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Sara welcomes the great and wonderful Tory, best known for their reliably insightful analysis of fanfiction on the Retro Fanfic Retrospective podcast (found wherever you get your podcasts!) Tory shares their lifelong love affair with the legendary band U2, and their knowledge of the band’s history and music. Tory also digs into the amazing feat of how the band’s joyful, sublime chemistry seeps into the very music they produce, sustaining fruitful artistry for nearly fifty years.
Other topics include: Irish history, and the Christianity of U2, along with comparisons with Oasis. We also talk Bedge and RPF! And we dig into a mini-RFR discussion of likeamadonna’s Bono/Edge fanfiction within a fanfiction, “Fictitious Characters”.
Contact and Credits:
Intro Theme: Kyle Laurin "Oasis Supersonic Theme" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Clip used - Noel Gallagher on The Late Late Show | RTÉ One Outro clip - “Beautiful Day” by U2, from the album ‘All That You Can't Leave Behind’ - pulled from Youtube licensed via UMG (on behalf of Universal-Island Records Ltd. ℗ An Island Records recording; ℗ 2000 Island Records LimitedTumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected]Time caps:
00:00 - Introduction06:03 - Start of episode16:02 - Tory’s music background24:25 - U2 in bloom right now!35:06 - A little Irish history 45:19 - The Troubles, a climate for the formation of U256:03 - U2’s Bigness, America, and ‘What is Bono??’ 01:02:45 - Bono’s useful celebrity, vs individualism of Oasis. Or, “do-gooders” vs “do-badders”01:08:22 - Bono the Energizer Bunny, and U2 in Vegas01:13:07 - The other members of U2 (Larry, The Edge, and Adam)01:20:35 - Christianity and U201:31:45 - Religion, U2 vs. Oasis01:34:50 - Religious imagery in the Achtung Baby-era, and Bono’s ‘characters’01:41:42 - U2 fanfiction and RPF fandom01:51:20 - “Fictitious Characters”, by likeamadonna02:02:26 - Fitting Ali into the Bono/Edge02:07:20 - Start of Rapid Fire! (which lasts nearly an hour, lol)02:12:27 - Tory’s Top 5 U2 TracksEpisode ReferencesU2 Fanfiction.com (Tory mentions they used to read fanfiction from this now defunct archive; link via Wayback Machine) The Retro Fanfic Retrospective podcast (Podbean, you can also search for it on Spotify or Apple Podcasts)Link - Band bio, from threechordsandthetruth.net great U2 overview and biographyU2: The Origins Of The Biggest Band Of The Early 2000s a decent youtube documentary on U2A live performance of ‘Until The End Of The World’ from ‘Achtung Baby’, filmed during the US leg of the Zoo TV tour in 1992. Kiss for the camera at 2m34s -
Summary:
Sara takes (kind of sort of) a break from talking fanfic and bandfic to talk about a different form of storytelling– music, and writing about music! shineswithyou is a familiar face around Oasis and U2 tumblr, but what you might NOT know is that she has recently embarked on a writing journey of her own, with a substack blog about music and its place as the soundtrack of her own life.
Sara and shines talk about her blog, and the difficulty of “writing words about sounds”; how music is a language in and of itself capable of telling its own (and our own) stories.
Of COURSE we loop it back around to fanfiction and RPF (or, ‘real person fanfiction’), and how bandfic is, at its core, a pure form of love for the musical artist. Other talking points include: how awesome Bono is, and how we wish we could have been at Slane Castle in 2001; the perennial dysfunction of the Gallagher brothers; and the dichotomy of the U2 and Oasis fandoms.
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Theme Music: Kyle Laurin "Oasis Supersonic Theme" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Clips from "Pop Muzik" by M (℗ 1979 Robin Scott Limited) and "Marquee Moon" by Television (℗ 1977 Elektra/Asylum)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected]Time caps:
00:00 - Introduction14:52 - Interview start23:07 - Music memories and growing up30:40 - Tumblr and bandom34:27 - the pf+hb blog!39:32 - Blog entry 1 44:40 - Tom Verlaine and Television46:50 - Excerpt of blog entry 448:56 - shines’ music writing style and influences, and the difficulties of writing about music57:15 - Art in the time of Covid and intentional listening01:10:56 - More on Television’s style and ‘Marquee Moon’01:22:22 - CBGB’s and ‘the scene’01:28:29 - Music mags!01:32:05 - Speaking of U2…01:36:55 - The dichotomy of the U2 fandom vs Oasis fandom01:43:01 - Rapid Fire Questions!Episode References
“Pf+Hb” shineswithyou’s substack blog Shineswithyou on Tumblr Music vid for The Stone Roses’ “She Bangs the Drums” (title inspiration for the blog)M - Pop Muzik (Official Video) (Youtube) Book - "Heartbeat" by Sharon Creech (Goodreads) - a children’s coming-of-age story told in free verseMusic writing rec - Words by Liz Barker - Website of professional music writer and blogger Liz BarkerMusic writing rec - "Strawberry Fields Whatever" - Music blog by Liz Barker and Laura Jane Faulds and illustrated by Jen May Music writing rec - Liz Barker's tinyletter and an excerpt from her novel Blog rec - Hanif Kureishi’s substack and a piece he wrote which shines recommends Album - Nirvana MTV Unplugged (Spotify)Album - The Velvet Underground & Nico (Spotify)Trouser Press - “The biblio of alternative rock”"The Too-Muchness of Bono" by David Brooks for the AtlanticAchtoon Baby - U2 music blog project by Kelly and PJFic mentioned - "The Passing of Peggy Gallagher" by Jeevey Fic mentioned - “Stop the Clocks” by savageandwise Youtube Clip from “My Beautiful Laundrette” (1985, starring Gordon Warnecke and Daniel-Day Lewis, screenplay by Hanif Kureshi. You can stream it on HBOMax)Film Trailer for “CBGB” (2013) starring Alan RickmanBook - Meet Me in the Bathroom: Rebirth and Rock and Roll in New York City 2001-2011 (Goodreads)Documentary - Meet Me In The Bathroom (2022) - Youtube trailer stream on Paramount+ or rent on Amazon Prime Video Documentary - "Gimme Shelter" (1970) - “A harrowing documentary of the Stones' 1969 tour, with much of the focus on the tragic concert at Altamont.”Music Video - “Dark Sunglasses” a single off of Chrissie Hynde’s 2014 album ‘Stockholm’. The album doesn’t appear to be on streaming platforms.Youtube - Where The Streets Have No Name (Live From Slane Castle, Ireland (2001) (you can see the heart-shaped stage that shines mentions really well at about 58 seconds!)Shines’ Desert Island Discs: “Achtung Baby” by U2 (but on another day it might be “Viva La Vida or Death and All