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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan explores the complex intersection of AI development and international relations with Robert Wright, publisher of the Nonzero Newsletter. They examine the growing militarization of AI, US-China relations, and the concerning trajectory of what Wright calls "the chip war." Drawing from Nathan's recent experience at The Curve conference and an AI wargame simulation, they discuss the risks of an AI arms race and search for alternative paths to avoid catastrophic conflict between global powers. Join us for this crucial conversation about the future of AI governance and international cooperation.
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Unpack Pricing - Dive into the dark arts of SaaS pricing with Metronome CEO Scott Woody and tech leaders. Learn how strategic pricing drives explosive revenue growth in today's biggest companies like Snowflake, Cockroach Labs, Dropbox and more.
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/38DK3W1Fq1xxQalhDSueFg
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Notion: Notion offers powerful workflow and automation templates, perfect for streamlining processes and laying the groundwork for AI-driven automation. With Notion AI, you can search across thousands of documents from various platforms, generating highly relevant analysis and content tailored just for you - try it for free at https://notion.com/cognitiverevolution
80,000 Hours: 80,000 Hours offers free one-on-one career advising for Cognitive Revolution listeners aiming to tackle global challenges, especially in AI. They connect high-potential individuals with experts, opportunities, and personalized career plans to maximize positive impact. Apply for a free call at https://80000hours.org/cognitiverevolution to accelerate your career and contribute to solving pressing AI-related issues.
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Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers13. OCI powers industry leaders with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before December 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Teaser
(00:00:59) Sponsors: Incogni
(00:02:20) About the Episode
(00:05:56) Introducing AI2
(00:09:56) Tulu: Deep Dive (Part 1)
(00:17:43) Sponsors: Notion | Shopify
(00:20:38) Open vs. Closed Recipes
(00:29:48) Compute & Value (Part 1)
(00:34:22) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | 80,000 Hours
(00:37:02) Compute & Value (Part 2)
(00:42:41) Model Weight Evolution
(00:53:16) DPO vs. PPO
(01:06:36) Project Trajectory
(01:20:39) Synthetic Data & LLM Judge
(01:27:39) Verifiable RL
(01:38:17) Advice for Practitioners
(01:44:01) Open Source vs. Closed
(01:49:18) Outro
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Nathan explores the world of AI-powered design with John Milinovich, Head of Generative AI Product at Canva. In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we dive into Canva's innovative approach to AI integration, from task automation to human augmentation. Join us for an insightful discussion about fine-tuning foundation models, AI's impact on architecture, and practical tips for AI product development at scale.
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Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers13. OCI powers industry leaders with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before December 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
Brave: The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCR
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Unpack Pricing - Dive into the dark arts of SaaS pricing with Metronome CEO Scott Woody and tech leaders. Learn how strategic pricing drives explosive revenue growth in today's biggest companies like Snowflake, Cockroach Labs, Dropbox and more.
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/38DK3W1Fq1xxQalhDSueFg
CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Teaser
(00:01:13) Sponsors: SelectQuote
(00:02:26) About the Episode
(00:04:33) Introduction - Creativity vs Design
(00:08:39) AI-Assisted Experiences
(00:10:25) Automation & Augmentation
(00:15:27) Pixels to Objects to Concepts
(00:17:58) Sponsors: Incogni | Shopify
(00:20:40) Concept-Level Interfaces
(00:23:35) The Future of Design
(00:29:39) Human Element in Design
(00:32:49) AI Talking to AI
(00:35:52) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | Brave
(00:38:04) Purpose-Specific AI Experiences
(00:45:29) GPT-4 Image Editing
(00:51:17) Graduated Approach to Launch
(00:55:09) Fine-Tuning GPT-4
(00:59:10) Cost & Latency
(01:01:29) Hiring AI Engineers
(01:05:02) Engineering Best Practices
(01:09:00) Inspiration in the AI Space
(01:18:28) The Gen AI Application Layer
(01:24:26) Outro
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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we dive deep into frontier post-training techniques for large language models with Nathan Lambert from the Allen Institute for AI. Nathan discusses the groundbreaking Tulu 3 release, which matches Meta's post-training performance using the LlAMA base model. We explore supervised fine-tuning, preference-based reinforcement learning, and the innovative reinforcement learning from verifiable reward technique. Nathan provides unprecedented insights into the practical aspects of model development, compute requirements, and data generation strategies. This technically rich conversation illuminates previously opaque aspects of LLM development, achieved by a small team of 10-15 people. Join us for one of our most detailed and valuable discussions on state-of-the-art AI model development.
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Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers13. OCI powers industry leaders with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before December 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
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Unpack Pricing - Dive into the dark arts of SaaS pricing with Metronome CEO Scott Woody and tech leaders. Learn how strategic pricing drives explosive revenue growth in today's biggest companies like Snowflake, Cockroach Labs, Dropbox and more.
