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  • Come on a journey into the world of sustainable tourism with Craig Haslam, a pioneer in enhancing South Australia's environmental and tourist landscapes. Discover how Craig's company, Untamed Escapes, is setting new standards in eco-tourism and hear about his advocacy for the region, along with his belief in how the foundation of all good tourism is bases in human-to-human interaction. A must-listen for all professionals in tourism and sustainability!

    The SA Drink Of The Week this week is a special Shiraz from Eight At The Gate Wines.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature a new song from Audio Reign that is perfect "driving" music if you like your tunes full throttle!

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: [email protected]

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    Running Sheet: Leadership Drought: A Call to Wine Australia Amid Small And Family Winery Despair

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:03:13 SA Drink Of The Week

    The SA Drink Of The Week this week is a 2019 Family Reserve Shiraz from Eight At The Gate Wines in Wrattonbully, South Australia.

    The sisters behind the winery, Jane and Claire, were previously on The Adelaide Show, recording a chat in their vineyards.

    00:13:19 Craig Haslam And Tourism In South Australia

    Our special guest in this episode is a man who is well respected in tourism circles in South Australia, Australia, and on the world stage. He is the founder of Untamed Escapes, which has shown the wild side of South Australia to many visitors from around the world - and even shown many locals what's been right under our noses the whole time. Aside from being involved in Eyre Peninsula tourism since the naughties, he is currently Chair of the South Australian Leadership Group of the Australian Tourism Export Council. I welcome, Craig "Hassie" Haslam.

    Tourism is about people; people connecting with people. Do you agree?

    I remember meeting you through some online marketing workshops and social media marketing workshops that I ran from 2005, and I was in awe of the imagery you had, using the old cameras back then. You were pushing the envelope regarding the way you were searching for ways to use modern technology to capture the spirit of your passengers' experiences in the bush. You must be answering a deep call of the wild. Any idea how that began?

    What are some of the hairiest moments you've had out there?

    What holds some of us city slickers back? How can we learn to embrace the wild?

    What was it like operating tours across the Nullarbor Plain in the early days? What unique challenges did you face?

    How have consumer expectations and behaviours changed since you first started in the tourism sector?

    How did the COVID-19 pandemic impact your business, and what adjustments did you find most effective?

    As someone passionate about environmental sustainability, what practices have you implemented in your tours to minimise the ecological footprint?

    Can you share insights into your involvement with the Australian Tourism Export Council and its significance to your business?

    How do you see the future of tourism in South Australia, particularly in light of climate change and environmental concerns?

    You've been a strong advocate for the Eyre Peninsula. What makes this region special for tourists?

    What new trends or innovations in tourism are you most excited about right now?

    What advice would you give to new entrepreneurs entering the tourism industry today?

    Looking back, what would you say has been your greatest achievement in your career?

    Finally, what legacy do you hope to leave behind in the tourism industry and for the region you're so passionate about?

    01:31:40 Musical Pilgrimage

    In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature song by Audio Reign from their upcoming album being released on May 11, 2024. This track is called, Crown.

    We think this is pretty decent driving music. Try it on your next Nullarbor trip!

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  • Whether you drink a little bit of South Australian wine, or a lot, your decisions about what you buy and where you buy it from, make a big difference. We sit with three passionate people from the wine industry, today, and they have some tales of woe to share, some stories about labour of love they all carry out, and some messages to those of us who’d like to see a thriving sector of small, family-run wineries who bring texture and body to the glass and to many circles of the economy throughout our state.

    There is no SA Drink Of The Week this week. Well, actually, there are four, but they are woven through the episode.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature a new song from Suedan, that is slightly related to our theme: Whiskey Did It.

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We’re here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It’s an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we’ll add you to the list: [email protected]

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    Running Sheet: Leadership Drought: A Call to Wine Australia Amid Small And Family Winery Despair00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

    Not one but four SA Drinks Of The Week this week. They are interwoven throughout the episode. If you would like to hear the tasting notes, you’ll find them here:

    00:09:08 – Paulmara Estates 2021 “The Marriage” Cabernet Shiraz

    00:47:27 – Ben Murray Wines 2021 Barossa Valley Shiraz

    01:18:15 – Flinders Run 2021 Baroota Creek Cabernet Sauvignon

    01:49:05 – Paulmara Estates 2021 ARETÎ

    00:03:19 Paul Georgiadis, Emanuel Skorpos, Dan Eggleton

    It’s a tough gig, being at the helm of a family-owned winery in Australia in 2024. China’s tariffs on Australian wine bit hard, causing a glut in supply, while the multinationals like Coles and Woolworths used their clout to create “fake” boutique wines that “magically” got shelf space and retailer support from, well, Coles and Woolworths. Meanwhile, our 2500 wineries and grape growers have been contributing to the coffers of Wine Australia in the hope that its role of supporting and regulating the Australian grape and wine industry would mean that someone was looking out for them and not ignoring the big bad wolves who are plundering the sector every day. But, if you’re surviving in this industry, maybe that’s enough because as one of the guests who couldn’t make it today was quoted as saying on the ABC recently, you don’t get into the wine industry to make money, you do it because you love it!

    Who are our guests? We have Paul Georgiadis who, among other things, is the founder and owner of Paulmara Estates, along with his wife, Mara. We’re recording at Paulmara in Marananga today. We also have the man who suggested we hold this discussion, Emanuel Skorpos, the Principal Vintner at Flinders Run in the Southern Flinders, and Dan Eggleton, the cofounder and winemaker at Ben Murray Wines and Principal and Founder of Vinous Consulting.

    I like naming elephants in rooms, so my first reflection is that we’re all blokes, sitting around this table. We haven’t excluded women, it’s more that Emanuel is directly connected to you all and this gathering developed organically from there. Had we more microphones, I would have arranged for Jane Richards to join us from Eight At The Gate Wines in Wrattonbully – she is an absolute dynamo – and I’m sure you all work with women in different roles. Can we acknowledge some before we move on?

    The key theme of our discussion is that “mum and dad” wineries make up the bulk of those 2500 wineries in Australia, and it always hurts a bit when we see our Premier hobnobbing at a new Wolf Blass cellar door to celebrate government support for a business you’d think was hardly in need of extra help. Mind you, I did mention this to a winemaker friend of mine, who is also part of a family-run winery, and he confessed that he “gets it” because the levies that fund Wine Australia are based on volume and the big end of town contributes more than we do. Can we start here? What are the big pain points for family wineries right now, and where does the support of Wine Australia hit and miss, in your opinions?

    Summarising the role of Wine Australia, goes like this. It’s role is to support and regulate the Australian grape and wine industry with its primary functions being Research and Development (R&D) (and sharing and commercialising results of that research), Marketing and Promotion to boost consumption of grape products here and overseas, Regulation and Compliance, especially when exporting, and User Pays activities. But I note this: Wine Australia operates under a Statutory Funding Agreement with the Australian Government, which prohibits it from engaging in political activities or acting as an industry representative. Its governance and operations aim to achieve the best possible return on investment for the Australian grape and wine sector. Does this mean it’s not the body that has any role to play in protecting us from the savagery of the duopolies, or in lobbying for government support to be directed to particular sectors, like “mum and dad” wineries?

    While on the government front, state and federal governments are crowing about China’s ending of the industry-strangling tariffs it had placed on Australian wine, but I haven’t seen Emanuel popping the sparkling wine cork. Does this mean there is devil in the detail?

    I am curbing alcohol consumption and opting for quality over quanitity. I am not alone. What do you make of this trend?

    What’s your message for government? Is it harder for them to care, given how many of you there are vs there being just a handful of big, headline-grabbing operators?

    What’s your message for consumers? Should they change buying habits? Do little changes make a difference?

    01:57:17 Musical Pilgrimage

    In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature song by Suedan, from the latest album, Suedan Mountain Blues, titled, Whiskey Did It.

    While our panel is still here, what impact is the explosion of distilleries having on the wine sector?

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  • In this important episode, we delve into the complexities of living with disabilities in Adelaide, set against the backdrop of the city's ongoing efforts towards inclusivity. Our guests, including David Olney, Jorja Denton, and insights from Clair Crowley of the Strong & Capable Co-operative, share their lived experiences navigating well-intended urban interventions that sometimes present mixed outcomes for individuals with different disabilities. As Adelaide seeks public feedback on its new Disability Access and Inclusion Plan, this conversation aims to contribute unique perspectives to the dialogue, exploring the interplay of technology, community support, and the broader societal understanding of disability.

    There is no SA Drink Of The Week this week.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature the the song "Fabulous" by Rachael Leahcar, written and produced exclusively for the No Strings Attached Theatre Of Disability.

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: [email protected]

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    Running Sheet: Navigating Adelaide with Disabilities Amid Well-Intentioned Interventions

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

    No SA Drink Of The Week this week.

    00:02:32 Jorja Denton, David Olney, Clair Crowley

    The City of Adelaide publicly states that it's committed to making the city a welcoming and inclusive place for all people to enjoy by working toward demonstrating best practice in access and inclusion planning. And yet, even in my small circle of friends living with disability, I know about certain interventions that are great for people with certain forms of disability while making matters worse for others. With the City seeking public feedback on its new Disability Access and Inclusion Plan by 5pm, April 2, 2024, I thought we'd get a few people around a microphone to share their lived experiences and maybe this episode might be an unusual contribution to that process? My guests today are my friend, fellow podcaster, and colleague at Talked About Marketing, David Olney, another friend made through the early years of The Adelaide Show Podcast, Jorja Denton, and General Manager of the Strong & Capable Co-operative & a social innovator, Clair Crowley.

    I should note that Clair could not be here with us in person, today, but she has contributed some thoughts. I should also note that one of the most important aspects of her organisation, is its Peer Mentoring Program, which invites people with particular expertise and passion to mentor someone living with a disability to learn more about and engage in that field of interest. But the key thing is that this program includes mentoring BY people living with disability, not just FOR them. This is an important step in maturity for our society, and if you'd like to learn more, there's a Peer Mentoring Launch Party on Thursday, April 4, from 4.30-8pm, at Hard Days Night ADL. Launch Party invitiation. You can find info about the Co-Op and its programs over at www.strongandcapable.com.au.

    David and Jorja, perhaps I should get a reflection from you both by the universal, two-way flow model that Clair is developing through that program?

    Jorja, can you give us a snapshot of your lived experience with a disability and perhaps a "day in the life" view of how you get on in the world?

    David, could you do the same - giving us a snapshot of your lived experience and what a "day in the life" looks like for you?

    Looking at The City of Adelaide's Draft Disability Access and Inclusion Plan, there seem to be five main initiatives that are worth discussing and that will give us some more inroads into your lives. They are:

    Infrastructure Improvements: The plan includes specific targets for enhancing the accessibility of the city's infrastructure, such as footpath ramps, audio-tactile push buttons at crossings, and accessible bus stops.Liveable Neighbourhoods: Efforts to create more inclusive communities include the development of sensory-friendly spaces, upgraded Changing Places facilities, and the implementation of accessible community grants programs. Now, on that, I had no idea what Changing Places were and I found this definition on the Council's website: Changing Places facilities are best-practice bathrooms for people living with disability and their support person. They offer more space, a hoist and other customised features, providing dignified and purpose-built toileting and showering facilities for people with disability when you are out and about.Events and Festivals: The plan aims to make Adelaide's vibrant events scene more accessible through an accessible events project, incorporating accessibility planning checklists for event organisers and partnerships to foster access and inclusion.Business Engagement: A Business Access and Inclusion Program is proposed to improve the accessibility of city businesses, including efforts to promote inclusive businesses and support upgrades through development of skills and knowledge in the sector.Inclusive Customer and Employee Experiences: This involves training for City of Adelaide employees in inclusive practices, improvement in the accessibility of Council meetings, and a commitment to co-design and consultation activities involving people with disabilities.

