talk about their new book.
Their book (published by Signature Books) invites readers to consider new perspectives, be open to changing our minds, and how growth can be uncomfortable—and how this leads to helping more fellow Latter-day Saints feel valued, welcome and how to have more belonging.
The book helps us better understand patriarchy within the church and how this can cause pain for both women and men—and what we can do in our area of influence to improve. The book also addresses many other topics within the church to help us build Zion including:
Discipling
Obedience
Fear
Repentance
Worthiness
Cynthia's Personal Essay: “Works for Me”
Susan's Personal Essay: “Metamorphosis”
Speaking Up
Why I Wear a Cross
I’ve learned so much from these two good women about better ministering to others. I wish their podcast and book existed decades ago—it would have helped me be a better husband, father, church member—and better lift (versus sometimes add) to the burdens of others. I encourage everyone to read/share their book.
Thank you, Susan and Cynthia. You two are awesome.
Links:
Book and podcast: atlastshesaidit.org/ -
My friend Elder Jax Smith (multi-racial, from Highland Utah, Age 25) joins us to bravely share his story:
Middle school: “My personal hell”
Coming out to older siblings
Suicidal ideation, hospitalization, “choosing to stay”
Decision to serve a mission/called to Alabama Birmingham
Reason for ending his mission and leaving the Church
Role of good people (like Elder Jenkins) to help him return to Church
Difficult YSA experience attending with his boyfriend—left the Church for a second time
Focusing on Jesus and attending Baptist Church
Bishop’s (also his uncle) invitation to attend his YSA Ward
Calling that led him to full activity, becoming a temple worker, and going back on a mission
Others (like Elder Wright and Brother Monson) that helped him accept himself and feel like he belonged
Navigating church generated pain/trauma/difficult experiences
Powerful testimony of Jesus Christ and His power to heal
This is another super powerful/brave podcast from a remarkable Latter-day Saint. Thank you Elder Jax Smith for being on the podcast. You are a remarkable disciple of Christ, and your story helps others walking difficult roads—and it helps the rest of us have more insights to help everyone feel like the belong and better create Zion. You are a good man!
Links:
Jax Smith Facebook: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61556810127958
Jax Smith Instagram: @smith_3_55_ -
My friend Leon Crandell (lives in Snowflake AZ, cosmetologist, Brazil RM) joins us to bravely share his story:
Survivor of sexual abuse
Turning to substance abuse to deal with/escape the shame of sexual abuse
Later abused by a doctor on his mission—and the shame of wondering why me
Concluding being a victim of sexual abuse isn’t why he is gay
Getting married (married for 27 years) and not really addressing his sexual orientation
Gradually opening up to his wife—and their road to stay in their marriage and the Church
Finding community of others walking this road
Asking Heavenly Father “What do you think of me”? Super helpful
Powerful (and healing) experience in a conversation with Jesus
Kurt Francom’s impactful book “Is God Disappointed in Me”
Hope instead of shame/fear
This is a super powerful, vulnerable, and insightful podcast to help listeners see the role of Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ to help us find more hope/peace in our lives—and how our unique differences help us reach others—helping to create Zion.
You are super brave Leon. Your courage to be honest gives hope to others. You are a good man! Honored to have you on the podcast.
Links:
Leon’s podcast: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/coming-untwo-christ/id1752406845
Leon’s webpage: cominguntwochrist.com/
Leon on Facebook: www.facebook.com/leon.crandell
Leon on Instagram: @cominguntwochrist
Kurt Francom’s book: www.amazon.com/dp/B0CT67RS86
Dr Robinson: www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9jO9iMbm5U -
My friend Darice (married mother of four including a transgender daughter, Gather Conference Director) joins us to share her story including:
1) Proximity to LGBTQ people—seeing their goodness/gifts/kindness
2) Being uncomfortable with the 2015 policy statements—"didn’t align with my spiritual integrity”
3) Being called as Stake Relief Society President and her work to help everyone feel loved and that they belong—including having a Stake inclusion specialist
4) Supporting her transgender daughter and her upcoming marriage to her non-binary partner
5) Living in “complexity” and how that gives her more perspective/tools to help others
6) Getting involved with Gather
7) Upcoming Gather Conference on June 27-28, 2025
Thank you, Darice, for your work to bless so many lives. I encourage everyone to listen to Darice’s story and attend Gather. Thank you for all your work (and many others with Gather) to build Zion and help everyone feel loved and welcome.