His Friends” by ColdplayShines is listening to: “Lucifer On the Sofa” by Spoon (album, 2022) Shines is listening to: “Wet Leg” (self-title debut album, 2022)Music Discovery - Paul Gallagher's MixCloud channel (Sara rec, Paul does a weekly playlist with tons of great and lesser known artists. You can listen for free and there’s no ads, but to get the tracklist you have to be a paid subscriber)Justin Hawkins Rides Again (Youtube channel, and he has a new podcast)Music Discovery - Shines recommends finding your local independent radio station with real human DJs! You can google, and most colleges have student run stations, and TuneIn is a site that has a “find a local station” feature you can try out!Fic Rec - “cheaper than a dime” by harmonising (Beatles RPF, George & Paul gen) - Shines says it’s a “beautiful, angsty study of Paul and George’s relationship, written in a choppy, time-jump style”Fic Rec - “Dare, Disturb the Universe” by Trapelo_Road475 (ao3, Bruce/Steve)Fic Rec - “Wharf Rats on the Stage” by Trapelo_Road475 (ao3, Bruce/Steve)Fic Rec - “Fictitious Characters” and “You Wanted Me Alone” by likeamadonna. Shines says: “gorgeously written and very meta - an alternative history of U2’s early days framed by Bono & Edge’s relationship, & written by them.” -
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Summary:
Sara sits down with the amazing, sublime, talented Jeevey, a legend in the Oasis RPF and Gcest world. Jeevey talks about the challenges of finding time to express yourself amid real life responsibilities; telling the truth through amateur writing; the joys of RPF and her start in the U2 fandom; rejecting the shame of writing taboo topics, and why she likes writing about interesting, compelling characters versus ‘unproblematic’ more acceptable figures (BORING!)
Jeevey is also a fandom expert on Noel Gallagher’s pre-Oasis career as a roadie for the Inspiral Carpets, and his friendship (ahem) relationship, with the now legendary Mancunian Clint Boon. Jeevey chronicles a Clint/Noel romance in her beautiful ongoing work, “Transistor”.
We also mention Jeevey’s recent trip to the UK to see both Gallagher brothers in concert; a highlight of which was Jeevey’s front row view of High Flying Birds’ guitarist Gem Archer’s rather, er, overwhelming and impressive physical presents. PRESENCE, I mean!
Yes, Sara brings you another 3 hour episode, but c’mon. You know. What else you doin’ today, rasta?! Don’t Go Away, Stand By Me! Some Might Say that we’re gonna Live Forever through our incestuous bandfic obsession! D’You Know What I Mean?
Time Caps
0m - Introduction12:23 - Interview starts. Jeevey talks early writing and how she got into the RPF fandoms.22:00 - Jeevey on how listening to Noel’s solo material funneled her into the Oasis fic and gcest fandoms. Baby’s first gcest fic! 32:00 - “I don’t want to bring up the Loch Lomond kiss already, but…” aka “collective mainstream fan cognitive dissonance” aka “WOW just LOOK AT THAT SETLIST!”37:00 - Sara asks Jeevey if she has a favorite brother to write. Complicated!Noel and Scary!Liam 49:22 - “The Passing of Peggy Gallagher”57:45 - “Broken Arrow River”1:39:17 - Let’s talk about Clint Boon! And getting into “Transistor”1:54:35 - Digging more into “Transistor”2:08:19 - Exploring and researching LGBTQ culture and subcultures in the UK in the 1980s (Lesbians, punks, Section 28, the AIDS crisis, etc)2:32:40 - Rapid Fire Questions!2:43:30 - Jeevey on seeing Noel and Liam live in the UK in 2022!2:49:45 - Jeevey on Gem Archer’s overwhelming physical beauty2:59:26 - Last question. What does fanfiction (and RPF) mean to you?Episode References
Work - "The Passing of Peggy Gallagher" by Jeevey Work - "Broken Arrow River" by Jeevey Work - "Transistor" by Jeevey Fanlore article on the U2 banfic website loveisblindness.net (now down). It’s sister LJ community was “U2 Slash” has been ported over to U2 Slash on DreamwidthRec - "Close" by likeamadonna (U2 fic, Bono/Edge, c2002) Rec - "Fetish" by likeamadonna (Bono/Edge) started in 2002, then went on hiatus for 14 years until the author finished it in 2016! Incredible!!Resource - “Gallaghercest, a Primer” by Snickfic (LiveJournal) Resource - “Mad for Our Kid” quote archive Resource - Oasis Interviews Blogspot Fic Archive - “Mad for Our Kid” LJ CommunityFic - "Whatever I Choose" by Jeevey baby’s first gcest fic!Twitter post from "Mainly Oasis" on the anniversary of Oasis at Loch Lomond. Aka, "WOW What a Setlist, that!" Or, "Collective Fandom Cognitive Dissonance re: brothers kissing." “I AM DISTURBANCE” GQ Interview, Feb 1998 (Oasis Interviews Blogspot)Fic Rec - "Hawkmoon" the U2 cowboy fic - Index of entries on LivejournalYoutube - Liam singing "Once" and looking GODLIKE at MTV Unplugged (Hull City Hall, 2019) Influence - Youtube - trailer for “Silent Tongue” the River Phoenix film we mention that was an aesthetic and tonal influence on Jeevey’s “Broken Arrow River”Influence - Ford Madox Ford’s “Parade’s End” (Goodreads)Influence - Robert Duvall’s film “The Apostle” (1997) trailerClint & Noel in Bed - "Aw, look at us." (Jeevey tumblr post with XFM clip, 2006) 1993 Inspiral Carpets Interview (a good example of Clint Boon manspreading and dominating the interview, and Tom Hingley the singer and frontman quietly holding the mic for Clint)Resource - “Meet the lesbian punks who've been written out of London's history” (Time Out, April 2017) article jeevey linked on tumblr for context on UK queer culture in the 80sGcesty tune - “Take Me” by Oasis (1992 demo remastered by a fan in 2021) and lyricsFic Rec - “Stop the Clocks” by savageandwise (Liam/Noel present day)Fic Rec - time's slipping away (and what will it hold for me?) by mansgotalimit (young!Liam and present day!Noel, WIP)Fic Rec - "The Swing of the Planets in Orbit" and its sequel "Memories in Your Lungs Like Air" by Snickfic (Liam/Noel ABO AU series)Contact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "Oasis Supersonic Theme" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
Are ye mad fer it?! In episode 303 Sara and Laura crack open a lager and spend three hours indulging in their most problematic (or NOT) obsession yet– The Gallagher Brothers of Oasis! RPF, or ‘real person fiction’ is fanfiction based on the lives of real people. We figure, if you’re gonna get into RPF, you ‘might as well do the white line’ and in true rock’n’roll lifestyle Slide Away into the nitty gritty of one of the most complicated, fascinating, beautiful, ugly, loving, brutal, intense relationships maybe ever. D' You Know What I Mean?
