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Our friend Sunitha Rao came from humble beginnings.
Her parents spent most of their lives in one of the poorest regions in India.
Despite all odds, Suni became a professional tennis player and traveled the globe playing in different tournaments.
Years later, she turned her competitive nature toward real estate.
Her real estate career quickly started to explode, and she's been addicted ever since.
This episode originally aired in 2019, but it was so good, we decided to replay it.
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Suni's Original Episode from 2019
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2,000,000 downloads!
And it's all thanks to listeners, viewers, and readers like yourself.
In today's episode, we reflect on everything that has changed and everything that hasn't.
Cody & Justin have increased their net worths by a combined $5,000,000!
Justin retired 10 years sooner than he ever imagined.
Cody created a multi-seven-figure business around an idea he never even considered.
Those are just a couple of big highlights with other highlights including:
New Investment Strategies
Flips
AirBnB - ownership and management
Covered Calls
Syndications
Hard Money Loans
Lifestyle Changes
Girlfriends have become Wife/Fiance
Justin stopped drinking
Cody and Justin are in even better physical shape than 6 years ago
They both focus more on value than purely price
Justin listens to EDM and drinks coffee....never saw that coming
What Hasn't Changed
Keeping the "big 3" expenses low
The majority of our investments are still total stock market funds
Experiences are still the priority over material objects
We continue to do this show because of you all.
Every time we hear a story of how we inspired someone or introduced them to a concept that is now helping them live the life they dreamed of, it pushes us to keep going.
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2018 Reflection, 2019 Goals episode
2019 Valentine's Day episode
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Jane Kanizay went from financial freedom to divorce to financial freedom again while achieving amazing physical feats along the way.
Jane is an adventurer, educator, activist, speaker, artist, and mother of four who successfully climbed Mt. Everest with her 19-year-old daughter on May 14th, 2022.
Jane climbs with the message of Teach Us Consent to campaign for holistic consent education in the school curriculum and to advocate for the prevention of violence against women. This mission helps push her to her physical and mental limits.
High-altitude mountaineering is one of the deadliest sports in the world.
It's also very expensive and hard to imagine being possible for most teachers.
That's where Jane's background in real estate shines.
She built a portfolio that is now funding her amazing adventures.
She also gives us an in-depth breakdown of the financial abuse she tries to educate on and advocate against.
Some signs of this abuse from a partner might include:
Controls access to finances, won’t let you access bank accounts or credit cards
Expects you to pay for bills, groceries, and other basic necessities but gives you little or no money to cover those costs
Forbids you from working or deliberately sabotages your ability to get or hold down a job
Refuses to work or contribute to family expenses
Takes out loans or accrues debt in your name
Doesn’t include you in significant investment or banking decisions
Refuses to pay or evades child support
Hides assets
Incurs fines or infringements in your name then expects you to pay them
Jane's story is so inspirational and we hope that she helps you get out of your comfort zone and achieve the seemingly impossible.
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Jane's Instagram
Jane's Website
Teach Us Consent
Caitlin James' Episode
YouTube Interview
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In this episode, Cody and Justin discuss how Justin will travel the world for 6 months at a shockingly low price.
In total, the trip will cover 161 days as currently planned.
The cost is only $46 per day!
That cost includes flights, trains, ferries, accommodation, and activities for one person.
Below you can find the locations Justin will be visiting,
We've also included the packing list since Justin is only taking a small backpack for the entire trip.
