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The Exodus Way Q+R (E14) — What birth imagery do we find in Exodus? Are there hyperlinks elsewhere in the Bible that connect to Pharaoh’s hardened heart? And is the circumcision story with Zipporah and Moses’ son connected to Passover? In this episode, Tim and Jon respond to your questions from our Exodus Way series. Thank you to our audience for your thoughtful contributions to this episode!
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Intro (0:00-2:27)Do the seven women in Exodus mirror the seven women in Genesis? (2:27-11:31)What birth imagery can we pull out of the exodus story? (11:31-24:27)Are there hyperlinks elsewhere in the Bible that connect to Pharaoh’s hardened heart? (24:27-34:37)Is the circumcision story with Zipporah and Moses’ son connected to Passover? (34:37-38:54)How are the Passover and Yom Kippur lambs connected? (38:54-58:57)Is there any connection between God’s Spirit descending on Jesus like a dove at his baptism and the dove Noah sent out of the ark? (58:50-1:07:28)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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Find our special interview episode with BibleProject Fellow Tamara Knudson: The Seven Women Who Rescued Moses—and IsraelRecovering Paul's Mother Tongue: Language and Theology in Galatians by Susan Grove EastmanIn response to the question about God hardening Pharaoh's heart, Tim references our series on the Exodus Scroll, specifically episode 2, Yahweh and the Exodus. We also addressed this topic in the Exodus 1-18 Q+RTim mentions Hebrew Bible scholars Richard Whitekettle, Jacob Milgrom, and Jonathan Klawans, though not any specific works by them.Jon mentions a previous episode where we discussed Zipporah and Moses’ son: Did God Try To Kill Moses?Lamb of the Free: Recovering the Varied Sacrificial Understandings of Jesus's Death by Andrew Remington RilleraYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
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Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, who edited today’s episode and also provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Exodus Way E13 (Bonus Interview) — The exodus from Egypt was a foundational story for ancient Israel, but without a special group of seven often overlooked women, the exodus would have never happened! In this episode, Jon and Tim have a conversation with BibleProject Scholarship Fellow Tamara Knudson about the seven women in Exodus 1-4 who save Moses—and by extension—all of Israel.
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Introducing Tamara and the Seven Women of Exodus 1-4 (0:00-6:29)The Two Midwives and Moses’ Mother (6:29-21:20)Pharaoh’s Daughter and Moses’ Sister, Miriam (21:20-31:08)Zipporah, Moses’ Wife (31:08-46:39)Other Books of the Bible That Start With Women (46:39-54:54)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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Read the BibleProject article that Tamara contributed to: “7 Powerful Women in the Bible Who Help Rescue God's People.”Tim references a previous Q+R episode, “Did God Try To Kill Moses?” where they responded to an audience member’s question about Exodus 4:24-26.Tamara references Carmen Imes’ Exodus Overview Classroom course.You can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Hope in the Morning ft. CRFT & GXNXSIS” by Lofi Sunday“Redeemer ft. Cassidy Godwin” by Lofi Sunday“That Gospel ft. Bobcat” by Lofi Sunday“Eden Dreaming ft. sxxnt.” by Lofi SundayBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, who edited today’s episode and also provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. Special thanks to Tamara Knudson.
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The Exodus Way E12 (Bonus Interview) — If we come to the New Testament without much knowledge of the Hebrew Bible, we may think that baptism is just something that John the Baptist made up and Jesus carried on for new disciples. But there are multiple levels of meaning in this practice, including ritual purification, Israel’s passage through the Red Sea, entry into the promised land, and, most importantly for Jesus, a symbol of his death on our behalf. In this episode, Jon and Tim have a wide-ranging conversation with prolific author and theologian N.T. Wright about the meaning of baptism and its connections to the Exodus story.
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Welcoming N.T. Wright (0:00-10:20)Baptism as Repentance and Ushering in the Kingdom (10:20-33:17)Baptism as Death and New Life in the Messiah (33:17-47:37)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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N.T. Wright mentions the online learning platform Admirato, which hosts dozens of his theology courses.God's Big Picture Bible Storybook by N. T. Wright“Sonnet X” or “Death, be not proud” from Holy Sonnets by John DonneYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Faithful” by Marc Vanparla“Sanctuary” by Asaph’s ArrowsBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, who edited today’s episode and also provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. Special thanks to N.T. Wright.
