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Lisa Baril is a science writer who has written about natural resources and science for national parks across the southwestern United States. She holds a master’s degree from Montana State University and is a member of the National Association of Science Writers, Society of Environmental Journalists, and the Outdoor Writers Association of America.
In THE AGE OF MELT, she explores the shifting view that humans have long held of glaciers—from fear, to awe, to conquest. A unique form of science, ice-patch archeology, arose from the current climate crisis, as such discoveries could only be made at the cost of the world’s ice formations. THE AGE OF MELT takes the reader on a world tour of ice, exploring the conflicting belief systems around ice and its integral relationship to people. Melting ice has revealed so much about human culture, the environment, the past, and most importantly, our future.
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https://www.lisabaril.com/The Age of Melt: What Glaciers, Ice Mummies, and Ancient Artifacts Teach Us about Climate, Culture, and a Future without IceFind me online:
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Daniel Jaconetti is the National Sustainable Design Leader at HED, one of the oldest and largest integrated architecture and engineering design firms in the United States, with 400+ employees and annual revenues of over $100M. With nearly 20 years of experience, Daniel is committed to transforming the practice of architecture to achieve zero-carbon, resilient, healthy, and equitably built environments. He leads a team of 6 regional sustainable design leaders developing high-performance designs.
Under Daniel’s leadership, HED signed onto key climate initiatives like the 1.5°C COP26 Communiqué and the American Institute of Architects (AIA) 2030 Commitment. In 2023 he was appointed to AIA’s National Committee on the Environment (COTE) Leadership Group.
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In this episode, we dive deep into the environmental impact of our food systems with Mark Easter, a leading expert on the intersection of agriculture and climate change. His upcoming book, The Blue Plate: A Food Lover’s Guide to Climate Chaos, presents groundbreaking insights on the hidden carbon footprint embedded in the way we grow, transport, and consume our food. Join us as we uncover how a shift in agriculture could be key to addressing climate change and building a regenerative future.
Find Mark Easter's book online:
https://www.patagonia.com/product/the-blue-plate-a-food-lovers-guide-to-climate-chaos/BK910.html?dwvar_BK910_color=000https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Plate-Lovers-Guide-Climate/dp/1952338204Find me online:
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In this episode, we explore Better Place Forests, a company creating meaningful, eco-friendly alternatives to traditional cemeteries by incorporating human ashes into vibrant forest ecosystems. Gillian shares her personal journey of embracing local produce as part of her sustainability challenge and reflects on the powerful connections between community, environment, and mindful living. We also dive into other innovative, sustainable end-of-life options, like aquamation and human composting. Join us for a heartfelt conversation on honoring loved ones and creating lasting legacies that nurture the planet.
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Rob Jackson is the Chair of the Global Carbon Project, a Senior Fellow at Stanford’s Woods Institute for the Environment and Precourt Institute for Energy, and a professor of earth science at Stanford University. Through global scientific leadership and groundbreaking research, communications, and policy activities, Jackson’s work has reduced millions of tons of greenhouse gas emissions and improved human health, safety, and air and water quality.
In his new book, INTO THE CLEAR BLUE SKY: THE PATH TO RESTORING OUR ATMOSPHERE, climate scientist and chair of the Global Carbon Project Rob Jackson introduces the innovators who are doing the work: finding methods to convert atmospheric carbon dioxide into minerals, perfecting e-motorcycles, developing the world’s first fossil-free steel, and creating nutritional additives for cows to cut down on the methane they release. INTO THE CLEAR BLUE SKY finds hope in unlikely places—from Amazon wetlands to Swedish steel plants—and offers a realistic roadmap toward restoring the atmosphere to preindustrial health.
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Rob Jackson at StanfordRob Jackson's Research Homepage at Stanford The Global Carbon Project Online Into The Clear Blue Sky: The Path to Restoring Our AtmosphereFind me online:
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David Lipsky is the author of the New York Times bestsellers Absolutely American and Although of Course You End Up Becoming Yourself, the basis for the acclaimed movie The End of the Tour. He has written for The New Yorker, The New York Times, Harper’s, Rolling Stone, This American Life, All Things Considered, and New York, and is the recipient of the National Magazine Award and the GLAAD Media Award.
