Episodes
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What does the future hold for DevOps and platform engineering? Patrick Debois, the creator of DevOps Days, shares his thoughts on the evolution of DevOps practices. From the emergence of AI-driven automation to the challenges of building effective internal platforms, this episode covers the key trends and developments shaping the industry. Learn about the skills and strategies that will be crucial for the next generation of professionals.
Patrick Debois is a versatile technologist with a breadth of experience across Dev, Sec, and Ops. Known for his aptitude in harnessing emerging ideas , he skillfully guides teams and advises businesses ranging from startups to enterprises in their journey. Recognized as a trusted ally among dev, sec, ops communities, and beyond, he is currently immersing himself in the world of AI & Machine Learning continuously pushing the boundaries of his technical expertise.
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Join Mitchell Hashimoto, the visionary behind Terraform and co-founder of HashiCorp, on an engaging journey from his college years to his groundbreaking impact on cloud resource management.
Explore the pivotal moments that led to Terraform's inception, the challenges of fostering an open-source community, and how HashiCorp evolved from a passion project into an industry powerhouse.
Don’t miss this captivating conversation that delves into the story behind one of the most influential software tools, offering a rare insight into the mind of a true innovator.
Mitchell is a developer living in Los Angeles, CA. He co-founded HashiCorp, and was part of the initial engineering team behind most of HashiCorp's products, such as Vagrant, Packer, Consul, Terraform, Vault, Nomad, Waypoint, and more. Mitchell was CEO for 4 years, CTO for 5 years, an individual contributor for 2 years. He is passionate about flying airplanes - he's an FAA-licensed pilot and currently flies a Cirrus SF50 Vision Jet.
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How does Crossplane simplify multicloud infrastructure management? Join us as Jared Watts, co-creator of Crossplane, walks us through the project's evolution from its inception to its current capabilities. What advantages does Crossplane’s approach offer over other IaC tools? How does it handle drift detection and reconciliation? And what exciting new features are on the horizon, like operational functions for day-2 tasks? Jared offers insights into Crossplane's architecture, community development, and vision for the future of cloud resource management. Whether you're wrestling with multicloud complexity or seeking more programmatic control over your infrastructure, this episode is a must-listen deep dive into the world of Crossplane.
Jared Watts is a Founding Engineer at Upbound, where he is working on advancing cloud-native computing by enabling anyone to build their own cloud native control plane. He is also a co-creator for the open source Crossplane and Rook projects. Prior to Upbound, Jared worked on P2P storage distributed across the public internet at Symform, a startup later acquired by Quantum. Jared began his career at Microsoft working on applications for Windows Server setup and management.
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Docker or Kubernetes? And why are some clouds trickier for container deployment? Join us as Jérôme Petazzoni, an early Docker advocate, all about containers. We'll explore provisioning Kubernetes across 12 different cloud providers, uncover surprises in Infrastructure-as-Code for container orchestration, and discuss making multi-cloud Kubernetes manageable. Let's see what containerization has become and some of the challenges it still faces.
Jérôme was part of the team that built and launched Docker. He worked there for 7 years. These days he teaches Kubernetes at Enix, a French Cloud Native shop. When he's not busy with computers, he collects musical instruments. He can arguably play the theme of Zelda on a dozen of them.
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Infrastructure as Code is evolving rapidly, and open-source collaborations are playing a big part in shaping where it's headed. In this episode, Zach Goldberg, CTO of Gruntwork, shares his insights on tackling enterprise IaC complexity with open source tools. We dive into the origins of Terragrunt and its roadmap, why organizations are rapidly adopting OpenTofu, and explore the innovative ways these tools are being used in the community. How are these developments transforming IaC practices? What challenges and opportunities lie ahead? Tune in to find out!
Zach Goldberg is an executive coach, the author of 10k+ GitHub star book, “The Startup CTO’s Handbook” and is the CTO of Gruntwork. Zach Goldberg graduated from the University of Pennsylvania Magna Cum Laude with a degree in Computer Science and Engineering. He’s been the CTO of seven startups including WiFast, Sticks and Brains, AutoLotto, Trellis Technologies, GrowFlow (acq. Dama Financial 2022), Towards Equilibrium Inc. and most recently Gruntwork as well as an Entrepreneur in Residence at Tencent and an Associate Product Manager at Google.
