Episodes
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From broken-down cars and cell phones to kicked-down doors and family disagreements, this episode has it all. It’s often said that the best conversations begin with confession, and that’s precisely how this episode on marriage unfolds. The night before this recording, the Dasher family experienced a disagreement that adds a little extra color to this flavorful and enriching discussion, filled with topics such as: How do you know they’re the one? Do you need the perfect “setup” to get married? What does it mean to be known? Comparison, and what happens when the honeymoon phase is over.
Tune in as two young newlyweds discuss the joys and challenges of merging different family dynamics while learning to “leave and cleave.” Zach and Jill share crucial lessons they have learned through their mistakes and attempts to “pretend their way” through marriage.
If you’re looking for an honest conversation from two married couples who don’t claim to be experts but are simply pursuing the heart of God through the power of the Holy Spirit, then you won’t want to miss this episode. The fig leaves are coming off in this challenging yet truth-filled discussion, encouraging us to reach a greater level of knowing our spouse. -
“What if I’ve blasphemed the Holy Spirit?” It’s a question that lingers in the minds of many believers—and honestly, it’s one we’ve heard more than a few times. It’s a question I have asked myself before. In this episode of Not Yet Now, Jill, Brandon, and I sit down to unpack this often misunderstood and deeply sobering topic.
We dig into what it actually means to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, why this sin is treated differently in Scripture, and how the Holy Spirit’s role is to guide us into truth, reveal the heart of God, and continually call us to repentance. But when that voice is rejected—when God’s revelation is persistently denied—the consequences are eternal.
Throughout the conversation, we explore the importance of community in keeping our faith anchored. Our identity as believers isn’t just personal; it’s communal. We were never meant to walk this road alone, and when it comes to discerning truth, fighting spiritual apathy, and turning back to God, the support of a Christ-centered community is essential.
We also talk about the seriousness of sin and the danger of a heart that becomes hardened over time. A healthy fear of God is actually good for us; it keeps us spiritually alert and dependent on grace. But here’s the good news we keep coming back to: repentance is always available to those who seek it. The fact that you’re concerned about blaspheming the Spirit may be the very sign that your heart is still soft enough to respond.
Ultimately, we land where we always do—at the cross. Christ’s sacrifice is enough. No matter your past, no matter your questions, He is sufficient. So if this has been weighing on you, don’t carry it alone. Join the conversation, and let’s walk through it together. -
Will you join the kingdom or stand against it? In this episode, we dive deep into a riveting confrontation in Mark 3, where Jesus boldly transitions from speaking truth to entering the fray. The simple act of healing a withered hand reveals profound truths about power, compassion, and community.
The Pharisees were not seeking truth; they were ready to accuse, embodying a spirit of suspicion that still breeds division today. This episode unpacks the polarizing relationship between the Pharisees and the Herodians, who found unity not in truth, but in enmity toward Jesus. Their anger over the healing stemmed from a fear of losing control.
Jesus, however, remains steadfast in his mission, moving with compassion and clarity. When they go low, he dives even deeper—into purpose, love, and the essence of life. The kingdom is not just about avoiding death; it invites us into unity under Christ.
Jill shares an eye-opening excerpt from her book, Shallow, highlighting the dangers of slander that poison the body. We discuss how Jesus redefines the Sabbath—not as a rule to break, but as an original intent to restore. His choice of twelve disciples isn't random; it's a reconstruction of Israel’s foundation, building a new temple that includes all of us.
This conversation will challenge how you view conflict, control, compassion, and the movement of God. It doesn’t need a strategy—just willing hearts to follow the King. -
Why does rest feel so wrong? In a culture that idolizes hustle and busyness, the idea of Sabbath can feel almost rebellious. But Jesus said something stunning: “The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.” What if rest wasn’t a command to obey but a gift to receive?In this episode, Zach and Jill Dasher are joined by Brandon to unpack the deep spiritual roots of Sabbath—from Eden’s stillness to Jesus’ fierce defense of rest. Together, they peel back the layers of guilt, performance, and fear that keep us from ceasing.You’ll hear: • Why true Sabbath exposes us more than it soothes us. • How we use busyness like fig leaves to cover our fear and shame. • The danger of turning rest into another box to check—or a spiritual competition. • What it means to “get rid” instead of “get right” before God. • Why Sabbath is a mirror into our identity—and a doorway into real freedom.
