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  • Don and Ron Heidary have been in this particular business for over 30 years, and after listening to them explain their strategy and philosophy of CHARACTER FIRST (team culture), you will understand why. Dana is personally enthused from this conversation with a couple of this country's absolute best coaches, and Bob is cheering them, too!

    Swimming World Magazine has a couple of great articles about the Heidary brothers and team culture, character:

    "Q&A with the Heidarys": https://tinyurl.com/2eja237d

    "Build A Wining Culture": https://tinyurl.com/52ufrka6

    Email us: [email protected]

    Have you learned anything or even -enjoyed- any of these mediocre podcasts? Well, then, buy us a coffee!

    https://buymeacoffee.com/swimtalka2b

    TIMELINE for this OUTSTANDING episode:

    00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

    03:05 – Chuck Warner books

    04:25 – Introducing Ron & Don Heidary

    05:05 – Making character education work

    08:12 – Personal connections

    12:35 – From rock pile to cathedral

    16:33 – Orinda Aquatics staffing

    17:43 – Does culture match mission?

    20:52 – Eight reasons why teenagers drink

    (Link here: https://tinyurl.com/bdmjtv9x)

    22:12 – Facility

    23:20 – Feeding the program

    24:40 – Virtual Club Championships

    26:11 – Getting their start

    28:32 – Work ethic

    31:11 – Trust

    34:49 – Developing leaders & coaches

    38:02 – Self-discipline

    40:00 – Favorites

    42:05 – What’s life w/o swimming?

    45:28 – Working in some fun

    47:20 – Pressure cooker

    48:10 – Finding the right fit

    48:48 – Culture of caring

    51:38 – Wrapping it up

    52:38 – Check program notes

  • One of the most successful collegiate careers in the business! Listen in as we have an engaging conversation with University of Virginia Head Women's and Men's coach Todd DeSorbo. Besides all of the NCAA and Olympic success, did he really say, " if there was one time-frame I would go back to in my life, it would be high school. Partly because... I loved high school, but my math classes were so much fun, and then [my coach] Nikki [Rosenbluth] was so much fun and swimming ... everything that we were doing was fun and I liked it. So it was easy to work hard at it."

    Yes, he did. HIGH SCHOOL SWIMMING.

    We think you'll really enjoy this peek into the life and career of UVA and USA Olympic Head Coach Todd DeSorbo!

    Email us: [email protected]

    Episode timeline:

    00:01 - Disclaimer

    00:20 – Safety or Convenience?

    01:16 – Banter

    03:15 – Compensation

    04:13 – Introducing Todd DeSorbo

    04:51 – Splitting time?

    06:21 – Support at UVA

    09:32 – Accolades

    11:40 – Building the roster

    14:01 – The Salisbury Post

    15:00 – Contending for titles

    16:36 – Sprinter Ryan Held

    18:38 – Jaw-dropping workouts

    20:50 – The Salisbury Hornets

    22:01 – Coaching IM-ers

    24:36 – Nicky Rosenbluth

    26:46 – Numbers cruncher

    32:01 – The new ACC

    34:45 – What about the men?

    37:02 – Titles to Titleist

    40:10 – Powerhouse schedule

    41:45 – Alternate meet formats

    47:00 – Wrapping it up

    47:39 – Looking ahead

    Photo courtesy of Swimming World Magazine and Photographer Peter H. Bick

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  • From listennotes.com:

    Jeff is a swim official, former FINA starter and pastor. He has worked with big business brands including Toyota, TBS Brands and Mohawk Industries. He’s also worked with University sports from Auburn, NC State, Denison and Queens, as well as club programs like the Mason Manta Rays, TAC Titans, and NOVA.

    Email us at: [email protected]

    Contact Jeff Raker:

    https://www.levelupleadershipcoach.com/contact-us/

    Level Up Leadership on YouTube:

    https://www.youtube.com/@JARaker5

    Timeline for this episode:

    00:01 – Disclaimer

    01:22 – Water Safety PSA

    02:30 – Introducing Jeff Raker

    04:00 – Jeff’s road to Doha β€˜24

    06:46 – Level Up Leadership

    08:50 – Question for Today

    10:40 – Leaders who listen & learn

    12:33 – Now That’s a Great Question

    14:35 – L.I.S.T.E.N.