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The Exodus Way E11 — After Jesus’ death, resurrection, and ascension, his followers grew into a movement known simply as “The Way”—a new exodus people delivered from sin and death, following the narrow way of Jesus through the wilderness of our present world and awaiting entry into a promised new creation. The Apostle Paul is a central figure in this movement, commissioned by the risen Jesus to spread the good news of the new exodus to the nations. He planted churches in several Roman cities and wrote letters to congregations of Jewish and Gentile believers. Paul was a Jewish man steeped in Israel's Scriptures, which is why we see him infusing Exodus language and imagery into his letters to the early Church. In this episode, Jon and Tim explore Paul’s letters to the churches in Corinth, Galatia, and Rome, discovering how Paul saw the death and resurrection of Jesus, the life of the Christian, and the larger story of creation as a cosmic exodus.
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Recap of Where We’ve Been (0:00-3:01)Exodus Imagery in 1 Corinthians 5 (3:01-14:03)Exodus Language in Galatians (14:03-31:41)The Cosmic Exodus in Romans 8 (31:41-44:33)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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The Homilies of St. John Chrysostom on the Epistles of St. Paul to the Corinthians by John ChrysostomPaul and His Story: (Re)Interpreting the Exodus Tradition by Sylvia KeesmaatYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Lilo” by The Field Tapes & Middle School“Loving Someone You Lost” by The Field TapesBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode. Aaron Olsen and Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Exodus Way E10 — The Exodus story was core to the identity of ancient Israel. Inspired by the prophet Isaiah’s words, 1st-century Israelites were awaiting a new exodus, where a new Moses-like figure would deliver them from Roman oppression. The gospels present Jesus as that figure, who saves people from sickness, hunger, spiritual oppression, and even death itself. And following Jesus’ resurrection and the coming of the Holy Spirit, the early Jesus movement became known as “The Way,” carrying a message of salvation for all nations. In this episode, Jon and Tim explore how the new exodus people in the book of Acts embody the prophet Isaiah’s vision.
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Recap and Acts as an “Isaianic” New Exodus (0:00-9:44)Isaiah’s New Exodus Language in Luke-Acts (9:44-26:18)Exodus and Acts’ Shared Theme of the Victorious Creator God (26:18-35:03)A New Exodus for All Nations (35:03-45:24)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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Acts and the Isaianic New Exodus by David W. PaoYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Nimbus” by Toonorth“Silk” by El Train“Wistful” by ToonorthBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode. Aaron Olsen and Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Exodus Way E9 — All four gospel accounts build anticipation for Jesus to accomplish a new kind of exodus when he arrives in Jerusalem. But later in the gospel narratives, Jesus begins telling his disciples that he will be arrested and killed in Jerusalem before rising on the third day. So Jesus journeys to Jerusalem and confronts the religious establishment—notably only days before Passover! And before his arrest, he shares a Passover meal with his disciples and shockingly reinterprets the bread and wine to be about his coming death. What is Jesus doing, and how is his death related to the climactic Exodus event of Passover? In this episode, Jon and Tim trace the Holy Week story leading up to Passover and explore how Jesus’ death fulfills the cosmic Exodus story of the Bible.
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Recap and Jesus’ Prediction of His Death in Jerusalem (2:13-15:18)Jesus Compares His Death to Noah’s Flood (15:18-23:17)Jesus Enters Jerusalem, Stirs Up Trouble, and Hosts a Passover Meal (23:17-49:38)The Cosmic Exodus (49:38-56:52)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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The Bronze Bow by Elizabeth George SpeareLast Supper and Lord's Supper by I. Howard MarshallThe Historical Reliability of the Gospels by Craig L. BlombergThe MishnahYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Chiaroscuro” by Toonorth“New Light” by Toonorth“Wistful” by ToonorthBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode. Aaron Olsen and Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Exodus Way E8 — Before the arrival of Jesus, Israelites already viewed their current circumstances and hopes for God’s salvation through the lens of the Exodus. This is why the gospel authors tell the story of Jesus with language that points back to the main beats of the Exodus story. In this first episode of two on the gospels, Jon and Tim explore the many Exodus hyperlinks found in the stories of Jesus’ birth, his baptism in the Jordan River, his testing in the wilderness, and his public ministry in Galilee.