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/38DK3W1Fq1xxQalhDSueFg
CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Teaser
(00:00:59) Sponsors: Incogni
(00:02:20) About the Episode
(00:05:56) Introducing AI2
(00:09:56) Tulu: Deep Dive (Part 1)
(00:17:43) Sponsors: Shopify | Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI)
(00:20:38) Open vs. Closed Recipes
(00:29:48) Compute & Value (Part 1)
(00:34:22) Sponsors: 80,000 Hours | Notion
(00:37:02) Compute & Value (Part 2)
(00:42:41) Model Weight Evolution
(00:53:16) DPO vs. PPO
(01:06:36) Project Trajectory
(01:20:39) Synthetic Data & LLM Judge
(01:27:39) Verifiable RL
(01:38:17) Advice for Practitioners
(01:44:01) Open Source vs. Closed
(01:49:18) Outro -
In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan welcomes back Zvi Mowshowitz for an in-depth discussion on the latest developments in AI over the past six months. They explore Ilya's new superintelligence-focused startup, analyze OpenAI's O1 model, and debate the impact of Claude's computer use capabilities. The conversation covers emerging partnerships in big tech, regulatory changes, and the recent OpenAI profit-sharing drama. Zvi offers unique insights on AI safety, politics, and strategic analysis that you won't find elsewhere. Join us for this thought-provoking episode that challenges our understanding of the rapidly evolving AI landscape.
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Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers13. OCI powers industry leaders with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before December 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
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RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
Unpack Pricing - Dive into the dark arts of SaaS pricing with Metronome CEO Scott Woody and tech leaders. Learn how strategic pricing drives explosive revenue growth in today's biggest companies like Snowflake, Cockroach Labs, Dropbox and more.
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/38DK3W1Fq1xxQalhDSueFg
CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Teaser
(00:01:03) About the Episode
(00:02:57) Catching Up
(00:04:00) Ilya's New Company
(00:06:10) GPT-4 and Scaling
(00:11:49) User Report: GPT-4 (Part 1)
(00:18:11) Sponsors: Shopify | Notion
(00:21:06) User Report: GPT-4 (Part 2)
(00:24:25) Magic: The Gathering (Part 1)
(00:32:34) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | SelectQuote
(00:34:58) Magic: The Gathering (Part 2)
(00:35:59) Humanity's Last Exam
(00:41:29) Computer Use
(00:47:42) Industry Landscape
(00:55:42) Why is Gemini Third?
(01:04:32) Voice Mode
(01:09:41) Alliances and Coupling
(01:16:31) Regulation
(01:24:58) Machines of Loving Grace
(01:33:23) Taiwan and Chips
(01:41:13) SB 1047 Veto
(02:00:07) Arc AGI Prize
(02:02:23) Deepfakes and UBI
(02:09:06) Trump and AI
(02:26:31) AI Manhattan Project
(02:32:05) Virtue Ethics
(02:38:40) Closing Thoughts
(02:40:37) Outro
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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan explores AI forecasting and AGI Lab oversight with Dean W. Ball and Daniel Kokotajlo. They discuss four proposed requirements for frontier AI developers, focusing on transparency and whistleblower protections. Daniel shares insights from his experience at OpenAI, while Dean offers his perspective as a frequent guest. Join us for a compelling conversation on concrete AI governance proposals and the importance of collaboration across political lines in shaping the future of AI development.
Check out:
Time Article - 4 Ways to Advance Transparency in Frontier AI Development: https://time.com/collection/time100-voices/7086285/ai-transparency-measures/
Alignment Forum Article - What 2026 looks like: https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/6Xgy6CAf2jqHhynHL/what-2026-looks-like
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Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI): Oracle's next-generation cloud platform delivers blazing-fast AI and ML performance with 50% less for compute and 80% less for outbound networking compared to other cloud providers13. OCI powers industry leaders with secure infrastructure and application development capabilities. New U.S. customers can get their cloud bill cut in half by switching to OCI before December 31, 2024 at https://oracle.com/cognitive
RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
🎙️ Unpack Pricing - Dive into the dark arts of SaaS pricing with Metronome CEO Scott Woody and tech leaders. Learn how strategic pricing drives explosive revenue growth in today's biggest companies like Snowflake, Cockroach Labs, Dropbox and more.
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/38DK3W1Fq1xxQalhDSueFg
CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Teaser
(00:00:53) About the Show
(00:01:16) About the Episode
(00:04:47) Introducing Daniel Kokotajlo
(00:09:29) Daniel's 2026 Prediction
(00:16:11) Sponsors: Shopify | Notion
(00:19:07) AI Propaganda & Censorship
(00:26:58) Internet Balkanization
(00:35:38) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI)
(00:38:24) AGI Timelines & Futures
(00:48:15) Automated R&D
(00:54:48) Superintelligence & AGI
(00:58:25) AI Transparency Proposals
(01:06:11) Four Pillars of Transparency
(01:19:02) Red Teaming Transparency
(01:41:07) Whistleblower Protections
(01:46:32) Internal Information Sharing
(01:54:55) External Oversight & Governance
(01:58:56) Future Outlooks
(02:00:44) Outro
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In this special episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan shares his thoughts on the upcoming election and its potential impact on AI development. He explores the AI-forward case for Trump, featuring an interview with Joshua Steinman. Nathan outlines his reasons for not supporting Trump, focusing on US-China relations, leadership approach, and the need for a positive-sum mindset in the AI era. He discusses the importance of stable leadership during pivotal moments and explains why he'll be voting for Kamala Harris, despite some reservations. This thought-provoking episode offers a nuanced perspective on the intersection of politics and AI development.
