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  • In this episode, Richard Rohlin and I continue our discussion of The Voyage of St. Brendan, focusing on some of the stranger episodes in the story. We look at encounters with sea creatures, a sea giantess, and the figure of a Hermit in paradise. Along the way, we reflect on what these images might reveal about death, resurrection, the role of the saints, and how the spiritual world connects to our own. It's a conversation that opens up layers of meaning in a text that’s easy to overlook.
    Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/2vxMu-NU6Rw
    Part 1, The Voyage of St. Brendan: https://youtu.be/nlzEUV5sV2o?si=lsPwB1EmXLBIfs0w

    SYMBOLISM MASTERCLASS
    Join me this April for the Symbolism Masterclass, a 6-week deep dive into the essentials of symbolic thinking. Over 18 immersive hours, I'll guide you through the framework behind everything I've explored in 500+ videos—from heaven and earth to dragons, fairies, kings, conspiracies, Darwin, the Bible, and beyond.
    Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/symbolism-masterclass
    🗓 Dates: Live classes every Wednesday at 1-4 PM Central / 2-5 PM Eastern time: 4/23, 4/30, 5/7, 5/14, 5/21, 5/28
    ⏰ Class Length: 3 hours each session
    💰 Cost: $175 (Patrons at the Involved tier or higher qualify for 10% off)

    While Richard's course on Tolkien and Universal History is over, you can still buy the course and get access to all the lecture recordings and resources here: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/tolkien-and-universal-history

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    01:06 - Intro music
    01:37 - Introduction
    03:41 - Pascha on the back of a monster
    06:29 - A whale
    14:06 - The giant mermaid
    22:10 - The sequence of events
    26:48 - Until the Last Judgement
    33:00 - Don't worry about it
    40:49 - Baptism
    43:42 - Garments of skin
    51:34 - Confronting demonic forces
    58:08 - Brendan in paradise
    01:09:00 - Brendan comes to Britain
    01:26:49 - The death of St Brendan

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  • A few weeks ago, a study came out criticizing the use of the phrase "Christ is King"—and it stirred up a lot of strong reactions, including my own. In this video, I take you through the symbolism, history, and deeper meaning behind this expression, and I share why I believe its resurgence today is both important and complicated. I’ll also reflect on how identity naturally includes and excludes—and why that's not something we should fear.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/_9_PWSOgK5w

    The study in question: https://networkcontagion.us/reports/3-13-25-thy-name-in-vain-how-online-extremists-hijacked-christ-is-king/

    SYMBOLISM MASTERCLASS
    Join me this April for the Symbolism Masterclass, a 6-week deep dive into the essentials of symbolic thinking. Over 18 immersive hours, I'll guide you through the framework behind everything I've explored in 500+ videos—from heaven and earth to dragons, fairies, kings, conspiracies, Darwin, the Bible, and beyond.
    Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/symbolism-masterclass
    🗓 Dates: Live classes every Wednesday at 1-4 PM Central / 2-5 PM Eastern time: 4/23, 4/30, 5/7, 5/14, 5/21, 5/28
    ⏰ Class Length: 3 hours each session
    💰 Cost: $175 (Patrons at the Involved tier or higher qualify for 10% off)

    Join us for the ORTHODOX ARTS FESTIVAL, learn more here: https://www.orthodoxartsfestivaldfw.com/

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  • This is a talk I did a few years ago for the Jung Society of Montreal. In it I explore the creation story in Genesis not just as myth, but as a fractal map of how identity, being, and purpose function. In breaking down the symbolism I also make a case for why intelligence isn’t an accident, why rituals matter, and why participation of intelligent beings is foundational to reality. In the Q&A section we touch on group identity, exclusion, dreams, and the meaning of the Last Judgment among other topics. I hope this lecture gives you a sense of the tone and depth of our upcoming Symbolism Masterclass. If you want to learn more, register today.
    https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/symbolism-masterclass

    SYMBOLISM MASTERCLASS
    Join me this April for the Symbolism Masterclass, a 6-week deep dive into the essentials of symbolic thinking. Over 18 immersive hours, I'll guide you through the framework behind everything I've explored in 500+ videos—from heaven and earth to dragons, fairies, kings, conspiracies, Darwin, the Bible, and beyond.
    🗓 Dates: Live classes every Wednesday at 1-4 PM Central / 2-5 PM Eastern time: 4/23, 4/30, 5/7, 5/14, 5/21, 5/28
    ⏰ Class Length: 3 hours each session
    💰 Cost: $175 (Patrons at the Involved tier or higher qualify for 10% off)