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The Exodus Way in the Life of Jesus (0:00-5:42)Comparing Jesus and Moses’ Birth Stories (5:42-19:45)Jesus’ Baptism, Testing in the Wilderness, and “Saving” People (19:45-39:32)Jesus’ Transfiguration on the Mountain Compared to Moses at Sinai (39:32-51:58)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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Text & Texture by Michael FishbaneYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Nimbus” by Toonorth“Lost Love” by Toonorth“Effervescent” by ToonorthBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode. Aaron Olsen and Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Exodus Way E7 — In Mark 14, we’re told that Jesus and his disciples celebrated Passover and sang a hymn before going out to the garden of Gethsemane. So what hymn did they sing? Rabbinic tradition going back to the time of Jesus records that during Passover, Jewish people sang Psalm 113-118, a collection of songs known as the Passover Hallel. In this episode, Jon and Tim explore these six psalms’ references to the Exodus story and what they might have meant to Jesus on the night of the last supper.
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What Hymn Did Jesus and His Disciples Sing at Passover? (0:00-:6:15)Psalm 113: Seeing With Exodus Glasses (6:15-14:53)Psalms 114-115: Yahweh’s Power Among the Nations (14:53-25:46)Psalms 116-118: Reflecting on Our Own Exodus Journey (25:46-34:58)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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The Babylonian TalmudThe ToseftaYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Small Town Palm Trees” by Mama Aiuto - Topic“Penpals Perhaps” by Sleepy Fish & Coa“Where the Streets Are Cold & Lonely” by Mama AiutoBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode. Aaron Olsen and Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Exodus Way E6 — By the time of the prophet Isaiah, the Assyrian Empire had already exiled the northern kingdom of Israel. Isaiah prophesied that the southern kingdom of Judah would survive Assyrian attack but that a new empire, Babylon, would one day take Judah into exile because of their injustice and idolatry. Within this world of empires, oppressors, and exiles, Isaiah prophesied about a more cosmic, permanent Exodus to come for God’s people. In this episode, Jon and Tim explore the narrative beats of Exodus in Isaiah and how his prophetic images inspired the gospel writers.
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Empires in the Time of Isaiah (0:00-12:48)The Messiah’s Ultimate Road in and Road Out in Isaiah 11 (12:48-32:19)The Highway of God in Isaiah 40 and a New Exodus in Isaiah 43 (32:19-51:05)A New Exodus of Repentance in Isaiah 58 (51:05-59:07)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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You can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Haunt Me Home (feat. Catalina Bellizzi)” by Alert312“Today Feels Like Everyday” by Mama AiutoBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode. Aaron Olsen and Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Exodus Way E5 — By the time we get to the scroll of Joshua, the Israelites are preparing to enter the land of promise. But we quickly discover a reverse Exodus happening in the narrative. The Canaanite kings—who are depicted as new pharaohs—assemble with armies to meet Israel on the other side of the Jordan River. And in the midst of the story, a Canaanite woman in Jericho actually shows more faith than anyone! Then in the following scroll of Judges, the identity of the pharaohs shifts again—this time to the Israelites, who enslave themselves due to their own corruption and injustice. In this episode, Jon and Tim discuss how Joshua and Judges hyperlink back to the Exodus Way narrative theme, while also pointing to a coming Messianic leader who can lead us out of exile, through the wilderness, and into a true land of inheritance.
