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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness with a clinically proven, peer reviewed treatment called the Shoemaker Protocol. Every year, doctors certified in the Shoemaker Protocol organize an information packed conference called CIRSx. Today, we are continuing our recap of CIRSx and covering three talks about indoor environment improvements you can do today in your own home to improve your air quality and start healing from CIRS. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer0:35 Air Oasis talk5:03 Info on buying an iAdapt 2.07:00 Aaron Pettigrew and Chris Foth update9:55 Don’t slack off and give yourself grace11:56 The CIRS Project non-profit14:14 Actinos Update by Dr. Dorninger16:47 How to manage actino cleaning20:54 COVID as a priming event21:14 Actinos are a violent driver of neurodegeneration21:56 Air Oasis iAdapts seem to help with actino reactivity
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
HELPFUL LINKS:Where to buy an Air Oasis iAdapt 2.0: https://www.airoasis.com/Podcast of Air Oasis owner John with IEP Michael Schrantz: https://youtu.be/Ke2fzV9cv-Q?si=ABXfKVcJK3p5bteOChristian (CIRSLab)’s affiliate code for AirOasis to get 10% off: CIRSLAB10Chris Foth, Aaron Pettigrew interview with Dr. Dorninger: https://youtu.be/6WxFMhYm2rk?si=zwqpacNTclMtJyCnOur last actinos episode: https://youtu.be/q-KW5ZXUHVMSkin test for actinos: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/actino-skin/?v=3e8d115eb4b3Homebiotic product: https://homebiotic.com/
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness that can affect up to 25% of the population, thanks to genetics and environmental toxins. Today, we continue to recap CIRSx 2024, this time showing our Indoor Environmental Professionals some love! We had some fantastic talks by Michael Schrantz, Bill Weber, and Brandon Apple, plus Dr. Eric Dorninger and Dr. Jari Louhelainen and the topics covered include poop (or endotoxins), indoor air quality, indoor air testing, and the proper sequencing of remediation. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:13 Endotoxin talk by M. Schrantz and Dr. Dorninger2:15 Endotoxins don’t always smell2:58 How to test for endotoxins4:39 DIY tips to deal with Endotoxins6:30 What to avoid to keep endotoxins at bay7:29 Air Quality talk by Dr. Jari Louhelainen9:57 Real time air testing11:00 The problem with HEPA filtration11:57 Prevalence of government and leadership cover up13:44 Mold Sampling Methods talk by Bill Weber15:00 Air Sampling pros and cons16:50 When to use air sampling17:53 Why hire your own IEP or inspector19:21 Remediation Sequencing talk by Brandon Apple21:54 Verify after every step - test, test, test24:00 Lean into your CIRS-literate IEP25:15 The painful verification process
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
HELPFUL LINKS:Michael Schrantz’ company website: https://environmentalanalytics.net/Dr. Doringer’s website: https://drdorninger.com/Dr. Jari Louhelainen: https://www.ljmu.ac.uk/about-us/staff-profiles/faculty-of-science/pharmacy-and-biomolecular-sciences/jari-louhelainenBill Weber’s company website: https://avelar.net/articles_publications/team/bill-weber/Brandon Apple’s company website: https://www.moldsci.com/
Endotoxin test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/e-endotoxin/?v=3e8d115eb4b3National Company that administers smoke tests: https://www.americanleakdetection.com/Green Gobbler product: https://a.co/d/9jTf8vWERMI Test: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/ermi/?v=3e8d115eb4b3HERTSMI-2 Tests: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/hertsmi-2/?v=3e8d115eb4b3
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
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CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated, multi-symptom, multi-system illness - so why wouldn’t there be an annual CIRSx conference for it?! We had a really great time at CIRSx this year, and this episode is our quick summary of all of it. We talked to lots of doctors, heard a ton of great talks, had a lot of fun and are so happy to be part of this wonderful community. We will do more in-depth, helpful-tip-packed episodes in the next few weeks, but for now, we wanted to give you guys the highlight reel from our weekend in Frisco, Texas. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:10 Travel considerations for those with CIRS2:10 Hotel moldy vibes4:10 The DFW airport is not OK5:21 The Proficiency Partner Program8:15 Christian Navarro-Torres, PhD was recognized10:57 Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker’s amazing speech13:50 The impact of meeting members and listeners16:21 Exciting interviews coming soon19:57 Why you shouldn’t have FOMO