    Join us for the ORTHODOX ARTS FESTIVAL, learn more here: https://www.orthodoxartsfestivaldfw.com/

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/YArpxigY5xY?si=QrMqUuJixHQ3DnXy
    Original video published by Jordan Peterson: https://youtu.be/ZQ43i5nKuZk?si=XB-bgj9VMc0NxBdT

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Introduction
    02:01 - Intro music
    02:26 - Observing the observer
    08:06 - Ritual and a return to ancient thinking
    13:58 - Ritual in groups
    21:34 - The argument
    27:49 - The start of Genesis
    36:39 - And God said
    42:06 - Vegetation
    44:30 - The sun, moon, and stars
    45:49 - Creatures of the sea
    49:32 - Animals
    51:57 - The creation of man
    56:28 - Genesis 2
    59:43 - The center of the world
    06:42 - Iconographic examples
    12:39 - Questions from JBP
    18:22 - Q: Elaborate on what you mean with "above" and "below"
    20:15 - Q: Are people who try to tame wild animals violating the pattern you pointed out?
    21:51 - Q: How sure are you of the heaven and earth distinction?
    25:36 - Q: What's the meaning of when God says man is very good and everything else good?
    30:03 - Comment about Jung
    31:24 - Q: How did Darwin bring Plato back?
    37:03 - Q: How would you work with exclusion / inclusion patterns in these times?
    48:51 - Q: What's the intelligence of dreams?
    51:45 - Q: If the teleological patterns of being constitute heaven, what is the abode of the human soul?

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  • In this conversation, I sit down with Joe Allen to dig into the strange and unsettling territory where transhumanism and politics collide. We explore how politics is shaping the trajectory of technological development—and how, in turn, emerging tech like AI begins to shape us.
    We talk about the deeper philosophical and spiritual undercurrents of transhumanism: the ego behind the machines, the myth of the disembodied mind, and the subtle seductions that come with promises of power and control. From AI warfare to Elon Musk, from Project Stargate to the eerie direction our culture is headed, we raise some uncomfortable but necessary questions. What happens when our tools stop serving us and begin to define us?

    Get Joe Allen's book: Dark Aeon: Transhumanism and the War Against Humanity: https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Aeon-Transhumanism-Against-Humanity-ebook/dp/B0C9FJQD4V

    SYMBOLISM MASTERCLASS
    Join me this April for the Symbolism Masterclass, a 6-week deep dive into the essentials of symbolic thinking. Over 18 immersive hours, I'll guide you through the framework behind everything I've explored in 500+ videos—from heaven and earth to dragons, fairies, kings, conspiracies, Darwin, the Bible, and beyond.
    🗓 Dates: Live classes every Wednesday at 1-4 PM Central / 2-5 PM Eastern time: 4/23, 4/30, 5/7, 5/14, 5/21, 5/28
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    ORTHODOX ARTS FESTIVAL - Learn more here: https://www.orthodoxartsfestivaldfw.com/

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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    00:44 - Intro music
    02:03 - The conservative transhumanist
    09:11 - Why more than human?
    14:49 - Bringing myths alive
    18:41 - Revolution and an image of sin
    25:47 - International competition
    34:07 - As soon as a power exists
    44:39 - Project StarGate
    50:29 - The power of AI
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  • In this conversation with Mary Harrington, we explore how identity has evolved from the ancient idea of the soul to the concept of self and today how we talk and think about identity. We dive into how technology and AI shape this shift and why bringing back the soul might help us tackle modern challenges. We argue that purpose and hierarchy clarify identity in today’s mess of competing selves. We explore how swapping deep reading for digital scrolling shifts consciousness, how memes steer thought, and the nature of AI and its affects on culture.

    Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/TJnGDEAka7I

    Our conversation at ARC that prompted this: A philosophy of human identity in a digital age | Jordan Peterson, Jonathan Pageau, Mary Harrington: https://youtu.be/oa-MK6l_hgE?si=86TQRbbDCrQdqb60

    SYMBOLISM MASTERCLASS
    Join me this April for the Symbolism Masterclass, a 6-week deep dive into the essentials of symbolic thinking. Over 18 immersive hours, I'll guide you through the framework behind everything I've explored in 500+ videos—from heaven and earth to dragons, fairies, kings, conspiracies, Darwin, the Bible, and beyond.