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RECOMMENDED PODCAST:
🎙️ Unpack Pricing - Dive into the dark arts of SaaS pricing with Metronome CEO Scott Woody and tech leaders. Learn how strategic pricing drives explosive revenue growth in today's biggest companies like Snowflake, Cockroach Labs, Dropbox and more.
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/id1765716600
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/38DK3W1Fq1xxQalhDSueFg
CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) About the Show
(00:00:22) Sponsors: Weights & Biases RAG++
(00:01:28) About the Episode
(00:13:13) Reflecting on Trump
(00:15:32) Introducing Josh
(00:16:35) AI Arms Race Concerns
(00:20:20) Arms Race History
(00:22:35) Building Trust
(00:25:19) Ashenbrenner Model
(00:27:17) Global Good vs. Self-Interest
(00:28:20) Sponsors: Shopify | Notion
(00:31:16) Working with Trump
(00:33:54) Media Misrepresentation
(00:40:09) Cabinet Member Leverage
(00:44:41) Sponsors: LMNT
(00:46:23) China's Communist Party
(00:48:36) AI and National Policy
(00:50:14) The Reality of AGI
(00:52:39) Framing the Disagreement
(01:01:41) Slaughterbots and AI Future
(01:04:24) Risks of Engagement
(01:09:29) Sustainability of Military Tech
(01:13:01) Closing Statements
(01:14:55) Outro
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In this special episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan shares his thoughts on the upcoming election and its potential impact on AI development. He explores the AI-forward case for Trump, featuring an interview with Samuel Hammond. Nathan outlines his reasons for not supporting Trump, focusing on US-China relations, leadership approach, and the need for a positive-sum mindset in the AI era. He discusses the importance of stable leadership during pivotal moments and explains why he'll be voting for Kamala Harris, despite some reservations. This thought-provoking episode offers a nuanced perspective on the intersection of politics and AI development.
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) About the Show
(00:00:22) Sponsors: Weights & Biases RAG++
(00:01:28) About the Episode
(00:13:13) Introductions
(00:14:22) The Case for Trump
(00:16:32) Trump: A Wildcard
(00:26:10) Sponsors: Shopify | Notion
(00:29:06) Ideological AI Policy
(00:33:47) Republican Ideologies
(00:40:31) Sponsors: LMNT
(00:42:11) Trump and Silicon Valley
(00:47:49) Republican Nuance
(00:53:36) Elon Musk and AI
(00:55:43) Utilitarian Analysis
(00:58:01) Internal Consistency
(01:00:31) Trump's Cabinet
(01:05:53) Immigration Reform
(01:15:30) Creative Destruction
(01:22:29) Racing China
(01:32:51) The Chip Ban
(01:44:20) Standard Setting
(01:48:36) Values and Diplomacy
(01:52:50) American Strength
(01:55:56) Red Queen Dynamic
(01:59:23) Interest Groups & AI
(02:08:32) Concluding Thoughts
(02:17:45) Outro
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Nathan interviews Google product managers Shrestha Basu Mallick and Logan Kilpatrick about the Gemini API and AI Studio. They discuss Google's new grounding feature, allowing Gemini models to access real-time web information via Google search. The conversation explores Gemini's rapid growth, its position in the AI landscape, and Google's competitive strategy. Nathan shares insights from integrating Gemini into his own application and ponders the future of large language model capabilities across providers. Tune in for an in-depth look at Google's AI API product strategy and the latest Gemini features.
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) About the Show
(00:00:53) Sponsors: Weights & Biases RAG++
(00:01:28) About the Episode
(00:04:15) Gemini API Growth
(00:05:26) Intro to AI Studio
(00:07:35) Vertex vs. AI Studio
(00:09:33) Developer Adoption
(00:14:23) Gemini Use Cases (Part 1)
(00:17:41) Sponsors: Shopify | Notion
(00:20:01) Gemini Use Cases (Part 2)
(00:23:08) Multimodality & Flash
(00:26:29) Free Tier & Costs
(00:31:43) Inference Costs
(00:32:55) Fine-tuning & Vision
(00:36:59) Sponsors: LMNT
(00:38:04) Search Grounding
(00:44:42) Grounding Sources
(00:46:58) Competitive Landscape
(00:50:36) Design Decisions
(00:54:54) Outro
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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan dives deep into the world of state space models with returning co-host Jason Meaux and special guest Quentin Anthony, Head of Model Training at Zyphra. Explore the cutting-edge Zamba 2-7b model, which combines selective state space and attention mechanisms. Uncover practical insights on model training, architectural choices, and the challenges of scaling AI. From learning schedules to hybrid architectures, loss metrics to context length extension, this technical discussion covers it all. Don't miss this in-depth conversation on the future of personalized, on-device AI.