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
HELPFUL LINKS:The CIRSx website: https://www.cirsx.com/Follow Christian on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cirslabSign up for Christian’s research-oriented membership: https://www.cirslab.com/Michael Schrantz’ website: https://environmentalanalytics.net/Dr. Peg DiTulio’s website:https://regenixhealing.com/meet-the-staffAmber (and Atlas, the mold sniffing dog) on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the_mold_free_yogi/
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a multi-system, multi-symptom illness that affects many (if not all) of the systems of the body, including the ears, aka your Vestibular System. We are very lucky that Jacie has worked in audiology for many years and is now able to share her wisdom and clinical experience with us to help us understand the paths to heal from tinnitus, hearing loss, balance, and vertigo issues, and the inflammation (or injury) at the root of those problems. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:40 Jacie’s background in Audiology2:15 Why ears and eyes are so sensitive and reactive4:15 What is Tinnitus?6:27 Tinnitus caused by bent and broken hair8:41 The vestibular system, vertigo, the spins10:00 Meniere’s Disease - testing methods10:46 Inflammation is the root cause11:32 Deplaning Syndrome and Epley Maneuvers14:17 Hearing loss - the sooner you treat, the better your outcome17:13 Ear and hearing maintenance/cleaning tips for everyone19:30 Barbara’s embarrassing story
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Follow Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Follow Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
HELPFUL LINKS:Visual Contrast Sensitivity Test: Article about Texas Roadhouse owner, Kent Taylor’s health struggles: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/03/22/979929592/texas-roadhouse-founder-kent-taylor-dies-after-struggle-with-post-covid-19-symptMindEar app: https://www.mindear.com/Meniere’s info and testing procedures: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/menieres-disease/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20374916Canalith Repositioning Procedure/Epley Maneuver info: https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/canalith-repositioning-procedure/about/pac-20393315Fun/frustrating Maze Ball game referenced: https://a.co/d/6WIt3UZDMI Baby Nasal Aspirator, Ear Syringe, Clears Airway & Nasal Passages: https://a.co/d/d1KzgWj
Jacie is a 4+ year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3+ year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment, which can be found at TheCIRSGroup.com
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that is most often triggered in patients from water damage. Today, we are going to dig into Jacie’s recent experience dealing with a leak in her home and how she mitigated the damage and came out OK on the other side. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:52 Jacie’s adventure with a leak in her apartment5:02 What to do if you are a renter6:50 What to do if you’re a homeowner7:53 Get three bids for a project9:24 The steps to take when you discover a leak11:20 Air filters and fans12:13 Probiotic spray and 14:40 Preventative measures17:39 Testing afterwards19:10 Community support
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
HELPFUL LINKS:Michael Schrantz’ website to hire him as your IEP: https://environmentalanalytics.net/Air Oasis, use code CIRSLAB for a discount (our friend’s discount code, not ours): https://www.airoasis.com/HomeBiotic spray: https://homebiotic.com/Under Sink Mat for Kitchen: https://a.co/d/9zS31k4Leak Alarm:Geevon 4 Pack Water Leak Detectors: https://a.co/d/gmH66UvGovee WiFi Water Sensor 3 Pack, Water Leak Detector: https://a.co/d/4b2S1KbEnvironmental testing Jacie referred to: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaa
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness that can cause us to dissociate from our own bodies, as a way of self-protection. If you are far enough along with your healing, it can become important to rebuild that connection and tune in to what your body needs and feels, so that you can heal fully and completely. Today, we dive into this topic, covering some of the challenges of mindfulness as well as strategies and methods you may want to try. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer0:30 Why mindfulness is so difficult2:25 The power our brains have over our healing4:55 Limbic Retraining is an on-going practice5:54 How to tell if you’re out of touch with your body7:07 Practice: all you need to do is show up8:13 The best method is the one you can stick to9:12 Gratitudes10:55 Play with the time of day11:40 Journaling or Morning Pages13:01 Meditation, choosing identities14:26 ADHD struggles with mindfulness15:56 Yoga17:46 Walking19:51 How to get started with Mindfulness20:47 Tracking symptoms23:12 Practice, not perfect