    I'd like to wander back through these, and we might start with the last two or three, about training and promoting Council, Business, and Event management and employees to foster better access and inclusion. And there's one hurdle here that I think needs naming, and that is TIME. I feel that I'm under pressure to work much faster than ever before and if there's one thing I've noticed when organisations like No Strings work with people with disabilities, especially in physical gatherings, we all have the calm the heck down and slow down. And I mean, really slow down. Is this a tangible threat to the success of these initiatives or a mirage created by our own self-centredness?

    CLAIR: The common theme for me through starting my own business where I supported tourism operators to become more inclusive and where I am now with the co-operative, is that lived experience is where the value is, and even though everyone experiences their disability in their own unique way, the insights and knowledge that people with lived experience with disability can share with others is absolutely priceless and trusted. In tourism in particular we have seen inclusion come in leaps and bounds with the services they provide and their willingness to find ways to welcome more people through their doors, this refers to adapting the physical environment AND the customer experience. Many small - med owner operated businesses have an advantage in this space because they are in the frontline interacting with customers and they know the operational aspect of their business inside out, this means that when they listen to their customers to be more inclusive and they (usually) have the ability to adapt quickly and with a warm welcome.

    One thing I think would be an amazing asset would be the accessibility planning checklists for event organisers. Anything to make it easier and not half-hearted, is a good thing. I remember talking about having Jorja over to watch a movie at our place but none of our doors are compliant. Surely that doesn't happen with buildings today but instead of throwing shade, actually shining a light seems like a good move.

    The liveable neighbourhoods section is where I turn to both of you because you both live within the City Of Adelaide. How liveable is it or is it not?

    Let's turn to infrastructure, such as footpath ramps, audio-tactile push buttons at crossings, and accessible bus stops. Can you please take me on a tour of the good, the bad, and the ugly?

    How has technology enhanced your autonomy in navigating the city, and can you give examples where it fills gaps left by urban infrastructure?

    Technology is one thing, but human touch and support is another. I would love you both to reflect on whether or not it is important that friends, families, and colleagues support you by going the extra mile to make inclusion possible, but I want to preface this discussion by another comment from Clair.

    CLAIR: For my family, sport provided a pathway into a new life, after my husband's accident, he was invited to play wheelchair basketball and this was absolutely instrumental in finding his way forward. Sport continues to play an incredibly important role for us, it means we are part of a community where we can connect with like minded people, contribute and participate, it keeps us fit and healthy and always striving forward. It also opened up doors we didn't even know existed, for example we got to live in Northern Italy for a Wheelchair Basketball season and la dolce vita! In Italy it was really evident that good customer service is what makes the biggest difference to how we feel we 'fit in'. The built environment had its challenges, but we were always met with an Italian that was ready to help as needed.

    Clair mentioned sport, how important is the visibility of paralympic athletes in changing perceptions about disability, and what more can be done to support and promote disability sports?

    And turning to the arts and popular culture, can you identify TV shows or movies that either positively represent disability or perpetuate stereotypes? How do these representations influence public perceptions?

    What are some closing thoughts for those of us who are "not considered to be living with disabilities", from the perspective of inclusion, and just being a decent human?

    00:59:57 Musical Pilgrimage

    In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature song by Rachael Leahcar, written and produced exclusively for No Strings Attached Theatre Of Disability.

    Rachael says it reflects the “esprit de corps” she experienced being in amongst the whole No Strings team for her final placement for her uni studies (Bachelor of Disability and Developmental Education). And I quote:

    “I looked up what esprit de corps means and I completely agree with this and all the other sentiments. This is a huge team effort and I'm in total awe of how everyone worked together so seamlessly, navigating obstacles and making snap decisions sometimes. Everyone has so much passion for the arts and I want to thank you all, as a performer with a disability myself, for giving the opportunity for people to be portrayed as ACTORS instead of characters with disability (nothing wrong with that as well, just a rare opportunity). The actors have often commented how great it is to be accepted and have their strengths recognised.”

    The song has been gifted to No Strings and if you'd like to support the company by buying a copy, please contact them at nostringsattached.org.au.

    As an aside, Rachael actually wrote and recorded the song in the week before the No Strings end of year showcase, AMPLIFY, which was also the week just before her wedding!

    I also note that while she wrote this specifically for the show, everyone embraced it as their own personal theme song.

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  • James Rolevink and his wife, Rai, received just under $30,000 to look after vegetation on their Forreston property. That money was a small slice of the $1.3 million paid out to private landowners late last year as part of the State Government's Native Vegetation Heritate Agreement program. James has a legally-binding agreement to look after specified native vegetation and his story is fascinating.

    (The image on the show notes for this episode is the Blue Fairy Orchid, taken by James Rolevink).

    The SA Drink Of The Week is The Soloist 2021 Shiraz by Coriole, and it does link in nicely with our main topic.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature the new single "Humble Heart" by West Thebarton, offering a taste of their upcoming album "Mongrel Australia."

    Plus a special cheerio to U3A Flinders (University of the Third Age), where Steve spoke recently about 10 years of podcasting. We hear from one "volunteer", Elizabeth Bleby, and we should thank Steve's mum, Yvonne Davis, for lobbying for the talking spot.

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: [email protected]

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    Running Sheet: Protecting Native Plants From Kangaroos In The Adelaide Hills

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:04:38 SA Drink Of The Week

    The SA Drink Of The Week this week is the 2021 The Soloist Shiraz from Coriole.

    As Steve notes in his tasting, apart from loving this wine, he compares the nature of The Soloist vineyard to the work James is doing on behalf of the native plants he is now custodian of. All will be explained.

    00:08:44 James Rolevink

    After losing everything in the Cudlee Creek bushfires, James Rolevink and his wife, Rai, bought a property at Forreston in the Adelaide Hills, hoping to start a new chapter in their lives. Well, little did they realise that before too long, the State Government gave them close to $30,000 to look after their garden. Well, that's not exactly the situation. As you're about to hear, James received this money to help his family protect rare and threatened native plants from, among other things, kangaroos. James, welcome to The Adelaide Show podcast.

    Before we get into the grant and the plants, I need to ask about Cudlee Creek because I am 100% sure that I have no idea what it would be like to lose everything in a bushfire. In the hope that it might spur more of us to take our bushfire planning more seriously, what are some of the consequences of the bushfire that took you by surprise, that you didn't foresee?

    Today is tipped to reach 40 degrees. How present is the threat of bushfire in your mind?

    Our native plants have evolved to regenerate after bushfires, before we talk about them, can you see now that new things were generated within you and Rai as a result of this experience?

    Now, I'm told that when you and Rai saw this property, everybody else was looking left while you were looking right. What had caught your eye that the others were missing?

    Had you always known about native plants? What prompted your interest?

    Something that was counterintuitive when I first heard about your story, was native plants being threatened by kangaroos. To be fair, I suppose we have squeezed roos out of their habitat and we have put lots of paddocks of vegetation into place that helps them breed. Can you talk us through the situation and how it really sent you down the Heritage Agreement rabbit hole, so to speak? Actually, our episode on the History Of Rabbits In Australia is fascinating and worth a listen.

    Do any of the native plants on your property bear fruit that can be eaten because then I could say the grant is "money for jam"?

    I mentioned the temperature earlier, it's going to hit 40 today. We know native plants cope with bushfires by regenerating afterwards, but how do they get through these boiling days?

    Do these plants attract native birds?

    They can't protect themselves from kangaroos, what about introduced grazing animals, any luck there?

    Did our colder, wetter start to summer impact anything?

    What will you be expecting to see develop through autumn and winter?

    Any tips for home gardeners in relation to natives?

    And if someone in a bushfire zone asked you what is the minimum they could do to get by, safely, what would you recommend?

    00:49:44 Musical Pilgrimage

    In the Musical Pilgrimage, we feature the new single from West Thebarton, Humble Heart.

    West Thebarton is hitting the road this year with its ‘Mongrel Australia’ Album Tour With Guests OK Hotel. The single, Humble Heart, is from their new studio album, Mongrel Australia, which will drop on March 22, 2024.

    If you're up for their high octane rock, you'll want to get tickets to see them live at The Gov on Friday, June 21, 2024. Tickets at westthebarton.com.

    And good to see the new album, with 11 tracks, was recorded in The Little Smoke© here in Adelaide, and then engineered at Twin Earth Studios, Somerton Park.

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  • It’s estimated that half of all Australians are now living from payday to payday, with no money saved up for emergencies. And yet last weekend’s opening of the Fringe saw record, pre-covid levels of people on the streets of Adelaide. We will get stuck into these seeming contradictions with our special guest, Jordon Tomopoulos from the Adelaide Economic Development Authority. Here’s a taste.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Atlas Genius has two new singles that just dropped. We’ll play one of them and build a link between them, Taylor Swift, and P!NK!

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We’re here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It’s an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we’ll add you to the list: [email protected]

    If you enjoy the show, please leave us a 5-star review in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store – The Adelaide Show Shop. We’d greatly appreciate it.

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    Running Sheet: The Economic Weather Forecast For Adelaide

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

    There is no SA Drink Of The Week this week this week.

    00:05:00 The Economic Weather Forecast For Adelaide

    There is no doubt climate change is making our weather unpredictable, but what are things like in the economic realm? Jordon Tomopoulos from the Adelaide Economic Development Agency, spends his days conducting economic research looking for insights into data and he joins us to share some of his findings.

    This talk is partly about data and partly about sentiment.

    According to some data from the financial comparison site, Finder, half of all Australians are now living pay cheque to pay cheque with no savings, with no money saved up for emergencies. Meanwhile, an Advertiser story towards the end of the first year of Covid, stated that it’s essential to transfer any spare cash into a buffer account that could see you through 3 to 6 months. It quoted Dominic Beattie, editor of online financial resource Savings.com.au, telling readers to prioritise that buffer account. The article warns people that while it’s tempting to go to the pub or eat out now that restrictions are lifting, recessions can last for a while – you don’t know what might happen down the track.”

    And now I turn to you, Jordon. At the Adelaide Economic Development Agency, you want to see a thriving economy. Before we dive into your data and analysis, as a fellow citizen here in South Australia, what’s your reaction to these two bleak items, especially when your latest weekend foot traffic report shows people have flocked to the city for the opening of the Adelaide Fringe?

    I just came back from Melbourne for Taylor Swift. The city was swarming with swifties. I hear that bead bracelet kits were sold out for months in the lead up and that international leaders were begging Tay Tay to Stay Stay in their countries for the economic impact. The Australian reports that hotel occupancy during the Friday and Saturday nights of the concerts was sitting at 83%, which is pretty impressive when you consider how many hotels exist in Melbourne. However, we have Pink coming to Adelaide next week and your numbers suggest a bigger impact?

    What is the importance of big events like concerts, conferences, and sport (AFL Gather Round), events like the Fringe, etc (although. I get the impression they are like Carbs for the city – we get a big rush and then we’re craving again. Is that fair? And is there anything that provides that lovely, Protein-like, slow release goodness over time?