Links:
Gather Conference: thegatherconference.regfox.com/gather-conference-worldwide-2025
Gather Conference Registration: thegatherconference.regfox.com/gather-conference-worldwide-2025
Lift and Love Support Groups: www.liftandlove.org/meeting
Darice on Instagram: @dariceauston -
My friend Helen Anderson (Lives in Utah County, BYU Grad, Mother of 4, LGBTQ Ally) joins us to share her story:
· Exposure to gay people in the 70’s and 80’s—becoming supportive
· Carol Lynn Pearson’s book
· Documentary called “TransMormon” and how it helped prepare her
· Journey to love, see, understand, and accept her transgender daughter
· Pronouns
· OK to cry
· High school graduation (great experience)
· University of Utah welcome/housing (great experience)
· Have a transgender/non-binary child is not a sad tragedy—but can become a beautiful family love story
Helen also talks about her new variety show called “Dear Mom: Celebrating Mothers of LGBTQIA+ Children” on May 10th (see show notes for more information).
Thank you, Helen, for your courage to come on the podcast and share your beautiful family love story. I’m grateful for your voice and experiences to help us better support the transgender people in our lives—for they are wonderful.
Links:
Variety Show on May 10th, 2025: https://www.werehereutah.com/dearmom
Helen on Instagram: @helenandersoncomedy -
*** This episode talks about suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text/chat *988 ***
My friend Lucas Batista (grew up in Brazil, lived in Spain, RM/Chile) joins us to share his story including:
1) Growing up knowing he was like his gay mom (and all the negative comments about gay people)
2) Shame and “always wearing a mask”
3) Temple helping him feel less shame—never felt rejected by God
4) Great mission experience in Chile—came out to both Mission Presidents
5) Suicidal ideation after his mission—role of friends to give hope—including one who said “It’s OK—I will be with you to the end”
6) Letter to “future me”
7) Not broken, coming on the podcast to reduce shame and give others hope
Thank you, Lucas, for your courage to come on the podcast and share your unique story. You are super brave. You story will help others to feel less shame, more acceptance, and hope for the future. You are a good man who has bless many lives. Our church and world are a better place with Lucas Batista part of it!
Links:
Lucas on Instagram: @luccabattistta
Lucas on Facebook: facebook.com/lucas.silvabatista.14
Facebook Group to support LGBTQ Latter-day Saints: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1433556613672143 -
My friend Lyric Kinard (lives in Raleigh, married mother of 5 including queer kids, active Latter-day Saint) joins us to share her story around creating support groups and an invitation to attend Gather Southeast (in Raleigh, NC) on Sept 20, 2025). Lyric talks about:
Principles for starting a support group
Engaging local leaders
Importance of speaking up and having a second witness
Creating safe spaces at church
Gather Southeast
Why she wears her transgender scarf to Church
Being like Jesus
Thank you, Lyric, for being on the podcast and all your work (along with many others in your area) to help LGBTQ Latter-day Saints feel more welcome, loved and needed. It is people like you that give me hope. You are making a huge difference for good.
Links:
Gather Southeast: www.gathersoutheast.com/
Gather Southeast Newsletter: www.gathersoutheast.com/f/gather-se-newsletter
Gather Southeast Instagram: www.instagram.com/gather_southeast/
Gather Southeast Facebook: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61563441041765
Lyric’s e-mail: [email protected]
Resource Files at “Supporting LGBTQ Latter-day Saints”: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1433556613672143 -
My friend McKay Mayes (from Wyoming, London South RM, Age 29, Lives/Works in Utah County) joins us to share his story including:
Always believing/hoping he would be fixed and be straight
Great mission experience—but still gay
Not fitting the typical gay stereotype
Dating and trying to make it work with a woman—wanted to follow God’s plan—super painful not finding a way to make that possible
Feeling “left behind” as straight friends got married
For six years, committed to being single in line with the Church’s celibate guidance—leading to the darkest/most painful moments of McKay’s life
New prayers (instead of “fix me”)
Finding hope, acceptance of being gay, and purpose in his new path
Relationship with the Church and hopes for changes
First coming out experience (super helpful)
I continue to be amazed by the brave/mature/thoughtful people who share their stories on the podcast—with McKay joining that group—and his desire to give hope to others walking a similar road.
Thank you, McKay, for all you have done to bless/help the lives of others (mission, EFY counselor, etc) and continue to do so with your courage to be out/honest and be on the podcast to give hope to others. You are a good man with a great life ahead of you!