    17:44 – Questioning strategies

    21:05 – Strengths & weaknesses

    22:50 – Fragile athletes

    24:49 – Fears: Natural & Learned

    28:31 – Compass vs. Calendar

    31:35 – Rest, recovery, & reflection

    34:38 – Self-care

    38:11 – Coaches’ Academies

    42:47 – Warming up with Doc

    43:33 – Reaching out to Jeff

    47:20 – Wrapping it up

  • In this second part of two content-rich episodes with former Executive Director of the American Swimming Coaches Association, John Leonard, we dive DEEPLY into the problems and history associated with the PED doping scandal in our sport. We hear John's opinion of age-group and high school coaches (high praise indeed!), and who would be on his "Mt. Rushmore of Swimming". Extremely enlightening!

    Email us: [email protected]

    Time line for the dynamite episode:

    00:01 – Disclaimer

    01:06 – How to be a Great Swim Parent

    02:30 – Part II Preview

    02:58 – PED’s Panel

    04:59 – How to β€œgame” the system

    08:04 – David Howman

    09:00 – Phony testing schemes

    10:10 – Performance anomalies

    11:33 – Microdosing

    13:26 – Systematic failure

    14:01 – Losing faith in WADA

    15:06 – Athletics Integrity Unit

    17:48 – Dr. Lothar Kipke

    20:48 – Government-sponsored programs

    22:06 – ’96 Atlanta Games

    25:51 – From FINA to World Aquatics

    28:15 – USADA

    30:37 – FINA buying votes

    33:15 – What hasn’t changed?

    35:24 – Coaching age groupers

    38:09 – Mount Rushmore of swim coaching

    44:17 – Wrapping it up

    Music credits:

    The Whip Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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  • From 1985 to 2020, "ASCA" and "John Leonard" were unmistakably linked. As Executive Director of the American Swimming Coaches Association for 35 years, Coach Leonard has been inextricably involved with American swimming at almost every level from LTS (Learn-to-Swim) to the US National Team, from local organization to battling athletic doping on an international scale. You ought to really enjoy this first of a two-part conversation with "Mr. ASCA."

    Email us: [email protected]

    Timeline for this episode, courtesy of Button:

    00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

    01:52 – ASCA mentoring

    03:41 – Previewing Parts I & II

    04:42 – Introducing John Leonard

    05:06 – Syracuse Chargers: Zero to Powerhouse

    08:15 – Favorites

    09:28 – ASCA Executive Director

    11:35 – SwimAmerica

    15:35 – Coach-owned clubs

    17:08 – Coach certification & Walt Schlueter

    22:10 – The Suit Wars

    25:49 – Organization growth

    30:00 – …but wait! There’s more!

    30:26 – More ASCA mentoring & membership

    Music Credits:

    "Private Eye" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

    Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 License

    http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

  • Longtime president of the Wisconsin Swimming Coaches Association and the next president of NISCA, Kyle Bedalov wandered into the Swim Talk Zoom Room recently and led us through a vast wonderland of thoughts and ideas. See the timeline below for your own personal roadmap through this audio delight!

    Email us: [email protected]

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    Timeline for this above-average episode:

    00:00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

    00:02:40 – How to be a Great Swim Parent

    00:04:01 – Introducing Kyle Bedalov

    00:05:01 – Kicking off a new season

    00:07:06 – Swimming south of the border

    00:08:17 – WISCA site

    00:11:58 – Wisconsin high school poll

    00:14:24 – Just when I thought I was out…

    00:18:03 – Competing through Covid-19

    00:21:50 – Private schools into WIA

    00:23:07 – Coaching your own

    00:29:10 – Swimming at the next level

    00:35:11 – Swim lesson PSA

    00:36:40 – Social Media

    00:42:55 – A day in the life…

    00:45:35 – More social media

    00:48:17 – The Question Behind the Question

    00:51:35 – One Shot Wednesday

    00:53:15 – Chop Wood Carry Water

    00:54:32 – Future of NISCA leadership

    00:59:19 – NISCA convention plans

    01:00:36 – Archive, records, & A-A fixes

    01:02:37 – NISCA podcast w/Rowdy

    01:04:05 – Virtual awards banquet

    01:06:16 – A2B guest roster

    01:07:33 – Wrapping it up

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    Music Credits:

    [1] Hot SwingKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

    Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

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    [2] Private EyeKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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  • In 2015, the University of Florida’s Natalie Hinds was voted Freshman of the Year at the SEC Championships. That same year, she was part of the trio of Black women that swept the 100 free at the NCAA Div 1 Championships, a first-ever achievement. Five years after retiring and letting go of her Olympic dream, the 27-year-old swimmer mounted an incredible comeback, qualifying for her first Games as one of the oldest first-time American Olympic swimmers in history.

    Join Bob and Dana as they visit with this amazing woman and find out how a little girl from Midland, Texas wound up on the Olympic Awards podium in Tokyo. Incredible story!

    Email us: [email protected]

    Timeline:

    00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

    01:41 – ASCA Mentoring

    02:38 – Introducing Natalie Hinds

    03:10 – Path to Tokyo

    08:00 – Andy Korda/COM

    11:16 – Florida Gators

    14:48 – Georgia & Jack Bauerle

    18:11 – Rowdy Gaines PSA

    19:11 – Diversity & Culture

    23:20 – Getting parents on board

    26:00 – Opportunities & role models

    30:11 – Elizabeth Beisel

    32:21 – Rowdy’s enthusiasm

    34:10 – Rookie Veteran

    35:00 – Escaping to water

    37:36 – Drowning PSA

    38:32 – Murray’s Deli in Midland

    40:11 – Learn-to-Swim in schools

    45:04 – Competition & courage

    51:59 – Trials vs. Games

    56:43 – Wrapping it up

    Music Credits:

    [1] Hot Swing KevinMacLeod (incompetech.com)

    Licensed underCreative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

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    [2] Private Eye KevinMacLeod (incompetech.com)

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    Photo of Natalie Hinds courtesy Peter Bick, Swimming World Magazine

  • What started as a Kickstarter campaign more than 10 years ago has grown into an incredible business with pace clocks, scoreboards, touchpads, starting devices, timing equipment, and even COWBELLS.

    Join Bob and Dana as they have one of the most wide-ranging and fun interviews ever with SwimNerd's Nate Tschohl.

    Email us at [email protected]

    SwimNerd homepage: ⁠https://swimpractice.com/⁠

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    Episode Timeline:

    00:00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

    00:02:55 – SwimNerd Live

    00:03:43 – Introducing Nate Tschohl

    00:04:20 – Kickstarter

    00:05:02 – Social media

    00:06:26 – Inside w/Brett Hawke

    00:11:15 – OD: The Ol’ Dirty

    00:15:19 – The Big Swim Nerd

    00:17:35 – Coach Nerd

    00:19:17 – Basic Underwater Demolition School (BUDS)/SEAL

    00:28:01 – Recovery

    00:30:02 – What’s new at SwimNerd?

    00:37:00 – Splits/Times Top Secret?

    00:38:23 – Pace clock idears

    00:41:10 – Scoreboards: Not just for meets!

    00:45:09 – Needs more cowbell?

    00:45:58 – Why green numbers?

    00:48:15 – Blogging

    00:50:00 – Rare artifacts

    00:51:45 – Water safety

    00:54:17 – Keeping kids alive

    00:58:15 – Drowning Support Network

    01:00:08 – All politics is local

    01:00:52 – Plato: A man is not learned until…

    01:01:29 – Adding Capital to Young Australians

    01:02:46 – Splash Pads replacing pools?