    Hindley Street has been in the news with the City of Adelaide calling some special meetings to address the rapidly shrinking number of nightclubs and bars. This begs the question: Are there business models that rely too heavily on over consumption of alcohol? I ask because La Trobe University recently published a report titled, Generation Dry: why young people are drinking less. How can we cultivate that “buzz-based entertainment” when less people are chasing that high-margin buzz product?

    Has working from home stopped spending or just spread it out more through the suburbs?

    And can we get too much of a good thing? Tay Tay made us wait for going on stage – and we got the pay off. I am taking a break from Fringe because I was becoming jaded. Is there a role for peaks and troughs in a healthy economy (absense makes the heart grow fonder), or does that make you shiver?

    What was 2023 like?

    How is 2024 looking?

    00:41:12 Musical Pilgrimage

    In the Musical Pilgrimage, Steven Jeffrey had told us a new Atlas Genius song was on the way and it just dropped this week. So we’ll listen to Nobody Loves Like You.

    This fits in well with our discussion this week because we looked at the economic impact of big artists performing in a city, especially those that aren’t saturating our radio stations. Atlas Genius has a huge following in the USA and a passionate group of followers in Australia, so when I saw someone starting a petition to bring Atlas Genius back to their hometown of Adelaide, the main thing I can hear is the sound of cash registers tinkling all around the city.

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  • WARNING: This episode covers the disturbing topic of domestic violence.
    If you need help immediately, call 000.
    Don’t Be That Guy, Monday-Friday, 2pm – 7pm, call 1300 24 34 13.
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    Men’s Referral Service, call 1300 766 491
    Lifeline, call 131 114

    Something has snapped for Steve this year and this episode is his response. As he explains, the unrelenting toll of women being murdered by blokes has him distraut and feeling helpless, so he’s reached out for some wisdom about what to do when you notice or suspect domestic violence and/or coercive control being carried out by a mate or by yourself. You’ll hear from the CEO of OARS Community Transitions, Leigh Garrett, who will give us some insights and urge us to spread the word about Don’t Become That Man (DBTM) Counselling Service.

    Steve also mentions the next Pay Our Respects 2024 event on Saturday 20th January. The sixth Pay Our Respects to Australian Murdered Women event will be held on Saturday 20th January 2024 on the steps of Parliament House, gathering at 9:00- 9:15am for a 9:30am start finishing at approximately 11:30am. The gathering honours the Australian women murdered in 2023. If it’s your first time hearing about this (as was the case for Steve), Pay Our Respects has been individually honouring all the women murdered through gendered violence across Australia in the previous year.

    In the SA Drink Of The Week we have both an Olive Oil and an Italian style wine from Coriole, McLaren Vale.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, we hear from Steven Jeffrey again (of Atlas Genius fame), with a new song by Eden Of Avalon.

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    Running Sheet: Not Her Last Christmas: Calling On Men To Call Out Domestic Violence

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:06:13 SA Drink Of The Week

    In the SA Drink Of The Week this week we have two “drops”.

    The first is Coriole Extra Virgin Olive Oil 2022. The vineyard has been producing olive oil for 30 years and this latest vintage is sublime; pungent, grassy, rich, intense, and, as Steve discovers, peppery.

    The second is the Coriole Negroamaro 2023. This is a light-bodied wine, very fragrant and perfumed, perfectly balanced for chilling slightly and serving over summer. Steve’s live tasting highlights some of the gentle array of fruits and aromas.

    00:13:02 Don’t Be That Man – An Interview With Leigh Garrett, OARS Community Transitions

    Something has snapped for Steve this year and this episode is his response. As he explains, the unrelenting toll of women being murdered by blokes has him distraut and feeling helpless, so he’s reached out for some wisdom about what to do when you notice or suspect domestic violence and/or coercive control being carried out by a mate or by yourself. You’ll hear from the CEO of OARS Community Transitions, Leigh Garrett, who will give us some insights and urge us to spread the word about Don’t Become That Man (DBTM) Counselling Service.

    Steve also mentions the next Pay Our Respects 2024 event on Saturday 20th January. The sixth Pay Our Respects to Australian Murdered Women event will be held on Saturday 20th January 2024 on the steps of Parliament House, gathering at 9:00- 9:15am for a 9:30am start finishing at approximately 11:30am. The gathering honours the Australian women murdered in 2023. If it’s your first time hearing about this (as was the case for Steve), Pay Our Respects has been individually honouring all the women murdered through gendered violence across Australia in the previous year.

    00:43:38 Musical Pilgrimage

    In the Musical Pilgrimage, we hear from Steven Jeffrey again (of Atlas Genius fame), with a new song by Eden Of Avalon, Don’t Say Goodbye.

    Steven wrote this song in 2014 when he was moving to LA full time to concentrate on the music dream. He was in a long term relationship but he knew the distance was putting a strain on that. The lyrics came to him while he was flying between LA and Denver. It is about missing someone and wishing the relationship was like it was at the start.

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  • Sweet Songs is a collaboration between Doctor D and Fergus Maximus, multi-award-winning songwriters based in Adelaide. They first worked together in the sell-out Adelaide 2021 Fringe Show SWT_HM_ADL. Since then they have been delighting audiences with their music, stories and amiable on-stage personas. Their debut album Back in ADL is out now and you hear a great sampling of it, with seven full tracks in this episode.

    The episode image was shot by Ben Searcy.

    The SA Drink Of The Week - no featured drink this week.

    And the whole episode is a Musical Pilgrimage segment this week!

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    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

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    Running Sheet: Sweet Home Adelaide Songs

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

    No SA Drink Of The Week this week.

    00:02:48 Fergus Maximus and Dr D, Back in ADL

    Back In ADL is an album by Fergus Maximus and Dr D, drawing together some of the songs of their Adelaide Fringe hit show, Sweet Home Songs (and its earlier manifestations). There is so much goodness in the album, that we have them in the studio to walk us through a selection of songs about this state and this city, which has been named the Coolest Place In Australia by the Wall Street Journal.

    Buy Back in ADL on Bandcamp.

    Fergus, you've been on the Adelaide Show before, and you have 100% South Australian bona fides, having been born in Whyalla and grown up in Clare. Plus, you are married to one of our longest term listeners, Andrea Ferguson. I picture Johnny Cash walking along a railway line in the country and picking out a tune like, I Walk The Line. When did you first write a song based on a location in South Australia?

    Dr D. In the early days of our podcast, you had to be born and bred in SA to get a gong, but having moved here from the UK after your frequent visits gradually hardwired SA into your DNA, you are warmly welcomed. You've performed on five continents including legendary venues in London and Chicago. Is there a tangible, physical difference between the venues in those places compared to venues in South Australia OR if they feel more significant, is that due to the aura of those cities?

    It took me 4 or 5 songs on my first listen to fight through the echoes of cultural cringe. I’ve spoken about this with Peter Goers about how I don’t bat an eyelid when a song talks about Baton Rouge or New York or Chicago or London, but when it mentions anywhere in Australia, let alone South Australia, it feels tacky or too familiar. I don’t think it’s actually cultural cringe because I’m very proud of our country and our townships. I think it might more closely be linked to the saying that a profit is never recognised or respected in their homeland.

    Let's get going with the title track, Back in ADL.

    BACK IN ADL (17:35)

    When you are writing about places, how do you stop them from sounding like TV commercials or slogans or jingles for property developments? Henley Square is one of those songs that comes very close to sounding like this, but so, too, does the title track, Back in ADL.

    The line take me to your deli counter and let me taste your ways because there's lots of innuendo there especially with smallgoods ... or is that just me?

    In our early days, we had the Adelaide Visa Council because people made lazy jokes about Adelaide being boring and Paul Barry from Media Watch was very cynical about Adelaide earning the Coolest City label from the Wall Street Journal. Let's listen to his cowardly backhander from a recent episode of Media Bites.

    I thought we were past these lazy jokes. Your thoughts?

    The second track on the album, Gulf of St. Vincent, contains the O word. Is that pedantic to query that? Is that just Total Adelaide?

    Talking of Vincent, I think St Vincent Street is a great song that needs to be included, all about about a particular female police officer.

    VINCENT STREET (36:00)

    Talking of streets, let's address the myth of naming conventions and the belief you cannot cross the king. In episode 28 of The Adelaide Show, around the 45-minute mark, Keith Conlon highlights that it was popularly believed that the reason none of our city streets continue either side of King William Street is because you CANNOT CROSS THE KING.

    PLAY KEITH CONLON INSERT

    Have you caught much flak about that song?

    CROSS OUT THE KING (47:50)

    When you get into history, I note that This Is Our Beef has an early Redgum feel.

    Beef Rebellion story

    THIS IS OUR BEEF (58:05)

    The thing about writing songs about places we know and live it, is that we all have stories that intersect with your songs. Do people call out during the show or want to talk to you afterwards?

    FOUR TREES (MIRNU WIRRA) (1:08:01)

    If I were at your show, I'd be chewing your ear about Johnnie's Gone Away because I worked at John Martins in the 80s in the West Lakes store in boyswear. And my maternal grandman, Lillian Field, she worked in the basement of the city store in the late 1930s when a young man from an engineering company turned up to fix the lifts. He soon became my grandpa.

    Why did you guys write about John Martins, which we're reflecting on the day after the 2023 Christmas Pageant which was a gift to SA from John Martins for most of its 131 years.

    JOHNNIE'S GONE AWAY (1:17:00)

    Finally, your Fringe show has won awards, and gotten great reviews. What is next?

    Has your song, Letter To Paul Kelly, caught Paul's attention?

    LETTER TO PAUL KELLY (1:28:45)

    00:00:00 Musical Pilgrimage

    This whole episode was an extended Musical Pilgrimage segment.

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  • We have two Australian Army veterans as our special guests this episode.

    The first is the Vice President of the RSL in South Australia, and President of the Magill RSL Sub Branch, Retired Major Meredith Burgess. Apart from being a mechanic for the Australian Defence Force, she became and Officer and spent much of her career in the role of Quartermaster.

    Our second guest is Chairperson and Editor of The Top Ender, Tri-Services Magazine, and founder of Barossa Fun Factory, Deb Herring. Deb's focus on community extends throughout her work at the magazine for veterans as well as being a key part of her business.

    If you read this before November 18, 2023, Steve would like you to join him at the Magill RSL Sub Branch for an 80s Trivia Night. He'll be the Quizmaster on behalf of the organisers the Magill Sunrise Rotary Club. Details and tickets here.

    The SA Drink Of The Week - no featured drink this week.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, it's the first birthday of Dino Jag's song, Shake A Leg Like Elvis, so we'll itch that scratch and give it another spin!

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    Running Sheet: Remembering Beyond Remembrance Day

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

    No SA Drink Of The Week this week.

    00:03:29 Meredith Burgess

    That was a little snippet of the Concert Band and Chorus of the RAAF, singing Quartermaster's Store. I grew up with my dad playing "hits of the war years" over and over again and I always wondered what a quartermaster was. Well, fast forward to today and I am sitting next to a woman who has spent some of her army career as a quartermaster. I refer to Retired Major, Meredith Burgess.

    Meredith, we're sitting in the Magill RSL Sub Branch, where you are President (she is also Vice President of the RSL in South Australia) and on November 18, 2023, I'll be quiz master for an 80s trivia quiz being run by the Magill Sunrise Rotary Club to raise money for your programs here. Before we talk about them, and before you help me wrap my head around the role of a quartermaster, there is some South Australian business to attend to.

