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  • Conductors Chelsea Gallo and Jeremy C. discuss how we can define our mission and the impact that we have on audiences.

    Show notes at https://podiumtimepod.com/chelsea-gallo.

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  • Today we talk with Dr. Noreen Green and uncover how to build community support for our orchestras. We discuss how she built the Los Angeles Jewish Symphony into a relevant and thriving orchestra that crosses cultural barriers to reach diverse audiences and how she used creative programming and collaborations to connect with her community of audiences.

    Visit the Los Angeles Jewish Symphony at LAJS.org.

    Hidden Gems:

    Leonard Bernstein's Halil - https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=asXkGs33UnIThe Music of Eric Zeisl - https://open.spotify.com/album/1R6iDrKevX5bx9Z0aMt25j?si=GrIcp-kaSWCY4Bbw_egNjwWomen of Valor - https://open.spotify.com/album/4n27osfmvlqUaTzcEYKURQ?si=wYv19ra7Qz2AzHH7KNJsYw

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  • This is a teaser (and practice run) for my upcoming Keynote for the Internation Music Education Summit on Thursday, June 15 at 9 a.m. EST.

    When you face difficulties in your career, it's important to reconnect with your why, your impact, and your resilience to push forward and make a difference.

    Get your tickets at MusicEducationSummit.org and use the code FRIENDSOFJEREMY to get 20% off your registration.

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  • Who is the "Main Character" in your work?

    For a responsible, effective, service-based conductor, it will be your audience, your orchestra, or your community.

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  • Do you feel overwhelmed by your workload, constantly chasing deadlines, or struggling to find a balance in your daily life?

    You deserve better.

    The key to breaking free lies in mastering productivity, and I'm here to help!

    Register for free at https://jdcuebas.com/productivity

    My name is Jeremy and I am a conductor, teacher, podcaster, and productivity coach. I've spent the past 12 years learning, testing, and developing the keys to sustainable productivity, and now I'm sharing them with you!

    Join me for a free masterclass on Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 12 pm Eastern Time to learn how I founded and grew my podcast all while acing my classes in grad school, working a job, teaching students, and building my freelance career.

    Register for free at https://jdcuebas.com/productivity

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  • Conductors Chelsea Gallo and Jeremy Cuebas discuss how stories resonate with audiences and how we can transform audiences with live performances.

    Show notes at PodiumTimePod.com/Chelsea-Gallo

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  • Today, we talk about what conductors and musical leaders can do to connect with audiences and welcome new people into the concert hall.

    This is part two of our talk with Aubrey Bergauer about Building Back Audiences. Part one is about the state of the classical music industry and what changes institutions can make to help build audiences.

    Watch the full video of this interview on our Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@podiumtimepod

    Learn more about Aubrey Bergauer at AubreyBergauer.com

    01:27 - How can conductors make our concerts more accessible to newcomers?10:30 - How conductors can engage with the community14:01 - Shortcomings of music education20:47 - Advice Aubrey wishes she'd received 10 years ago23:31 - Summary and next steps for listeners26:09 - Plugs26:27 - Aubrey's Hidden Gem27:36 - Aubrey's Billboard message to all musical leaders28:22 - Outro

    Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod.

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  • Chelsea Gallo and Jeremy C. discuss what Classical Music Institutions can learn from the world of sports and for-profit companies to attract and retain audiences.

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  • If you haven't seen TĂĄr yet. Pause the podcast and go watch it!

    TĂĄr is the story of Lydia TĂĄr, Music Director of the Berlin Phil, whose life starts to spiral out of control after a series of controversial revelations.

    In this PT Chat episode, Jeremy and Luke discuss the movie, their favorite parts, and the negative messages it sends.

    Part of what makes this movie so great is the depth of research and authenticity in the classical world. The conductor John Mauceri was consulted when developing the script, and the film features lots of real playing by the Dresden Phil.


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  • Ruth Hartt is an arts marketing genie! Join us to discuss how we can fix our concerts and our marketing to be more welcoming to the outsiders that we desperately need.

    Insider audiences are too small, and we don't know how to attract classical music outsiders to our concerts. So how do we get new people to listen to classical music?