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How are modern cloud-native environments changing the way we handle security? Liz Rice, Chief Open Source Officer at Isovalent, explains why traditional IP-based network policies are becoming outdated and how game-changers like Cilium and eBPF, which leverage Kubernetes identities, offer more effective and readable policies. We also discuss the role of community-driven projects under the CNCF, and she shares tips for creating strong, future-proof solutions. What challenges should we expect next? Tune in to find out!
Liz Rice is Chief Open Source Officer with eBPF specialists Isovalent, creators of the Cilium cloud native networking, security and observability project. She is the author of Container Security, and Learning eBPF, both published by O'Reilly, and she sits on the CNCF Governing Board, and on the Board of OpenUK. She was Chair of the CNCF's Technical Oversight Committee in 2019-2022, and Co-Chair of KubeCon + CloudNativeCon in 2018.
She has a wealth of software development, team, and product management experience from working on network protocols and distributed systems, and in digital technology sectors such as VOD, music, and VoIP. When not writing code, or talking about it, Liz loves riding bikes in places with better weather than her native London, competing in virtual races on Zwift, and making music under the pseudonym Insider Nine.
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Tools, workflows and the Terraform ecosystem - Masterpoint's Matt Gowie dives deep into the IaC tooling landscape, covering tools like Terragrunt and Atmos, linting with TFLint, security scanning, CI/CD workflows and more. From Terraform 0.11 to OpenTofu, static code analysis to encryption, gain an inside look at pragmatic IaC practices.
Matt Gowie is a seasoned entrepreneur, cloud architect, and platform engineer based in Boulder, Colorado. As CEO and CTO of Masterpoint, he leads a team dedicated to developing top-tier infrastructure-as-code solutions for a diverse clientele. With over twelve years of experience in software development, tech startups, and cloud infrastructure, Matt has a deep passion for Terraform and OpenTofu. He actively contributes to the community as a core maintainer of one of the largest open-source Terraform Module libraries and an AWS Community Builder. Outside of work, you can find him rock climbing across the American West, training for an ultramarathon, or exploring remote corners of the globe.
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How have DevOps movements broken down the longstanding cultural barriers between developers and operations teams? What role have container technologies like Docker played in shaping today's IT landscape? John Willis, with over 35 years in IT management, dives into these questions, sharing his insights on simplifying complex systems and fostering integration between development and operations.
Tune in to this must-listen episode as we explore the evolution and future of DevOps with a pioneer in the field.
John Willis has worked in the IT management industry for more than 35 years and is a prolific author, including "Deming's Journey to Profound Knowledge" and "The DevOps Handbook." He is researching DevOps, DevSecOps, IT risk, modern governance, and audit compliance. Previously he was an Evangelist at Docker Inc., VP of Solutions for Socketplane (sold to Docker) and Enstratius (sold to Dell), and VP of Training & Services at Opscode where he formalized the training, evangelism, and professional services functions at the firm. Willis also founded Gulf Breeze Software, an award winning IBM business partner, which specializes in deploying Tivoli technology for the enterprise. Willis has authored six IBM Redbooks for IBM on enterprise systems management and was the founder and chief architect at Chain Bridge Systems.
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How could read access to an S3 bucket escalate to a full AWS environment compromise? Daniel Grzelak walks us through a real red team engagement that sparked his research into Terraform state file vulnerabilities. Hear about the evolution of these vulnerabilities into significant security concerns and how OpenTofu 1.7's state encryption feature is set to change the game.
Listen now and explore Daniel's detailed insights on 'Hacking Terraform State for Privilege Escalation' here.
Daniel Grzelak is a 20-year cybersecurity industry veteran, investor, advisor, and speaker. He is no longer the CISO at Linktree nor the Head of Security at Atlassian, but he tries to stay relevant by hacking AWS and Cloud in general.
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Go behind the scenes with The IaC Podcast's special KubeCon episode. Host Roni Frantchi gives you an insider's look, capturing the conference experience, much-anticipated talks, insider takes on the OpenTofu fork, and AI's potential impacts on ops and workflows, among more!
You can watch full recordings of the talks mentioned on the CNCF YouTube page.