    You grew up in the wheat and sheep area of Lameroo and finished your schooling in Murray Bridge. What do you remember most about life in that part of Australia at that time?

    I worked for 7 years at 5MU and would often drive out to regional towns to do interviews in my HG70 panel van without any knowledge of mechanics. Was the tyranny of distance part of the reason that attracted you to getting under the hood? In other words, was it a simple survival mechanism?

    This drive you had for motor mechanics and metal fabrication led you to TAFE and then you joined the Army Apprentice School at Albury-Wodonga in the second class of female trainees where only 4 out of 13 graduated. My daughters have demanded that I ask you to share what it was like being outnumbered on grounds of gender and what enabled you to get through and then later get encouraged to undertake training as an officer at Duntroon?

    You've had various roles as quartermaster, what is it, in layperson's terms because to the best of my knowledge it was the person responsible for making sure supplies got to where they're needed?

    To get a sense of why RSL clubs and services are so important, I think us lay people need to remember the extremes service people are exposed to. Sometimes this is combat but at other times it is the aftermath of combat and atrocities and just squalid conditions. Would you mind just painting a picture or two of the conditions you and your fellow service people experienced when you were among the first to arrive in East Timor in 1999?

    You're on the record discussing the difficulties you faced in adjusting back to civilian life but it seems that your involvement in this RSL club has not only been good for you but also good for the club. Can you take us through the club's resurrection over the past 10 years, and then we'll look at some of the services.

    What keeps you going? What feedback do you get?

    Can we be part of it - non service people?

    Is there any protocol to follow? I spoke at a Mess In night for the RAAF at Edinburgh a few years ago and I had 17 pages of protocol to read, including the Passing Of The Port.

    00:51:20 Deb Herring

    A theme of the conversation with our previous guest, Meredith Burgess, will also run through our next chat. That theme is the human drive to build community even amid change. This is given great focus in the lives of Australian Defence Force personnel because they are posted to different locations with great frequency, having to pull up roots and replant them over and over again. Deborah Herring has lived that life when she was in the army - twice. She's now living and working in the Barossa working as Chair and Editor of The Top Ender Tri-Services Magazine (which is a magazine for service personnel and veterans) while also running an events and tourism business, Barossa Fun Factory.

    Deb, you're settled in the Barossa now. I assume that's better than being moved about all the time, but what's it really like because us humans learn to adapt. Is it a challenge to learn to be in one place?

    How much did you move about in the Army?

    What do "relationships" look like in the defence force? Is it hard to build friendships or do you get better at bonding faster?

    What happens if the team on a particular deployment is not ideal?

    Meredith Burgess mentioned she felt quite lost when she left the Army. What was your experience?

    Your work with The Top Ender seems to be driven by a fire in your belly to give veterans a sense of connection. What fuels that fire?

    What sort of stories do you cover?

    At first look, nothing seems further from being in the defence force than running a company called Barossa Fun Factory. But there is some shared DNA, isn't there, because you talk a lot about your pop up events and corporate workshops as not only creating a sense of fun but deeply building connections between participants?

    What were the first things you ran?

    Are there regular events for kids?

    Halloween is just ahead of us at the time of recording. Special calendar events get you springing into action, don't they?

    You have run some successful corporate events, too, that have a bit if "kid's fun" to them. Talk us through an example and how it's linked to greater team engagement?

    And with Xmas upon us, I want to finish on something I think is excellent. You stage events called Mingle Bells, which transform the typically awkward or sometimes drunken company christmas event into a time of real connection.

    Finally, Remebrance Day is upon us. Is that a significant day for you, or is Anzac Day stronger. What do these days mean to you?

    01:26:43 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is Shake A Leg Like Elvis by Dino Jag.

    Given that Elvis did his time in the Army, it's only fair we feature a tribute to him by our own Dino Jag, on this pre-Remembrance Day episode.

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  • This year, Davine Productions turns 10 years old and is celebrating with a production of the musical, A New Brain. The brain, heart, and sould behind Davine Productions is David Gauci, and he's our guest today.

    The SA Drink Of The Week in from Yalumba - The Signature. This is partly because the wine is superb but also because Yalumba has long been a supporter of Davine Productions. And we'll be joined in the tasting by winemaker, Kevin Glastonbury.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Kaurna Cronin has a new song out and it's made itself into an ear worm, competing with the soundtrack of A New Brain!

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    Running Sheet: Davine Intervention In Adelaide Theatre00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:03:09 SA Drink Of The Week

    2019 Yalumba The Signature.

    One of the signaturies of the 49th vintage of The Signature, is red winemaker at Yalumba, Kevin Glastonbury. He sits down to taste the wine with Steve Davis, as part of Yalumba's ongoing support of the arts through Davine Productions.

    00:41:29 David Gauci, Davine Productions

    In 2013, the same year The Adelaide Show began, David Gauci put his roots down in Adelaide and started the theatre company, Davine Productions. Prior to this and alongside this, he has had a 25+ year career in professional theatre, as well as being a teacher to countless performers in a number of colleges and institutions including the University of Adelaide Elder Conservatorium. At the time of recording, in October 2023, Davine's about to open a production of A New Brain. This is a delightfully quirky musical that twists left and right in surprising ways and bestows upon us such unexpected rhymes like: If you make me cry, Then I’ll probably have to kill you, I will you, know.

    Learn more about Davine Productions and get tickets here. October 13-21, 2023, Star Theatres, Sir Donald Bradman Drive.

    David, we'll come back to A New Brain but while we're on the topic of lyrics, do you have some favourite ones from the show?

    I almost tripped over on the beach today when I heard the lyric in the "children's" song that went:
    Or when someone says,
    “Would you like to lose your virginity?”
    Someone with who you have
    No affinity

    We just celebrated 10 years of The Adelaide Show and its reason for existance which was, initially, to fight the lazy way people used to use Adelaide as the butt of jokes for being boring. And yet, there you were, also in 2013, launching a not-for-profit, non-professional theatre company in Adelaide, with exceedingly high standards and backed by the likes of a broadway composer, a former director of the Sydney Theatre Company, a former head of acting at NIDA, and a much-loved national celebrity with multiple logies to his name. Can you share with us the moment when Davine Productions materialised and the importance of it being in Adelaide?

    How do you maintain the high standard of excellence that Davine Productions is known for because in a professional company you have a big stick - you can dock someone's pay or fire them. But in community theatre, we all need each other. What's your secret?

    There is much said about humans becoming more selfish and closed these days, so over the past 10 years, has that impact shifted your approach to finding humans who are willing to "give it their all" for the love of performing, when it's tempting to stay home and coccoon?

    I've seen (and reviewed) a couple of your shows - Beautiful, The Carole King Musical, and Summer Of 69 - how do you go about selecting shows for Davine Productions? What do you look for?

    What is the message or feeling you want the audience to walk away with from a Davine Productions show?

    On the Adelaide Show, we've previously discussed the profound impact that teachers can have on us (especially in episode 291 in which my daughter, AJ, interviews two important teachers in her life, Kaye and Jenny), so, I'm curious to know which of the three teachers during your primary years had the greatest impact: Sr Carmel with her piano lessons and theory, Mrs Mulvahill with her elocution lessons, or Mrs Tilley and her singing lessons?

    How does your role as a teacher at the University of Adelaide Elder Conservatorium influence your work at Davine Productions?

    Davine is, of course, the feminine of David but it also means Beloved. That makes it a great name for a theatre company. But it also sounds a little like Divine. I'd love to learn more about your adventure at a seminary, studying theology. Why did you do it, what made you leave?

    David, it's fair to say you and I both love musical theatre but what's your definition of what is "good" musical theatre?

    I love Les Mis, My Fair Lady, Urine Town, The Producers, Superstar, Fiddler On The Roof, anything by Stephen Sondheim, but despise Phantom Of The Opera. There's a delicate balance in the recipe - nourishing melodies, clever word play, a story line that primes us for emotion or farce or both. Do you agree?

    Your new production is, A New Brain, with music and lyrics by William Finn, inspired by Finn's own experience with an arteriovenous malformation and the healing power of art. Can you set it up for us?

    01:37:44 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is Eraser by Kaurna Cronin.

    Eraser is a great concept for a song, when someone is the ink unto your paper. Try as you like, you can't erase them.

    It just shows Kaurna is still on form and there are many comments in his online places of people saying the song is now stuck in their heads.

    David, is that the sign of a great song - generally, let alone in musical theatre?

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  • It's interesting that Australia is poised to vote on giving First Nationsl people a voice to parliament, but for many of us we are not familiar with the voices around us. How many of us know our neighbours or interact regularly with people in our community, stopping for a chat and a shared experience?

    In this episode, our political pundit, Robert Godden returns to "read the tea leaves" of where Australia is at regarding voter intention for the October 14, 2023, referendum. This segment will either age really well or age really poorly.

    Then, we hear a number of voices from people who have gathered at the weekly, Friday night, open mic evenings at Carob and Hare in the main street of Kanmantoo. The Carob business owners and curator of these community events, Donna Twycross, takes Steve on a journey through Carob, and then expands on her vision for regular community nights at her venue. We also hear from Stevie Ray Wonder (MC for the Friday night events), Kathryn and Peter Roberts (local residents), and Garry Duncan (artist).

    The SA Drink Of The Week in this episode is a Gipsie Jack Cabernet from Langhorne Creek.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, our featured artist is another performer from Carob and Hare, Rod Mitchell, who is one half of the collaboation, BW4.

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

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    Running Sheet: The Voice And The Voices: From The Referendum To Community Friday Nights At Kanmantoo

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:04:41 SA Drink Of The Week

    2019 Gipsie Jack Cabernet.

    This wine is the "house red" at Carob and Hare and is an intriguing drop, over-delivering on value with every sip.

    00:08:54 Robert Godden and The Voice Referendum

    Our political commentator, Robert Godden, joins Steve to read the tea leaves of where Australia is at as it approaches the October 14, 2023, referendum on The Voice.

    00:39:44 Donna Twycross, Carob and Hare, and the people and performers of Kanmantoo

    Every Friday night from 5.30-ish until 9-ish, locals and visitor amble in to Carob and Hare on the main street of Kanmantoo, to eat simple food, have a drink, and either listen to or perform music (or both), with an environment of inclusive warmth.

    The mystical and energetic conjurer of this gathering is the owner of Carob and Hare, Donna Twycross. Donna fell in love with carob when she was in her teens because it tasted great (to her) and met her needs of being a healthy addition to her diet.

    Today, she produces Hare Balls and other treats using locally grown carob, from our friends Michael and Jam Jolley at The Australian Carob Co. in Booborowie, South Australia.

    As you'll hear in the discussion, carob is a sweet edible pod that comes from the carob tree. It's been cultivated for over 4000 years and if you get good pods, it tastes very good. That wasn't Steve's experience growing up, but Donna helps put that into perspective.

    Aside from her carob business, Donna explains the rationale for the weekly community gatherings she hosts, as well as special, monthly, Saturday night themed events. She also shares a sneak peek into her new, Sunday afternoon events themed around Alice in Wonderland, should you happen to visit Kanmantoo from mid-October onwards.

    In this chat we also meet Stevie Ray Wonder (not his real name, but all will be explained), who has fallen into the role of MCing and stage managing the Friday night events.