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Recap of the Theme So Far (0:00-6:50)The Surprising Story of Rahab (6:50-20:15)Canaanite Kings as the New Pharaohs in Joshua (20:15-41:09)Israelites as the New Pharaohs in Judges (41:09-49:40)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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Berit Olam: Joshua by L. Daniel HawkJoshua in 3-D: A Commentary on Biblical Conquest and Manifest Destiny by L. Daniel HawkEvery Promise Fulfilled: Contesting Plots in Joshua by L. Daniel HawkYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Mario Kart” by SwuM“Self Luv” by SwuM“Reflect” by SwuM & BennoBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode. Aaron Olsen and Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Exodus Way E4 — We’re tracing the narrative theme of Exodus in the Bible, and we’re finally ready to trace it in … Exodus! There are three main beats in this narrative theme: the road out of slavery, the road through the wilderness, and the road into inheritance. These three beats play out in Moses' life before Israel’s Exodus from Egypt even begins. There are also key moments of justice and deliverance in the Exodus story—the Passover and Israel’s crossing through the sea—which become the foundations for the Christian practices of communion and baptism. In this episode, Jon and Tim discuss these three crucial beats in the Exodus scroll and how they are poetically drawn together in the “Song of the Sea,” found in Exodus 15.
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Recap and Setup for the Exodus Scroll (00:00-8:20)Three Beats of the Road Out in Exodus (08:20-30:47)The Song of the Sea (30:47-44:36)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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You can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Samething” by SwuM“Davita” by Kyle McEvoy & Stan ForebeeBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza, Aaron Olsen, and Tyler Bailey edited today’s episode. Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Exodus Way E3 — Before we get to the Exodus story, we must first ask a question: How and why did Israel end up enslaved in Egypt in the first place? Throughout the book of Genesis, the biblical authors seem to imply that Abraham’s descendants land in Egypt because of their patriarch’s failures to trust God and do right by others. In this episode, Jon and Tim highlight the Exodus beats in Abraham’s story, showing how they not only anticipate Israel’s exile in Egypt but also the larger Exodus story found throughout the whole Hebrew Bible.
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Recap and Setting Up Abraham (0:00-8:28)Abraham Out of Ur and Into Egypt (8:28-28:06)Slavery in Egypt Predicted (28:06-36:36)Oppression of Hagar the Egyptian Slave (36:36-58:21)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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And You Shall Tell Your Son: The Concept of the Exodus in the Bible by Yair Zakovitch You can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“By Chance” by SwuM“Skates” by SwuM“Homecoming” by Kyle McEvoy & Stan ForebeeBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode. Aaron Olsen and Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Exodus Way E2 — The main beats of the Exodus Way are the road out of slavery, the road through the wilderness, and the road into inheritance. These moments become a narrative theme that plays out over and over in the story of the Bible. We even see them show up in Genesis before the events of the Exodus even happen! In this episode, Jon and Tim explore the significance of Exodus imagery in two early stories from Genesis, the creation and flood narratives.
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Recapping Exodus as a Narrative Theme (0:00-6:30)Exodus in Creation: Genesis 1:1-13 (6:30-20:26)Exodus in the Flood: Genesis 7-8 (20:26-32:11)Connections to Baptism in 1 Peter 3:18-22 (32:11-45:17)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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The Tabernacle Pre-Figured: Cosmic Mountain Ideology in Genesis and Exodus by L.M. Morales (Link is to PDF, since book is not available for sale)“The Use of Water Imagery in Descriptions of Sheol” by Dominic Rudman (From the journal Zeitschrift für die alttestamentliche Wissenschaft; not available for purchase online)You can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Onteora Lake” by Kyle McEvoy & Stan Forebee“Tumble’s Lullaby” by Kyle McEvoy & Stan Forebee“Bloom” by Kyle McEvoyBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode. Aaron Olsen and Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Exodus Way E1 — Most followers of Jesus are familiar with three foundational biblical stories: the story of Jesus in the gospels, the creation story in Genesis, and the Exodus story. These narratives are referred to throughout the whole Bible, but the Exodus story is the most referenced story. Why is this narrative in Exodus so important? In this episode, Jon and Tim start a new series on the narrative theme of Exodus, what we’re calling the “Exodus Way,” showing how this story shapes the Bible’s whole view of reality.