    01:03:38 – Wrapping it up

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    Drowning Support Network

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    Music Credits:

    [1] Hot SwingKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

    Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License

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    [2] Private EyeKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)

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    Griffith University Study "Early Years Swimming, Adding Capital to Young Australians" - The findings of a four-year project by the Griffith Institute for Educational Research, Laurie Lawrence’s Kids Alive Swim Program and Swim Australia have surpassed expectations and indicate that swimming children have many advantages when starting school.

    β€œThe children were anywhere from six to 15 months ahead of the normal population when it came to cognitive skills, problem solving in mathematics, counting, language and following instructions.”

    https://kidsalive.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/2013-EYS-Final-Report-30-July-13-JM.pdf

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    BONUS! Nate recalls a quote attributed to Plato that β€œevery man is not learned until they can read, write and swim”. A quick search led us to the rationale behind that quote that β€œPlato thinks of both reading and swimming as things you learn through lessons, rather than naturally. The contrast is clear: babies learn to talk and walk on their own, but you have to teach children to read and to swim.”

    For a further look at the interesting historical discussion, please click here for β€œPlato, Privilege, and the Pool”: https://eidolon.pub/plato-privilege-and-the-pool-b631e2e96c7e

  • Coach Roy Snyder has been at the helm of the Wilson HS swim teams in Reading PA for over 60 years! Our visit with him is like strolling through a most impressive library. Join Bob and me as we are entertained and educated during this fascinating visit.

    We mentioned two external items in the podcast and promised to list them here.

    1-The one-time-only Olympic event that might have put observers to sleep faster than listening to this podcast, the PLUNGE, is covered in great depth and style here:

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240720-the-extinct-olympic-sport-that-was-the-dullest-of-all-time

    2-One of the most heartwarming Olympic commercials explored a topic we discussed with Roy, that of kids following their passions and finding their joy, and is titled simply, "It's OK." We think it's BETTER than "OK"!

    https://youtu.be/aJSZSHmMj5Y?si=iu03vLxdeAU9142X

    Email us at [email protected]

    Timeline for this episode:

    00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

    00:33 – Join ASCA

    02:26 – Abbott/Button Special

    02:42 – Introducing Roy Snyder

    03:17 – Origins of Wilson HS swimming

    05:48 – A total program

    06:39 – YMCA & HS highlights

    08:26 – Depth = Dual Strength

    09:40 – Day in the life of a WHS Bulldog

    12:00 – One-man band?

    14:00 – Aerobic wins

    16:03 – Roy’s start at Allentown HS

    17:46 – Doc Counsilman & George Breen

    19:23 – What hasn’t changed?

    21:05 – Breaststroke turns & finishes

    25:58 – AD or AD?

    30:33 – Assistant coach Alison Snyder

    32:37 – Canadian Butterfly

    33:17 – Plunge for Distance

    36:03 – A look in the rearview

    39:44 – Patience NOW!?!?

    40:12 – Kristy Kowal

    40:59 – Wrapping it up

  • Mike Murray returns for another visit on Swim Talk as he also returns to his HS alma mater, Albany (NY) Academies as head swim coach for boys and girls. Join him as he takes Bob and Dana through a wide range of topics, see the timeline below and jump on for another entertaining and informational romp!

    Listen to Mike's own podcast, "Coaches Corner", here:

    ⁠https://rss.com/podcasts/coaches-corner/⁠

    Email Swim Talk A2B at [email protected]

    Mentioned on this episode: Chuck Warner's latest book, "How To Be a Great Swim Parent", is destined to become afavorite, maybe even a classic in the swimming and youth sports community. Available SOON in both hardcopy and audiobook format at ⁠www.chuckwarnerbooks.com⁠

    Timeline for this episode:

    00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

    01:38 – ASCA membership & mentorship

    03:04 – Introducing Mike Murray

    03:42 – From Victor to Albany

    05:01 – Victor’s Burke & Wisner

    07:09 – Saratoga Sharks & more

    07:28 – Revolution at Albany Academy

    09:39 – The elusive SwimNerd

    10:11 – Building the Academy numbers

    12:45 – Pandemic aftereffects

    14:30 – Open water opportunities

    15:00 – Orlando World Clinic

    16:22 – Fitter & Faster

    16:52 – ASCA leadership & education

    19:10 – Special Forces group

    21:30 – NCSA Junior Nats

    23:10 – The move east

    23:37 – The staff of thousands

    26:31 – Work Works

    30:25 – AA facility

    31:36 – Gilbert Legaspi

    32:23 – Enjoying the work

    36:04 – Trusting the work

    37:57 – SWOLF & Quadathlon

    41:28 – Adirondack LSC

    42:02 – USRPT

    45:43 – Last 15m

    47:04 – Rebuilding

    49:22 – Chuck’s new book

  • Longtime Lubbock swim guru Trey Hayes, also a past-president of TISCA, makes a leap east to take over aquatics in the Arlington ISD. How he got started, how he became a program builder, and his goals and aspirations for his new post smack-dab between Fort Worth and Dallas.

    Email us at [email protected]

    "Beard" links mentioned on this episode:

    https://westtexasbeardco.com/

    https://dukecannon.com/

    Timeline for this incredibly adequate episode:

    00:01 – Disclaimer & Intro

    01:19 – ASCA info

    01:45 – Introducing Trey Hayes

    02:20 – Coaching philosophy

    05:41 – Balancing club & school coaching

    07:02 – Working with Penny DiPomazio

    07:48 – Lubbock via Amarillo

    08:15 – Tim Estes

    08:42 – Triathlons to swimming

    09:05 – TJ Fry

    09:39 – John Pittington & NLU

    12:40 – The right fit

    14:31 – Competing in 6A

    15:55 – Virtual Club

    18:43 – Elementary swim

    24:54 – Arlington ISD water safety

    26:25 – West Texas Beard Co.

    27:05 – AISD high schools

    28:21 – What hasn’t changed?

    30:21 – Ripping on USRPT

    33:05 – Staff cooperation

    35:11 – Late bloomers

    36:10 – Sharing athletes

    41:14 – Coaching your own

    45:04 –West Texas pride

    46:35 – Travel schedule

    48:00 – Wrapping it up

  • After getting 50 episodes "in the can" (and a few in the garbage can), we wanted to take a retrospective look at our coaching beginnings and the steps we've taken along the way, as well as looking at our coaching organizations. It's slightly less yawn-inducing than one might think. Slightly.

    Our email: [email protected] (this is NEW)

    Timeline for this soporific episode:

    00:01 – Disclaimer & Intro

    01:44 – The Jay in Needville

    01:58 – TISCA

    03:54 – Lanny Landtroop & Co.

    05:28 – TISCA: Then & Now

    10:50 – One Swim Classification to Three

    25:36 – TISCA Leadership

    29:31 – TISCA Clinic

    30:51 – TISCA Treasurer

    31:40 – Did ya hear the one about…

    32:24 – Swim Shops of the Southwest

    33:25 – Getting in a couple more digs

    34:57 – Time Out!

    35:22 – Kelcie at The Jay

    36:10 – NISCA

    37:25 – NISCA Leadership

    39:00 – NISCA Journal

    39:42 – NISCA Conference

    40:56 – High school swim/dive rules

    46:17 – NISCA at Men’s NCAA D-I Champs

    47:30 – Media Passes, Baby!

    48:06 – Abbott meets Lochte

    49:54 – The Lochte’s at TISCA

    51:10 – NISCA Membership

    52:48 – Journal revisited

    57:02 – ASCA World Clinic

    58:30 – Is there a Track track?

    58:49 – Wrapping it up

  • There are two types of announcers at major televised swim meets like NCAA Championships and US Olympic Trials: the big-time network pros in the nice upstairs booth who sit before the cameras with their play-by-play and color commentary, whose words get no immediate feedback or reaction, and then there are the solo announcers, usually on-deck with all of the attending media reps, communicating directly via the PA system with the seats in the stands, the ones whose job it is to provide more than names and numbers to the spectators on-site. Kevin Cargill is a former HS and college swimmer who has been mentioned as a possible successor to the big shoes and stellar heights reached by the late Sam Kendricks, "America's Swim Meet Announcer". Join us as we get to know this rising star in big-meet announcing!