Locations include:
Philipines
Manila
Coron
El Nido
Indonesia
Ubud
Gili Islands
Nusa Islands
Vietnam
Hanoi
Ninh Binh
Cat Ba
Thailand
Krabi
Koh Lanta
Chiang Mai
Bangkok
Amsterdam
Chur, Switzerland
Italy
Milan
Rapallo
Monterosso al mare
Florence
Rome
Naples
Ischia
Lipari
Palermo
Sardinia
Barcelona
Packing List:
Backpack
Rainjacket
5 shirts
4 pair of socks
5 pair underwear
Midlayer
Windbreaker w/ kangaroo pouch
Toiletries
Toothbrush
Hat
Portable battery
Phone Charger
Travel adapter
5 pocket pant
Light down jacket
half length Buff
Khaki shorts
Sandles
4 pair of running shorts
eyemask
headphones
microphone
The craziest part? Justin is going to be breaking even from this trip due to the Airbnb income from his primary residence (covered in this geohacking episode).
We hope this inspires you to consider that big trip you thought you couldn't afford.
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One of the questions we get asked most often is for guidance on what someone should and should not spend money on.
The answer is always... it depends.
What's important to me, may not be important to you.
Jen Smith is here to give everyone the framework to make those tough decisions.
This framework is called Value Based spending.
Jen lays it all out in her new book, "Buy What You Love Without Going Broke".
Long-term listeners may remember Jen from episode 58, "Frugality without Deprivation," in 2019.
She's also still rocking things over at the Frugal Friends Podcast.
In today's episode as we discuss the book you'll find answers to the following:
Why is it so hard to stop spending money?
What is values-based spending and how is it different?
What’s the problem with telling someone a budget will solve their spending problem?
What’s the point of learning values-based spending when the bigger issue is that we don’t earn enough money?
And so much more.
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Pre-order the book!
Frugal Friend's Podcast
YouTube Interview
https://youtu.be/dsl4EQekk4M
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You never know how close you are to a great story.
I (Justin) learned that on my recent trip to Africa on my way to hike Mt. Kilimanjaro.
Boarding my flight I met Caitlin James as she was on her way to climb the very same mountain.
The more I heard from her, the more I realized I had come across a truly amazing story.
Caitlin was paralyzed in a boating accident.
Through surgery and rehab, she eventually regained the ability to walk.
Walking was just the start though.
She jokingly said if she could walk again she'd climb a mountain in a banana suit...and that's exactly what she did.
That first mountain hooked her, and she has racked up an insanely impressive list of summits in just a couple of years.
This story may not seem relevant to some for this show, but we thought it made perfect sense.
Many people want to do something adventurous, travel, and spend their days outside instead of behind a computer.
These reasons are what drive them to retire.
But Caitlin isn't waiting for retirement to live out her dreams and pursue her passions.
Instead, she is making her passions her career.
Caitlin reinvented herself and her career. Check out her expeditions over the last couple of years:
NORTH AMERICA
DENALI Alaska 20,310
MT WHITNEY, California 14,505
MT RAINIER, Washington 14,411
MT HELEN, Washington 10,786
SOUTH AMERICA
ACONCAGUA 22,837 (Normal route)
Ojos del Salado 22,615
(Argentinian side)
PERU
Cordillera Blanca Range;
Huascaran 22,205
Chacraraju 20,039
Salkantay 20,574
Ausangate Nevado trek;
Machu Picchu 7,972
Huayna Picchu 8,835
Rainbow Mountain 17,060
Nevado Ausangate 20,945
Nevados Ojos del Salado 22,569
ECUADOR
Chimborazo 20,549
EUROPE
MONT BLANC 15,777
MATTERHORN 14,692
The EIGER 13,642
The ALPHUBEL 13,799
DOLOMITES 10,968
MONTE ROSA 15,203
BRITISH COLUMBIA
MT LOGAN 19,551
MT FAIRWEATHER 15,325
MT ROBSON 9,281 FT
AFRICA
Kilimanjaro, 19,341 (3x in two years)
Umbwe, Marangu, Machame Route
Mt Meru 14,980
Cape Town 3,563
CHILE
Torres Del Paine (Patagonia)
JAPAN
MT Fuji 12,388
MT Tsurugi 9,839
NEPAL
EBC TREK 17,598
LOBUCHE 20,062
ISLAND PEAK 20,252
MANASLU C3 23,622
INDONESIA
SUMATRA 12,484
AUSTRALIA
MT KOSCIUSZKO 7,310
MT TOWNSEND 7,247
GREAT OCEAN WALK 240 Kilo/149miles
We hope this inspires you to consider how you can chase your dreams now and not feel as though your life is chained up until retirement.