    Through "The Art of Gathering" and "Jobs to Be Done Theory," Ruth Hartt has developed principles for attracting, welcoming, and changing new audiences for the better.

    1:47 Why classical music organizations are struggling and how Ruth is helping build back audiences5:37 How “The Art of Gathering” redefines the purpose of our concerts9:45 "Jobs to be Done" Theory and its radical implications for arts marketing22:07 New marketing examples for arts organizations24:33 Why unspoken concert etiquette is anti-diversity33:28 Ego-Centric Marketing and how to fix our message42:00 What has Ruth changed her mind about?44:04 Closing: Plugs, Hidden Gem, and Billboard


    Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod. If you’re in the market for a new baton, use our promo code “PodiumTime” at Pagubatons.com for 20% off your first order.

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  • My fancy podcasting program isn't working, so I took this chance to share an overview of the basics of building back audiences.

    These are the critical mindset shifts that we NEED to embrace to reach new audiences and keep them coming back.

    Let us know what you think by sending us a message on our website, our social media, or via email at [email protected]


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  • Building audience diversity is not about PR programs, Black History Month concerts, or playing diverse composers on a few programs.

    It's about not reducing an entire population in our community to the color of their skin.

    Building audience diversity is about realizing that "diversity" is more nuanced. It's about realizing that we connect by building relationships.

    It's about not Expensive PR campaigns that attract diverse audiences to a single concert (if at all). These don't result in lasting change because diverse audiences don't feel welcome in our art form. They may know that we are having a concert, but they do not care.

    Even the fact that we refer to diverse audiences as "they" in these paragraphs makes it clear that this discussion is long overdue.

    Today, we talk with Jeri Lynne Johnson about her consulting work with DEI Arts Consulting and how they take classical music organizations through the process of understanding diversity. She shares why standard "diversity" programs aren't effective, what actually motivates diverse audiences to attend events, and how telling diverse stories in the arts is the key to equity and inclusion for the rest of our culture.

    Learn more about Jeri Lynne at JeriLynneJohnson.com, DEI Arts Consulting at DEIArtsConsulting.com, and the Black Pearl Chamber Orchestra at BlackPearlCO.org.

    00:00 Intro

    01:30 Jeri's DEI Arts Consulting practice and why diversity consulting is not about a one-time fix

    03:14 Redefining "Diversity" and what organizations, especially classical music organizations, get wrong about diversity, equity, and inclusion.

    10:22 Diversity beyond race and building relationships with your community

    18:44 Black Pearl Chamber Orchestra: how it developed from a need to engage audiences of color and change what orchestras were offering.

    23:56 The importance of diversity on the stage and the role it plays in the diversity of the audience

    27:19 Closing and Plugs



    Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. Continue the conversation in our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod.

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  • Conductor Tiffany Chang has become a force to be reckoned with; a confident, vulnerable, and inspirational force to be reckoned with.

    In part 1 of our discussion with Tiffany, we talk about leadership as the idea of taking care of those within our care, and how we can support and empower the musicians that make the music on stage.

    Learn more about Tiffany at TiffanyChang.net and on her blog at ConductorAsCEO.com

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  • Today we talk with David Taylor all about how we can attract new audiences, engage with them, and get our old audiences coming back. That all has to do with the experiences that we provide all around our concerts: before, after, and during.

    Watch the full video of this interview on our Youtube channel.

    Learn more about David Taylor at David-Taylor.org

    Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod.

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  • We are joined by THE Aubrey Bergauer to talk about why classical musicians and organizations must make big changes to survive in our new world.

    We talk about the trends in the classical music industry, why we must redefine who we think of as our audiences, how to program for audience building and retention, and how to change the concert experience to get first-time audiences to come again.

    Watch the full video of this interview on our Youtube channel.

    Learn more about Aubrey Bergauer at AubreyBergauer.com

    00:00 Intro
    00:22 Introducing Aubrey Bergauer
    01:47 Defining "Building Back Audiences
    05:00 Why 90% of Classical Music Audiences never come back
    10:16 Programming for audience retention and growth
    14:54 Upleveling concerts with visuals and stories
    23:18 Plugs
    23:42 Outro

    Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod.