This isn’t just a call to slow down. It’s a call to come home. To take off your sandals. To drop the comparisons. To be with God unguarded, unhurried, and unmeasured.
This is Sabbath as invitation, not obligation. A gift from the One who is never in a hurry and never in doubt. “You don’t get right to come near to God—you get rid.” Join us as we rethink rest in a restless world. Not Yet Now Episode 33 will change the way you see your calendar—and your soul. -
When a man of God like Phil Robertson finishes his race, the ripple effects can’t be measured in headlines — they’re found in legacy. In this special episode of Not Yet Now, Zach and Jill reflect on the life and passing of Zach’s Uncle Phil: a patriarch whose quiet obedience to King Jesus bore fruit across generations.
At a time when our culture dismisses the value of fathers, mothers, and generational wisdom, we pause to honor a man who defied that trend — not with power, but with steadfast love and truth. Phil’s life was rooted in the Genesis mandate to be fruitful and multiply, not just biologically, but spiritually — raising up sons, daughters, and disciples anchored in the Kingdom.
We talk about what it means to live slow in a microwave culture, to let wisdom ferment with time, and why the death of a faithful elder might just be one of the most countercultural moments we can celebrate. This is a call to remember. A call to honor. A call to live for something that outlives us. -
"How do you start a house church?” It's one of the most honest—and loaded—questions we’ve been asked. In this episode of Not Yet Now, we open the door to a vulnerable, Spirit-led conversation about the church outside the institution. Through stories of hurt and healing, we wrestle with the tensions between tradition and authenticity, programs and presence, leadership and love. We explore what it means to gather in the name of Jesus, not around discontent, but around communion and community. If you’ve been burned, bored, or just burdened by church-as-usual, this episode invites you into something smaller, slower, and maybe more sacred.
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Zach and Jill pull an all nighter and are reminded of their college ministry days after their kids host a worship night at their house. This leads to discussing the importance of intentional gatherings, and Brandon shares a story of God’s perfect timing involving a young man’s motorcycle trip from California to North Carolina.
Getting into the scripture, they reflect on the role of the Pharisees in the context of Jesus' teachings, particularly regarding fasting and spiritual practices.
The episode concludes with insights on the dynamics of church growth and the criticisms that often accompany it. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the abundant love of God, the importance of a growing relationship with Christ, and the call to embrace the newness of life in Him. -
Jesus didn’t come for the healthy—but for the sick. If you’ve ever felt like you’re not enough, too far gone, or just quietly restless inside, this episode is for you.
We explore the story of Levi the tax collector, a man who traded integrity for status and ended up empty—until Jesus showed up. His calling reveals something powerful: your deepest longing isn’t a flaw. It’s a signpost. A sacred echo. A hunger that only the kingdom of God can satisfy.
This episode begins with a rite of passage trip to England for a young man named Lucas, leading into a conversation on manhood, identity, and how the gospel has shaped world history through broken people transformed by grace. We unpack how Jesus’ mercy overrides religious performance, how Levi’s response reflects the longing in all of us, and why the kingdom of heaven is already breaking into the ordinary moments of life. -
Zach and Jill know what getting punched in the gut feels like. They kick things off by sharing a personal story — the kind that leaves you asking, what now? Sometimes the roof caves in (literally or figuratively), and it forces you to reckon with where real healing and connection are found.
We dive into why spiritual authenticity matters when the storms come, and why true ministry happens far beyond the walls of a church — it happens in homes, over meals, through honest friendships, and right in the middle of life's chaos.
As we walk through Mark’s account of the paralytic and the ripped-off roof, we unpack the profound moment when Jesus calls Himself the Son of Man — and claims the authority not just to heal broken bodies but to forgive sins. It’s a reminder that healing isn’t just physical; it’s a soul-deep restoration only Christ can offer.
We also talk about how easy it is to chase fulfillment in the wrong places, how divine disruption can open the door to faith, and how staying close to Jesus transforms everything — our healing, our identity, and our sense of purpose.
If you’re feeling the weight of unmet expectations or longing for something more authentic, this conversation is for you. There’s healing, there’s forgiveness, and there’s real life to be found — right at the feet of Jesus.