    🗓 Dates: Live classes every Wednesday at 1-4 PM Central / 2-5 PM Eastern time: 4/23, 4/30, 5/7, 5/14, 5/21, 5/28
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  • In this episode I break down the meaning and symbolism in the 2022 show Severance starring Adam Scott. Let me know in the comments on YouTube if you want more content like this.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/4RgQ0Q4pgHA

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    SYMBOLISM MASTERCLASS
    Join me this April for the Symbolism Masterclass, a 6-week deep dive into the essentials of symbolic thinking. Over 18 immersive hours, I'll guide you through the framework behind everything I've explored in 500+ videos—from heaven and earth to dragons, fairies, kings, conspiracies, Darwin, the Bible, and beyond.
    🗓 Dates: Live classes every Wednesday at 1-4 PM Central / 2-5 PM EST: 4/23, 4/30, 5/7, 5/14, 5/21, 5/28
    ⏰ Class Length: 3 hours each session
    💰 Cost: $175
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  • This is my review of Disney's recent Snow White live-action remake.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/gk2koS8Eomg

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    With all this attention on Snow White right now, we want to make sure that we're mostly celebrating this powerful story in our culture. So to do so, we're offering for the very last time a limited edition box set of our own Snow White story, Snow White and the Widow Queen. It's a leather bound book signed by me, in a beautifully designed and bejeweled box with a free sticker and bookmark included. This is the last time you will ever see this product, it's very special, so don't miss out while stocks last.

    We're also offering 10% off on select Snow White products if you use SNOW25 at checkout. Just go to https://store.thesymbolicworld.com/?utm_source=Youtube&utm_medium=text+link&utm_campaign=SNOW25

    As a classic fairy tale and timeless piece of our inheritance it's important to remember Snow White and keep celebrating it - that wonder and beauty and strangeness we find in those original tales that have been passed down to us, are exactly what our books at Symbolic World Press hope to reawaken - with of course some symbolism bread crumbs dropped in for those who want to discover the deeper meaning. So, don't miss out.

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  • In this conversation I interview Peter Leithart, an American author, minister, and theologian, who serves as president of Theopolis Institute for Biblical, Liturgical, & Cultural Studies in Birmingham, Alabama. We discuss the origins, mission, and theological insights of Theopolis Institute and the influence of James B. Jordan, who wrote the influential book titled “Through New Eyes”. We further discuss the significance of biblical typology, and the transformative power of liturgy and sacraments in understanding scripture and shaping Christian life. We explore the interconnectedness of biblical narratives, the cultural shifts towards a deeper understanding of scripture, and the importance of sacramental life in recognizing Christ.

    YouTuber version: https://youtu.be/Ug_ZGvfBcuE
    Follow Peter Leithart: https://x.com/PLeithart

    -Through New Eyes: Developing a Biblical View of the World, by James B. Jordan: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Through-New-Eyes-Developing-Biblical/dp/157910259X
    -The End of Protestantism: Pursuing Unity in a Fragmented Church, by Peter J. Leithart: https://www.amazon.com/End-Protestantism-Pursuing-Fragmented-Church/dp/158743377X
    -Revelation Explained: An Interpretation by James B. Jordan: Volume One: Dragon, by James B. Jordan (Author), Dean W. Arnold (Editor): https://www.amazon.com/Revelation-Explained-Interpretation-Jordan-Dragon/dp/1733335633

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    00:50 - Intro music
    01:15 - Introduction
    02:19 - Theopolis Institute
    05:28 - Initial influences
    07:23 - Themes in Scripture
    17:47 - Reality/history rhymes
    20:33 - The Bible as a way of seeing
    23:36 - Sacraments
    31:53 - Creation
    34:23 - How is this being received?
    37:35 - Critical Biblical scholarship and references
    46:15 - Fundamentalism
    49:39 - Typology is the key
    51:53 - Bringing it to experience
    54:20 - The Fathers
    01:00:56 - Hopes for the future

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  • I recently had the privilege to visit Ralston College where I had a wonderful discussion with Gregg Hurwitz about meaning, art, and the future of culture. We also gave advice to the young students at Ralston College about navigating the life of an artist.