Thank you to our amazing guests for this KubeCon edition:
Abdel Sghiouar - Senior Cloud Developer Advocate, Google
Joep Piscaer - DevRel Leader, TLA Tech
Melissa McKay - Developer Advocate, JFrog
Joel Studler - DevOps Engineer, Swisscom
Ashan Senevirathne - Product Owner, Swisscom
Daniel "phrawzty" Maher - Head of Developer Relations, Scaleway
Barun Acharya - Software Engineer, Accuknox + CNCF Ambassador
Saloni Narang - DevRel Freelancer
Saiyam Pathak - Field CTO, Civo
Stuart Miniman - Senior Director of Market Insights, Hybrid Platforms, Red Hat
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How widespread is Infrastructure-as-Code adoption? What tools are dominating the IaC space? Could AI play a disruptive role? Join us as we dig into Firefly's comprehensive State of IaC Report and explore the latest trends with co-founder Eran Bibi.
Tune in for a must-listen episode on where organizations currently stand in codifying cloud resources, and key insights into the future of managing Infrastructure-as-Code.
Download The State of IaC Report
Eran Bibi is Co-Founder & Chief Product Officer at Firefly. With years of experience in anything DevOps/SRE and security, he has earned a reputation as a CI/CD and SRE expert and an avid admin of Cloud Platforms and containerized environments.
Prior to Firefly, Eran was Head of DevOps & Cloud Platform at Aqua Security and DevOps Group Lead at Finastra. Eran is a frequent speaker at Cloud Native meetups, AWS community meetups, and other cloud workshops and conferences.
Sponsored by: https://www.env0.com/
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How can you gain deeper insights into your complex systems beyond just monitoring infrastructure health metrics? Join us as Charity Majors, CTO and Co-Founder of Honeycomb, challenges traditional approaches to observability. With experience from the infrastructure trenches of fast-growing startups, Charity pushes us to rethink our methods.
Can high-cardinality data exploration reveal the "unknown unknowns" hiding in your telemetry? Is prioritizing user experiences over infrastructure stats the key to untangling your "hairball" systems? And what role should observability play across the full software development lifecycle? Charity offers a forward-looking perspective on evolving observability practices to match increasing complexity. Observe the future of observability - Tune in to our latest episode now!
Charity Majors is a Co-Founder and Engineer at Honeycomb.io, a startup that blends the speed of time series with the raw power of rich events to give you interactive, iterative debugging of complex systems. She has worked at companies like Facebook, Parse, and Linden Lab, as a systems engineer and engineering manager, but always seems to end up responsible for the databases too. She loves free speech, free software and a nice peaty single malt.
Sponsored by: https://www.env0.com/
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In this episode, open source guru Kris Buytaert discusses open source ecosystems, the benefits of collaboration, and the shifts towards proprietary models in certain tools.
We explore OpenTofu as a reaction to Terraform, ponder whether an “Ansible of IaC” will emerge, and delve into the deeper meaning of licenses, ecosystems, and governance models—emphasizing that “one open source is not equal to another.”
Join us in the exploration of the hallmarks of healthy open source and what lies beyond licenses as we assess community integrity.
Kris Buytaert is a long time Linux and Open Source Consultant. He's one of instigators of the devops movement, currently working for o11y.eu / @inuits.
He is frequently speaking at, or organizing different international conferences and has written about the same subjects in different Books, Papers and Articles.
He spends most of his time working on bridging the gap between developers and operations with a strong focus on High Availability, Scalability, Virtualization, and Large Infrastructure Management projects. Hence, he is trying to build infrastructures that can survive the 10th-floor test—better known today as the cloud—while actively promoting the DevOps idea.
Sponsored by: https://www.env0.com/
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A special community event with a panel of industry experts to discuss the GA release of OpenTofu. On the panel were env0's CEO and host of The IaC Podcast Ohad Maislish, Dotan Horovitz from Logz.io, Andrew Martin from ControlPlane, and Anders Eknert from Styra.
The ensuing discussion unfolded as an interesting and engaging exchange, with topics spanning from evaluating open-source tools to considerations for licensing in engineering activities, and the potential macro implications of Terrafrom’s licensing shift.
It was a great listen! In case you missed it, check out the recording.
PS, The Q&A session was particularly interesting. If you only have a moment, jump straight to [55:50] and enjoy!
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In this episode, we chat with Mandi Walls, DevOps Advocate at PagerDuty, about the evolution of infrastructure management and operations over her career. We discuss the rise of configuration management tools like Chef and Puppet, and how Infrastructure-as-Code solutions like Terraform are now better suited for cloud-native environments.