In THE PARROT AND THE IGLOO: Climate and the Science of Denial, now published in paperback, Lipsky explores how “anti-science” became virulent in American life—through the history of climate denial and its consequences. Climate change has become an unavoidable fact and ongoing catastrophe. The science was clear decades ago. How did so many Americans come to doubt evidence so widely accepted and compelling? It is the story of the inventors (Edison, Tesla, Westinghouse) who made our world; the scientists who bravely sounded the climate alarm; and then the hucksters, zealots, dreamers, and crackpots who lied about that science.
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The Parrot and the IglooFind me online:
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60% of Americans are choosing cremation instead of burial, and that number is rising. They want a smaller environmental footprint, as well as a memorial that reflects their values. Many families are looking for a place with a marker, where they can visit and remember. Better Place Forests is helping them achieve that goal by giving them end-of-life options that are more balanced and connected to nature. Gillian Nye is the Customer Experience Manager of Memorial Ceremonies at Better Place Forests and is here to talk about what they can do for you and your family.
Find Gillian Nye and Better Place Forests online:
https://www.betterplaceforests.com/Find me online:
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George Knight is a rewilder and, along with his wife, a co-founder of Beyond Domestication, a UK-based company specializing in nature retreats and rewilding walks. They guide people to learn about the Seven Practices through foraging, airbathing, barefoot movement, wild swimming and other natural practices. He is also a passionate trainer, connecting with individuals from various organizations across the UK and beyond.
Find George and Amber-Rose Knight and Beyond Domestication online:
www.beyond-domestication.comFind me online:
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Millions of Americans across the country live within just one mile from an orphaned oil and gas well. These abandoned wells contribute to 20-30% of methane leaks in the US, which affect drinking water, harm wildlife, ruin the land, and create flooding risks, according to experts. Curtis Shuck, Chairman of the Well Done Foundation, is doing something about this. WDF is the only national nonprofit working to plug millions of orphaned oil and gas wells across the U.S.
Find Curtis Shuck and Well Done Foundation online:
www.welldonefoundation.org/Find me online:
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Brian Falcon has always been passionate about sustainable living and design. He is a registered architect in Pennsylvania, and became a Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design Accredited Professional (LEED®AP) in 2004, to focus professionally on sustainability and energy efficiency. In 2008, he founded the Berks/Lancaster Green Building Association to help local, like-minded professionals collectively expand their green building skills at the grass roots level. Most recently, Brian has become a Certified Passive House Consultant (CPHC), as certified through the Passive House Institute US (PHIUS). This program incorporates high performance building science principles and passive house techniques to create the best path to Net Zero and Net Positive Energy buildings.
Alter Eco is a full-service design and build firm that provides architectural, construction management, and sustainable consulting services. Our approach is to seamlessly incorporate leading-edge building science to create cost effective, high-performance homes and small commercial buildings in any style. Experts in green building, our capabilities are well-rounded and include experience building to the ZERH program requirements set forth by the Department of Energy, Passive House Standards as certified through the Passive House Institute US (PHIUS), and Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) green building certification standards.
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Brian Falcon on LinkedInAlter Eco HomepageFind me online:
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I've made it past the 50 episode mark, and there are some minor changes I'd like to make to the format of the show.
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Environmental activist and renowned neuroscientist, George Paxinos has identified and named more brain areas than anyone in history and published 57 books. His atlases and concepts of brain organization are used by most scientists working on the relationship between the brain and cognition, emotion, motivation and thought, including neurologic or psychiatric diseases such as Alzheimer’s and depression.
His latest book took 21 years to develop and publish. His new book, A River Divided, is a cross between a science fiction and ecofiction novel. It follows Evelyn, a geneticist and amateur archeologist, who discovers a tomb while vacationing in Israel. Believing she has found the remains of Christ, she attempts to revive the DNA found preserved at the site so that she can clone Him. But with human cloning being both illegal and unprecedented, she takes the risk of carrying the embryo herself. Though more a scientist than a zealot, she wants to do everything to bring Him back to the world. If her experiment were successful, the consequence could be the salvation of a dying Earth.