Links:
McKay on Instagram: @mckay_mayes
McKay on Facebook: www.facebook.com/mckay.mayes.7
Obsolete vs current teachings: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/mxcr5fo9rxl29by4wvc9q/Obsolete-and-Current-Teachings-LGBTQ.docx?rlkey=e1dbc3iffua4nwwscpg911uzw&dl=0 -
My friend Barbara Higinbotham (married mother of 5 living children including a non-binary child, transgender daughter, and gay son; early 60s; recently returned in early 2025 from serving a senior mission with her husband Dan). Barbara shares:
Assumptions should be challenged, being uncomfortable leads to growth
Being LGBTQ doesn’t make someone a predator
Why she chooses to honor the new names (Ben and Heather) and her non-binary child and transgender daughter including updated Christmas stockings
Focus on the temple (current temple workers) and our Savior to find revelation, hope, and peace—and anchoring in the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Trusting/believing her children
We are not better church members by distancing ourselves from the LGBTQ people in our lives
Processing unkind comments in Church and on social media
Managing grief with changing expectations
Thank you, Barbara, for being on the podcast. I wish I could have listened to you 10-20 years ago—your insights would have helped to be a better disciple of Christ. I encourage everyone to listen/share this episode, as we work to “hasting the work” by “gathering Isreal”—which includes our LGBTQ friend, family and church members.
Links:
Barbara on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/barbara.morrellhiginbotham -
My friend my friend Cort Watson (construction management major/BYI-Idaho, from Tremonton, Arcadia CA RM, former FSY counselor) joins us to bravely share his story including:
Navigating feeling different, not sure believed in Church, deciding to serve a mission
Coming out first to his junior companion and then his Mission President (both good experiences)
Processing pain (and subsequent anger to God) about being gay
Deep spiritual experiences (and role of the temple) to “thank God for making me this way”
Being gay is part of the God’s plan for me and not a punishment
Come out on social media in 2024 to help others
Being laser focus on Christ to provide hope, help and healing
Role of the temple to feel God’s love and direction
Life at BYI-Idaho as a gay student (positive experience)
Thank you, Cort, for your courage to share your story with others. Your courage/vulnerability helps others that they too are loved by God and needed in our church community. Thanks for helping us build Zion. You are a good man.
Links:
Cort on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cortland.watson.96
Cort on Instagram: @wat.cort_
Cort’s e-mail: [email protected] -
My friend Eric Hales (a highly recommended therapist, gay, mid-30s, former Latter-day Saint, licensed in Utah, Idaho, Nevada, and Virginia) joins us to talk about his work supporting the queer and Latter-day Saint community. Eric starts by sharing some of his story and then talks about key concepts that promote healing, including:
Creating safety
Healing from wounds
Self-compassion
Addressing shame-based trauma and C-PTSD
What to look for in a therapist
Understanding and addressing numbing behaviors
This is one of the finest and most insightful podcasts we’ve done with a therapist. I learned so much from Eric. If you want to better understand how a therapist can help you (or others), want better tools to support others, or are queer and looking for more hope, self-love, and healing, please listen to Eric’s podcast and share it with others. This is the kind of episode I wish I had heard before becoming a parent and a local church leader. When we know better, we do better.
Thank you, Eric, for being on the podcast and for your work to help others find hope, healing, and peace. Your work is so needed in our community.
Links:
Eric’s e-mail: [email protected]
Eric’s practice: https://meetmonarch.com/therapist/eric-jeffrey-hales-lcsw-murray-ut
More about Eric: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/eric-hales-murray-ut/936761
Facebook Group to support LGBTQ Latter-day Saints: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1433556613672143 -
My friend Kelsey Wells (RM, from Idaho, lives in Utah County, former EFY counselor and seminary teacher, active in her ward) joins us to bravely share her story. Kelsey starts with coming out to her mother (senior year of high school) and the good/difficult experiences—including how not talking about it brings shame.
Kelsey talks about wanting to service a mission but putting that on pause because she realized she was not doing that for the right reasons. Kelsey shares what changed and how she ended up serving.
Kelsey bravely talks about getting engaged to a man and how that engagement ended a few weeks before the wedding. Kelsey talks about ignoring red flags because of her desire to get married and have a family. Kelsey talks about being in the Temple and a sealer sharing some thoughts that gave her clarity and courage to end the engagement.
Kelsey talks about not wanting to be alive—but finding hope in Christ, therapy and the Questions From the Closet podcast. Kelsey also talks about “fear is where Satan thrives”.
Kelsey talks about why she stays a member of the Church, joy in being a EFY councilor and teaching seminary, and helping others find hope.
Thank you Kelsey for being on the podcast. You are so emotionally and spiritually mature. You are also so brave. You being open helps others walking this road and helps us better create Zion.