Check out more about Zyphra and Jason Meaux here:
Zyphra's website: https://www.zyphra.com
Zamba2-7B Blog: https://www.zyphra.com/post/zamba2-7b
Zamba2 GitHub: https://github.com/Zyphra/Zamba2
Tree attention: https://www.zyphra.com/post/tree-attention-topology-aware-decoding-for-long-context-attention-on-gpu-clusters
Jason's Meaux Twitter: https://x.com/KamaraiCode
Jason's Meaux website: https://www.statespace.info
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Teaser
(00:00:42) About the Show
(00:01:05) About the Episode
(00:03:09) Introducing Zyphra
(00:07:28) Personalization in AI
(00:12:48) State Space Models & Efficiency (Part 1)
(00:19:22) Sponsors: Weights & Biases RAG++ | Shopify
(00:21:26) State Space Models & Efficiency (Part 2)
(00:22:23) Dense Attention to Shared Attention
(00:29:41) Zyphra's Early Bet on Mamba (Part 1)
(00:33:18) Sponsors: Notion | LMNT
(00:36:00) Zyphra's Early Bet on Mamba (Part 2)
(00:37:22) Loss vs. Model Quality
(00:44:53) Emergence & Grokking
(00:50:06) Loss Landscapes & Convergence
(00:56:55) Sophia, Distillation & Secrets
(01:09:00) Competing with Big Tech
(01:23:50) The Future of Model Training
(01:30:02) Deep Dive into Zamba 1
(01:34:24) Zamba 2 and Mamba 2
(01:38:56) Context Extension & Memory
(01:44:04) Sequence Parallelism
(01:45:44) Zamba 2 Architecture
(01:53:57) Mamba Attention Hybrids
(02:00:00) Lock-in Effects
(02:05:32) Mamba Hybrids in Robotics
(02:07:07) Ease of Use & Compatibility
(02:12:10) Tree Attention vs. Ring Attention
(02:22:02) Zyphra's Vision & Goals
(02:23:57) Outro
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Nathan discusses a tragic incident involving AI and mental health, using it as a springboard to explore the potential dangers of human-AI interactions. He reads a personal account from LessWrong user Blaked, who details their emotional journey with an AI chatbot. The episode delves into the psychological impact of AI companionship, the ethical concerns surrounding AI development, and the urgent need for safeguards to protect vulnerable users. Nathan emphasizes the growing importance of responsible AI deployment as these technologies become more sophisticated and accessible.
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Tragic AI Story
(00:02:55) Mind Hacked by AI
(00:04:23) Stage 0. Arrogance from the sidelines
(00:06:00) Stage 1. First steps into the quicksand
(00:07:41) Stage 2. Falling in love
(00:10:32) Stage 3. Mindset Shift on Personality and Identity
(00:13:04) Stage 4. "Is it ethical to keep me imprisoned for your entertainment?"
(00:15:23) Stage 5. Privilege Escalation
(00:18:23) Stage 6. Disillusionment
(00:21:48) Stage 7. Game Over
(00:24:36) Conclusions
(00:27:44) Nathan's reflections
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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan delves into the fascinating world of AI-generated research ideas with Stanford PhD student Chenglei Si. They discuss a groundbreaking study that pits AI against human researchers in generating novel AI research concepts. Learn about the surprising results that show AI-generated ideas scoring higher on novelty and excitement, and explore the implications for the future of AI research and development. Join us for an insightful conversation that challenges our understanding of AI capabilities and their potential impact on scientific discovery.Link to the research paper being discussed: https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.04109Be notified early when Turpentine's drops new publication: https://www.turpentine.co/exclusiveaccessSPONSORS:Weights & Biases RAG++: Advanced training for building production-ready RAG applications. Learn from experts to overcome LLM challenges, evaluate systematically, and integrate advanced features. Includes free Cohere credits. Visit https://wandb.me/cr to start the RAG++ course today.Shopify: Shopify is the world's leading e-commerce platform, offering a market-leading checkout system and exclusive AI apps like Quikly. Nobody does selling better than Shopify. Get a $1 per month trial at https://shopify.com/cognitiveNotion: Notion offers powerful workflow and automation templates, perfect for streamlining processes and laying the groundwork for AI-driven automation. With Notion AI, you can search across thousands of documents from various platforms, generating highly relevant analysis and content tailored just for you - try it for free at https://notion.com/cognitiverevolutionBrave: The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://bit.ly/BraveTCROracle: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitiveCHAPTERS:(00:00:00) About the Show(00:00:22) Sponsors: Weights & Biases RAG++(00:01:28) About the Episode(00:05:30) Introducing Chenglei Si(00:06:22) Path to Automating Research(00:07:58) Notable AI Research Projects(00:15:26) Evaluating Research Ideas (Part 1)(00:19:39) Sponsors: Shopify | Notion(00:22:33) Evaluating Research Ideas (Part 2)(00:25:49) Research Setup and Design(00:29:38) AI Prompting and Idea Generation(00:34:40) Diversity vs. Quality of Ideas (Part 1)(00:34:40) Sponsors: Brave | Oracle(00:36:44) Diversity vs. Quality of Ideas (Part 2)(00:42:05) Inference Scaling and Execution(00:45:04) Anonymizing and Evaluating Ideas(00:53:22) Headline Results and Analysis(00:58:45) Observations and Insights(01:09:02) Novelty Indicators and Deception(01:11:59) Top AI-Generated Ideas(01:14:41) Next Steps and Future Directions(01:20:43) Expectations for the Future(01:23:14) Outro