    Email us at: [email protected]

    Timeline for this SPECTACULAR episode:

    00:01 – Disclaimer & Banter

    02:15 – The Jay in Needville

    02:40 – Introducing Kevin Cargill

    03:18 – Indy Trials highlights

    05:12 – From swimming to announcing

    10:10 – Tough Doubles

    13:05 – Time Out

    13:25 – Kelcie at The Jay

    14:15 – ’28 Los Angeles Games

    16:40 – Public Address vs. Broadcast

    21:51 – Out AFAP & Negative Splitting

    22:55 – Reagan Smith WR call

    24:14 – Omaha vs. Indy

    26:52 – Gabrielle Rose

    27:43 – Life away from the pool

    29:06 – All-Taper Team

    34:41 – Beyond the Podium

    37:44 – Tough names

    41:40 – Bloopers?

    42:32 – Trials Stories

    43:53 – Gretchen Walsh WR call

    45:27 – Simone Manuel 50 free

    47:05 – Mental health

    51:50 – The great Sam Kendricks

    53:13 – Wrapping it up

  • Mark Onstott has been extremely successful at every stop along his coaching career, but maybe none so successful as his two decades at one of the most storied public high school swimming legacies in the nation at Winnetka's (IL) New Trier High School.

    In Part 1 of our visit with Mark, we heard of his start in the sport.

    In Part 2, we pick up with his tenure at New Trier as Head Boys Coach, including NT's TWO National Championships, and the beginning years that led up to those incredible achievements.

    Email Swim Talk at [email protected]

    Episode 48 timeline:

    00:01 – Disclaimer & Part II Intro

    01:38 – The Jay in Needville

    01:58 – Texas vs. Illinois high school training

    03:33 – National Championships

    05:26 – Dual Meet & JV Highlights

    07:34 – 100 x 100’s

    10:55 – The Roller Coaster

    13:43 – Scary Larry

    14:18 – Space/Numbers Issues

    16:33 – Restore UNI Panther Men?

    19:46 – Kelcie at The Jay

    20:39 – Ted Mullin & The Hour of Power

    31:20 – What hasn’t changed in coaching?

    32:30 – Work Works & Opportunities

    34:05 – Exhibition vs. Scoring

    35:16 – Wrapping it up

  • Mark Onstott has been extremely successful at every stop along his coaching career, but maybe none so successful as his two decades at one of the most storied public high school swimming legacies in the nation at Winnetka's (IL) New Trier High School.

    In Part 1 of our visit with Mark, we hear of his start in the sport and his swimmer's journey from a young Red Cross lessons swimmer, to high school, to college, and then to his start in coaching, and all of the twists and turns a young coach could possibly encounter before winding up in charge of a boys program that ultimately won TWO Swimming World "mythical" National Championships. Quite a tale, and no one better to share it.

    Part 2 will be launched shortly as Episode 49, just as soon as we deal with Hurricane Beryl, since Bob and Dana both live in the direct Texas path of the storm!

    Email Swim Talk at [email protected]

    Episode 48 timeline:

    00:01 – Disclaimer & banter

    01:44 – Endless Pools plug

    02:30 – Introducing Mark Onstott

    02:55 – Road to the UNI Panther HOF

    09:35 – Breaking into high school coaching

    12:45 – Working the Jack Nelson camp

    13:45 – Cypress, Texas calling!

    16:10 – Brian Seifert β€œtaper”

    18:13 – Escape from CFHS

    22:04 – New Trier hiring process

    28:06 – Dynamite?

    29:20 – Dave Robertson era

    31:38 – Evanston rivalry

    36:40 – Texas vs. Illinois high school rules

    41:30 – Onstott Part II Preview

  • Former UT swimmer and now GM of famed Camp Longhorn in Burnet, Texas, Bill Robertson shares stories about his swimming career, his mom and dad, and the creation of legendary CAMP LONGHORN, one of the many creations of his father, "Tex" Robertson, the first swim coach at The University of Texas, also known as "the father of Texas swimming".