Gcest fans, this is for you. Turn your light on, take the shame out of your bread, sit back and enjoy!
PS. Even in three hours we didn’t get to everything! If you’re interested in more gcest fic, we’ve got our recs listed below, and do check out Snickfic’s Gcest Primer, and the Livejournal communities “MFOK” community and quote archive.
PPS. Spotify Playlist of our Top Oasis and Gallagher Bros. solo tracks!
Timecaps!
0m - Episode Intro4m - Cold open. Laura is forced to name all the Oasis and Gallagher solo studio albums in order10m - HOW WE GOT HERE (RPF?! Incest?! On arrive à la problématique)25m - IRL Timeline Walkthrough, “Who are the Gallagher Brothers?”1h33m - The fanfiction! RPF, gcest, and our recs!2h03 - The music and our Toppermost of the Poppermost of Oasis, Liam Gallagher, and Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds.Episode References
Documentary on Oasis, “Supersonic” (2016) [Prime] [Official Trailer]Documentary on Liam, “As You Were” (2019) [Prime] [Official Trailer]Oasis on MTV Most Wanted (18th August 1994) - “Whatever” and “Live Forever” (Liam looking ethereally beautiful, music starts 1m40s)Tumblr post ft. pics of the amazing and infamous 'Loch Lomond Kiss' “Gallaghercest, a Primer” by Snickfic (LJ)“Mad for Our Kid” quote archive https://mfokquotearchiv.livejournal.com/ “Mad for Our Kid” LJ https://mfokquotearchiv.livejournal.com/ Oasis and Gallagher Brother Timeline (public Google Doc we made)BE on Spotify (our fave Beady Eye album)2015 Youtube video of Liam in an Irish pub playing early versions of ‘Bold’ and ‘When I’m In Need’Liam Gallagher - “Once” Music Video ft. Eric Cantona, and Butler!LiamLiam Gallagher - "One of Us" Music Video or, “I miss my brother, here is my heart on my sleeve.” Try not to cry! Beady Eye - “Ballroom Figured” acoustic studio. Liam’s voice is raw but beautiful here. Lovely.Liam Gallagher - "Greedy Soul" Live at Air Studios BIBLICALLiam Gallagher - "All You're Dreaming Of" Live on Jonathan Ross CELESTIALLiam Gallagher - "Gone" MTV Unplugged MAJESTICALNoel Gallagher’s HFB - “Holy Mountain” music video (aka Hot Daddy NG in his tiny trousers) Noel Gallagher’s HFB - "Dead in the Water" Live at The Late Late Show RTÉ OneContact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "Oasis Supersonic Theme" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected]Fic Recs (3-5)
Sara’s Recstime's slipping away (and what will it hold for me?) by mansgotalimit (young!Liam appears in older!Noel’s world. WIP. )“A Lot Like Gravity”, by RedheadAmongWolves (Superhero AU, SO!MUCH!FUN!)"Let Me Be the One" by Savageandwise (angsty with happy ending, psychological excavation, amazing!!)"don't you know you're life itself?" by liamnoel (early days, romantic, surreal, stylistic)"Candy Floss Heart" by Jeevey (lovely present day, Sonny meets Liam at the zoo)Laura’s Recs“Canter”, by cancellable (early days, short drabble, pretty, that one incredible line!)“Trying to Find a World That’s Been and Gone” by storyshark2005, (Reconciliation, Sara’s Coma trope fic)“Razorblade” by Jeevey (sexy, early days pre-band, rawr)“you and I are gonna live forever” by StripySock, (sexy, first kiss, beautifully and sharply written, early days band) Filmstar (orphaned, A/N reads: "This was written by lonelyisourlife @ livejournal in 2014" FILMSTAR!!!! WE FORGOT TO TALK ABOUT FILMSTAR!! READ THIS FIC!! In our opinion, one of the best fics in the fandom.Music Recs
Spotify Playlist of our Top Oasis and Gallagher Bros. solo tracks!
Sara’s FavesOasis: Slide Away / Don’t Look Back in Anger / Supersonic LG Solo: “Once” / “Diamond in the Dark” / “When I’m in Need”NG Solo: “If I Had a Gun” / “Dying of the Light” / “Holy Mountain”Laura’s FavesOasis: Talk Tonight / Cast No Shadow / Don’t Go Away / Stop Crying Your Heart Out / Songbird LG Solo: Ballroom Figured (BE) / All You’re Dreaming of / GoneNG Solo: Dead in the Water / Black Star Dancing / Alone on the Rope -
Talkin’ Fanfic
Episode No. - 302
Episode Title - Interview with phyn, aka RedHead
Summary:
Yet another incredible treat for the ColdFlash fans! On this episode of Talkin’ Fanfic, Sara sits down with phynali, better known in ColdFlash circles as (the one, the only!) RedHead. RedHead has authored two of the top five kudos’d works under the ColdFlash tag on Ao3, and their work is commonly counted as some of the most seminal in the fandom. Sara and phyn dig into three of RedHead’s works: “Tumbling Together”, “An All Too Jagged Snowflake”, and “Got A Melancholic Temperament (that’s what they said to me)”.