The result of her daring discovery is the birth of identical twins Christopher and José, who are raised apart and unaware of each other's existence— one in the affluent suburbs of Sydney and the other in the slums of Buenos Aires. As different artists would sculpt different statues from the same block of marble, different environments produce different characters out of the same DNA. The twins are destined to clash, adversaries in an almighty battle for the Amazon.
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Alarmed by the surge in climate-related disasters, a growing number of Americans are asking “What can I do to help?” Lawrence MacDonald’s new book, Am I Too Old to Save the Planet? A Boomer’s Guide to Climate Action offers unexpected answers for the 70 million boomers--people born from 1946-1963--who are still America’s most powerful generation.
A former foreign correspondent and vice president of the World Resources Institute, the world’s largest environmental NGO, MacDonald tells how America's most promising generation allowed climate change to become a planetary emergency―and what to do about it now.
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Am I Too Old To Save The Planet? Lawrence MacDonald on Medium Lawrence MacDonald on TwitterFind me online:
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When ecologist Carl Safina and his wife, Patricia, took in a near-death baby owl, they expected she’d be a temporary presence. But Alfie’s feathers were not growing correctly, requiring prolonged care. As Alfie grew and gained strength, she became a part of the family. Carl and Patricia began to realize that the healing was mutual; Alfie had been braided into their world and was now pulling them into hers.
Alfie & Me: What Owls Know, What Humans Believe, by Carl Safina, Ph.D., is the story of the remarkable impact this little owl would have on their lives.
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Sara Turner, Sustainability Manager at Nexii Building Solutions is back to talk about how her challenge went that she decided to take on during our first recording.
Was she able to take the plunge? Listen in and find out!
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Nexii Homepage Sara Turner on LinkedInFind me online:
This Sustainable Life: Solve For Nature Podcast: https://anchor.fm/solvefornature Blog: https://verdantgrowth.blog/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/verdantgrowth Twitter: https://twitter.com/VerdantGrowth Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/realverdantgrowth Instagram: http://instagram.com/verdant.growth or http://instagram.com/verdantgrowthofficial--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/solvefornature/supportHosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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First, the tadpoles and frogs disappeared; then the bats and the songbirds left. Dr. Elizabeth Hilborn, a honey bee veterinarian and environmental health scientist, soon realized the bees—the vital pollinators of fruits, plants, and vegetables—were dying. Everything was still and silent. In 2017, after a large flood, most of the teeming life on her beloved family farm in North Carolina had vanished in a matter of weeks.
As a scientist and a naturalist, Hilborn set about to get answers: RESTORING EDEN: Unearthing the Agribusiness Secret That Poisoned My Farm Community (Chicago Review Press; August 8, 2023) is her story.
With her farm suddenly lifeless, Hilborn was disoriented, bereft, and determined to understand. She documented the trail of death, taking water samples, scouring the internet, and calling every environmental expert, government agency, and agricultural consultant she could find. She got her first solid clue when she learned that a neighbor's tractor had been submerged in the floodwaters.
What caused the sudden collapse of life on her farm? How was Dr. Hilborn able to unravel the mystery? Today we hear her story! Listen in!
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Dr. Elizabeth Hilborn's Homepage Restoring Eden: Unearthing the Agribusiness Secret That Poisoned My Farming CommunityFind me online:
This Sustainable Life: Solve For Nature Podcast: https://anchor.fm/solvefornature Blog: https://verdantgrowth.blog/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/verdantgrowth Twitter: https://twitter.com/VerdantGrowth Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/realverdantgrowth Instagram: http://instagram.com/verdant.growth or http://instagram.com/verdantgrowthofficial--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/solvefornature/supportHosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Following a February 10, 2022, court order, gray wolves in the contiguous 48 states and Mexico – with the exception of the Northern Rocky Mountain population – are now protected under the Endangered Species Act (ESA) and listed as threatened in Minnesota and endangered in the remaining states. After being nearly eradicated in the 1990s, the gray wolf has made an astonishing comeback in Washington state, delighting conservationists but infuriating ranchers. Eli Francovich is a journalist who covers the environment, conservation, and outdoor recreation in Washington for the Spokesman-Review, the state's second-largest newspaper.