    We also meet locals, Kathryn and Peter Roberts. They moved here many years ago and have reflections to share, including some from Peter who has been driving the school bus for a long time, watching kids grow as he gets them from point A to point B.

    Finally, we chat with artist, Garry Duncan. Garry is another local and a regular and his artwork not only adorns boardrooms around the world, silos around South Australia, and a variety of galleries everywhere, but it hangs in pride of place around Carob and Hare.​

    01:42:01 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is Plague Of Monsters by BW4.

    BW4 is a partnership between Steve Hearne and Rod Mitchell. Rob Performed at Carob and Hare, despite being a long way from his hometown of Andamooka (which is a hefty stone's throw from another source of opals, Coober Pedy, which recently featured on The Adelaide Show).

    BW4 is named after a redundant microwave tower on the Stuart Highway just south of Pimba because Rod was fascinated by Central Australian deserts and disputed Australian History.

    That note makes this song more relevant than ever because The Voice debate has seemed to release angels as well as monsters as people reflect on what the referendum is all about.

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  • We round off our month of Tuesdays to mark 10 years of The Adelaide Show with a nostalgia panel, featuring Colin Richard, Brett Monten, and one of our most loved guests, Don Violi - hairdresser to the stars!

    Much is covered and discussed, from the emergence of Rundle Mall to the making of Sunday Too Far Away, from Bazz and Pilko causing mayhem at 5AD to the Clifton Pugh nude Adam and Eve stobie pole controversy.

    There SA Drink Of The Week in this episode is a Portagaff, and we even attempt recreating the famous jingle.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Courtney Robb is our featured artist.

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: [email protected]

    If you enjoy the show, please leave us a 5-star review in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store - The Adelaide Show Shop. We'd greatly appreciate it.

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    page

    Running Sheet: Adelaide Remembers Nostalgia With Don Violi

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:03:23 SA Drink Of The Week

    Classic beverages - West End, Southwark, Coopers (including those Portagaf ads - I plan to bring some stout and lemonade to make some as our drink of the week)

    Finbarr who is a member of the BigFooty community made some interesting comments about the Coopers Portagaff ad.
    "Coopers Stout and lemonade
 mix ‘em up, you’ll be amazed. That’s a Portagaff you’ve made, with Coopers Stout and lemonade...."
    I know it particularly well because it was my dads best friend and my godfather who starred in the ad and sang the jingle. (Don Barker. Aka Detective Sgt Harry White in Homicide.)
    I wish that ad was on YouTube. He sang one verse in a manly voice dressed in manly clothes, the next in a falsetto voice and a white suit, then they had the split screen of the two singing a duet.

    David Fuller was the ad man responsible for the Portagaff ad. According to SA Life: The ad for Coopers Stout and lemonade — “mix them up, you’ll be amazed” — was a stick-in-your-head jingle that was another of Fuller’s early efforts. It was recorded for a cost of $720 and ran for six or seven years.

    00:26:59 Nostalgia Discussion

    Topics for discussion:

    Don Violi on cutting Don Dunstan's hair (along with commentary about hairdressing icons of Adelaide, and his work cutting Jack Thompson's hair along with other cast members of Sunday Too Far Away)

    The Clifton Pugh stobie pole controversy - nude Adam and Eve at Don's new hair salon in the 80s - got worldwide coverage and Don Dunstan opened it

    Opening of Rundle Mall, and the redirection of traffic away from Devil's Elbow

    The restaurant explosion - move away from buffets and dinner dances (Hilton with Cheong Liew, the revolving restaurant, Chloes, Don Giovanni, even a naughty one I remember)

    Birdman Rally, Soapbox Derby

    Bazz and Pilko (some of their hijinks)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pgu7-rCLyk

    Touch Of Elegance

    Pat Davies Figurama Slimming Salon (and other fashion/fad icons)

    01:26:11 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is Reckless Moment by Courtney Robb.

    This song was chosen by Brett Monten and Steve waxes lyrical about Courtney's wonderful musical gifts.

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  • During the second year of The Adelaide Show podcast, the lineup transitions from a trio of hosts to an interview format with one main guest and two hosts. Nigel Dobson became the permanent co-host, along with Steve Davis.

    In this time, the podcast had some wonderful innovations from Nigel, not least of which was the Is It News segment, and a decision to hold topics to a high standard of requiring an evidence-base.

    There is no SA Drink Of The Week in this episode, although we do sip on a 2018 Highbank Coonawarra Cabernet Sauvignon during recording.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, John Schumann joins Steve to talk about his remake of I Was Only 19 with The Waifs.

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: [email protected]

    If you enjoy the show, please leave us a 5-star review in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store - The Adelaide Show Shop. We'd greatly appreciate it.

    And please talk about us and share our episodes on social media, it really helps build our community. Oh, and here's our index of all episode in one concise page

    Running Sheet: The Adelaide Show Podcast Nigel Style With John Schumann

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:13:55 SA Drink Of The Week

    No segment this episode.

    00:02:59 Nigel Dobson

    In episode 5, Nigel Dobson filled in for Colin Richard, who was on the sicklist. Little did we know that he was to become a regular "fill in" and then come on board full time as a co-host for 250+ episodes.

    In this retrospective episode, Nigel and Steve reminisce on the different topics and challenges, as well as share some observations of life in South Australia today.

    01:29:57 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is I Was Only 19 by John Schumann and The Waifs.

    This 40th anniversary remake might owe its existence to a bizarre historical accident. As John says, "when I wrote about Redgum bootlegs in "I've been to Bali too", the Waifs hadn't even formed. 40 years later, we get to collaborate on a re-imagining of "I was only 19". It might not have happened if Vikki and Donna didn't get to pick up a bootleg copy in Bali."

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  • The Adelaide Show podcast began in 2013 with a mission: to challenge the notion that Adelaide is boring. This special episode is a reunion of the three founders, Steve Davis, Colin Richard, and Brett Monten.

    "I remember meeting Colin Richard sharing our frustration at the lazy jokes by comedians on the eastern seaboard about how boring Adelaide was," recalls podcast co-founder, Steve Davis. "We decided to start a podcast and name it after the Redgum song, One More Boring Thursday Night In Adelaide, as an ironic counter attack."

    Another Boring Thursday Night In Adelaide was launched on August 29, 2013, and one of the first segments was called The Adelaide Visa Council, in which the podcasters read out tweets by users who referenced Adelaide being boring. The "evidence" was discussed and if the offending tweets were deemed unfounded, the trio revoked the Twitter (now X) user's Adelaide visa, and let them know.

    "Those who fell foul of our deliberations would often engage in discussion and most of the time they recanted their allegations and had their visas restored, including a former leader of the Adelaide United cheer squad, who was terribly apologetic."

    Early features included regular segments on health (the Made to Move Minute with exercise physiologist Max Martin), and news (headline highlights by InDaily's David Washington).

    Its early, conversational format transformed to a structured, long form interview program by episode 80, at which time it rebadged as The Adelaide Show, having taken credit for reducing online slurs against Adelaide.

    The SA Drink Of The Week is a 2016 Highbank Coonawarra Cabernet Sauvignon.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Ben Searcy and his haunting song, Wangary.

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: [email protected]

    If you enjoy the show, please leave us a 5-star review in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store - The Adelaide Show Shop. We'd greatly appreciate it.

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    Running Sheet: Another Boring Thursday Night In Adelaide 10th Birthday

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:03:11 Colin, Brett, and Steve

    In mid-2013, I spoke with Colin about starting a podcast. And he said yes. Shortly thereafter, I spoke to Brett, and he said yes. The driving themes for me were frustration over the lazy, unfunny jokes and barbs that interstaters and some locals made about Adelaide being boring, a desperate need I had to get out of the rut of working seven days a week, and my unquenchable love for the art of radio. It's now 10 years later and we've got the band back together.

    What were your reasons, Colin and Brett?

    00:13:55 SA Drink Of The Week

    We have a special wine this episode, the 2016 Highbank Coonawarra Cabernet Sauvignon.

    As you'll hear, it is a sibling of the first wine we tried on our first episode in 2013, the Highbank Coonawarra Family Reserve 2004 (ep 1, The Three Kinsmen).

    How did toasting Queen Adelaide come about?

    00:17:01 Colin, Brett, and Steve

    The reunion interview continues ...

    What were your reasons, Colin and Brett?

    The theme song?

    It launched in episode 11.

    Uncle Colin's Remembering Adelaide.

    The Roma cinema was one (ep 1, The Three Kinsmen)

    The Adelaide Visa Council.

    Craig Mitchell, a Uniting Church minister who was on our first Christmas episode (number 17, The Nigel Before Xmas), shared this update from Melbourne during the week:

    Me talking to oven repair guy today.
    Me: We've been over in Adelaide buying a house that we'll eventually retire in.
    Him: Right. Adelaide would be a great place to retire.
    Me: We like it a lot. We like Melbourne too of course.
    Him: I was born in Adelaide.
    Me: Really?
    Him: Yeah, but I had to get out of there. It was dead boring.
    Me: .....

    Stories From The Street.

    Catherine Lambert was one (ep 16, Local Trash Syndrome)

    Interviews:

    The Polly Waffle (ep 43 The Adelaide Polly Waffle)

    Annabel Crabb, Martin Hamilton-Smith, Stephen Yarwood, Don Violi

    Our show titles. Any favourites?

    066 - Of News Readers And Tea Ladies
    November 27, 2014

    065 – Adelaide Undressed
    November 20, 2014

    061 – Surreal Adelaide
    October 23, 2014

    053 – The Adelaide Pie Floater 1st Birthday Show
    August 28, 2014

    047 – Adelaide: City Of Cars And Donuts?
    July 17, 2014

    039 – Don Dunstan And Gay Adelaide
    May 22, 2014

    034 – The Adelaide Ring Monopoly
    April 17, 2014

    033 – Deconstructing The Adelaide Yo Yo Biscuit
    April 10, 2014

    Episode 014 – Lucy On The Skype With Diamonds
    November 28, 2013

    Episode 012: Of Kings And Wangs
    November 14, 2013

    Episode 010: You Are God’s Toilet
    October 31, 2013

    Episode 008: Look At My Freckle
    October 17, 2013

    01:52:54 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is Wangary by Ben Searcy.

    It was written by Ben in response to him being a cameraman during the Wangary bushfires.

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  • The Adelaide Show Podcast began life as Another Boring Thursday Night In Adelaide 10 Years Ago

    Tonight, to mark our 10th birthday, we chat with special guest, Owen Eastwood, who helps us reflect on the deeper theme of Belonging, which is something at the core of what this podcast is all about. This has been a community-focussed endeavour and Owen manages to highlight its structure and set out some principles for starting or strengthening your own community.

    The SA Drink Of The Week is a special bottle from 2016.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Suedan takes us along Route 31.

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: [email protected]

    If you enjoy the show, please leave us a 5-star review in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store - The Adelaide Show Shop. We'd greatly appreciate it.

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    Running Sheet: Reflecting On 10 Years Of Adelaide Show Podcast Community With Owen Eastwood

    00:00:00 Intro

    Here's the plan for our 10th birthday Month Of Episodes.

    Tonight, it's Owen Eastwood.

    Next Tuesday night, we will release our first Retrospective episode with the boys who created our original manifestation of Another Boring Thursday Night In Adelaide.

    The following Tuesday night, the second Restrospective episode will feature Nigel Dobson.