    A fascinating book about Tex, written by his grandson, is called simply "TEX: The Father of Texas Swimming", and details can be found at the end of this description.

    Bill was a sophomore on Eddie Reese's first team at Texas, and during his 3 years under Reese, the team finished at NCAAs in a tie for 21st, 2nd, and was NCAA Champions the third year. Quite a climb, and Bill shares some fascinating stories about that and a myriad of other topics.

    Sit back and have a listen!

    Timeline:

    00:00 – Disclaimer & banter

    01:40 – Introducing Camp Longhorn’s Bill Robertson

    03:18 – Swimming with Tex Robertson

    05:03 – HOF: How it started

    10:15 – HOF: How it’s going

    11:28 – Missing Sam Kendricks

    12:28 – Legendary Camp Longhorn

    14:55 – Pat Hudson Robertson

    16:53 – Coming back for more

    18:08 – Highland Lakes Challenge

    19:20 – Tex: The Father of Texas Swimming

    21:15 – The Who’s Who of swimming coaches

    22:55 – Steve Hamm

    24:37 – Dr. Steve Montgomery & Bob Leland

    25:15 – High school invites in Burnet

    26:53 – Bill Rob’s smooth freestyle

    27:52 – Carol Borgmann Robertson

    29:05 – More Camp Longhorn

    33:20 – Ninth Year Ring

    34:27 – Tex flies the staff to NCAA’s

    35:30 – Everybody’s famous at camp

    36:56 – KP = Kitchen Patrol

    39:50 – More on Pat

    41:14 – Splash Magazine & TAGS

    41:37 – Emmett Hines

    42:32 – Team building & The Mile

    44:04 – The Blob

    48:50 – Aqua-Carnivals

    51:31 – Gregory Gym to Texas Swim Center

    52:43 – Patterson to Reese

    55:43 – Great coaches & teammates

    57:47 – Chris Del Conte (CDC)

    58:28 – Reese to Bowman

    59:59 – Wrapping it up

    Links to topics mentioned:

    "TEX: The Father of Texas Swimming", is available on Amazon and in many online and brick/mortar bookstores:

    https://www.amazon.com/Tex-Father-Swimming-Ross-Lucksinger/dp/1492214922

    CAMP LONGHORN

  • Behind the scenes at TCU with the highly entertaining and successful coach of Texas Christian University for 38 years, Richard Sybesma. More discussion topics than you could shake a Navy SEAL telephone pole at! See Bob's timeline below (and the links that follow the timeline, mentioned in this eye-opening episode) for a wide-ranging chronicle of this Horned Frog mentor and cheerleader.

    Email Swim Talk A2B: [email protected]

    Timeline:

    00:00– Disclaimer & banter

    01:47– Introducing TCU’s Richard Sybesma

    02:55– Getting started Andrews, Texas

    05:23– On to Texas Tech

    07:58– Coaching start in Monahans

    09:22– TCU: Right Place/Right Time

    11:37– Sticking with the Horned Frogs

    13:15– Remembering the AIAW years

    15:25– ’96 Atlanta w/Walter Soza

    16:22– ’02 Salt Lake City torch runner

    17:05– Conference USA All-Sport COTY

    18:06– Nathan Lin signing at TCU

    19:18– Facility: Doing more with less

    20:24– Into the Big XII

    21:15– New facility on the horizon?

    22:04– It can be done: Forest Park Pool

    24:01– Fort Worth Swimming Frogs

    26:54– Balmorhea State Park Pool

    29:20– International travel & connections

    32:11– Richard’s Coaching Family Tree

    35:30– Dana’s UT assistant years

    37:52– Look like an athlete!