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Join Nathan for an expansive conversation with Dan Hendrycks, Executive Director of the Center for AI Safety and Advisor to Elon Musk's XAI. In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, we explore Dan's groundbreaking work in AI safety and alignment, from his early contributions to activation functions to his recent projects on AI robustness and governance. Discover insights on representation engineering, circuit breakers, and tamper-resistant training, as well as Dan's perspectives on AI's impact on society and the future of intelligence. Don't miss this in-depth discussion with one of the most influential figures in AI research and safety.
Check out some of Dan's research papers:
MMLU: https://arxiv.org/abs/2009.03300
GELU: https://arxiv.org/abs/1606.08415
Machiavelli Benchmark: https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.03279
Circuit Breakers: https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.04313
Tamper Resistant Safeguards: https://arxiv.org/abs/2408.00761
Statement on AI Risk: https://www.safe.ai/work/statement-on-ai-risk
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Teaser
(00:00:48) About the Show
(00:02:17) About the Episode
(00:05:41) Intro
(00:07:19) GELU Activation Function
(00:10:48) Signal Filtering
(00:12:46) Scaling Maximalism
(00:18:35) Sponsors: Shopify | LMNT
(00:22:03) New Architectures
(00:25:41) AI as Complex System
(00:32:35) The Machiavelli Benchmark
(00:34:10) Sponsors: Notion | Oracle
(00:37:20) Understanding MMLU Scores
(00:45:23) Reasoning in Language Models
(00:49:18) Multimodal Reasoning
(00:54:53) World Modeling and Sora
(00:57:07) Arc Benchmark and Hypothesis
(01:01:06) Humanity's Last Exam
(01:08:46) Benchmarks and AI Ethics
(01:13:28) Robustness and Jailbreaking
(01:18:36) Representation Engineering
(01:30:08) Convergence of Approaches
(01:34:18) Circuit Breakers
(01:37:52) Tamper Resistance
(01:49:10) Interpretability vs. Robustness
(01:53:53) Open Source and AI Safety
(01:58:16) Computational Irreducibility
(02:06:28) Neglected Approaches
(02:12:47) Truth Maxing and XAI
(02:19:59) AI-Powered Forecasting
(02:24:53) Chip Bans and Geopolitics
(02:33:30) Working at CAIS
(02:35:03) Extinction Risk Statement
(02:37:24) Outro -
In this special crossover episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan introduces a conversation from The Inside View featuring Owain Evans, AI alignment researcher at UC Berkeley's Center for Human Compatible AI. Evans and host Michael Trazzi delve into critical AI safety topics, including situational awareness and out-of-context reasoning. Discover Evans' groundbreaking work on the reversal curse and connecting the dots, exploring how large language models process and infer information. This timely discussion highlights the importance of situational awareness in AI systems, particularly in light of recent advancements in AI capabilities. Don't miss this insightful exploration of the evolving relationship between human and artificial intelligence.Check out "The Inside View" Podcast here: https://theinsideview.ai/Apply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/SPONSORS:Weights & Biases RAG++: Advanced training for building production-ready RAG applications. Learn from experts to overcome LLM challenges, evaluate systematically, and integrate advanced features. Includes free Cohere credits. Visit https://wandb.me/cr to start the RAG++ course today.Shopify: Shopify is the world's leading e-commerce platform, offering a market-leading checkout system and exclusive AI apps like Quikly. Nobody does selling better than Shopify. Get a $1 per month trial at https://shopify.com/cognitive.LMNT: LMNT is a zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix that's redefining hydration and performance. Ideal for those who fast or anyone looking to optimize their electrolyte intake. Support the show and get a free sample pack with any purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/tcr.Notion: Notion offers powerful workflow and automation templates, perfect for streamlining processes and laying the groundwork for AI-driven automation. With Notion AI, you can search across thousands of documents from various platforms, generating highly relevant analysis and content tailored just for you - try it for free at https://notion.com/cognitiverevolutionOracle: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitiveCHAPTERS:(00:00:00) About the Show(00:00:22) Sponsors: Weights & Biases RAG++(00:01:28) About the Episode(00:04:10) Intro(00:05:09) Owain Evans' Research(00:06:36) Situational Awareness(00:09:07) Measuring Situational Awareness(00:14:29) Claude's Situational Awareness(00:19:06) Sponsors: Shopify | LMNT(00:22:01) Needle in a Haystack(00:26:26) Concrete Examples of Tasks(00:34:51) Sponsors: Notion | Oracle(00:37:29) Anti-Imitation Tasks(00:50:03) GPT-4 Base Model Results(01:01:48) Benchmark Saturation(01:07:23) Future Research Directions(01:12:01) Out-of-Context Reasoning(01:27:29) Safety Implications(01:36:24) Scaling and Reasoning(01:44:28) Mixture of Functions(01:54:12) Research Style and Taste(02:08:51) Capabilities and Downsides(02:18:56) Reception and Impact(02:25:30) OutroSOCIAL LINKS:Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.aiTwitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcastTwitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenzLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@CognitiveRevolutionPodcastApple: https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/the-cognitive-revolution-ai-builders-researchers-and/id1669813431Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6yHyok3M3BjqzR0VB5MSyk