    And the final Retrospective will feature Adelaide hairdresser and trivia extraordinaire, Don Violi.

    At the time of recording, the current wording on the homepage of our website distills the meaningful, human insights that Owen Eastwood shares in his work. It reads:

    Welcome to The Adelaide Show podcast community. You are not alone.

    There are hundreds of fellow South Australians awaiting you in our episodes. Have a listen. Many of them will inspire you to continue (or discover) an endeavour that fulfills you.

    We have a great community here in South Australia. While it’s not perfect, it has sustained many people to build connections and follow passions in ways have enabled our state to punch above its weight on the world stage.

    But as Dr Jane Goodall said back in episode 42, the best way to make our world a better place is to start with the square metre you’re standing on, and build from there.

    To help you find “your people”, we’ve sorted our episodes into categories. If you browse the list below you’ll be able to start with themes and topics closer to your heart.

    That said, in the process of putting the passion of South Australia on centre stage, we uncover some surprising people an insights, so we also encourage you to chance your arm and listen to some random episodes. It might just be what you needed to hear.

    If this is your first listen. Welcome. I hope you enjoy this and feel encouraged to explore other episodes, as well as let friends know about The Adelaide Show. If you're a regular, thank you very very much. Knowing you are there and occasionally hearing from you is a very important part of a community endeavour like this.

    It's been hard work, but it's been an absolute joy, and it has introduced me to many many people and places throughout South Australia. There's more where they came from. How much longer will this continue? I do not know. But for now, I intend to keep making every conversation count and I will continue to be grateful for every minute you let me put the passion of South Australia on centre stage.

    00:08:37 SA Drink Of The Week

    We have a special wine this episode, the 2016 Zema Estate Cabernet Sauvignon.

    It's special because one of my fondest memories was the road trip Nigel Dobson and I took down to Mount Gambier to record a special interview with Maria and Walter from Caffe Belgiorno. On that night, we drank the same wine, but it was a 2012.

    You can relive that night, here: Episode 139, Mount Gambier Is Noyce Ployce: Stories From Caffe Belgiorno.

    00:14:21 Belonging with Owen Esastwood

    Owen Eastwood is an author and performance coach, among other things, who happens to be a New Zealander of Māori descent. He works with some of the world’s leading athletes, sporting teams, business leaders, entrepreneurs and performing artists. Over summer, I read his book, Belonging, The Ancient Code of Togetherness, and it has profoundly impacted my life, not least for Owen's engaging description of Whakapapa, a Māori idea which embodies our universal human need to belong. They say hindsight is 20:20 vision and as I look back on 10 years of creating my passion project, The Adelaide Show, I can't help be think I've missed the bullseye of making something truly grounded in community. To that end, I'm honoured to have Owen on the line from the UK to distill his concepts of Community and Belonging, and hopefully tease out some approaches to grounding this, or any future projects, more squarely within one's community.

    Owen, I truly recommend our listeners to read your book, Belonging, but for the purposes of this interview, I fear I need to ask you to help define a few terms and lay some foundations.

    The first is a definition of Whakapapa.

    The second is that moment when you became aware of the power of being told, you belong.

    In your book, your sports stories are superb but working with the commanders of NATO was a really grounding way of applying your approach to community. Can you explain what you did with them and what impact it had?

    How do you define the human urge to belong? I think you gave it great context in the sandpaper affair when Australia played South Africa in test cricket?

    How aware or ignorant are we of our need to belong, especially in light of Prof Anna Lembke's book, Dopamine Nation, in which she says we have pleasure on tap. Is that numbing our awareness?

    How did you interpret the more recent controversy of Australia's wicketkeeper, Carey, stumping or running out England's Bairstow?

    I am watching the women's FIFA world cup. I get a strong sense that the Matilda's seem to have some bond that seems more than just wanting to win for a team. What signs do you look for through the filter of Whakapapa or community?

    Now, the big question for The Adelaide Show.

    I feel like I have glanced the surface of community. What questions, what thinking, what conversations can help ground a community endeavour?

    00:58:09 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is La La by Suedan.

    Suedan is a dynamic blues and roots duo formed in 2016 by Sue and Dan, two talented musicians with a passion for creating soul-stirring music. Dan’s mesmerizing vocals and intricate cigarbox guitar skills come together harmoniously ,while the rhythmic beats of the cajon add depth to their sound. With their heartfelt storytelling and electrifying performances ,SUEDAN has captivated audiences and established themselves as a force to be reckoned with in the blues music scene. Their unique blend of traditional blues with a modern twist sets them apart and leaves a lasting impression on anyone who has the pleasure of experiencing their music.

    Route 31 Coastal Drive takes in the 31kms of our beautiful coastline (yes, you guessed it, that’s the connection to the name), from O’Sullivan Beach to Sellicks Beach and everywhere in between. From holiday favourites to hidden gems, this stunning stretch of coastline is a must visit for your next road trip.

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  • Do you have books in your home or workplace? And, perhaps more importantly, do you read any of them? Our guest today, Rainer Jozeps, says the presence of books is a symbol of your curiosity and your interest in engaging with the world (my words). However, that utterance was a small park of a bigger issue he drew attention to in In Review, namely, our state government’s dropping of the ball (so to speak), when it comes to arts funding vs sports funding.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, thoughtful singer/songwriter, Lucas Day.

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We’re here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It’s an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we’ll add you to the list: [email protected]

    If you enjoy the show, please leave us a 5-star review in iTunes or other podcast sites, or buy some great merch from our Red Bubble store – The Adelaide Show Shop. We’d greatly appreciate it.

    And please talk about us and share our episodes on social media, it really helps build our community. Oh, and here’s our index of all episode in one concise page

    Running Sheet: Rainer Jozeps In The House With No Books

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

    No SA Drink Of The Week this episode.

    00:02:32 Rainer Jozeps

    Books on bookshelves, news avoidance, ignorance, cocooning, and art making. These five topics were woven into an intriguing piece in InReview by Rainer Jozeps, entitled, South Australia Has Become Like A House With No Books. Rainer has been involved in Australia’s arts industry for more 30 years, holding senior executive roles with the Australian Elizabethan Theatre Trust, Adelaide Festival Centre, West Australian Ballet, Australian Dance Theatre and Adelaide Symphony Orchestra.

    Rainer, I’d like to use your article to give structure to this conversation, even though I’m anticipating that we will do an awful lot of colouring outside the lines.

    Your article begins by recounting your many visits to display homes to sate your curiosity about what was being offered by builders, noting that you’d leave with an empty feeling in the pit of your stomach because the homes had no provision for books. You then quote Greek philosopher, Cicero, who said “a house with no books is like a body with no soul”. I’d like to explore this a little because my initial reaction was to cheer your claim that “books inspire creativity, excite the imagination and stimulate the intellect”, but then I realised that I have a wall or two of books at home and many have not been touched for years. Do you think there’s intrinsic value in “the having of books” or are you assuming that those with books actually read them?

    Does the presence of books create a more thoughtful headspace?David Olney noted that seeing books can spark conversation. Our books are on our phones – perhaps our screens could run slideshows?Russ Roberts from the Econtalk Podcast says if we read a book a week, we’ll probably read about 2,500 books in our lifetime. That’s not many. Are there any you believe are a must – either by title or genre?

    The next theme in your article is ignorance, defined as the lack of knowledge. You argue ignorance can be a chosen state (you realise other people know things you don’t know), or it can simply be that you are unaware of there being things you don’t know. You note that ethicists call the former “recognised ignorance” and the latter “primary ignorance”. This drew recollections of the Johari Window but also the toxic saturation of conspiracy theories that thrive in this Donal Trump-led era of Fake News. Setting aside mainstream news consumption for the moment, are you hopeful or pessimistic about our society’s chances of shaking free from this almost ubiquitous, heavy veil of ignorance?

    I sense there are First Principles at plan here. No matter how deep the proliferation social media, if we all chose to take heed of Socrates’ dictim, that “the unexamined life is not worth living,” we might create space between hearing things and reacting to them. Do we need meditation before education?I did talkback radio for a number of years and I was always dumbfounded by vocal callers who robustly stated their position on anything you put in front of them, within a millisecond. My intuition would suggest their arguments were flawed, but I always needed more time and openness from them to investigate what their beliefs were based on. Needless to say, they were never open to that. Have you mixed with such people. Have you developed any strategies, not to trick them, but to engage them in reflection?And how important is it to actually challenge bad, stereotypical ideas? I ask this because psychologist and writer Adam Mastroianni has eloquently argued on Econtalk that, “our minds are like the keep of a castle protecting our deepest held values and beliefs from even the most skilled attacks. The only problem with this design for self-preservation is that it also can keep out wisdom that might be both useful and true.” He says there is little to do to change people’s minds; you can’t access our brains through our ears. Your thoughts?

    The third theme is the link between ignorance and “news avoidance”. What is news avoidance and what do we know about it?

    I am a former journalist and I get news from a glance through the ABC app, a longer dwell time on the Al Jazeera app, occasional reads of the Ukraine independent app which I subscrib to, Zaborona, and the In Daily newsletter when I see it. That keeps me abreast of most timely stories but for “colour, as I confessed to Peter Greste, I now get my news “sense” from news satire shows like The Bugle, Mad As Hell (when it was on, even though writer David M Green says they didn’t think they were fulfilling such an important role), and comedic articles by The Chaser. By being prepared to describe the context of a story and then shout convincingly that the emperor has no clothes, they keep tabs on those in power. How would you define me on the news consumer to news avoider continuum? And where do you sit?The fourth estate has abdicated its responsibility. Peter Greste shared first hand how newsroom editors measure “success” by likes, instead of the important measure of editorial value. Your thoughts?

    The fourth theme is cocooning and I confess, I might be in that category. I quote: “Cocooning” is a middle-class phenomenon coined by US futurist Faith Popcorn, who predicted large swathes of the community would, in fear of an ever-changing outside world, equip their residences with entertainment rooms, streaming services, security systems and perimeter walls, and utilise ever more home delivery services. And now we want to work from home! What’s wrong with this picture?

    I have worked from home for almost 20 years and I do everything I can to avoid driving in peak hour, if at all. I was in LA a week or two before Covid and the multi-lane highways were a non-stop channel of filth and waste and exhaust. Come Covid, they became almost deserted and peaceful, and air quality improved. Are there not good things about working from home?Going out necessitates a place to congregate with others and bars, cafes, and restaurants typically fill that need. But in an article in 2020, you lamented the noisy architecture of our eateries, where you have to shout to be heard. A client and friend of mine, Laura Drexler, has started a site called, Ambient Menu, where people can review eateries on their level of noise. Is this the other half of the deadly duo strangling social cohesion; crappy, selfish, dumbed down media and news, coupled with venues that encourage consumption and monosylabic conversations?

    The final theme in your article is art making. You lament our State’s reduction in art funding, especially compared to its increased funding of sporting events. I quote: “The arts in South Australia are woefully underfunded relative to other states. From 2017-2022, states and territories cumulatively increased arts funding by 22 per cent, while SA was the only state to head in the opposite direction, reducing funding by 9 per cent over the same period.” I think we can accept the funding figures as fact, so let’s look at your underlying reason for frustration here, you state: Our civic life needs thriving cultural institutions to counter ignorance and intolerance. How is that so?