    RALSTON COLLEGE: A revival and reinvention of the traditional university. A fellowship for anyone, anywhere who seeks the truth with courage.
    While the review of applications for the 2025-26 year of their fully-funded Master's in the Humanities program has already begun, a small number of spaces remain for extraordinary candidates. Apply now: https://www.ralston.ac/humanities-ma

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/5Zyv3z4VT_Y

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    NEW COURSE: The Symbolic World Goes to Middle-Earth
    Join us for an in-depth study of J.R.R. Tolkien’s Legendarium, where we'll explore his masterful use of medieval literary genres, Christian storytelling traditions, and hidden philology. This course, presented by Richard Rohlin, will guide you through Tolkien's vision for a "Mythology for England," examining his work as a complex tapestry of Universal History. Through this journey, we’ll also examine Tolkien’s use of epic poems, chronicles, and literary devices to craft a truly legendary vision of the past, present, and future. Thereafter, we'll look at how his work has inspired later authors of fantasy, shaped the genre more generally, and continues to aid our recovery of deeper, cosmological storytelling.
    - Dates: Live classes are on Mondays at 1 PM Central starting March 3, 2025
    - Course length: 5 weeks, 10 hours of lectures
    - Cost: $150
    - 10% Discount for all patrons at the Involved tier or higher, apply your discount code at checkout
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    - You’ll also have the opportunity to apply these ideas to contemporary authors and your own mythopoeic writing!
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    Register today: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/tolkien-and-universal-history
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    00:41 - Intro music
    01:06 - Introduction
    06:40 - What they like about each other
    13:03 - Dramatizing Genesis
    17:01 - On writing and being an artist
    22:41 - Ralston College students
    25:37 - Advice to artists
    28:09 - Why are you compelled to tell stories?
    33:09 - Form and function
    42:32 - Looking back on your 20s, what did you do well, and what did you learn from?
    49:19 - What's been your experience being public figures?
    59:03 - Do you ever wish you hadn't entered the public eye?
    01:04:39 - How to keep the fire going without desperation?
    01:09:30 - How to navigate the political?
    01:19:22 - How to choose your priorities and commitments?
    01:23:11 - How to go from an idea to a larger project?
    01:26:36 - Should an artist cater to an audience?
    01:34:43 - What does Ralston mean to you?

  • In this conversation with John Vervaeke and Christopher Mastropietro we discuss their collaborative work on the 'Awakening from the Meaning Crisis' project, exploring the dynamics of their partnership, the impact of their ideas on contemporary discourse, and the challenges of making complex concepts accessible. They delve into the importance of narrative in understanding philosophical ideas, the role of dialogical reasoning in writing, and the surprising effects of their video series on academic engagement.

    Buy their book: Awakening From the Meaning Crisis: Part One: Origins: https://www.amazon.co.za/Awakening-Meaning-Crisis-Part-Origins/dp/1645011003

    John Vervaeke's course on The Symbolic World: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/the-cognitive-science-of-ritual

    Daily Wire Plus: The Gospels seminar: https://www.dailywire.com/show/the-gospels

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    NEW COURSE: The Symbolic World Goes to Middle-Earth
    Join us for an in-depth study of J.R.R. Tolkien’s Legendarium, where we'll explore his masterful use of medieval literary genres, Christian storytelling traditions, and hidden philology. This course, presented by Richard Rohlin, will guide you through Tolkien's vision for a "Mythology for England," examining his work as a complex tapestry of Universal History. Through this journey, we’ll also examine Tolkien’s use of epic poems, chronicles, and literary devices to craft a truly legendary vision of the past, present, and future. Thereafter, we'll look at how his work has inspired later authors of fantasy, shaped the genre more generally, and continues to aid our recovery of deeper, cosmological storytelling.
    - Dates: Live classes are on Mondays at 1 PM Central starting March 3, 2025
    - Course length: 5 weeks, 10 hours of lectures
    - Cost: $150
    - 10% Discount for all patrons at the Involved tier or higher, apply your discount code at checkout
    - Participants will be given access to lesson recordings with downloadable audio
    - You’ll also have the opportunity to apply these ideas to contemporary authors and your own mythopoeic writing!
    - The course is hosted on the Symbolic World Circle Community platform. Sign up as a free member at https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/join-community before making your purchase.
    Register today: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/tolkien-and-universal-history