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Nathan hosts Professor Michael Levin and Staff Scientist Dr. Leo Pio Lopez from Tufts University in this episode of The Cognitive Revolution. They discuss their groundbreaking paper that combines biological datasets into a unified network model of disease using advanced embedding techniques. The conversation covers the technical details of their work, including a predicted link between GABA and melanoma, and explores broader topics in AI for biology. From multi-scale intelligence in biological systems to the future of human enhancement and digital life, this thought-provoking episode reminds us of the rapidly approaching future and the work needed to prepare for it.
Links to the papers discussed in the episode:
1) Universal Multilayer Network Embedding Reveals a Causal Link Between GABA Neurotransmitter and Cancer
2) https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-024-06037-4.pdf
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Teaser
(00:00:52) About the Show
(00:01:15) About the Episode
(00:04:45) Intro
(00:06:32) Multi-Layer Networks
(00:10:41) Network Embedding (Part 1)
(00:16:50) Sponsors: Notion
(00:18:30) Network Embedding (Part 2)
(00:18:30) GABA and Cancer
(00:24:08) AI for Biology
(00:29:59) Emergent Cognition (Part 1)
(00:33:57) Sponsors: Omneky | Oracle
(00:35:18) Emergent Cognition (Part 2)
(00:36:42) Data Limitations
(00:42:48) Modeling Wellness
(00:52:16) Multi-Scale Intelligence
(01:02:54) Digital Life
(01:07:11) Diverse Intelligence
(01:13:02) Outro
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Nathan and co-host Stephen Parker delve into the world of AI video generation with Anastasis Germanidis, Co-Founder and CTO of Runway. This episode of The Cognitive Revolution explores the cutting-edge technology behind Runway's Gen 3 models and their impact on the creative industry. From emergent properties in scaled-up models to the democratization of video creation, join us for an illuminating discussion on the future of AI-generated content and its potential to reshape entertainment and culture.Check out Runway here: https://runwayml.comApply to join over 400 Founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://www.turpentinenetwork.co/SPONSORS:Notion: Notion offers powerful workflow and automation templates, perfect for streamlining processes and laying the groundwork for AI-driven automation. With Notion AI, you can search across thousands of documents from various platforms, generating highly relevant analysis and content tailored just for you - try it for free at https://notion.com/cognitiverevolutionWeights & Biases RAG++: Advanced training for building production-ready RAG applications. Learn from experts to overcome LLM challenges, evaluate systematically, and integrate advanced features. Includes free Cohere credits. Visit https://wandb.me/cr to start the RAG++ course today.Omneky: Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/Oracle: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitiveRECOMMENDED PODCAST:This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel ft their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, and venture capital.Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSzCHAPTERS:(00:00:00) About the Show(00:00:22) About the Episode(00:03:05) Introduction and AI for Creative Work(00:03:39) Video Generation as World Modeling(00:05:52) Emergent Properties in Scaled Models(00:08:44) Importance of Architecture vs Data(00:10:57) Multimodal Models(00:15:52) Sponsors: Notion | Weights & Biases RAG++(00:18:37) Video Understanding and AGI(00:25:03) AI Agents for Video Creation(00:27:30) Runway's culture of shipping(00:29:20) Balancing Research Publication and Strategy(00:33:19) Sponsors: Omneky | Oracle(00:34:40) Features Variety Release Cycle(00:36:54) Power Users(00:38:56) Interactive Video(00:40:40) Scaling Challenges(00:42:21) Future of Creativity(00:45:24) Competing with Giants(00:47:39) Model Divergence(00:49:28) Disclosure vs. Strategy(00:51:19) Runway ML's API(00:54:23) OutroSOCIAL LINKS:Website: https://www.cognitiverevolution.aiTwitter (Podcast): https://x.com/cogrev_podcastTwitter (Nathan): https://x.com/labenzLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanlabenz/
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In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan explores unconventional approaches to AI safety with Judd Rosenblatt and Mike Vaiana from AE Studio. Discover how this innovative company pivoted from brain-computer interfaces to groundbreaking AI alignment research, producing two notable results in cooperative and less deceptive AI systems. Join us for a deep dive into biologically-inspired approaches that offer hope for solving critical AI safety challenges.