    I have seen some wonderful, thought-provoking theatre that had potential to counter ignorance and intolerance, but it it seen by a select few who can afford $50+ a ticket and who are primarily people from the chattering, enlightened classes who are already doing their best to stay informed and engaged. What is the value of our State Theatre putting on worthy pieces, society-improving pieces, if only the tiniest morsel of the community can see them?At the end of every episode since 2013, we have said goodnight to Don Dunstan, to honour his legacy as a Premier who stirred things up and got our kitchen cooking (literally). In a stirring piece you wrote in 2o16, Inauthentic “vibrancy” is damaging SA’s shrinking arts sector, you lamented then Premier Jay Weatherill’s dropping of the ball (so to speak) in reducing arts funding. There are many buzzwords in art but especially in politics and “vibrancy” is one, along with “activation”. What have you noticed about governnment support for the arts from Weatherill to Marshall to Malinauskas?Some of the events receiving money at the moment, most likely at the expense of arts, include Liv Golf, the AFL’s Gather Round, and bidding for next year’s Netball grand final. Do you think these events are intrinsically unworthy of funding?Our guest, next week, for our 10th birthday episode is New Zealander, Owen Eastwood, who has written a beautiful book about Belonging, drawing on many principles and insights of his Maori culture. He has noted that the communal act of following a team and “being there” every week is actually good for the spirit and the soul. Have you ever partaken in such a thing as “following a team”? And is there something from this dynamic that we can learn from in The Arts?I am part of a netball family. My wife coaches three teams and both my daughters play in two teams apiece. It has a strong web of grassroots involvement and is a crucial part of holding many regional communities together. Could there ever be an Arts alternative?

    Your words to our government and us?

    00:53:22 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is Intuition by Lucas Day.

    Guided by what’s left unsaid
    Tempted to put my trust in it
    Succumb
    To intuition
    Led by instincts rarely wrong
    Held by hands with a mind of their own
    Succumb
    To intuition
    Let your soul fly free
    Your desire run wild
    You got nowhere else to be
    Than in the shared state of mind
    Succumb
    To intuition
    Down that deep end is where I belong
    Getting used to that sweet unknown
    Succumb
    To intuition
    Let your soul fly free
    Your desire run wild
    You got nowhere else to be
    Than in the shared state of mind
    Succumb
    To intuition
    Succumb
    To intuition

    And here’s a slice from his Facebook page with his busy schedule:

    why am I so happy?1st Sept BAND GIGplaying @fatcontrollerclub for the first time with @ebonyemili and @travcollinsmusic on the lineup8th Sept ONE MAN BAND GIGreturning to the @lovethegov stage supporting @noasis_official with @dumb_whales1st Oct ONE MAN BAND GIGventuring to the @terminushotelstrath supporting @bekjensenmusic for her album launch tour28th Oct BAND GIGhitting up the @spacejamsfest stage for @fleurieufolkfestthat’s why!so grateful to be able to share my music with the world and meet so many awesome people stay brightLD x

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  • Trevor Pomery has put plenty of snap, crackle, and pop, into the world of FMCG or Fast Moving Consumer Goods - the kinds of products we buy regularly at supermarkets. Today, upon his retirement, we look back on his journey through the supermarket aisles of marketing and get some insights into how THEY make US buy their products, and why we LOVE it.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, LJ and The Reckless Horns.

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    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

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    Running Sheet: Trevor Pomery Retires With Golden North 100 Not Out

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

    No SA Drink Of The Week this episode.

    00:03:09 Trevor Pomery

    Trevor Pomery retires today as Director of Marketing and Export for Golden North Ice Cream. His career has spanned many loved and popular products, ranging from those intriguing Kelloggs Variety Packs, to Farmers Union Iced Coffee, to South Australia's beloved Golden North Ice Cream.

    Get ready to never walk down a supermarket aisle in the same way again.

    01:03:44 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is I Don't Know What Love Is from the debut album of LJ and The Reckless Horns.

    Of course, LJ has been making music for a long time, but this new collaboration is promising to chill you to the bone with its eclectic collection of cool grooves, where chilled out jazz meets funky rhythms, punctuated with sublime horn arrangements.

    The ‘Official Album Launch’ will be on Sunday 10 September 2023 6:30 PM - 9:00 PM at Norwood Live, Norwood Hotel (Function Centre), 97 The Parade, Norwood South Australia 5067.

    Doors open 6.30pm
    Music starts 7pm
    Meals and drinks available
    Plenty of car parking around the venue

    Click here, noting: Limited tickets available.

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  • Unearthed Australian Opal is set to make opal industry history with an unprecedented event, Unearthing Opal Live. This groundbreaking occasion brings together live opal mining and a simultaneous auction of any rough opal discovered during the event. Taking place on August 2, Unearthing Opal Live will be a thrilling 3.5-hour live stream from an opal mine in Coober Pedy, the renowned Opal Capital Of The World. And the Adelaide Show has the inside scoop with tonight's guests.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Slava and Leonard Grigoryan.

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    Running Sheet: Unearthing Opal Love From Coober Pedy

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

    No SA Drink Of The Week this episode.

    00:02:28 Dan Measey, Renee Everest, Chris Warman

    Opal enthusiasts and collectors around the globe will witness a world-first as Unearthing Opal Live combines the captivating elements of real-time opal mining with the excitement of a live auction. This unique event allows viewers to watch the mining process unfold before their eyes, ask questions about the process, and bid on the gems as they are unearthed, creating an unparalleled opportunity to acquire opals with genuine provenance.

    However, Unearthing Opal Live is not just an event. It is a personal journey driven by the passion and expertise of its owner and founder, Dan Measey, who started prospecting in Coober Pedy when he was one year old. Dan’s fate as an opal prospector was sealed when his opal-mining father dug him a new bedroom in the family’s underground dugout home in the late 70s. The home extension yielded a blue, green, crystal opal the size of a cigarette packet worth $1500!

    While online auctions for opals are not uncommon, Unearthing Opal Live will take this experience to an entirely new level because the telecast will show opal mining in real time and enable viewers to immediately participate in a live auction to bid on the gems freshly discovered from the mine. This unique combination of mining and auction provides an exclusive opportunity to own opals with a direct connection to the source.

    As Dan says, "this will be the closest thing to experiencing real mining because viewers will share the anticipation that accompanies prospecting. They’ll share in the thrill of not knowing whether any opal will be found, mirroring the experience we have every day as we explore our claim."

    You can read more on the Unearthed Australian Opal website: Unearthing Opal Live.

    The livestream is now over. This episode now includes a bonus hour of chatter from the event.

    01:49:25 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is actually an instrumental composition by Slava and Leonard Grigoryan entitled, Fred's Vision.

    Given our presence in the outback for this episode, it's a perfect opportunity to play a track inspired by Fred Hollows. Fred was an opthamologist who was inspired to restore eyesight to thousands of people in Australia and overseas. He always pushed for change and spent much of his career fighting for better access to eye health and better living conditions for Indigenous Australians.

    He was known for carrying a little wooden box full of lenses and frames and when the Grigoryan brothers saw that box, they were inspired to compose this track; Fred's Vision.

    Fred's Vision is from the Grigoryan Brother's album, This Is Us. Here is a link to the works of Slava and Leonard Grigoryan.

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  • America celebrated Independence Day earlier this week, on the Fourth of July, so while the spotlight was on the US we thought it would be the perfect time to catch up with New York-based Adelaidean, Josh Pugh aka America Josh, to get a sense of the South Australian expat community in the Big Apple as well as reflect on some comparisons between life there and here.

    The SA Drink Of The Week is a gold medal wine, the Baroota Creek 2020 Cabernet Shiraz from Flinders Run. Watch this winery. I hear stories of people buying Penfolds Grange for quite low prices before it was famous, this has the potential to be one of those wines.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Gerry Masi is back as part of Distractor Code.

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    Running Sheet: From Adelaide To The USA With Love And America Josh

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:03:53 SA Drink Of The Week

    We have two special wines this episode, the Flinders Run Baroota Creek 2020 Cabernet Shiraz and the 2021 Baroota Creek 2021.

    Flinders Run is a winery in the Southern Flinders area, run by Emanuel and Laura Skorpos. This wine has just been awarded a gold medal score of 95 by Wine Showcase Magazine.

    This special tasting was held at Enzos's Ristorante, with Emanuel and Laura (although Laura preferred to take photos and videos rather than be on microphone) and Damon Musha from Wine Australia USA.

    00:17:01 Josh Pugh, America Josh

    In 2017, Josh Pugh left what he described as a "fantastic life" in Adelaide and headed to New York to start a new life there. He handed over control of his company, sold his house, sold his car, and even gave away his cat so his odyssey could begin. Luckily for him, things have fallen into place: He found a home, a wife, and a dog, all in a matter of a few short years. However, last month, another South Australian, Fairlie Delbridge, connected with Josh at the launch of the South Australia Club in NYC, and then connected Josh with The Adelaide Show. And, as fate would have it, we're having this chat with Josh while he still has South Australia's famous Mitani chicken salt in his system.

    America Josh

    How did you get Mitani chicken salt?

    Is there a list of items or places you miss? Food items, events like Fringe?

    Are there some things you are glad to have left behind?

    Tell us about the South Australia Club in NYC. The opening was attended by Stuart Nutting, who is Austrade's Regional Director South Australia Trade and Investment, along with Trade and Investment Minister, Nick Champion. If it is anything like the Adelaide Club, the only way you get in is if you're a pastoralist, an Anglican, or you share DNA with Alexander Downer?

    We have much to unpack but we need to start with your decision to leave Adelaide. If your life was truly "fantastic", why did you leave?

    You currently run open gatherings in Central Park. Why do you do that?

    Your website says you created America Josh to help people plan to move to or settle into New York. What is involved in getting a Green Card or residency?

    You mention you were attracted by the "buzz" of New York. Something we've long argued at The Adelaide Show is that you can have a miserable boring life here or in New York; most of it depends on how proactively you are engaging with life. Firstly, has the buzz faded like the initial burst of romance in a relationship? And, secondly, can you reflect on the extrinsic and intrinsic factors that have helped you feel settled?

    What was Fourth of July like?

    Fairlie Delbridge is a mover and shaker in SA but is spending a year studing at Harvard. How have your paths crossed?

    Cricket. Was watching the other day and remember you talking fondly of cricket. Commentators were talking about timers to keep games moving at pace and how baseball now has countdown times for pitchers. I must say, I watched some baseball. It is soooooo boring. Being there is okay but, just like golf, it's not made for tv. Your thoughts?

    Also, what do you think of the stumping in the Ashes?

    I get confused with cricket umpire Steve Davis and I notice there is an English comedian, Josh Pugh. Do you ever get mis-identified?

    Who will you vote for in the elections?

    The dangers of stalking guests is that I saw a picture of you as Mrs Doubtfire. Is that a regular habit?

    Final thoughts for people thinking of moving?

    And are you encouraging Americans to move here?

    01:24:15 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is This Town by Gerry Masi under the banner of Distractor Code; his collaboration with Paul White.

    It’s all played on 80s synths with Gerry singing and, unlike the songs under his non de plume, Mad Dog Malcolm, there are no inappropriate lyrics!!!

    Given the US flavour if this episode, I should point out that This Town is not the classic Frank Sinatra song, nor is it Adelaide's version of New York New York, however, it puts Gerry's operatic power to good use and it broods with darkness and passion.

    For Josh, he'll note The Arts Theatre in the video cover image, below.