    38:40– Sneaking fun into the work & travel

    41:15– Altitude/Attitude

    42:45– Navy SEAL Training

    44:18– Lessons & water safety

    46:35– Retirement = Work

    48:13 – Wrapping it up

    Link to Nathan Lin YouTube video:

    https://youtu.be/5KRqeDzwNP4?si=7sjo1z7vfek2iIqb

    "Former TCU Swim Coach Richard Sybesma Teaches Underserved Kids How to Swim":

    https://fwtx.com/news/features/former-tcu-swim-coach-richard-sybesma-teaches-underserved-ki/

    "Program Helps Kids In and Out of Pool" (2015)

    https://gofrogs.com/news/2015/7/28/Program_Helps_Kids_In_and_Out_of_Pool

  • Continuing to rebuild and improve the women-only team for the Indiana State Sycamores (the "Fighting Trees"), Josh shares his story and the current state of affairs at the mighty state school in Terre Haute.

    Mentions and links:

    Indiana State Swimming

    https://gosycamores.com/sports/womens-swimming-and-diving

    Email Coach Josh Christensen

    [email protected]

    3S Super Sport Systems

    https://supersportsystems.com/

    Order Sycamore Swimming apparel HERE:

    https://shop.gosycamores.com/collections/swimming-diving

    Podcast timeline:

    00:00 – Disclaimer & banter

    01:53 – ASCA plug

    02:21 – Introducing ISU’s Josh Christensen

    02:40 – Sycamore roundball

    04:25 – Josh’s start in the sport

    06:33 – Any adjustments from D-II to D-I?

    07:48 – Missouri Valley Conference

    09:38 – Where does ISU recruit?

    11:22 – Facilities

    13:05 – Will the men’s program return?

    14:01 – Fundraising & NIL

    14:56 – Local high schools & clubs

    16:17 – Rose-Hulman brainiacs

    16:46 – Pros & Cons of men/women

    20:07 – Early season

    20:51 – Super Sport Systems (3S)

    26:00 – Building the roster

    29:33 – ISU & academics

    30:50 – Supporting the program

    34:30 – Wrapping it up

  • We visited with former UT All American and team captain Darrell Fick (UT Class of 1978) on his background, UT experience, and his coaching path from Alief ISD to First Colony, to women's coach at USC working alongside Peter Daland. Much information about the NIL and the Texas One Fund, and how YOU can help your alma mater or favorite swimming program.

    Timeline courtesy of Texas Swimming:

    00:00 – Disclaimer & limited banter

    01:48 – Eddie Reese Audiobook excerpts

    02:38 – New Chuck Warner Books Offer

    04:04 – Introducing Darrell Fick

    04:22 – Darrell’s start in swimming

    05:52 – Texas years & new pool

    07:56 – Coaching start in Alief

    09:00 – First Colony

    10:50 – Love of the sport

    11:55 – Texas Senior Circuit

    14:50 – NIL & Texas One Fund

    19:59 – Agent involvement

    22:48 – NIL in high school

    26:34 – Coaching Deals

    27:23 – Athlete Deals

    28:10 – Swim Center bulkhead

    29:23 –Texas One Fund & rule changes

    31:22 – Branding & Open Doors

    33:30 – Swimnerd pace clocks

    34:23 – HOKA shoes

    36:26 – Katy Tigers & summer leagues

    37:31 – Eddie’s successor?

    38:20 – Working around schedules

    39:25 – NIL compliance

    40:42 – Moving to the SEC

    42:32 – Conference meet emphasis

    44:44 – NCAA Portal & free agency

    46:22 – RIP NCAA?

    48:55 – Getting the 400 IM home

    50:51 – Wrapping it up

    51:19 – Support your school’s fund

  • Jennifer LaMont became ASCA CEO in 2021, swam her HS years in Ohio for Walnut Hills HS, and club at the Cincinnati Marlins under Denny Pursley (a former guest on SwimTalk) and Frank Busch before heading west to become a USC Trojan. She was a HS state champion at WHHS, and a collegiate All American at USC. Her leadership at ASCA is taking the coaching organization in new and expanded directions, and we think to great heights. You WILL enjoy this visit with Jennifer LaMont!