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
HELPFUL LINKS:Limbic Retraining episode: https://youtu.be/tTzgIsdYovA?si=S4eS_dytKrK2Yj3rThe Joy Plan book: https://a.co/d/gx82x4BThe Artist’s Way book: https://a.co/d/1u2x3loCIRS Meditation practice with Melanie: https://www.instagram.com/meditation4cirs/Great research on why ADHD makes mindfulness difficult (and how to overcome): https://youtu.be/RFJBwdpSPmU?si=vV__3XUxNc9iYVdPYoga with Adriene: https://www.youtube.com/@yogawithadriene
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness and the only clinically proven path to healing is through the Shoemaker Protocol. Today, we are tackling the tricky topic of medication and supplement timing. Many CIRS patients, ourselves included, struggle with when to take our binders, when to eat, and when it’s safe to take other meds, so we thought this would be a good topic to dig into. As always, none of this is medical advice. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer0:48 Supplements and Binder timing can feel overwhelming at first1:48 Why the binders are so tricky2:42 Welchol vs CSM and eating fat afterwards4:40 Thyroid medication and other supplements5:40 Jacie’s medication/supplement schedule7:02 Barbara’s medication/supplement schedule9:45 There are shades of gray - just do your best11:35 Strategies to implement: timers, reminders, alarms, sticky notes13:19 Writing meds out like a To Do list14:10 Phosphatidylcholine tips (and Barbara’s face)16:04 CSM tips18:40 Outro
HELPFUL LINKS:Pill organizer: https://a.co/d/4JbZgQkFrother/electric whisk for CSM: https://a.co/d/0YWS0jw
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is an illness caused by mold and other biotoxins that affects 24% of the population and only a handful of doctors even know about it. We are so excited to have one of the greats on today: Dr. Eric Dorninger. Dr. D is a CIRS patient himself - he will share more about his and his family’s health struggles, the reasons he fights for his patients’ health, and the magic of healing from CIRS so we can be happy, healthy, kick ass individuals. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:18 Dr. Eric Dorninger’s backstory8:35 CIRSx and the Holy Trinity of CIRS Healing9:18 BlueSkyCBD for mood disorders10:10 Screening for CIRS13:04 Story of patient healing from CIRS14:59 Why your doctor’s staff is so important20:50 What it takes to work with CIRS patients23:41 Tinnitus in CIRS patients24:54 The problem with naming diseases26:30 Dr. D’s podcast The Vitality Hour29:44 Patient Aaron Pettigrew’s CIRS story32:39 CIRSx and the importance of environment professionals37:00 CIRS patients becoming CIRS practitioners39:37 What the CIRS community should do to spread awareness41:57 The problem with urinary mycotoxin tests and azoles44:20 Endotoxin nuggets of wisdom49:09 Outro and CIRSx excitement
HELPFUL LINKS:Come to CIRSx! https://www.cirsx.com/Dr. Dorninger’s practice website: https://drdorninger.com/Dr. Dorninger on AANP website: https://naturopathic.org/member/drdorningerBlueSkyCBD: https://www.bluesky-cbd.com/Dr. D’s podcast The Vitality Hour: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwmPARlXz7FIag_6NPS_uBgVitality Hour on tolerating binders: https://youtu.be/omQL_mZrGRM?si=5DtyoM8E4i9I4qfUTake the CIRSx Courses: https://institute.cirsx.com/
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that occurs in 25% of the population that gets exposed to environmental toxins like mold, red tide, spider or tick bites, and even some vaccines and viruses. Today, we have a special return guest Dr. Christian Navarro-Torres, and we are going off script, away from the clinically proven path for healing from CIRS with the Shoemaker Protocol: Exploring the potential for good that comes in the form of pure Nicotine. This may be a controversial topic - but as always, this is not medical advice! We are exploring the possibilities for treatment in the future and hopefully opening the conversation around alternative methods to help the body recover from CIRS. More research is needed, but it’s fun to play “what if.” For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:24 What is Nicotine?