Sara and phyn talk about the joys and collaborative nature of the ColdFlash community, (“Hi, Aunt Crimson!”), the challenge of balancing a PhD thesis with fanfiction obligations, how juggling multiple (and very different) stories can actually help overcome writer’s block, and also touch on phyn’s work under the pseud “dyed_red”, where they publish Supernatural works of a very different (darker, stylistic, minimalistic) nature and atmosphere, and the challenge therein of dipping a toe into a new fandom.
Bulletin Items
“LEGENDS: A 2022 Clex Zine launched”. Available at https://legendszine.com/ digitally and as a PDF“Talkville” a Smallville recap podcast, coming July 13th. At least one episode will feature Zach from “Always Hold Onto Smallville”Episode References
"Tumbling Together" by RedHead (Barry/Len, neighbors AU)"An All Too Jagged Snowflake" by Redhead (Barry/Len, Soulmates AU)"Got A Melancholic Temperament (that's what they said to me)" by RedHead (Barry/Len, deaged!Len)Collab - “Len & Barry Ship It” collaborative group collection (ColdFlash)An old fave: "Getting the Hang of Thursdays" by Hayseed (Snape/Hermione timeloop)A dyed_red fic: "Squint into the Sunset | Glare into the Gloaming" by dyed_red (Wincest)Phyn rec, author - nigeltde (Wincest)Phyn rec - "A man with his insides out and his outsides off" by britomart_is (Wincest, time travel) Phyn rec - "Wire Inside Me" by merle_p (Wincest, mpreg) Phyn rec - elsi’s Bookmarks (elsi was interviewed in Talkin’ Fanfic: Episode 209)Phyn rec, author - bealeciphers (ColdFlash)Phyn rec - "Rogue Z" by bealeciphers (ColdFlash, Zombie AU)Phyn rec, author - Crimson1 (ColdFlash, interviewed in Talkin’ Fanfic: Episode 301) Phyn rec, author - DoreyG (ColdFlash, some of the earliest ColdFlash stories)Phy rec - “Lesser Evils” by tipsybluetips (the first ColdFlash story on Ao3! comics!ColdFlash) Phyn rec - “Things I Cannot Control and Do Not Admire” by n_a_feathers (ColdFlash, part of the “Things” series) Phyn rec - “A Week on Rogue’s Mountain” by Chichirinoda (ColdFlash auction AU. phyn “loves this fic” -
Talkin’ Fanfic
Episode No. - 301
Episode Title - Interview with Crimson1, professional author Amanda Meuwissen
In Talkin’ Fanfic’s third season opener, Sara sits down with professionally published author Amanda Meuwissen, who has openly and proudly published fanfiction on both ff.net and Ao3 for decades, as Crimson1 ! Sara and Amanda discuss how Amanda’s introduction to popular fiction (via, ironically, Anne Rice novels) almost immediately funneled her into the world of fanfiction reading and writing, and how a Dean/OMC fic she wrote during the early seasons of Supernatural quickly rocketed in popularity (it is still, staggeringly, the #7 most reviewed Supernatural of all time on fanfiction.net, out of some 121 thousand) and served as the first project she would “flip” into a published original work.
Sara and Amanda talk about two of her ColdFlash fics from the CW’s Flash fandom, her love of the characters of Barry Allen and Leonard Snart, and why in many ways, the ColdFlash fandom writes the characters better than the show itself.
They also express a random common love for a Wellingbaum RPF coffee shop AU, Wentworth Miller’s hands, the surprising awesomeness of “Legends of Tomorrow” and Amanda gives listeners some tips and tricks on how best to break into publishing in the original fiction world!
Episode References
Author Page - Crimson1 on Fanfic.net Author Page - Crimson1 on Ao3 Fic - "Incubus" by Crimson1 (SPN, Dean/OMC on ff.net) Note: This is the #7 most reviewed SPN fic on ff.net (out of 121k some fics. whoa.) Featured Fic - “Timeless” by Crimson1 (ColdFlash) on Ao3Featured Fic - “Lovesick” by Crimson1 (ColdFlash) on Ao3 Tumblr Post - Crimson’s bound copy of “Timeless”Fic Rec - "You Keep Me High" by toomuchplor (Michael Rosenbaum/Tom Welling RPF coffee shop AU)Crimson1 Rec - “Earth Boys Are Easy” by Rose Emily (toomuchplor)Crimson1 Rec - “Tumbling Together” by RedHead (roommates ColdFlash)Crimson1 Rec - “Got A Melancholic Temperament (that’s what they said to me)” by RedHead (deaged!Len ColdFlash) Author Rec - LiselleVelvetAuthor Rec - TheRedHarlequinCollab - “In the Wrong Kind of Light” with sugarybowl (ColdFlash)Collab - “Len & Barry Ship It” collaborative group collection (ColdFlash)Collab - “My Father the Supervillain” (tumblr collab series ft. Michael Snart)Crimson is Reading: “Sucker for Love” series by K.L. Hiers (M/M Mystery Romance)Amanda Original Fiction Resources:Amanda Meuwissen Official WebsitePrivate Facebook Group “Amanda Meuwissen Books” A few niche publication houses: Dreamspinner Press ; JMS Books ; Stormy Night Publications ; Harlequin“The Case of the Boy in Blue” by Amanda Meuwissen (audiobook also available!)Contact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "Oasis Supersonic Theme" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
A literal throw-back! Recorded in February 2022, Sara didn't get around to editing and posting until September 2022.
In this belated Season 2 closer, Sara and Laura discuss (after some updates on recent ColdFlash and Gallaghercest obsessions) a commonly forgotten or misunderstood Archive Warning: the "Choose Not to Warn" tag. They discuss the purpose of CNTW in context of and along with a phenomenally written story, "The Operative Word" by road_rhythm, in which Sam Winchester weighs the meaning of life, death, and the existence of Free Will itself.
Do fanfiction authors have the option to choose their own endings? Do fanfiction readers have the resources to filter out what they do and do not want to read?? The option on all fronts is a resounding YES, and the Talkin' Fanfic gals break it all down, as well dig into the strong audience reaction elicited by road_rhythm's fearless work of near-metafiction.