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What Is the Exodus, and Why Is It Important? (2:25-17:09)The Most Referenced Story in the Bible 17:09-29:27The Template of the Exodus (29:27-45:49)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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Echoes of Exodus: Tracing a Biblical Motif by Bryan D. EstelleYou can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Check out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.SHOW MUSIC
“Lax Incense” by Mama Aiuto & Daphné“Treecko Is a Cool Starter” by Sleepy Fish & CoaBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode. Aaron Olsen and Tyler Bailey provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Mountain Q+R (E14) — Could the Tower of Babel be considered a man-made mountain? How does Yahweh asking Abraham to sacrifice Isaac on the mountain fit with his gracious character? And after Elijah’s failure on Mount Sinai, why is he still regarded as a great prophet? In this episode, Tim and Jon respond to your questions from our series on the theme of the mountain. Thank you to our audience for your thoughtful contributions to this episode!
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Intro (0:00-3:52)How can we live out the biblical idea of sacred spaces in the modern world? (3:52-12:38)Could the Tower of Babel be considered a man-made mountain? (12:38-19:22)What do stones and bricks represent in the biblical story? (19:22-28:04)How does Yahweh asking Abraham to sacrifice Isaac fit with his gracious character? (28:04-39:45)After Elijah’s failure on Mount Sinai, why is he still regarded as a great prophet? (39:45-48:30)Can Elijah’s Mount Sinai experience help us understand contemplative prayer practices? (48:30-57:16)Conclusion (57:16-1:00:05)Official Episode Transcript
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The New Isaac: Tradition and Intertextuality in the Gospel of Matthew by Leroy HuizengaCheck out Tim’s extensive collection of recommended books here.You can view annotations for this episode—plus our entire library of videos, podcasts, articles, and classes—in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Show Music
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Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, and he edited and mixed today’s episode. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Mountain Hyperlink Episode (E13) — If you’ve been following along in our series on the mountain, you may have had moments where you thought, “I feel like I’ve heard this before.” And that’s because you have—we’ve been on this mountain before! There are so many themes in the Bible, from mountains to tabernacles, to tests and cities. And while we try to isolate and study themes on their own, the Bible intentionally weaves them together. So whenever you encounter one theme in the Bible, it’s always connected to and building on other themes in a beautiful tapestry. Today, we’re trying something new called a hyperlink episode, where we’ll play clips from previous series that interact and overlap with the theme of the mountain.
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Apocalypse on the Mountain (0:00-11:28)A Mountain Refuge City (11:28-22:41)Priestly Failures on the Mountain (22:41-49:45)OFFICIAL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
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Clip 1 is from “A Walking, Talking Apocalypse,” episode 5 in our 2020 series, Apocalyptic Literature.Clip 2 is from “Jerusalem: A Tale of Two Cities,” episode 9 in our 2023 series The City.Clip 3 is from “Doomed to Fail?” episode 3 in our 2021 series, The Royal Priest.Check out Tim’s library here.You can experience our entire library of resources in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.SHOW MUSIC
“Rest Until Dark” by Sleepy Fish“Canary Forest” by Middle School, Aso, & AviinoBibleProject theme song by TENTSSHOW CREDITS
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer, and he edited today’s episode and provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host for today is Michelle Jones. Our creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Mountain E12 — If Jesus’ role as the promised mountaintop intercessor was unclear from the mountain stories in the Gospels, the author of the letter to the Hebrews wants to make it explicit. Drawing together imagery of Moses on Mount Sinai, the levitical priesthood, and the Old Testament sacrificial system, Hebrews declares that Jesus is the eternal high priest who can ascend to the holy mountain for the people through the blood of his own sacrifice. In this episode, Jon and Tim wrap up our series on The Mountain by exploring Jesus' ascension to the heavenly cosmic mountain, thereby opening the door for humanity.
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Timestamps
Chapter 1: Recap of the Mountain Theme (0:00-11:31)Chapter 2: The Divine Son, Perfect Sacrifice, and Cosmic High Priest (11:31-40:14)Chapter 3: Draw Near to the Heavenly Mount Zion (40:14-58:28)Chapter 4: Diving Deeper into the Mountain Theme (58:28-1:02:37)Official Episode Transcript
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Referenced Resources
Rethinking the Atonement: New Perspectives on Jesus's Death, Resurrection, and Ascension by David M. MoffittCheck out Tim’s library here.You can experience our entire library of resources in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Show Music
“Lozari” by L’indécis“The String That Ties Us” by Beautiful EulogyBibleProject theme song by TENTSShow Credits
Production of today's episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Frank Garza and Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode, and Aaron Olsen also provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Mountain E11 — We’ve learned that mountains in the Hebrew Bible often become a space where Heaven and Earth overlap and human beings must choose between self-preservation or surrender and trust in God. The story builds our hope and expectation for a faithful intercessor on the mountain who can mediate God’s blessings to the people below. As we turn to the New Testament, gospel writer Matthew is ready to spotlight who that faithful mountaintop intercessor is. In this episode, Jon and Tim walk through seven stories in the Gospel of Matthew where Jesus prays, teaches, does miracles, and more—all on mountains.