3:00 Overlap between Nicotine and VIP
4:35 Immunomodulation by both Nicotine and VIP
6:03 Nicotine can stimulate VIP receptors
6:51 Cancer risk with Nicotine use
8:30 Smoking/Vaping vs taking Nicotine in pure form
10:05 Long COVID symptom resolution with Nicotine
15:12 Jacie’s experience with Nicotine
17:25 Christian’s experience with Nicotine
22:13 Barbara’s experience with Nicotine
24:32 Nicotine recommendations: NicNac
26:32 Nicotine dosage
28:13 Arginine supplementation with Nicotine
30:40 Cravings and withdrawal concerns
32:40 Potential in the future for CIRS patients
37:15 Outro
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The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
HELPFUL LINKS:
VIP Spray episode: https://youtu.be/A3YXtkYMnL0?si=mSSC-nwWrYTjFcQ6
NicNac, use Christian’s discount code CIRSLAB: https://www.nicnac.com/
Come to CIRSx: https://www.cirsx.com/
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complex chronic illness that requires a multi-step treatment protocol in order to heal. Today, we dive into taking binders - why take them, what kind to take, why they might cause side effects and what to do to mitigate those side effects. This is not medical advice, always consult your Shoemaker certified practitioner before making changes to your treatment plan. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:22 The Intensification Monster2:03 What to expect when starting binders3:58 Why the binders might hurt at first6:27 Why binder timing matters8:35 Various binder options: CSM, welchol, okra/beet11:22 Being in exposure may cause binder side effects14:58 Low dose VIP Spray15:26 Lipid Replacement adjustment15:53 MARCoNs17:56 Histamine response / MCAS19:09 Why a Shoemaker certified practitioner is important
HELPFUL LINKS:Environment testing episode: https://youtu.be/CK0rPJE5Gcs?si=eGQrUHaTKzKEAtmDGENIE test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=hB35VTi1jBX3pkZQMARCoNs test episode: https://youtu.be/dWJaGdpQKrA?si=mcB8XfJC8cRyKgnz&t=469Barbara’s MARCoNs testing video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CrjNhakttIk/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Histamine/MCAS episode: https://youtu.be/mKoTPC4tBpQ?si=MZ6RB1BFbLpbKy1R&t=1140Find a Shoemaker Certified Practitioner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/list-of-certified-practitionersor a Certified Proficiency Partner: https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker-protocol/surviving-mold-proficiency-partners-diplomates
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
The CIRS Group:Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivoryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivoryBlog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/Limbic Training Community: https://www.wired4healing.com
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that affects a quarter of the population (they just might not know it yet). Today, we tackle the very last step of the only clinically proven path to healing CIRS, Shoemaker Protocol, which is Vasoactive Intestinal Peptides, or VIP Spray. VIP Spray is amazing, in that it helps the brain return to normal after inflammation and atrophy caused by CIRS. We dig into the details on how it works, when to use it, and what to expect when using it. This is not medical advice, talk to your doctor to figure out what’s right for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:00 The purpose of VIP Spray within the Shoemaker Protocol
2:17 What is VIP or Vasoactive Intestinal Peptide
2:28 VIP blood test
4:00 Why get a NeuroQuant before and after VIP Spray
5:18 The cost of VIP Spray
6:00 Titration and administration of VIP Spray
7:40 Considerations for storing VIP Spray
8:20 Cheaper option for VIP Spray
8:58 The potential risks of VIP Spray
10:55 Jacie’s experience with VIP Spray
13:00 Using VIP to better tolerate the binders
15:20 Barbara’s VIP Spray
HELPFUL LINKS:
Genie test episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=WL_s_yXIpEh_f4uj
NeuroQuant episode: https://youtu.be/aQyU51D7O-c?si=YkTgroEapsSFWSGw