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  • Hey there! We are building into our new season on "Building Back Audiences" and we want to know what questions you have that we can answer!

    Reach out to us on our website, Facebook, Instagram, or by email and let us know what you want to know about building back audiences, being relevant, and building your ensembles a solid base for the future.

    Aubrey Bergauer's Orchestra X research on the audience experience.

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  • Today we discuss: (note, timecodes may be up to two minutes off depending on pre-episode announcements)

    How Enrico came to specialize in pops and family programming (3:23)How Enrico structures a Pops season and how the Nashville Symphony competes with all the other music available in Nashville. (6:24)Enrico shares his process for creating family concerts and the goals behind them (18:07)How Symphonica productions is helping orchestras build audiences for the future (28:58)Advice on how regional, community, and educational directors can improv their pops and family programming (36:30)Enrico’s Final Advice: Don’t treat pops or family as lesser than classics (49:24)Gem and Billboard (55:40): Lucía, by Vinicio Meza

    Visit Enrico on his website, or click below to learn more about The Upbeat Podcast, Everything Conducting, and Symphonica Productions.

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  • Don't listen to this if it's your first episode of Podium Time!

    Link to the blog post I wrote in 12 minutes about this: https://jdcuebas.com/being-a-conductor-is-hard-becoming-a-conductor-is-harder/

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  • Conductor George Marriner Maull and the Discovery Orchestra are teaching audiences to...Listen to Music!

    In a time when we tend to hear music in the background, we’ve lost (or never learned) the skill of listening to music. How many of your audience members are reading the program notes or lost in thoughts about green beans? Probably most of them. Today we are learning how to teach our audience to listen.

    The unabridged episode is no longer available, but you can still visit our Patreon community

    Today we discuss:

    The origin of the Discovery Orchestra, an orchestra that exclusively performs educational concertsThe format of the Discovery Concerts and how Maestro Maull teaches audiences how to listen to classical musicHow learning to listen well through classical music enhances all the music that audiences listen toThe most effective pieces Maestro Maull has found for teaching audiences to listenMaestro Maull’s closing advice, billboard, and hidden gems

    Visit the Discovery Orchestra at DiscoveryOrchestra.org, and watch their broadcasted Discovery Concerts on Amazon Video.

    Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod.

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  • David Itkin joins us this week on Podium Time. Maestro Itkin is the Director of Orchestras at the University of North Texas, Music Director of the Abilene Philharmonic, and Conductor Laureate of the Arkansas Symphony Orchestra.

    Today we discuss the stories behind his first book, Conducting Concerti, and why it’s critical to learn how to accompany a soloist well. We also discuss the many drawbacks of focusing your study on just musicality or conducting technique. Finally, David gives us a sneak peek of his new book planned for 2022. The book features a curriculum for learning and practicing crucial conducting excerpts.


    Today we discuss:

    Why David Itkin wrote a book about Conducting Concerti, and why what we’re really good at is often what we used to be really bad at. (05:09)Navigating the psychology of preparing a concerto with the soloist and orchestra. (09:43)The most common issues that David Itkin has to fix with workshop participants, and how to be prepared to get the most out of your session with a conducting teacher and ensemble. (19:44)How the conducting program at UNT is designed to prepare a conductor to enter the professional world by including preparation for Pops and Education concerts for conducting students. (33:30)A conducting workshop between two covers: A sneak peek of David Itkin’s new book of advanced musical and technical issues in the orchestral repertoire, including a reduction of each example for use in the classroom. (42:38)Hidden Gems and Final Advice. (56:07)

    Find this and all other episodes at PodiumTimePod.com. Subscribe and download Podium Time on your favorite podcast player and connect with us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at @PodiumTimePod. You can also join our Facebook Group, the Podium Time Inner Circle to ask questions and continue the conversation after every episode. Want to send us an email? Use the contact page on our website! If you’d like to support the podcast monetarily and get bonus content, consider joining our Patreon community at Patreon.com/PodiumTimePod. If you’re in the market for a new baton, use our promo code “PodiumTime” at Pagubatons.com for 20% off your first order.

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