NOTE: Ironically in order to listen to this episode we are requiring you to first read "The Operative Word". You do not have a choice in this matter!! (Kidding but seriously)--> https://archiveofourown.org/works/21833437
Episode References
Descender by Dustin Nguyen (the framed artwork we’re babbling about at the start of the episode. Dustin also illustrates Batman and other comic books for DC Comics)See episodes 301 and 302 for all things ColdFlash and ColdFlash recs!Sinners Reconciled by blue_wanderer (the specific ColdFlash rec Sara mentions)“Now and Then” by Elise_51 (Laura’s Tim/Damian WIP, DC Comics)"Gallaghercest: A Primer" by Snickfic (we'll speak of this in depth in Episode 303)"Love in the Time of Corona" Gallaghercest series collab by Jeevey and Savageandwise Work - "The Operative Word" by road_rhythmWork - "Here be Dragons" (discussion of archive warnings) by road_rhythmFancake Rec Community (Dreamwidth) Fancake Rec Entry for "The Operative Word" (Dreamwidth) Ao3 Tutorial: Posting a Work on Ao3 (descripton of Archive Warnings)Contact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "In the Air Tonight" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
Talkin’ Fanfic
Episode No. - 209
Episode Title - Interview with elsi
Sara sits down to talk with elsi, aka Prince_of_Elsinore, an incredibly talented author who has spent many thousands of words exploring the heart of the relationship between the characters of Dean and Sam Winchester from Supernatural. Sara and elsi cover the show itself (that finale!) and discuss three of elsi’s works centered around Sam and Dean over the course of their lives together.
elsi speaks in depth about the differences between gencest and Wincest, and the thin and not-so-thin lines that form the fascinating gradient between. elsi explains their love for this “ultimate ship” and why the heart of a good Wincest fic treats “problematic” aspects of the ship directly, in a way that feels honest, unafraid, and faithful to Sam and Dean themselves as characters.
Other topics include: writing style, “Id fic”, letting subtext tell the story and do the heavy lifting, and how elsi’s experience in fanfiction has informed and differed from their professional, original writing experiences, and why fanfiction isn’t just “the minor leagues” of the publishing writing world, but an artistic pursuit entirely of its own.
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Talkin’ Fanfic will be LIVE with The Fanfic Maverick Podcast at PLANET COMICCON in Kansas City! Saturday April 23rd at 1pm. See website for tickets, schedule, etc. Let us know if you’re coming!Episode References
Work - “Baton Rouge” by elsiWork - “Understand the Undernetting” by elsiWork - “December, Sutter County” by elsielsi’s ‘deserted island’ book - Poetry by Wisława Szymborskaelsi is reading - "CivilWarLand in Bad Decline" by George Saunderselsi is reading - "Nonrequired Reading" by Wisława Szymborska Ao3 Collection - “Wanted Man” Challenge elsi rec - author: nigeltdeelsi rec - author: deadlybride elsi rec -author: damnablebell elsi rec -author: flesh, aka fleshflutterelsi rec -author: Edwardina elsi rec - "Carry Me Over the Sky" by killabeez (SPN Wincest)elsi rec - "Splinters" by Morgan (SPN horror western) elsi rec - "Squint into the Sunset | Glare into the Gloaming" by Dyed_Red elsi rec - “I’ve Got A Hand For You” by EdwardinaContact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "In the Air Tonight" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] Reading excerpt music: “Pensive Mood Guitar and Cello” by Musictown (pixabay) -
Talkin’ Fanfic
Episode No. - 208
Episode Title - Interview with museaway
Sara sits down with long-time multi-fandom author and community organizer MUSEAWAY, where they discuss three of muse’s works in Smallville, Supernatural, and the Alternate Original Series Star Trek fandoms. Topics include:
Their love of the edenic, the singular! old school Smallville fandom The difference to an outsider, between what Supernatural looks like from tumblr gif sets vs what it looks like watching the show (VERY. DIFFERENT.)How to write Destiel without writing over SamCase fic!The joys of “discovery moments” , and the messiness of exploratory writingthe “DESERT HOOKER PHOTOSHOOT”! (say ‘thank you 2013 Star Trek fandom)Muse also waxes poetic over the gift economy of fanfiction, and how fanfiction breaks down traditional publishing industry barriers between authors and the readers who will find and appreciate their contributions to the fandom, and generally the unique joys of fandom.
We also discuss muse’s fandom community involvement, including the #ficwip, a twitter event that has morphed into a multi-fandom writer’s community.
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The Karate Club Zine is now open for Pre-Order! The 2020 Clex Zine is now LEGENDS: A 2022 Clex Zine. Applications for fic writers and artists are NOW OPEN through December!If you worked on any of the original CLFF “Clex Fest” round and could give museaway permission to work with Ao3 to archive those works, please get in touch!!Episode References
Museaway on ao3, twitter, and the hellsiteWork - "Play Forgiveness" by museaway (Smallville, Clark/Lex)Work - "Entering Orbit" by museaway (Star Trek AOS, Kirk/Spock) Work - "Superior" by museaway (SPN, Dean/Cas atmospheric case fic)Work -"Le Nouveau" by museaway (SPN crossover, Dean/Case case fic) Work -"The Walls Between Us" (Star Trek AOS, Kirk/Spock, mind-melding through hand contact!) Google Image Search Results - “desert hooker photoshoot” (peak 2013 Star Trek fandom)Fanlore article on ontd_startrek, a livejournal community that popularized the term GQMFer, or "GQ Motherfucker" (one of Sara’s Trek fandom memories) "flowers by the roadside" by museaway (Voltron post-finale, Keith/Lance, written for #theficthathauntsyou )T'hy'la Bang - Tumblr PageMuse is reading - Shonen Jump Viz Account, $1.99/mo mangaMuse is reading- Futekiya - BL Manga subscription service Muse recs Scarlet Beriko, a BL Manga authorMuse recs "The Lazarus Gap" by Dolimir (Clark/Lex amnesia fic)Muse recs works by garryowen, aka dogpoet (ao3 profile page) Muse recs works by Vera, aka dragonmuse ao3 profile page)#ficwip contact information carrd“The Fic that Haunts You” Notion SiteContact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "In the Air Tonight" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
Sara and Laura catch up and talk about what they’ve been reading (angsty ‘Toy Story’ teen romance! Wincest in the world of ‘Tremors’ ! fake-marriage-scifi! Jason Todd/Dick Grayson!) ; what they’ve been writing (Batfamily! Green Lantern GuyKyle space husbands!) ; and Laura talks about her recent adventures in DC Comics land, where among other things, Guy Gardner of Space Sector 2814 gets KO’d by Batman, and tries to take his prospective girlfriend to a porno. And also why you should love Guy Gardner.