Cheaper option to purchase VIP Spray (to mix yourself): https://www.montroserx.com/
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness with a complex treatment plan. It can be difficult to attain the level of perfection your doctor may require for you to heal. Today we tackle ways to not let perfect be the enemy of good, and hopefully give you some ideas to “still live your life” while you’re trying to heal. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:03 Perfect vs real life2:15 Location: dry vs humid climates6:58 Cleaning: Minimalism vs Maximalism10:40 Diet: Carnivore vs Standard American diet12:10 Efficiency of treatment through testing
HELPFUL LINKS:Episode on best way of eating with CIRS: https://youtu.be/jln8kKR5PiEEpisode on environment testing: https://youtu.be/CK0rPJE5Gcs
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness that usually requires costly treatment and remediation. Insurance rarely covers it, and because CIRS can cause us to work less (or less optimally) it turns into a bad cycle. This is why we’ve tackled today’s topic: What you can do for as little money as possible now, while you wait to save up for your first appointment with a CIRS literate practitioner. This episode focuses on OTC options and lifestyle changes you can do, not as a replacement for treatment, but as a way to feel as good as you can before starting treatment. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:27 How to get pretty darn sure of your diagnosis cheaply4:41 How to eat and supplement while you wait to see a doctor8:00 Remove yourself from exposure:8:38 How to “cheaply” improve levels of mold, actinos, endos11:00 Hidden areas toxins can hide: Fridge, Washing Machine, Drains13:49 Consider moving, and environment testing14:38 Lyme15:57 COVID and vaccines19:11 Histamine issues and MCAS19:57 Things to remove: IUDs, birth control, Implants, botox21:58 Things to add to your life: Sun, movement, sleep
HELPFUL LINKS:Two options for taking the VCS test:https://www.vcstest.com/https://www.survivingmold.com/resources-for-patients/diagnosis/visual-contrast-sensitivity-vcsSymptom clusters on third slide here: https://www.instagram.com/p/C2rhdMUMjwr/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==History of exposure options on first page: https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-element-cse&cx=a58887261996f4f05&q=https://www.survivingmold.com/docs/KJohnson_CIRS_ESSAY.PDF&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjwqd-oj9mEAxVsBEQIHSbmCQQQFnoECAMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2euIEAyOFCdRuaLQcUT6bGOmaprem supplements: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/inflammation/omaprem-spm-fatty-acidsEnvirobiomics test most often recommended by CIRS doctors: https://www.envirobiomics.com/product/sm-aeh-actino-endotoxin-hertsmi-2/?v=7516fd43adaaDr. Peg DeTulio, Lyme specialist: https://regenixhealing.com/home-pageCOVID episode: https://youtu.be/lBQ0xi1tHLo?si=-Iw1G6AcAtevp6uzSurviving Mold write up COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-articleFLCCC protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is often caused by environmentally based biotoxins like mold, bacteria, and sewage. Less talked about are the co-infections that might reside IN you, like Lyme, dental infections, IUDs, implants, some vaccinations, and now the newest one: COVID-19 as well as the vaccine for COVID. Today, we dig into Jacie’s experience with vaccine and COVID exposure and the protocol she had to do on top of the Shoemaker Protocol to fully heal from CIRS. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro
1:00 Jacie and Barbara’s experience with COVID
3:15 Disclaimer
3:36 Surviving Mold has identified COVID as a biotoxin
4:37 Jacie’s exposure to the COVID vaccine
6:31 Spike Protein Damage Protocols
8:13 CIRS Co-Infections
11:39 TheCIRSGroup.com member experience
HELPFUL LINKS:
SurvingMold.com article/study on COVID: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/dr.-shoemaker-essays/new-research-article