In this episode:
Mark 2 verses 1-12
Daniel 7 verses 13-14 -
What happens to our souls in a world increasingly run by artificial intelligence? In this episode of Not Yet Now, we’re diving headfirst into that question. I sit down with the crew to wrestle with what it means to grow, learn, and serve in a digital age that often values efficiency over authenticity. We unpack how easy it is to outsource not just our tasks, but our humanity—and why that should concern us.
But this isn’t just a conversation about machines and algorithms. We go deeper—into the heart of Jesus’ ministry. In a culture obsessed with power, position, and influence, Jesus flips the script. He doesn't climb the ladder. He kneels. He touches the untouchable. We reflect on the biblical stories of the sick, the isolated, and the forgotten—those living at the fringes—and what it meant for Jesus to step into their world, not with a program or policy, but with compassion and presence.
We also get raw about the real challenges of ministry—the weariness, the loneliness, and the temptation to perform rather than abide. But in that space, we rediscover the beauty of humility and the radical call to be the hands and feet of Christ in a world that’s hurting. This conversation is an invitation to slow down, press in, and remember: Jesus came not just to heal, but to restore our connection with God and with one another. -
In this episode, the hosts reflect on the growth and evolution of the Not Yet Now podcast, emphasizing how community interaction has deepened the conversation around faith and spiritual renewal. Diving into Mark’s Gospel, the conversation unpacks Jesus’ unique and transformative authority—distinct from religious leaders—revealing His power over the cosmic battle between good and evil. The hosts explore spiritual warfare, the tangible reality of evil, and how fear can overwhelm us when confronted with darkness. Yet, they point decisively to Christ's ultimate authority and victory.
They further discuss how anchoring our identity in Christ provides clarity and strength in struggles with mental health, anxiety, and despair. Ultimately, the episode underscores the role of the church in responding to the Holy Spirit, who initiates revival, and equipping believers to live confidently in Christ’s authority—reminding listeners that the same power that raised Christ from the dead is actively at work within us today. -
Zach and Jill are looking to re-do their premarital counseling after a spirited debate over the Final Four. It's an entertaining start as Jill draws attention to Zach’s eventful week, which also includes a tiff with his co-host, Brandon.
The trio dives into the Gospel of Mark, exploring the profound moment when Jesus calls His disciples. They leave everything behind to follow Him, but do they truly understand what they’re getting into? And do we grasp what it means to follow Jesus in our own lives?
This episode delves into the true meaning of "following," which has become a reductive term in 2025. To genuinely follow is to know deeply, to be close behind, and to chase after. Jesus is inviting us into a life not defined by works but by grace—a life where we come to know Him and His love so profoundly that it shapes every aspect of our lives. In a merit-based world where we’re constantly compared and judged by our accomplishments, it’s challenging to shed that mentality as we walk with Christ.
Through personal anecdotes and theological insights, Zach, Jill, and Brandon uncover the burdens of a works-based faith and the refreshing freedom found in embracing God’s grace. Responding to His call not only brings about transformation within ourselves but also integrates us into a loving community—a community that Jesus builds within us as we embrace our role as “fishers of men.”
Tune in for a compelling discussion on grace, discipleship, and the abundant life Jesus invites us all to experience!
In this episode:
Mark 1 verses 16-20
2 Timothy 2 verse 1 -
True revival is much more than a stirring moment—it's the spark that ignites lasting transformation, fueled by a genuine movement of the Holy Spirit. In this episode, we explore how authentic revival doesn't end with an overwhelming spiritual experience; rather, that's just where it begins.
Together with Brian Rice, we unpack how revival must lead us deeper—to real discipleship, honest self-reflection, and the courage to confront our own sinfulness. Our hearts are being shaped well before any remarkable experience takes place, and this formation continues long after the initial wave of emotion has passed. Often, it's in the quiet, overlooked moments where true transformation blossoms.
Join us for an insightful conversation that invites you beyond spiritual highs toward lasting change. You'll discover the power of the Holy Spirit not only to inspire but also to sustain genuine renewal and growth. -
I can recite scripture and even exegetically preach scripture, but do I know God? In this episode, I sit down with my good friend Brian Rice to explore this deeply personal question that resonates with many of us. Brian shares his journey through a wilderness of doubt and questioning, reminding us that knowing God transcends mere theological knowledge.
We discuss the reality that anything meaningful in life—whether it’s a strong marriage, raising kids, or finding joy in our work—requires a long, slow, and often challenging journey of spiritual formation. While we’re great at sowing seeds of faith, we often struggle with the crucial incubation period necessary for real growth.