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  • How has your understanding of and relationship with Australia Day changed over time? What goes through your mind when you hear a Welcome to Country or Acknowledgment of Country? And what do you think of when you hear the term Aboriginal prosperity? These are just some of the questions touched on in this extended interview with Griefologist, Rosemary Wanganeen, who takes us on a journey towards healing by embracing grief. As you'll hear, there is important work to be done by Indigenous and Non-Indigenous Australians, and it starts with finding ways to forgive our 1788 ancestors.

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, Nataleigh shares a song produced as part of her 13-year-old songwriting competition, eMusic.

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: [email protected]

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    Running Sheet: Loss, Grief, And Forgiveness: Rosemary Wanganeen On How Indigenous And Non-Indigenous Australians Can Thrive

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

    There is no featured drink this week.

    00:03:04 Rosemary Wanganeen, The Healing Centre for Griefology

    Three weeks ago, at the end of May 2023, The Healing Centre for Griefology, shared a post that read: Did you know that 25% of Aboriginal people living in the inner city have mental health problems? We can change this - we can educate institutions and organisations about Griefology as a proven method to enact Aboriginal prosperity. It triggered an avalanche of comments like "looking for more handouts", "the solution to Aboriginal prosperity is not different to Whites - get off the grog", "easy fix, pack up the 'dilly bag' and go 'walkabout' and get out of the city, you all get paid by the government no matter where you go, and you will still get everything for nothing no matter where you go, so GET OUT OF THE CITY IF ITS MAKING YOU CRAZY". When the founder and director of the Healing Centre for Griefology, Rosemary Wanganeen, shared how much hurt this caused her team, a flood of compassion arose from many people, including me, who just couldn't process the vitriol the Centre had received. Rosemary Wanganeen Niina Marni (how are you)?

    Rosemary, you are a Griefologist, a Clinical Loss & Grief Counsellor, today I want to delve into what griefology actually is, what The Seven Phases to Integrating Loss and Grief are, and your upcoming symposium on July 7, along with some discussion of the polarising views about Australia Day, my mixed feelings about Acknowledgement Of Country rituals in some circumstances, some insights about how to approach The Voice, and the buried art of intuition. But first I want to return to those spiteful, racist messages you and your team received.

    My reaction was almost a carbon copy of everybody else's. We were staggered by the unveiled hatred. One comment from anthropologist, Sue Fraser, summed it up by saying: I am so sorry that you and your team have to deal with these comments. It is sickening and sad that people believe these things, and that they think it's okay to dump these comments on to someone like yourself who is doing such great work for Aboriginal Peoples and for the rest of us as well. Sending love and hugs Sue.

    However, I think I have a deeper understanding of what was behind those comments, now that I have spent a few weeks listening to you talk. In particular, you shine a light on the psychotic state of the 1788 arrivals, explaining that they became perpetrators of violence having been victims of a broken approach to life that disconnected them from their humanity, in a process that stretches back to Plato and even beyond.

    Can we please start here because I think your framing of this evolution might help us make sense of the macabre way Romans crucified people, the hideous human waste of The Great War, and even what’s happening today in Ukraine.

    I'd like to dwell a little longer on Australia Day. My own journey over 50 years has been one of a little bit of "rah rah", then many years of indifference (although the public holiday was gratefully received), to a stirred reflection on the "experiment" of South Australia, to growing conflict about how to process my growing understanding of some of the dark, dark stuff my ancestors did, to a point of being rather frozen now. That's why my ears priced up when you mentioned, in a recent interview, the importance of you finding a way to forgive the 1788 arrivals, and the importance of us Anglo people finding a way to forgive them, too. Can you please expand on this?

    The theme of forgiveness is key, here, but you do differentiate between grief forgiveness vs religious forgiveness. Can you explain this to me?

    This reflection on words does raise the importance of both language and the process of passing on knowledge. In Sand Talk, Tyson Yunkaporta talks about Europeans named the mountains in the east as The Great Dividing Range, even though it doesn't diving anything (it is, in fact, an song line that connects), and the coral off the east coast as the Great Barrier Reef even though it is not a barrier but in fact another song line that connects. Does this explain why there seems to be such a large gap between indigenous and non-indigenous cultures?

    Something else Tyson shares in his book is the role of passing on knowledge through stories or yarns and how written words tend to be processed in short term memory but oral stories tend to get stuck into long term memory. As part of discussing this, it also brings up themes of the characters in Aboriginal stories - people, animals, plants, and even rocks and stars. He shared a story about a magpie and a crow that is still triggered every time I see one of those birds (it was part of a story about the importance of taking the learning of knowledge seriously) but I've also heard you tell a story about a meeting with Grandfather Crow. I'd love to understand this dynamic more.

    We start our episodes with a simple acknowledgement of country and at the netball recently, there was a truly earnest and profound Welcome To Country that had gravitas and meaning. However, I see so many acknowledgement of country rituals that are either blurted out quickly as an inconvenience, or are made overly elaborate and hand-wringing in some theatre settings, that they come across as either hypocritical at one end or virtue signalling on steroids at the other end. What is your thinking about these rituals?

    One of my clients was warned not to do an acknowledgement of country at an event for fear of offending people but as I learn more about griefology and the seven phases to integrating loss and grief, it seems that fear is because there is stuff bottled up inside many of us and it threatens to blow in harmful ways, or even just uncomfortable ways. Could we walk through these phases?

    Phase 1 Contemporary Aboriginal Disadvantage
    Phase 2 Childhood Violations / Losses & Unresolved Grief
    Phase 3 Australian History; English History; Ancient History; Plato 388 BC.
    Phase 4& 5 Ancient Traditional Culture
    Phase 6 Reclamation of Contemporary Loss & Grief Programs
    Phase 7 Develop Training Programs for every sector across society

    I'm fascinated by your methodology for developing griefology. You talk about intuitive research. What does that mean and how can we be sure the voices we hear inside are not delusions?

    Can you tell us about the National Symposium on Griefolology at the Adelaide Convention Centre. What it is, who should go, and what you hope it will achieve?

    Steve references his documentary, Sorry Proof Country, during the interview. It was uploaded to YouTube many years ago when there was a 10-minute limit. So here is part one of the 30-minute film YouTube will guide you to parts two and three as you watch.

    01:36:54 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is Here in the Woods, by Nataleigh.

    Nataleigh is a dynamo on the local music scene. She performs all over place but also makes musical magic with her twin sister, Amanda, by hosting an annual music competition called eMusic. The twins invite friends to submit a song that follows three rules; each song has to be original, recorded at home, and meet the 'general' characteristics of the chosen genre. This year the genre is acoustic, but previous years it has been everything from power balads to children's songs. There tend to be about six entries each year and then the 50 or so people who turn up vote on the songs so that a winner can be chosen.

    The song we're going to listen to is a good accompaniment to this episode. It's called Here in the Woods. It was written by Amanda but both sisters sing it. It's a good choice for this episode because part of what Rosemary Wanganeen was encouraging us to do was to get "into the woods" to reconnect to the stories from the land around us. And this song makes many references to immersing in and observing the woods, the forest, the moon, etc.

    We wish them all the best for this year's 13th eMusic competition - and thank you to Carol Neller for putting us in touch.

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  • When Steve Davis is not recording The Adelaide Show Podcast, he's sitting in the co-pilot's chair with Dr Travis Brown as they create This Medical Life, a podcast that explores the history of different diseases and medical conditions, along with the latest insights in understanding and treatment. And what better way to give you a taste that wrapping a podcast within a podcast!

    And in the Musical Pilgrimage, The Public Servants will sing Four O'Clock Friday (make sure you stay for the end to hear it, and don't clock off early).

    You can navigate episodes using chapter markers in your podcast app. Not a fan of one segment? You can click next to jump to the next chapter in the show. We're here to serve!

    The Adelaide Show Podcast: Awarded Silver for Best Interview Podcast in Australia at the 2021 Australian Podcast Awards and named as Finalist for Best News and Current Affairs Podcast in the 2018 Australian Podcast Awards.

    And please consider becoming part of our podcast by joining our Inner Circle. It's an email list. Join it and you might get an email on a Sunday or Monday seeking question ideas, guest ideas and requests for other bits of feedback about YOUR podcast, The Adelaide Show. Email us directly and we'll add you to the list: [email protected]

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    Running Sheet: This Medical Life And The Andrew Wakefield Fraud

    00:00:00 Intro

    Introduction

    00:00:00 SA Drink Of The Week

    There is no featured drink this week.

    00:08:10 Dr Travis Brown and This Medical Life

    Dr Travis Brown is a pathologist who has a passion for the stories of medicine. He's also Resident General Pathologist at Clinpath Pathology.

    His obsession for storytelling led him to create a podcast in 2020, called This Pathological Life. In late 2021, the podcast broadened its focus and became This Medical Life.

    Travis is 83 episodes into this journey and in every one of them he takes a particular disease or medical condition, explores the history behind it, and then covers our understanding and treatment of it today. Typically, he has an expert from the field handle the last part of each podcast.

    The enterprise is an open gift to the medical world. It is pitched at GPs and specialists and medical students, but he's also attracting a general interest audience of humans who are curious to learn as well as patients who want to know more about their particular illness.

    Our very own Steve Davis is the co-host of this podcast and because he is having his Covid booster and flu shot today, coinciding with an episode about vaccines and one about influenze just about to be released, it seemed the perfect time to throw the spotlight on this fellow Adelaidean podcast.

    We will hear the complete episode (Season 4, Episode 38), in which the special guest is Brian Deer, the award winning investigative journalist and bestselling author of The Doctor that Fooled the World, which blew the whistle on the great fraud carried out by disgraced former doctor, Andrew Wakefield, who wrongly linked the MMR vaccine to autism and fuelled parts of the ant-vax movement.

    As you will hear, this is not based on semantics, this truly was a fraud at many levels. It's a horrifying insight into how such evil can then lure well-meaning people not only off the safe path but into the thickets and weeds of conspiracy and pseudo science.

    01:01:54 Musical Pilgrimage

    Our featured song this episode is Four O'Clock Friday by The Public Servants.

    This Adelaide band claims to be the world’s premier public servant-themed novelty punk rock band. And I think they're on the money.

    On Friday, June 16, 2023, The Public Servants will officially launch their debut full-length album ‘Code of Misconduct’ at the Hotel Metropolitan, with support from Adelaide’s Celtic folk rockers The Backyarders.

    You would expect public servants to have obsessive personalities and the band members do not disappoint. They are all vinyl buffs so their debut album has been pressed into luxury 180 gram brown vinyl. And it will be a limited edition, too, with only 100 copies made.

    Code of Misconduct on vinyl is available at The Public Servants’ shows and online at Bandcamp, with the music available through all the digital platforms.

    A final thought. Public servants also like statistics so it is no surprise that their media release contained this gem: 100,000 songs are released each day. They posit that as the reason they're striving a bit weird, because there's a lot of "noise" to cut through.

    To give you a taste of the content, ,the album opens with Blend 43 – a coffee staple in many a workplace. It's followed by Papercut, Stress Leave, and Bored.

    The song we're playing, to keep the episode family friendly is not, Flexitime Sexytime, but rather, Four O'Clock Friday. It's got to be four o'clock Friday somewhere, right?

    The Public Servants are:

    Frank N Fearless – Guitar and vocals
    Indi Pendent – Drums and vocals
    Beau Racrat – Bass and vocals
    Linda from HR – Vocal harmonies

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