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Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] Intro/Outro Music: Kyle Laurin "In the Air Tonight" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Background music for reading excerpt: "White Horses on the Beach" by NaturesEye (Pixabay)Episode References
"A Moonlight Sonata" by DarlingJenny (Schroeder/Lucy) "The Elko County Adventure" by Candle_beck (Sam/Dam, SPN&Tremors Crossover)"Under the Table and Dreaming" by hollycomb (Andy/Sid, Toy Story)“Theories About Nuclear Winter” by hollycomb (Calvin/Susie, Calvin and Hobbes)"underneath your skin (let me in)" by Sandrine Shaw (Sandrine) Captain Cold/The Flash, CW’s ‘The Flash’ ) “Planet of L” by Jakowic (Jason Todd/Dick Grayson, DC Comics)“Jealous Guy” by Elise_51 and Storyshark2005 (Guy Gardner/Kyle Rayner, DC Comics)"Even the Losers" by Elise_51 (JayDick Summer Exchange 2021)Comics Biblio
Justice League International Volume 1 (Trade Paperpack)DC Wiki - JLA Vol 1 #28 - "A Date with Destiny" or, Guy Takes Tora to a Porno Guy Gardner: Year One - Chuck Dixon (Four issue arc, 'Guy Gardner' issues #11-14)LUTHOR - Bermejo/Azzarello, DC Comics (TP, Black Label Edition) Forever Evil - Johns/Friend/Finch , DC Comics (TP)Under the Red Hood - Loeb/Winick/Starlin, DC Comics (TP)"Under the Red Hood" [Animated Feature Film on HBO Max]BATGIRL: STEPHANIE BROWN VOL. 1 - Brian Q. Miller, DC Comics (TP)BATGIRL: STEPHANIE BROWN VOL. 2 - Brian Q. Miller, DC Comics (TP) Green Lantern: Emerald Warriors - Tomasi, DC Comics (TP)Green Lantern Corps Vol 1: Fearsome - Tomasi, DC Comics (TP) -
A-TEAM, ASSEMBLE!! Sara joins forces with Beth from The Fanfic Maverick Podcast to take a DEEP DIVE into the history of fanfiction as we know it. From Ancient Greece to Ao3, we try and cover it all.
How are fanfic authors protected by US Copyright Law? (Fair Use!) If George Lucas gets squicked out by your Luke/Han lemon, can his team of lawyers punt your PWP? (Not if you’re non-commercial, young padawan!) How much do you know about the speakeasy of fanfiction, that seedy backroom of the internet obscurely known as WWOMB? (Beth will regale you!) How many items on astolat's original Ao3 wishlist came true (ALL OF THEM! pretty much!)AFTER LISTENING, subscribe to the Fanfic Maverick Podcast on Apple, Spotify, or whatever-- and stay tuned for PART 2: The exciting panel-style conclusion, where Sara and Beth round up a couple of fandom OGs who will tell you how is was-- and is!
Contact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "In the Air Tonight" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected]Biblio/Articles to Read
The Fanfic Maverick Podcast: SUBSCRIBE on your podcast platform, or find next week's episode HERE! https://www.fanficmaverickpodcast.com/ The Fanfiction Studies Reader (Univ of Iowa Press-- you can purchase direct from here, or please contact your local independent bookstore!) https://fanlore.org/wiki/Main_Page VICE, “The Forgotten Early History of Fanfiction” The Surprising 18th Century Origins of Fanfiction (The Atlantic) Fanart in the 18th Century - "The Punishment Inflicted on Lemuel Gulliver" by William Hogarth Medium: "Fanfiction and Copyright" Legal Fictions: Copyright, Fan Fiction, and a New Common Law (R. Tushnet, Georgetown Law article, 1997)"The Promise and Potential of Fanfiction" (The New Yorker) Alexander Pope wrote a series of “touching if bawdy” poems about Gulliver’s barely mentioned wife, Mary Gulliver, History of Media Fanzines (fanlore)2021 article on Star Trek Prodigy Group ATF https://fanlore.org/wiki/Supernatural_Roundtable (Didn’t get to it, but I just thought this was cool)https://fanlore.org/wiki/Category:Chronology https://fanlore.org/wiki/Fandom_1994-2000-ish/Part_One https://fanlore.org/wiki/Fandom_1994-2000-ish/Part_Two Webrings (fanlore) Gossamer Archive Trek Fiction (dot com) Due South Archive / Hexwood (1994)Jedi Apprentice Fan Dimension (2000) (Sara’s first!)http://www.lcfanfic.com/ Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive (1996 TO PRESENT)A Brief History of Modern Fanfiction, the migration of online communities (cached article)Announcing Fanfic.net: The Definitive Xfiles Source (fanlore)LJ 2007 (there was also a second strikethrough purge later in 2008)Fandom, IncFanlore - cupidsbow "How Fanfiction Makes Us Poor" (April 26, 2007)Cesperanza - “Dear Fandom: Could You Please Stop Saying That?” LJ (May 17, 2007)Fanlore - Astolat’s “An Archive of One's Own” (LJ, May 17 2007) (see more below) Wattpad sold (techcrunch article) -
PART TWO!! Sara and Andrea continue their discussion, this time with the aid of White Claw and more beer. Topics include: motherhood and writing, the challenges of being a short-form/flash fiction writer in a novelist’s world, finding motivation for wanting to do the “professional writing thing”, and the “silliness of the sequel.” We talk more about “Light as a Feather”, how ‘Kentucky South’ is a little different than the rest of the South (a very specific preoccupation with corrected Sonic slushies), AND Biscuit lets us know that the FedEx man is here!
Also, Sara gets pretty tipsy trying to read her “Rapid Fire” questions, and we giggle over ugly “SAD” ultraviolet mood-lifting lights. Where do you put them??
DON’T FORGET TO VOTE!: “RARE PAIR SUMMER SLAM 2k21: LIKE A VIRGIN” starts May 29th!!