In a fast-paced culture that tries to shape us, how can we ensure we're being formed by the living God? Join us as we uncover practical insights for deepening our relationship with Jesus amid life’s chaos. This conversation is packed with vulnerability, hope, and a shared desire to know God more intimately. Don't miss it! -
The wait is over—the King has come, and His Kingdom is right here, right now. This isn’t only some distant hope or future promise; it’s a living reality unfolding before our eyes. But are we paying attention?
In this episode, we dive into the life-changing truth that Jesus isn’t just waiting for something to happen—He’s actively transforming lives, breaking chains, and calling us into something far greater than we ever imagined. The Kingdom of God is here, and He’s inviting us to step into it.
We’ll explore how belief and repentance open the door to this Kingdom, why Jesus dwelling among us changes everything, and how so many miss out on true freedom by chasing distractions that lead nowhere. This conversation will challenge you to reexamine your life, break free from destructive habits, and align with the reality of God’s Kingdom.
The world is full of noise, but only one voice matters. Will you hear it?
In this episode:
Mark 1 verses 14-15
Isaiah 52 verse 7
Luke 17 verses 120-21
matt 12 verse 28
Luke 11 verse 20
matt 4 verse 17
Exodus 34 verse 6
Hebrews 10 verse 19
2 corinthians. 3 verses 17-18
Colossians 1 verse 13 -
Going off script today because the Spirit was moving in this conversation. Today, Zach, Brandon, and Jill talk about the beauty of falling on your face before the living God in repentance.
Perhaps this is a time in history when the church needs to be asking more questions and giving fewer answers. Zach shares a personal story of trial where he felt the Lord tell him to be quiet. Sometimes silence is the loudest form of transformation through sanctification.
This conversation is both convicting and uplifting. It points to a God who is ever-present and ever-near—a God who wants to heal our land and transform our hearts.
In this episode:
2 Chronicles 7 verse 14
1 Corinthians 15 verses1-4
Mark 1 verses 14-15
John 3 verse 3
Mark 1 verse 15 -
The conversation was too rich to cut short, so the trio is back for Part 2, diving even deeper into Jesus' temptation in the wilderness. While continuing in Mark 1:12-13, they also explore Matthew’s account for a fuller picture of this pivotal moment. As they examine how Jesus wields Scripture against Satan’s lies, the discussion reveals powerful insights about identity, obedience, and the nature of true victory.
In this episode:
1 Corinthians 2 verse 1
Hebrews 1 verse 14
Matthew 4 verses 1-11
Shallow by Jill Dasher -
The trio returns to examine the Temptation of Christ in the Gospel of Mark, unpacking how Jesus combats Satan’s lies with the truth of Scripture. Brandon weaves in insights from Old Testament prophets like Isaiah, while Jill highlights how Jesus accomplishes what Adam could not. Meanwhile, Zach draws a compelling contrast between Jesus, who withstands temptation in a barren wilderness while offered everything, and Adam, who fails in a garden where he already had everything he needed.
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Mark 1 verses 12-13
Isaiah 11 verses 6-9 -
In this episode, Zach and Brandon welcome Dr. Carl Trueman from Grove City College to delve into his work on critical theory and explore the very essence of humanity. They examine whether our lives are guided by a deeper purpose, intent, and design, and ponder the significance of the Imago Dei. Throughout the conversation, the trio tackles the challenge of discerning true knowledge and concludes with practical insights on living authentically within a local community.
In this episode:
To Change All Worlds by Carl R. Trueman
The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self by Carl R. Trueman
The Desecration of Man by Carl R. Trueman
The Abolition of Man by C. S. Lewis -
We are being subtly and strategically influenced by our culture, whether we realize it or not. It's time to reclaim our lives for the kingdom. You were born to know and love God, and Satan will do anything to distract you from that purpose. In this episode, we delve into the concept of discipleship and the vital role the church must play in it.
Zach and Brandon interview Jon Tyson, a pastor from New York City, who discusses the revived hunger among believers for the transformative experiences that the Bible offers—they desire both the King and the Kingdom.
We live in a society that is radically shaping people's values and beliefs, and what occurs within the church must be stronger than the cultural influences we face. Tune in for an engaging and inspiring episode! - Show more