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Timestamps
Chapter 1: Theme Recap and Overview of Matthew’s Seven Mountains (0:00-17:42)Chapter 2: The Mountains of Testing and Teaching (17:42-29:44)Chapter 3: Two Mountains of Prayer and Feeding, Plus One of Transfiguration (29:44-42:15)Chapter 4: Mountains of Apocalypse and Commissioning (42:15-55:16)Official Episode Transcript
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Referenced Resources
Jesus on the Mountain: A Study in Matthean Theology by Terence DonaldsonCheck out Tim’s library here.You can experience our entire library of resources in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Show Music
“Dreams Come True” by Drips Zacheer“Moonlite” by Nokiaa & Deauxnuts“Go Slow” by little blueBibleProject theme song by TENTSShow Credits
Production of today's episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode and also provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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The Mountain E10 — The prophet Isaiah depicts Mount Zion as a cosmic mountain where Heaven and Earth overlap and God’s blessings flow down to all of creation. But Isaiah also lived in the real Jerusalem that had Mount Zion at its center, which was filled with corruption, injustice, and idolatry. So in his prophecies, he balances hope in this future new Eden with warnings of judgment on Jerusalem’s proud and corrupt elites. In this episode, Jon and Tim discuss the many iterations of the mountain theme in Isaiah 2-4, including how Jesus and his disciples embody the imagery of Isaiah’s anointed servant and the remnant community.
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Timestamps
Chapter 1: The Ideal and Corrupt Mount Zion, Leading to Judgment (0:00-22:55)Chapter 2: A Day of Yahweh Against the Rich, Powerful, and Proud (22:55-32:32)Chapter 3: A Holy Remnant on a Renewed Mount Zion (32:32-53:40)Official Episode Transcript
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Referenced Resources
Check out Tim’s library here.You can experience our entire library of resources in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Show Music
“Bimmer M6” by Kreatev“Sunlight (feat. Jintonic)” by Kendall MilesBibleProject theme song by TENTSShow Credits
Production of today's episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode and also provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie.
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In our final episode of 2024, Tim, Jon, and BibleProject CEO, Steve Atkinson, reflect on ten years of the project, all the resources we got to make and share this year, and the patrons who made it possible. The guys then give a sneak peek of what’s coming up next for BibleProject in 2025.
Timestamps
Ten Year Anniversary and Our Patron Community (0:00-9:25)Strategic Relationships (9:25-19:49)2024 Engagement With Our Resources (19:49-30:51)Looking Back at a Year in the Sermon on the Mount (30:51-35:41)2025 Podcast Themes (35:41-37:43)Reading the Bible in Community (37:43-41:54)In Space With Astronaut Tracy Caldwell-Dyson (41:54-44:29)Gratitude (44:29-47:39)Official Episode Transcript
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Watch our 2024 end of year video, where Jon and Tim explore “purple dot moments”—experiences of God’s Kingdom here on Earth. Plus, catch a glimpse of what’s coming in 2025. Check out Tim’s library here.You can experience our entire library of resources in the BibleProject app, available for Android and iOS.Show Music
BibleProject theme song by TENTSShow Credits
Production of today’s episode is by Lindsey Ponder, producer, and Cooper Peltz, managing producer. Tyler Bailey is our supervising engineer. Aaron Olsen edited today’s episode and also provided the sound design and mix. JB Witty does our show notes, and Hannah Woo provides the annotations for our app. Our host and creative director is Jon Collins, and our lead scholar is Tim Mackie. Special thanks to our guest, Steve Atkinson.
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