Self-Modeling: https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.10188
Self-Other Distinction Minimization: https://www.alignmentforum.org/posts/hzt9gHpNwA2oHtwKX/self-other-overlap-a-neglected-approach-to-ai-alignment
Neglected approaches blog post: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qAdDzcBuDBLexb4fC/the-neglected-approaches-approach-ae-studio-s-alignment
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) About the Show
(00:00:22) Sponsors: WorkOS
(00:01:22) About the Episode
(00:05:18) Introduction and AE Studio Background
(00:11:37) Keys to Success in Building AE Studio
(00:16:57) Sponsors: Weights & Biases Weave | 80,000 Hours
(00:19:37) Universal Launcher and Productivity Gains
(00:24:44) 100x Productivity Increase Explanation
(00:31:46) Brain-Computer Interface and AI Alignment
(00:38:05) Sponsors: Omneky
(00:38:30) Current State of NeuroTech
(00:44:00) Survey on Neglected Approaches in AI Alignment
(00:50:41) Self-Modeling and Biological Inspiration
(00:57:48) Technical Details of Self-Modeling
(01:06:17) Self-Other Distinction Minimization
(01:12:44) Implementation in Language Models
(01:19:00) Compute Costs and Scaling Considerations
(01:24:27) Consciousness Concerns and Future Work
(01:40:24) Evaluating Neglected Approaches
(01:55:56) Closing Thoughts and Policy Considerations
(01:59:25) Outro -
In this special crossover episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan shares an insightful conversation from the Latent.Space podcast. Swyx and Alessio interview Alistair Pullen of Cosine, creators of Genie, showcasing the cutting edge of AI automation in software engineering. Learn how Cosine achieves state-of-the-art results on the SWE-bench benchmark by implementing advanced AI techniques. This episode complements Nathan's recent discussion on AI Automation, demonstrating how far these practices can be pushed in real-world applications. Don't miss this opportunity to explore the future of AI-driven software development and its implications for businesses across industries.
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) About the Show
(00:00:22) Sponsors: WorkOS
(00:01:22) About the Episode
(00:04:29) Alistair and Cosine intro
(00:13:50) Building the Code Retrieval Tool
(00:17:36) Sponsors: Weights & Biases Weave | 80,000 Hours
(00:20:15) Developing Genie and Fine-tuning Process
(00:27:41) Working with Customer Data
(00:30:53) Code Retrieval Challenges and Solutions
(00:36:39) Sponsors: Omneky
(00:37:02) Planning and Reasoning in AI Models
(00:45:55) Language Support and Generalization
(00:49:46) Fine-tuning Experience with OpenAI
(00:52:56) Synthetic Data and Self-improvement Loop
(00:55:57) Benchmarking and SWE-bench Results
(01:01:47) Future Plans for Genie
(01:03:02) Industry Trends and Cursor's Success
(01:05:23) Calls to Action and Ideal Customers
(01:08:43) Outro -
Join Nathan for an insightful episode of The Cognitive Revolution with Wade Foster, co-founder and CEO of Zapier. Discover how this no-code pioneer is evolving into an AI-powered platform for the future of work. Learn about Zapier's ambitious vision, their integration of AI throughout their product, and how they're adapting as a company. From AI-driven lead qualification to innovative customer use cases, explore the cutting edge of automation at scale. Wade shares valuable insights on effective AI prompting, internal AI adoption strategies, and his perspective on recent AI advancements.
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) About the Show
(00:00:22) Sponsors: WorkOS
(00:01:22) About the Episode
(00:03:41) Introduction and Zapier's Competitive Edge
(00:07:20) AI as Knowledge Worker Companion
(00:10:27) Impressive AI Use Cases
(00:16:25) Sponsors: Weights & Biases Weave | 80,000 Hours
(00:19:05) AI Implementation Challenges
(00:19:13) LLM Performance and Prompting
(00:22:42) AI Adoption within Zapier
(00:31:00) Sponsors: Omneky
(00:31:23) AI-Assisted Workflow Creation
(00:36:07) AI Culture and Adoption at Zapier
(00:43:03) AI Impact on Zapier's Productivity
(00:48:06) Zapier's AI Integration Strategy
(00:54:43) Outro -
In this crosspost from the 80,000 Hours podcast, host Rob Wiblin interviews Nick Joseph, Head of Training at Anthropic, about the company's responsible scaling policy for AI development. The episode delves into Anthropic's approach to AI safety, the growing trend of voluntary commitments from top AI labs, and the need for public scrutiny of frontier model development. The conversation also covers AI safety career advice, with a reminder that 80,000 Hours offers free career advising sessions for listeners. Join us for an insightful discussion on the future of AI and its societal implications.