Episode References
Ao3 Profile - provocative_envy Andrea Anderson - Professional Website Work - Over/Under (ao3) [Scabior/Draco summer camp, sort of??]Work - Time Go (ao3) [the Pansy/Harry hockey escort fic!]Tumblr Ask - provocative_envy's Top 3 Light as a Feather (read here for the price of cheap coffee!) "RARE PAIR SUMMER SLAM 2k21: LIKE A VIRGIN” Andrea is reading “The Serpent and the Pearl” by Kate QuinnContact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "In the Air Tonight" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
IT'S A TWO-FER!
Sara sits down with professional author Andrea Anderson, who also writes fanfiction under the pen name provocative_envy. In Part One, Andrea talks about early writing (total and complete creative freedom! Wearing black! Missing the subtext in Sylvia Plath!), her work in fanfiction digging into the least explored characters in the Harry Potter universe, and how that bridged her into writing her own original fiction.
We discuss her published novel, “Light as a Feather” which you can purchase here (I did, it’s the perfect summer read!) And dig into the nitty gritty of outlining, structure, pacing, and how to “write like you’re going somewhere.”
We also compare chubby indoor cats with poor jumping skills, to “unambitious Slytherins.” Also we may have had a drink or two.
DON’T FORGET TO VOTE!: “RARE PAIR SUMMER SLAM 2k21: LIKE A VIRGIN” starts May 29th!! (Want to see Pavarti “Sephora checkout girl” Patil and OrganizedCrimeLord!Tom Riddle get together?? OR Percy Weasley as a LinkedIn Influencer??!! OR Farmer!Dudley and petty/vindictive/comically overfunded filmmaker!Draco ??!! EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT!)
PART TWO coming later this week!!
Episode References
Ao3 Profile - provocative_envy Andrea Anderson - Professional Website Work - Over/Under (ao3) [Scabior/Draco summer camp, sort of??]Work - Time Go (ao3) [the Pansy/Harry hockey escort fic!]Tumblr Ask - provocative_envy's Top 3 Light as a Feather (read here for the price of cheap coffee!) "RARE PAIR SUMMER SLAM 2k21: LIKE A VIRGIN” (tumblr) Voting starts May 29th!Contact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "In the Air Tonight" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
Talkin’ Fanfic
Episode No. - 203
Episode Title - Interview with RivkaT
RivkaT has written 53 stories in the Smallville fandom, and many, many stories in other fandoms such as Supernatural, The X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and Fringe. Sara notes that nearly every time she sits down to read a RivkaT story, she learns something-- new vocabulary, a joke she hadn’t picked up on the first time, a new way of looking through a character’s eyes-- her writing is immersive, intelligent, incredibly thoughtful-- and fun! And even when utilizing overtly silly or overused tropes and clichés, nothing is cheaply handled. She is one of the best of the very best, not just in the Smallville fandom, but in the pantheon of authors held in highest regard. Sara was honored to sit down with her and talk about her work, including Sara’s favorite, “Useful Arts.”
Episode References
Work - "Useful Arts" by rivkat - Ao3 Work - “Ceremony of Innocence” - Ao3 (THE CORRUPTION ONE ;) Work - “Repent at Leisure” - Ao3Work - “Locked Room Mystery” - Ao3Sime~Gen Universe, by by Jacqueline Lichtenberg (Wikipedia)Fanlore article on RivkaTFanlore article on X-Files fandom writing partner MustangSally (this article also links to a Writer’s Block interview with Sally"D'Aulaires Book of Greek Myths" (Penguin Random House, children's nonfiction)Edith Hamilton's "Mythology (Barnes and Noble) Useful Arts background - What is a PHOSITA? (Wikipedia)YouTube Clip - Oliver Queen looking fantaaaaaaastic in dragRivka is reading - "The Goblin Emperor" (series) - Katherine AddisonRivka is reading - "This Virtual Night" - C.S. Friedman ("philosophy with thin skin of sci-fi")Rivka is reading - The Ministry for the Future - Kim Stanley Robinson (Sci-Fi)Rivka is reading - Creatures of Empire: How Domestic Animals Transformed Early America (History/Nonfiction)Fanfic Rec - Smallville fics by astolat (Ao3)Fanfic Rec - Smallville fics by Thamiris (Ao3)Fanfic Rec - “Manifest Destiny” by Liviapenn (Ao3)Fanfic Rec - “Looking Glass Country” by astolat (Ao3) Recc - Star Trek tie-in novel - "How Much for Just the Planet?" by John M. Ford [$5 thrift novel, you can find $8 ebook on Simon and Schuster site]Recc - “JLA: Tower of Babel” (JLA Vol. 1 #43 to 46)Contact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "In the Air Tonight" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
Sara sits down with XParrot, whose writing in the Smallville fandom she finds inspiring and incandescent! They talk about getting into the fascinating and flawed mind of Lex Luthor, and his philosophical preoccupation with the unsolvable problem of an imperfect being wielding unimaginable power; they dip into the Yu-Gi-Oh fandom to look at another troubled genius, Seto Kaiba; they discuss dramatic irony, and how canon allows fanfiction authors to anchor a story to certain points, and from there climb to heights unreachable by typical and traditional methods of fiction writing; aaaaand also what Michael Rosenbaum’s famous ad-lib “I love you like a brother” really should mean in the context of a CW show. Also we mention The CoCK. Heh.