Links:
Instagram: Instagram: @kelswayan
Email: [email protected]
Current Teaching versus Obsolete Teachings: www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/mxcr5fo9rxl29by4wvc9q/Obsolete-and-Current-Teachings-LGBTQ.docx?rlkey=e1dbc3iffua4nwwscpg911uzw&dl=0 -
My friend Marley Orton (married mother of three, mid-50s, Utah County, real estate broker/hair stylist, RM) joins us to share her story of love and acceptance of her non-binary child CC. Marley starts with the pregnancy of this child knowing it was twins and having that confirmed via ultrasound. However, that changed with “Vanishing Twin Syndrome” where she ended up with one child.
Marley talks about CC being sensitive, focused on those left out, sweet and a great sibling to their younger brother Zac. Marley talks about CC coming out as pansexual at age 16 and the body dysphoria they felt and feeling ostracized—especially at church. Marley talks about—with the help of a great therapist—CC understanding the identity that resonated with them: non-binary—and how CC's mental health and hope for the future improved with the process of transitioning.
Marley talks about discovering “Chimera Twin Syndrome” and how this could bring a more scientific understanding to CC being non-binary. Marley talks about being the mother of three wonderful children—all whom have stepped away from the church—and what they are doing in their family to stay close together and love each other. Marley talks about how we can improve church culture—including being open to new perspectives so that more feel loved, welcomed, and needed.
I learned so much from Marley. If you are open to learning more to support queer Latter-day Saints and improve church culture, I encourage you to listen to Marley’s podcast and share it with others. Thank you, Marley, for being on the podcast! And thank you CC for the great person you are and allowing your story to be shared.
Links:
E-mail: [email protected].
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marley.orton
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marley.orton/ -
My friend Matt Higinbotham (RM from Tempe Arizona, returned Feb 2024, from Utah County, BYU student) joins us to share his story as a gay Latter-day Saint. Matt talks about his early years figuring out his sexuality and his journey to realize (and then accept) he is gay. Matt talks about the role of prayer, scripture study, and temple attendance to help feel God’s love, acceptance, hope for his future and the desire to serve/help others (a big reason he did the podcast).
Matt talks about his desire to serve a mission and how that hope eventually became a reality—all while being open with his church leaders about his sexual orientation. Matt talks about the positive and painful experience of being gay and on a mission. Some the negative ones were around gay jokes (missionaries and members) and some of the positive ones were where being open about being gay allowing him to help others know they too could feel God’s love, and acceptance.
Matt talks about how navigating a variety of experience (including Church leader talks that were painful), being an EFY counselor (and teaching the Family Proclamation), seeing the Y lit up in pride colors, unfairness (compared to straight members) of being gay (and not having a path to have a marriage and still fully participate in the Church).
I learned so much from Matt—a thoughtful, spiritually mature, deeply insightful, and remarkable man. You are a good man Matt with a wonderful future. Thank you for blessing so many people on your mission and doing this podcast which will give others hope—and help us better love and support each other as we build Zion.
Links:
Matt on Facebook: www.facebook.com/matthew.higinbotham.5
Matt on IG: @matthiggy134
Matt’s e-mail: [email protected] -
My friend Trevor Schoeny (RM from Lubbock Texas, returned Dec 2024, from Virgina/DC, BYU student, Age 23) joins us to share his story as a gay Latter-day Saint. Trevor starts with realizing he is gay and then coming out to his parents after his senior year (positive experience).
Trevor talks about stepping away from the Church (which helped him eventually come back to the Church) and his brave (and somewhat surprising) decision to serve a mission (and walk back into a place of trauma)—because he wanted to help others heal from pain and find love.
Trevor (who reads scriptures throughout the podcast) talks about all the things he learned and taught on his mission including:
* Fear has no place in the Gospel
* His crucible moment when he decided to stay on his mission
* No one should feel they are not celestial material
* Importance of vulnerability
* Finding our story in the scriptures
I was so moved listening to and learning from Trevor—a great man who was been through the “winepress” representing the difficult road of a queer Latter-day Saint—and his ability to help others find hope, belonging and peace. You are a man of great courage.
You are a good man, Trevor. I’m honored to have you on the podcast. Everyone in the Church needs to hear like Trevor as we build Zion. Please listen and share this episode.
Links:
Trevor on FB: https://www.facebook.com/trevorschoeny
Trevor on IG: https://www.instagram.com/trevorschoeny/
Trevor’s e-mail: [email protected] -
*** This episode talks about suicide. If you are suicidal, please call/text/chat *988 ***
My friends Jake and Joe Sharp (identical twins, age 24, from Mesa Arizona, RMs) join us to talk about their life work to help others choose to stay, turn to positive coping behaviors, finding hope and the role of the Atonement of Jesus Christ to heal from pain.