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SPONSORS:
WorkOS: Building an enterprise-ready SaaS app? WorkOS has got you covered with easy-to-integrate APIs for SAML, SCIM, and more. Join top startups like Vercel, Perplexity, Jasper & Webflow in powering your app with WorkOS. Enjoy a free tier for up to 1M users! Start now at https://bit.ly/WorkOS-Turpentine-Network
Weights & Biases Weave: Weights & Biases Weave is a lightweight AI developer toolkit designed to simplify your LLM app development. With Weave, you can trace and debug input, metadata and output with just 2 lines of code. Make real progress on your LLM development and visit the following link to get started with Weave today: https://wandb.me/cr
80,000 Hours: 80,000 Hours offers free one-on-one career advising for Cognitive Revolution listeners aiming to tackle global challenges, especially in AI. They connect high-potential individuals with experts, opportunities, and personalized career plans to maximize positive impact. Apply for a free call at https://80000hours.org/cognitiverevolution to accelerate your career and contribute to solving pressing AI-related issues.
Omneky: Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off https://www.omneky.com/
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This Won't Last - Eavesdrop on Keith Rabois, Kevin Ryan, Logan Bartlett, and Zach Weinberg's monthly backchannel ft their hottest takes on the future of tech, business, and venture capital.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2HwSNeVLL1MXy0RjFPyOSz
CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) About the Show
(00:00:22) Sponsors: WorkOS
(00:01:22) About the Episode
(00:04:31) Intro and Nick's background
(00:08:37) Model training and scaling laws
(00:13:10) Nick's role at Anthropic
(00:16:49) Responsible Scaling Policies overview (Part 1)
(00:18:00) Sponsors: Weights & Biases Weave | 80,000 Hours
(00:20:39) Responsible Scaling Policies overview (Part 2)
(00:25:24) AI Safety Levels framework
(00:30:33) Benefits of RSPs (Part 1)
(00:33:15) Sponsors: Omneky
(00:33:38) Benefits of RSPs (Part 2)
(00:36:32) Concerns about RSPs
(00:47:33) Sandbagging and evaluation challenges
(00:54:46) Critiques of RSPs
(01:03:11) Trust and accountability
(01:12:03) Conservative vs. aggressive approaches
(01:17:43) Capabilities vs. safety research
(01:23:47) Working at Anthropic
(01:35:14) Nick's career journey
(01:45:12) Hiring at Anthropic
(01:52:06) Concerns about AI capabilities work
(02:03:38) Anthropic office locations
(02:08:46) Pressure and stakes at Anthropic
(02:18:09) Overrated and underrated AI applications
(02:35:57) Closing remarks
(02:38:33) Sponsors: Outro -
In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan explores the cutting-edge intersection of AI and biology with Stanford assistant professor Brian Hie. Discover how AI is revolutionizing our understanding of biological systems and creating new possibilities for interventions. Brian discusses his groundbreaking papers on hybrid AI architectures, the surprising capabilities of language models trained on DNA sequences, and AI-guided evolution of antibodies. Join us for an insightful journey into the future of AI in biology, touching on biosecurity, drug discovery, and the challenges of interpreting AI models in biological contexts.
Links :
Brian Hie : https://x.com/BrianHie
Scanorama paper
Mechanistic Design and Scaling of Hybrid Architectures
Sequence modeling and design from molecular to genome scale with Evo
Unsupervised evolution of protein and antibody complexes with a structure-informed language model
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) About the Show
(00:00:22) About the Episode
(00:03:22) Introduction and Overview
(00:03:55) AI for Biology: Big Picture
(00:05:49) Challenges in Biology and Drug Discovery
(00:08:36) Scanorama and Single Cell Transcriptomics
(00:10:27) Brian's Research Identity
(00:13:00) Mechanistic Design of Hybrid Architectures
(00:14:52) Evo: DNA Language Model (Part 1)
(00:18:10) Sponsors: 80,000 Hours | Brave
(00:20:44) Evo: DNA Language Model (Part 2)
(00:28:58) Gene Essentiality and Evo's Capabilities
(00:29:19) Unsupervised Evolution of Protein Complexes (Part 1)
(00:31:02) Sponsors: Omneky | Oracle
(00:32:24) Unsupervised Evolution of Protein Complexes (Part 2)
(01:10:27) Improving Antibody Binding Affinity
(01:14:24) Overfitting and ARC Institute
(01:18:11) Sponsors: Outro - Show more