Episode References
"String Theory at 1 a.m." by XParrot - AO3 "Exchange Student" by XParrot - AO3 "The Right of Truth" by XParrot - AO3 “This Mortal Coil” by XParrot - AO3"Contingencies" by XParrot - AO3 Star Trek “The New Voyages” (Article on Memory Alpha)Recc - The Identical Series by Lanning - AO3Recc - "The Butterfly Effect" by The Spike (spike21) - AO3 Meta Analysis - The Lex-nalysis (XParrot Dreamwidth Entries)“The Great Brain Robbery” - YT Clip (Clancy Brown voicing the Flash in Lex Luthor’s Body)"Lex Luthor: Man of Steel" Azzarello/Bermejo - DC Comics A Comic Book Store Owner talks about Why Superman Is the BestContact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "In the Air Tonight" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
A quick and dirty on what's coming in 2021! BONUS BADASS NEW THEME BY COBRA KYLE!! You've been waiting for this podcast, for all your life, oh Law-awd!! AWARDS, nominations close March 3rd!! PLUS listen to my buddy ChaosBlue's badass podcast "The Fanfic Maverick Podcast"
Episode References:
MASTER POST - 2021 CK Fanfiction Awards (tumblr)The Fanfic Maverick Podcast (stream on Cast)The Fanfic Maverick Podcast (tumblr) Fanfic Maverick (instagram) Arabella tribute to thamiris, with IRL obit (LiveJournal)Slashaholics - Thamiris Memorial Archive Fanlore article on Thamiris Fanlore article on Thamiris article "If Frodo loved Bilbo" from Nov 2002. Candle_beck (ao3) SPN Roundtable - Interview with Candle_beck (Livejournal)Contact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "In the Air Tonight" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
This week Sara and Laura discuss “Who Is Like God?” a work in progress (WIP) written by A_LazyPanda (some of you may know her as Gia467). Centering on the character of Miguel, this work is a type of hero’s journey story that straddles the metaphysical line between the Valley as we know it, and something far more mysterious, magical, dark, and dangerous. It’s a story about the gray areas-- between right and wrong, between the ‘real’ and the fantastic, and between free will and fate. The story is also enhanced with a carefully chosen soundtrack (see Youtube playlist below) and some truly lovely fanart.
Perfect for readers looking for a refreshing departure from typical fanfiction plots and tropes and the typical romance-centered story, dive into this WIP now and be ready for the conclusion!
READ the full interview and show notes HERE on AO3
(ALSO: Laura and Sara end the episode at 1h14m ; from there till the end they talk recent engagement with the DC Comics Batman and Superman fandoms. Stick around for that if you want to geek out with us!)
Episode References
Full Q&A Interview and more notes! (AO3)Work - "Who Is Like God?" by A_LazyPanda (AO3) Video - Guillermo Del Toro on Pan's Labyrinth Soundtrack “Who Is Like God?” (YouTube Playlist)Video - Stephen Fry explains the Tristan and Isolde chordWork - “Boy Toy” by A_LazyPanda (AO3)Fic Rec - "Sneaking Through Johnny's Window" by ChangeTheCircumstances - AO3DC BONUS - Notes
Laura Author Rec - Batfam - MikimooLaura Author Rec - Batfam - PentapusLaura rec - Batfam story - "Strange Manor" by pentapus Sara rec - Clex - "Conflicts of Interest" by rageprufrockSara rec - Clex - "Reconcilable Differences" by astolatSara rec - Clex - "Useful Arts" by rivkatContact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "Young Hearts Medley" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
Sara interviews LibertinePast, author of “Foreigner”, “The Backyard Series”, “Misgivings”, and SO MANY others! As one of the OG writers in the quiver, she has contributed so much to the LawRusso community, and also was one of the first to write “Amoush”, the Amanda/Anoush pairing. Her writing is chock-a-block with pop-culture, tongue-in-cheek references, and humor-- but is always infused with heartache and melancholy, resulting in a powerful blended tone and style that is always entertaining, nostalgic, and emotive. She is also a delightful, positive, and uncynical presence on Tumblr, so give her a follow to brighten your dashboard.
IN MEMORY OF ROB GARRISON: Today, 9/27/20, marks one year since Rob Garrison’s passing. Let’s remember Rob this week, and think about all that he gave us fans with his performance as Tommy both in The Karate Kid, and Season 2 of Cobra Kai. Remember that ‘Cobra Kai Never Dies’ and Rob will live on with the legacy of his performance as Tommy in the hearts of us fans. RIP.
Episode References
Work - "Foreigner" by LibertinePast - AO3Series - "The Backyard Series" by LibertinePast - AO3 Work - "Misgivings" by LibertinePast - AO3"Imagine Looking Over Your Menya At This" Theresa May jaunty walk - Tumblr"Crazy Heart" by Tom Cobb - GoodreadsSunset Beach Cole & Olivia “Your Libertine Past” - YouTube videoRalph looks like he’s “naturally going backwards”/”glowing”/ “a good hair day”Definition of "capacious" - Merriam Webster OnlinePhotos - “The Leather Jacket” Wendy’s ad Campaign - getty imagesVideo - #BBQ4MERICA Ralph w/ Alphonso Ribeiro and Stone Cold Steve AustinArticle - Zabka says Daniel and Johnny are “meant for each other” - Pop CultureContact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "Young Hearts Medley" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
A shorter solo episode! Sara looks at what's new on AO3, briefly (and politely, worry not!) discusses the recent kerfuffle on Tumblr over "ship hating", plugs supporting your local independent bookstore, and digs into the first couple of chapters of John Gardner's "The Art of Fiction".
Episode References
"The Art of Fiction" by John Gardner - GoodreadsWork - "Good for You" by A_LazyPandaWork - "#NotAllMen" by lostmagicianContact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin “Young Hearts Medley” (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] -
Switch842 is one of the best and most prolific vidders (a creator of fanvids) in the Cobra Kai fandom, and is also a familiar presence in the Cobra Kai Kompanion community. Kerri has written several one-shot and short pieces of fanfiction centering on the friendship and relationship between Daniel and Johnny, which are discussed in this episode. The gals also talk extensively about her vidding experience, and dig into how she chooses to tell a visual story vs. a visual showcase, or in many cases a little bit of both.
Other topics-- Johnny's potential as a priest! (Answer-- yes please). Michael "Rosey" Rosenbaum's podcast "Inside of You", the absurdity of Smallville plots and character ages-- and "is Supernatural really still on??"
Episode References:
Playlist - Cobra Kai Music Vids by Switch842 - YouTubeVideo - “No Mercy” by Switch842 - Vimeo link via AO3Work - "Cobra Kai Ficlets" by Switch842 - AO3Work - "Burn It Down" by Switch842 - AO3Work - “Open Course” by Switch842 - AO3Ficlet Prompt - “To Know What’s Right” (Priest!Johnny, may end up as original fiction)Video - "The Stargate Cantina" by Brihana25 - YoutubeWebsite -”Wolfpup’s Songvids” - ‘Supernatural’ vidder wolfpup, videos downloadableContact and Credits:
Music: Kyle Laurin "Young Hearts Medley" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com Instagram: @talkinfanficEmail: [email protected] - Show more