Mandi shares insights on key shifts like increased automation to reduce incidents, centralizing infrastructure code management, and using Terraform providers to configure SaaS products. Tune in for a thoughtful perspective on how infrastructure teams have matured their processes and adapted tools to the modern stack!
Mandi Walls is a DevOps Advocate at PagerDuty. For PagerDuty, she helps organizations along their IT Modernization journey. Prior to PagerDuty, she worked at Chef Software and AOL. She is an international speaker on DevOps topics and the author of the whitepaper “Building A DevOps Culture”, published by O’Reilly.
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In this episode, we are thrilled to welcome infrastructure industry veteran Robert Hafner. With over 15 years of hands-on experience under his belt, Robert has witnessed infrastructure practices evolve firsthand - from patched together bash scripts to modern declarative approaches.
Today, he joins us to offer pragmatic perspectives on infrastructure as code maturity, drawn from his own journey towards increased confidence and reliability over time. Tune in as we plumb the depths of real-world IaC adoption, exploring everything from infrastructure testing practices to state management considerations at scale. This is an episode you won't want to miss!
Robert Hafner is a Senior Principal Architect and author of Terraform in Depth. He has been working at the intersection of software and infrastructure since starting his first company in 2005. During that time he witnessed first hand the industry evolution from individual bash scripts to configuration management up to infrastructure as code. He's spent his career working with startups such as Malwarebytes and Rad AI on projects ranging from high availability sites, large data analytics (with 30+ million daily clients), to large scale GPU clustering and machine learning model hosting.
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In this episode with Adam Jacob, we discuss Adam’s role in the history of the DevOps movement, from creating Chef to becoming CEO of Systems Initiative. You’ll learn about configuration management frameworks vs infrastructure as code, how DevOps workflows have evolved over time, and what’s next for the industry. Tune-in today!
Adam Jacob is an engineering and product innovator, with decades of experience designing, building, and managing large production systems. Adam is the Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder of System Initiative.
Adam previously co-founded Chef Software, was the original author of Chef, served as CTO, and on the board of directors. Chef grew out of HJK Solutions, an automated infrastructure consultancy responsible for helping build some of the earliest large-scale production cloud infrastructures. A systems administrator at heart, Adam has also been responsible for internal corporate automation, Sarbanes-Oxley compliance efforts, and a whole lot of systems automation.
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In our tenth episode with Derek Morgan, DevOps Course Creator and founder of morethancertified.com, we discuss how IaC management has shifted over the years, which technologies and tools are the best for different use cases, and the current state of IaC solutions and providers. Listen now!
After working for years in traditional infrastructure management, consulting, and Devrel, Derek Morgan is now the founder and lead instructor for morethancertified.com, creating training courses that cover topics from containers to the cloud. If he's not creating training, you can find him training for a marathon, riding a bike, or on a climbing wall.
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In our ninth episode, we chat with Anton Babenko, AWS Community Hero and Terraform Influencer, to take a deep dive into AWS, modules, and contributing to the open-source community. Tune-in now!Anton is an AWS Community Hero and helps companies around the globe build solutions using AWS and specializes in infrastructure-as-code, DevOps, and reusable infrastructure components. He spends much of his time as an open-source contributor on various Terraform & AWS projects. Such as Terraform AWS modules (downloaded more than 200 million times), Terraform best practices ebook (www.terraform-best-practices.com), doing serverless with Terraform (serverless.tf), Terraform Weekly (weekly.tf), Your Weekly Dose of Terraform (http://bit.ly/terraform-youtube).Anton co-founded and co-organizes AWS, DevOps, and HashiCorp User Groups in Norway and often speaks at technical meetups and conferences.
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In our eighth episode, we sit down with by Ilia Lazebnik, Infra Architect at Placer.ai, to discuss his extensive open source contributions including over 2600 commits to the Terraform AWS Provider over the past four years. We'll also talk about providers in general, how Ilia collaborates with other open source communities, and much more. Tune-in today!
Ilia is a Lead Engineer with more than 10 years of experience and with a passion for Open source software. He is experienced in leading projects to achieve concrete goals on a strict deadline. He has extensive knowledge in AWS, GCP, Kubernetes, Containers and DevOps practices. He is also an active contributor to open source projects including being a Hashicorp core contributor to the Terraform AWS provider and terraform VPC modules.
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