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Cody shares his digital product journey on the How to Sell Your Stuff on Etsy podcast with Lizzie Smiley.
He covers topics such as:
How to find profitable products
Keyword research and SEO
Strategies for making more sales
Student success stories
Why Etsy is the best platform for beginners
And all about what's inside his E-Printables course.
Hope this helps someone else start their digital product journey.
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E-Printables Course (with FI Show discount)
How to Sell Your Stuff on Etsy podcast
YouTube Interview
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If you love the personal finance space, chances are you've heard of FinCon.
Today, we bring you Philip Taylor who created and grew FinCon into the massive pillar of the community it is today.
For loooong time listeners, you may remember Cody interviewing PT at FinCon back in 2018.
You'll hear the origins, the heights, the COVID-19 survival, and the future of FinCon in this episode.
PT isn't stopping with one conference and is now running a second called TravelCon in addition to expanding his family's accountant business.
Don't forget to snag your ticket to FinCon while you still can.
This year's event will be in Atlanta, October 23-26.
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FinCon
TravelCon
The Creator CPA
PT Money
YouTube Interview
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Long-time listeners may remember Nick's episode from Episode 56 way back in 2019.
We felt like this classic episode and fundamental topic needed to be brought out of the archives and revisited.
Nick Loper is the side hustle king from Side Hustle Nation.
Nick got an eye-opening opportunity in college and knew he had to be his own boss.
He would eventually work for three years in the corporate world.
During that time he was building his side hustle.
It was quickly covering his expenses and he never looked back.
We really help you focus on how to choose the right side hustle for you.
Nick recommends finding two areas you’re in the top 50% in
Then find a way for those two things to intersect
He also suggests trying out things to experiment
You’ll often find your true golden idea once you get started on a project
If you begin to dread the work, it may be time to stop working on that side hustle
Listen and learn all about side hustles and let us know what you think.
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Side Hustle Nation
List of Side Hustle Ideas
Nick's YouTube Channel
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In this episode, Cody and Justin discuss Justin's recent summit of Kilimanjaro.
You'll learn all the details, pricing, and considerations if you're interested in this major summit, as well as the mental growth and lessons learned from pushing your body to the extreme and living without your normal luxuries.
Some topics include:
What to pack
Cost of the trip
A typical day on the hike
Overcoming mental hurdles
Embracing simplicity
Even though he battled sickness every day of the hike, Justin would highly recommend trying this summit.
And even if you don't, hopefully this episode inspires you to try something that challenges you.
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Company Justin Used for the Kilimanjaro Summit
Recommended rinse-free bathing wipes
YouTube Interview
https://youtu.be/ALrPVFNOUDc
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Cody shares how he's able to earn over $75,000 per month in passive income on the Forget About Money Podcast.
His big four are:
Digital Products
Real Estate
Affiliate Marketing / Sponsorships
Stock market investments (doesn't really count, but we explain)
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What would you be willing to do to hit financial independence early?
Michael Alberse lived differently for 2+ years to save over 90% of his income as a Google employee.
In this episode, we talk about:
Living in a van
Managing finances with a significant other
Landing a 6-figure job (with insane perks)
Starting an agency
Small business investing
Finding your "why"
And so much more.
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In this episode, Cody and Justin discuss one of the most heated investing arguments.
Should you hand-select the "best" companies, or invest in the total stock market?
Some topics include:
Individual stocks are often investors' first exposure to the stock market
The mental drag of stress from volatility
How individual stocks can scratch the itch
Setting non-negotiable limits
More certain path to FI vs the potential for a home run
Bad bets we've made on individual stocks
As part of this discussion, we compared several individual stocks against VTSAX.
