Episodes
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This week, Dan and Donnie are breaking down the outcome of the 2024 election. They analyze how the results will affect the pest and lawn industries in key areas, including taxes, labor and inflation, and they emphasize the importance of focusing on business fundamentals.
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PestSure's COO Todd Burke & Board Chairman Mike Rottler, CEO of Rottler Pest Solutions in St. Louis, join the show to talk about a hot topic in the insurance market: auto insurance claims. They discuss how to think about insurance as a PMP, why auto settlements are increasing and practical things you can do to avoid a so-called 'nuclear verdict.'
Guests: Todd Burke, COO & Mike Rottler, Board Chairman, PestSure
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This week Dan and Donnie celebrate and reflect on more than four years and 200 episodes of the podcast! They cover how the podcast got started; their favorite guests, shows and topics; and the lessons they've learned from the show and implemented in their own businesses.
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On this episode, Donnie and Dan discuss the intricacies of the due diligence process in pest and lawn mergers and acquisitions. They explore the perspectives of both buyers and sellers and review the three major work streams in due diligence: legal, operational and financial.
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On this episode, Donnie and Dan walk through answers to recent questions they've received from podcast listeners. Topics include tracking your critical number, how to develop your leadership skills, the best business advice they've ever received, customer service training and more.
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With the busy season behind us, Dan and Donnie dive into the state of the market. From economic factors like inflation and interest rates to industry-specific trends, they break it all down and give you the insights you need to finish the year strong. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome Steve Durham, former owner of EnviroCon Pest in Tomball, Texas. He explains how he successfully transformed his company by moving to a recurring revenue model. Steve talks about the discipline required to get away from one-time work, move to auto billing, transition to triennial service — and ultimately exit.
Guests: Steve Durham, former owner, EnviroCon Pest Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services -
On this episode, NPMA's CEO Dominique Stumpf joins Dan and Donnie to discuss what's new at the association and what PMPs can expect from PestWorld 2024. Highlights include a nearly sold out exhibit hall, an improved first-timers experience, a new initiative called NPMA Basecamp, featuring fireside chats and opportunities for attendees to learn and engage with leaders, and more. Guest: Dominique Stumpf, CEO, National Pest Management Association Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss smart strategies pest control operators can use to fund their growth by reducing taxes. They cover tax rate basics, accelerated depreciation, the importance of tax planning and other tactics for reinvesting tax savings into your business to scale and improve the value of your business long-term.
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Trent and Amanda Ragar, owners of Natural State Pest & Lawn in Lowell, Ark., join Dan and Donnie to discuss their efforts to build a great workplace, including programs they use and activities they do to foster employee engagement. Natural State was recently named to PCT's 2024 Best Places to Work rankings in the medium employer category.
Guest: Trent & Amanda Ragar, Owners, Natural State Pest & Lawn Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services -
On this episode, Sheri Spencer Bachman shares her journey from second-generation PMP to founding her consulting firm, Pest Control Business Coach. She discusses best practices for developing salespeople, including training, role playing, tracking and more.
Guests: Sheri Spencer Bachman, Owner, Pest Control Business Coach Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services -
Pest control industry veteran Raymond Kidwell, Director of Business Development at Voice for Pest, joins the podcast to discuss AI's potential to enhance customer service and call center operations in the pest and lawn industries. He explores the benefits of AI-powered phone systems, such as call monitoring and scoring, and he addresses the limitations at this stage in the game. Guest: Raymond Kidwell, Director of Business Development, Voice for Pest Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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On this episode, Certus Pest CEO Dave Bradford joins Dan and Donnie. He shares insights on the importance of employee and customer retention, data visibility and long-term value creation. They also cover growth opportunities for Certus and the company's unique approach to evaluating branch performance.
Guest: Dave Bradford, CEO, Certus Pest Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services -
James Szojka, co-founder of Yard Dawgs in Calgary, Alberta, joins Dan and Donnie to share his experiences and strategies for using social media ads to market his lawn care company, emphasizing the importance of tracking lead sources and continuously testing and optimizing ads. He covers the difference between ads on Facebook and Instagram compared with Google, how to approach lawn care vs. pest control and much more.
Guest: James Szojka, co-founder of Yard Dawgs in Calgary, Alberta Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services -
As a pest or lawn business owner, it can be exciting to get your first call from a private equity firm. But it also raises many questions. Why are they contacting you now? How should you handle the call? Should you even take it? On this episode, Dan and Donnie answer these questions and other things to consider about partnering with private equity.
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie explore the impact of AI-powered search engines on pest and lawn businesses. They discuss the shift from optimizing for search engines to focusing on user intent, emphasizing the importance of natural language processing and conversational AI integration.
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie dive into Donnie's efforts to boil down team members' effectiveness to a single metric. Inspired by his experience as a pilot, Donnie shares how he is evaluating critical results to communicate clearly and ensure quality and excellence at Triangle Home Services.
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Description: On this episode, Dan and Donnie share eight factors that can help you create a sustainable, thriving pest or lawn business and achieve a healthy bottom line. Dan details a list of useful operational ratios and gives an accountant's view on them, while Donnie gives an operator's perspective. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie review GPT-4o — OpenAI's latest artificial intelligence model. They cover how the algorithm is different from previous models, why that matters and how you can use it in your pest or lawn business. Donnie also demonstrates how to use it for data analysis, so be sure to check out the video version of this episode at youtube.com/@pmpindustryinsiders. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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Coalmarch's Christin Nein joins the podcast to share her expertise on the always important topic of generating customer reviews. She covers why reviews matter, how to generate more reviews, how to make sure you get the right reviews and what to do if you get a negative review. Guest: Christin Nein, Sr. Director, Product Development, Coalmarch by Workwave Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services
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