In his new book, The Return of Wolves: An Iconic Predator’s Struggle to Survive in the American West, Francovich combines interviews, extensive research, and on-the-ground reporting to reveal the deep social and political struggles at the core of this debate over the endangered species. Ultimately, he endeavors to find a solution that will appease both parties—and perhaps mend an ever-widening division in American culture.
What can our relationship with wolves teach us about our relationship with nature as a whole? About our society? Listen to find out!
Find Eli Francovich online:
The Return of Wolves, An Iconic Predator’s Struggle to Survive in the American West Eli Francovich on Twitter The Spokesman-ReviewFind me online:
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Sara Turner is a Sustainability Analyst at Nexii Building Solutions, a company dedicated to innovating and creating breakthrough building systems that prove that planet-friendly solutions aren’t a sacrifice — they’re an improvement in every way over the status quo.Sara has been contributing to the green building industry since 2017, through previous roles that include building science engineering, energy modeling, and renewable technology analysis. At Nexii, Sara leads annual carbon accounting of the company’s operations, coordinates and tracks progress of Nexii’s sustainability commitments, and has been working to implement embodied carbon analysis into product development.
Nexii Homepage Sara Turner on LinkedIn
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This Sustainable Life: Solve For Nature Podcast: https://anchor.fm/solvefornature Blog: https://verdantgrowth.blog/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/verdantgrowth Twitter: https://twitter.com/VerdantGrowth Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/realverdantgrowth Instagram: http://instagram.com/verdant.growth or http://instagram.com/verdantgrowthofficial--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/solvefornature/supportHosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Buffy Cushman-Patz is the founder and executive director of SEEQS (School for Examining Essential Questions of Sustainability) Charter School, where students are learning to become stewards of planet Earth and healthy, effective citizens of the world. On top of standard core learning in math, science, social studies, English, and the arts, students combine concepts with project-based experiences that allow students to apply what they have learned to real-world situations.
"Everything we do at SEEQS is with the intent of trying to create the kind of community that we want to be a part of. I work at SEEQS because I love this community of students, teachers, and ʻohana and the work we're doing to try to make the world a better place for ourselves and for others."
Buffy Cushman-Patz, SEEQS's Founder, has explored teaching and learning through the lenses of theory, policy, leadership, and through first-hand experiences as a teacher in both conventional and unconventional settings. Buffy completed her EdM in School Leadership at the Harvard Graduate School of Education in May 2012 , with School Development as her concentration. She earned an M.S. in Geology and Geophysics from the University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa and a B.S. in Geology from the University of Florida.
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Tim Sperry, the CEO of Carbon Limit, is a scientist entrepreneur who has founded two climate tech companies using novel Carbon Capture & storage technologies. After losing close family members as a child to lung cancer, he developed a strong passion for protecting nature and solving global CO2 pollution. He has found early success by creating effective yet efficiently adaptable solutions to solve the biggest problems in industries ready for disruption. Most importantly, he built a strong dedicated team and a deeply rooted company culture.
After years of trial and error, Tim secured a way to capture air pollution in one of the most important infrastructure components used in construction, concrete. Tim’s award-winning technology, being recognized by The United States Military, large corporations such as Google, and publications such as Boca Magazine, can permanently trap the main culprit of global warming (CO2) inside the concrete that uses his cement mixture. Concrete Structures built with Carbon Limit’s cement will be able to actively capture CO2 pollution directly from the air and store it permanently, improving air quality & promoting a healthier environment in our cities & communities.
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This Sustainable Life: Solve For Nature Podcast: https://anchor.fm/solvefornature Blog: https://verdantgrowth.blog/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/verdantgrowth Twitter: https://twitter.com/VerdantGrowth Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/realverdantgrowth Instagram: http://instagram.com/verdant.growth or http://instagram.com/verdantgrowthofficial--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/solvefornature/supportHosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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