Jake and Joe start with the story of losing their younger brother Sam to suicide at age 16 while they were on their missions. They talk about the goodness of Sam—as well as the difficult mental health challenges (OCD, toxic perfection, etc) that Sam faced, and all their family was doing to help him find hope. They talk about the heartbreaking pain, anger, and guilt they faced—and how Christ and therapy has helped them heal.
They talk about unhealthy coping behaviors to deal with the pain (pornography use and overeating) and how they learned better tools/behaviors helping to be in a better place. They talk about shame and how that is Satan’s greatest tool to separate us from the love of our Heavenly Parents and the Savior—and how shame has no place in the gospel of Jesus Christ.
They talk about the importance of vulnerability, therapy, fitness, doing a “forgive fast” for ourselves, we are not broken, and our Savior to give hope/peace. If you are suicidal, Jake and Joe’s story will help you. We all invite you to stay. If you are working through grief of losing someone to suicide, their story will help you. If you are working to solve porn use (or better tools to help others), their story will help you.
Thank you, Jake and Joe, for being on the podcast. I learned so much from you. Thank you for your courage to talk about these subjects to give others hope. You are good men doing many hope/healing in our community. Honored to have you on the podcast.
Links:
Jake and Joe’s Instagram and TikTok: @jdoufit
Their Mom’s Podcast (Pam Sharp): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fight-hard-love-much/id1615231547 -
My friend Dr. Matthew L Harris (Historian, Colorado State University) joins us to talk about his powerful new book called “Second-Class Saints: Black Mormons and the Struggle for Racial Equality”— a fifteen-year labor of love. In Matt’s book (which was a powerful read for me), he draws on never-before-seen private papers of LDS apostles and church presidents—including Spencer W. Kimball to help us understand the complexity of ending the ban—something that President Kimball considered long before becoming Church President.
Matt talks about why the ban started, who started it, how it became official doctrine for decades, and what shifted to cause church leaders to end the ban. Matt also talks about why ending the ban didn’t end racist teachings about black people—how all those prior teachings have now been refuted—but still might exists in our culture.
Matt discusses key questions like was the ban doctrine or policy? Was it “just not time yet to end the ban”? And other important questions. Matt also talks about the importance of proximity by senior church leaders to those hurt by the ban and how those stories/experience changed hearts and were key to considering lifting it.
Matt also shares insights on possible parallels to the priesthood ban and the experience of LGB Latter-day Saints who may also feel like “second-class saints”.
I learned so much from Matt’s book and loved having him on the podcast. I encourage everyone to read his book and then consider what each of us can do to better support those of the margins.
Links:
Matt’s book at Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/019769571X
Matt’s webpage: https://matthewlharris.org/ -
My friend Richard Hanks (mid 60s, retired business executive, active Latter-day Saint/former Mission President) joins us to talk about his biography of his father Elder Marion D. Hanks (beloved general authority—called at age 31—who lived from 1921-2011) in his book called “To Be a Friend of Christ: The Life of Marion D. Hanks.”
Richard talks about his father’s unique approach to the gospel and his work—focused on following Christ—advocating for: increasing the church's humanitarian efforts, Christian service by full-time missionaries, acceptance of those on the fringes, the creation of singles wards, combining High Priests and Elders quorums, adapting garments to local climates, civil marriage before sealings, a kinder and more merciful approach to repentance, and a strong/vocal desire to end the priesthood ban—all while being deeply committed to the Church and supportive of its leaders.
Richard talks about key areas of his father’s ministry including “aggressive Christianity versus aggressive proselytizing”; “souls versus statistics ”; and “this is the only true church/others are wrong" versus "The more excellent way.” He further talks about his father’s work to focus the mission of the Church on Christ, bring the Christus to Temple Square, teaching faith over dogma and certitudes, and principles to help those with legitimate concerns stay in the Church.
I was always aware of and grateful for the ministry of Elder Hanks, but it wasn’t until becoming familiar with Richard’s book about his father, that I realized how unique, progressive, and needed was his ministry in the Church, all he accomplished, and the many lives he blessed being laser focused on helping people "Come unto Christ."
If you are looking for hope for the future of the Church and how your contributions are needed, I encourage you to read Richard’s book. Thank you, Richard, for making this book possible, and for your work to create Zion.
Links:
Richard’s book at Amazon: www.amazon.com/dp/1560854723
Contacting Richard: [email protected] - Show more