FLCCC Alliance protocol: https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/I-RECOVER-Post-Vaccine-2023-07-24.pdf
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a chronic illness that attacks multiple systems in the body, including the metabolism of energy and digestion of food. The fun side effects can include stubborn weight gain, histamine issues, GI issues, fatigue, and cognitive issues from lack of energy. Today, we’ll dig into why that is and ways of eating you may want to try to help yourself along this complicated healing journey. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer0:52 Our qualifications2:45 Our experience with CIRS and carnivore4:09 Carnivoring harder is not the answer6:32 Carnivore as a band-aid8:04 How to eat for CIRS8:40 Why do an elimination diet10:15 Hypometabolism and difficulty with ketosis11:50 GI Issues: why digestive enzymes, butyrate don’t always work15:01 Low-Amylose, low-mold, AIP diets lead to carnivore17:07 Why carnivore/keto may not always work for CIRS21:05 Eat the meat you like, can afford, and makes you feel your best22:00 How to experiment with carbs23:10 Weight loss difficulty with CIRS25:27 Muscle gain difficulty with CIRS26:33 Leptin resistance28:20 Hypometabolism and gluconeogenesis29:19 Mobilizing fat stores can cause worsening symptoms
HELPFUL LINKS:Resource from Dr. Shoemaker on ways to eat to support healing on this protocol: https://www.survivingmold.com/legal-resources/community/week-of-may-8-2023
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a really complex, confusing illness with a treatment protocol to match. Today, we celebrate FIFTY EPISODES of TheCIRSGroup.com podcast. To celebrate, we offer a retrospective of how far CIRS has come even in the short time we’ve known about it (two years) and where we see it going from here. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
1:50 When we were first diagnosed vs now
3:50 Judy Cho’s pivotal role in CIRS awareness
5:00 Jordan Peterson interview w/Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. McMahon
7:29 Growing pains in the CIRS space
8:54 CIRSx conference
12:08 TheCIRSGroup.com - then and now
HELPFUL LINKS:
Judy Cho’s website: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/
Judy’s most impactful interview for CIRS awareness: https://youtu.be/-xt-0yJBGTs?si=euJXvOUQ5EcCmPGY
Jordan Peterson interview with Dr. Shoemaker and Dr. McMahon: https://youtu.be/LGG7om1hHcU?si=vX2lnk4eMg8oM1n6
CIRSx recap episodes (playlist): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtFmHRLGI2wHK62Iq4qOQqkxAwE9lkdpZ
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a really complex, confusing illness with a treatment protocol to match. Today, we are tackling a viewer request: other exposure sources besides homes. We’ll talk about what to do if you suspect one of these sources might be keeping you sick: your workplace, gym, salon, roommates, loved ones, and even your pets! For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer0:36 The first step of the Shoemaker Protocol: remove exposure1:29 Workplace exposure3:40 Changing jobs or starting a business as an option5:56 Vehicle exposure8:20 Errands, hobbies, salons, gyms11:18 Other people: roommates, spouses, family, friends13:17 Pets, animals
HELPFUL LINKS (NOT affiliate!):ZeroRez for car and carpet cleaning: https://www.zerorez.com/Defense soap: https://a.co/d/gJj76k4Defense soap wipes: https://a.co/d/gAjtCp8Tea Tree wipes: https://a.co/d/3xrcotbWipes for dogs: https://a.co/d/8y6uZj8Study on Staph and dogs: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870875/Episode we did on dogs w/CIRS: https://youtu.be/6e_IznfWDec?si=n1gj6jNkl4Bf1GIUShoemaker’s advice on treatment of dogs: https://www.survivingmold.com/physicians/dashboard/previous-membership-section-questions-and-answers