VTSAX is an index fund Vanguard offers and tracks the total stock market.
List of stocks including present-day value and annualized return if you invested $1,000 on Aug 9, 2004, and reinvested dividends:
VTSAX
$5,807
9.19% average annual return
Intel
$1,623
2.45% average annual return
7th Market Cap
Abercrombie and Fitch
$4,679
8.02% average annual return
Couple of years after Hollister's launch
Apple
$396,562
34.85% average annual return
Released iPod Mini
If you bought on July 6, 1994 (Forrest Gump release date) -> $1.1M (26%)
Coca Cola
$6,007
9.37% average annual return
Released C2
General Electric
$1,243
1.09% average annual return
5th Market Cap
Wells Fargo
$2,627
4.95%
15th largest market cap
TI
$11,496
12.98% average annual return
Year TI-89 was released
Sony
$2,691
5.07% average annual return
PSP release date
Nokia
$730
-1.56% average annual return
9 phone releases
We cover all of this and more.
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Stoculator
YouTube Interview
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In this episode, Cody and Justin talk about something we thankfully haven't had to deal with for the majority of the last 10 years.
We’re talking Bear Markets and Recessions.
We originally aired this episode back in 2022.
This goes to show that there will always be cycles.
Should your investment strategy change?
Is there anything you can do to lessen the blow?
How do inflation and mortgage rates factor in?
Can you spin a recession into a positive thing for you?
We’re going to cover all this and more.
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Long-time listeners may remember Brooke from her feature in Episode 134 way back in 2021.
Brooke had already begun to build some impressive businesses but was still spending her days as a teacher.
Since then, she's gone all in on her career as a real estate agent.
But Brooke didn't simply become an agent, she quickly rose to the top 1% in MA, CT, and RI.
To put some numbers on that, Brooke has sold over $100M in real estate!
Now she's helping to show other realtors how to copy her success and grow their business.
She's doing that through her book and community, She Closes Deals.
Even if you're not looking to enter the real estate space, Brooke's mindset and general frameworks can help anyone.
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What kind of wild advantages do you need to retire at 33 comfortably?
How extreme must the deprivation be to do this without a miracle?
What if we told you that there's no inheritance needed and you can thrive while on the journey?
Justin shares his full journey (including all of the numbers) and how he retired at age 33 on BiggerPockets Money.
Some topics include:
Low-Income to FI
Searching for Time Freedom
Starting to Invest
Calculating Your FI Number
How Much He Spends
Income and Savings Rates
What He's Investing In
Create Your FIRE Plan!
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Cody & Justin have worked hard on their finances and fitness over the past few years.
Through these pursuits, they've noticed many similarities in the methods it takes to be successful in both.
Some of these areas include:
Compounding
Tracking
Social norms
Mentality
Budgeting
Unfortunately, the fitness and finance worlds have been purposely overcomplicated for financial gain.
We hope we can break through all that noise for you and show you how simple it can be.
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Is it really possible to reach financial freedom in your 20s?
Cody shares his full journey (including all of the numbers) and how he reached financial freedom at 25 on BiggerPockets Money.
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It's been a while since Cody & Justin were able to catch up on life's events, so you'll hear all about it on today's episode.
You'll hear about Cody's latest house flip and Justin's Alaska/Portland/Washington/Puerto Rico/Africa adventures
They'll also take you through some interesting finance articles they read recently including:
A California law that will require high schoolers to learn personal finance before graduation
A new spending rule that helps give your discretionary spending category some direction
Cody and Justin are constantly getting into something new so we hope you enjoy this opportunity to get all caught up with them
Thank you all for listening and may this episode help you on your path to a financially independent future.
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California Financial Literacy Requirement for High School Graduation
The $1 Per Use Rule
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