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is taxing on your body, mind, and spirit. To fully heal from this chronic condition, you need to attack it on all fronts. Today, we’re tackling the mind: Limbic retraining, or rewiring your brain, can actually reduce symptoms and get your mind out of fight or flight and into a relaxed state, primed for healing and wellness. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer0:43 Jacie’s passion for limbic retraining3:05 Permission to wait until you’re ready3:53 Limbic retraining is part of a holistic approach4:56 What is Limbic Retraining?8:14 Things that limbic retraining can improve:8:30 Mood regulation8:50 Fearing the gene or the biotoxins9:59 Believe you can heal, desire to heal10:44 Improving histamine responses11:10 Get a better baseline, resilience11:50 Ways of implementing limbic retraining
HELPFUL LINKS:The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph from the Frontiers of Brain Science: https://a.co/d/gSN9SYkDNRS: https://retrainingthebrain.com/Gupta: https://guptaprogram.com/Wired4Healing, where Jacie leads classes: https://wired4healing.com/Nutrition with Judy’s Mind Body program: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/nwj-mind-body-programThe Joy Plan by Kaia Roman: https://a.co/d/gn5Nyg2Join The CIRS Group for limbic retraining support: https://www.thecirsgroup.com/
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, is a complicated illness but thankfully certain prescription medications can actually help you heal from it. The medications we discuss today are all used by various Shoemaker certified practitioners for their patients with CIRS. If you are interested in any of these medications, check with your practitioner to see if it might work for you. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
TIME STAMPS:0:00 Intro and disclaimer1:25 Biotoxin Binders: Cholestyramine, Welchol4:53 Consideration for binder reactivity, and non-prescription option6:00 MARCoNs treatments: BEG, EDTA, Xlear, Silver8:46 MARCoNs spray for treatment in dogs10:54 VIP spray14:35 Low Dose Naltrexone for pain and low mood16:11 Cromolyn for MCAS or histamine issues
HELPFUL LINKS (not affiliate!):Mycobind: https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/shopping/immune-support/mycobindXlear: https://a.co/d/gosaTiVXlear with Coptis: https://waldenfarmacy.com/product/coptis-nasal-spray/Argentyn 23: https://a.co/d/ejtPaGNACS spray: https://a.co/d/3sEVpSwDogs and CIRS episode: https://youtu.be/6e_IznfWDec?si=dmiX7m76pC0ZhRjeGENIE episode: https://youtu.be/bCNp9qNqWWc?si=FsbE1cddXvBoFZds
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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For more information, visit https://thecirsgroup.com
This one hurts, guys. But it’s important. CIRS, or Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome, can be a painful, isolating, debilitating illness. Today, we’re sharing stories our members allowed us to bring to you so you might understand CIRS a little better, or at least find empathy in your heart for those that suffer with it. And if you have CIRS, then I hope this validates your experience, even if no one in your life does. Despite the pain and sadness, we hope this is a message of hope for healing. It will get better, healing is possible. For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com.
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Intro and disclaimer
3:00 Tobey
3:57 Chad
4:28 Rosie
5:16 Missy
6:21 Gabriella
6:42 Gerald
7:04 Gloriana
8:15 Chike
9:05 Natascha
9:43 Kimberly
10:30 CIRS Mom
11:53 Chase
12:27 Ariel
13:27 Dorothy
13:42 Terrance
14:27 Tiffany
14:46 Kirk
15:40 Alyssa
16:44 Wrap up
For more information, support, and resources in your own CIRS healing journey, visit TheCIRSGroup.com
Jacie is a 4 year carnivore, certified nutrition coach, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a coach, facilitator, speaker, 3 year carnivore, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
Catch Jacie and Barbara on Judy Cho's podcast to learn more about their health journeys and why they started The CIRS Group: When Carnivores are Affected by Mold Illness - Jacie Gregory & Barbara Williams - https://youtu.be/CR8Uj-d_fok
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