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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    00:39 - Intro music
    01:03 - Introduction
    01:42 - Working together
    06:23 - Coming to terms with John's vocabulary
    11:26 - Getting feedback
    14:27 - Telling a story
    18:36 - A dialogical process
    22:25 - Change in academia
    26:48 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Peterson at UofT
    29:21 - Cross-disciplinary
    36:01 - Cognitive science
    40:14 - Making woo acceptable
    45:06 - John and John teaching
    52:33 - What was the Gospels seminar like for Jonathan
    00:15 - John's experience
    03:23 - The strangeness of Christianity
    08:19 - Hope for the book's reception

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  • The world is changing rapidly, and the transformation we’re witnessing—especially within the Church—has been astonishing. Across America, Orthodox churches are growing at an unprecedented rate, and cultural shifts that once seemed impossible are now unfolding before our eyes.
    For this week's video, we revisit my very first public event with Jordan Peterson, at The Resurrection of Logos event, which took place at the University of Toronto in March 2017. At the time, many of the ideas we now take for granted were just beginning to emerge. It was a moment when culture seemed to be collapsing under the weight of ideology, yet seeds of renewal were being planted.
    Looking back, we can see both the opportunities and the dangers that have since taken shape. On one hand, faith is more openly discussed, and the roots of Christian civilization are being rediscovered. On the other, we face the risk of faith becoming overly weaponized. The balance between these forces is more crucial than ever.
    This talk, which didn’t gain much attention at the time, now serves as a fascinating snapshot of what was happening in that critical moment. Watch it with fresh eyes and see how far we’ve come.

    Youtube version: https://youtu.be/hWVsvSatJsk

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    NEW COURSE: The Symbolic World Goes to Middle-Earth
    Join us for an in-depth study of J.R.R. Tolkien’s Legendarium, where we'll explore his masterful use of medieval literary genres, Christian storytelling traditions, and hidden philology. This course, presented by Richard Rohlin, will guide you through Tolkien's vision for a "Mythology for England," examining his work as a complex tapestry of Universal History. Through this journey, we’ll also examine Tolkien’s use of epic poems, chronicles, and literary devices to craft a truly legendary vision of the past, present, and future. Thereafter, we'll look at how his work has inspired later authors of fantasy, shaped the genre more generally, and continues to aid our recovery of deeper, cosmological storytelling.
    - Dates: Live classes are on Mondays at 1 PM Central starting March 3, 2025
    - Course length: 5 weeks, 10 hours of lectures
    - Cost: $150
    - 10% Discount for all patrons at the Involved tier or higher, apply your discount code at checkout
    - Participants will be given access to lesson recordings with downloadable audio
    - You’ll also have the opportunity to apply these ideas to contemporary authors and your own mythopoeic writing!
    - The course is hosted on the Symbolic World Circle Community platform. Sign up as a free member at https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/join-community before making your purchase.
    Register today: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/tolkien-and-universal-history
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  • I had a wonderful discussion with James Orr. Dr Orr is Associate Professor of Philosophy of Religion at the Faculty of Divinity at the University of Cambridge. He was also one of the panel members for the Daily Wire Plus Exodus and Gospels seminars, which we discuss in this video. We also talk about our difference approaches and perspectives on Scripture, the current cultural shift and Christianity becoming more mainstream, the risk of instrumentalizing Christianity, Paul Kingsnorth's talk "Against Christian Civilization", and more.

    Watch the Gospel Seminar on Daily Wire Plus: https://www.dailywire.com/show/the-gospels

    My discussion with Paul Kingsnorth, Western Civilization Is Already Dead: https://youtu.be/FrjdaVol2TA?si=D6A3mm3WXj5f2i4W

    Paul Kingsnorth’s First Things talk: "Against Christian Civilization" | 2024 Erasmus Lecture: https://www.youtube.com/live/Y3hMSZqatHI

    James Orr links:
    - https://www.divinity.cam.ac.uk/directory/dr-james-orr
    - https://x.com/jtworr

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    NEW COURSE: The Symbolic World Goes to Middle-Earth
    Join us for an in-depth study of J.R.R. Tolkien’s Legendarium, where we'll explore his masterful use of medieval literary genres, Christian storytelling traditions, and hidden philology. This course, presented by Richard Rohlin, will guide you through Tolkien's vision for a "Mythology for England," examining his work as a complex tapestry of Universal History. Through this journey, we’ll also examine Tolkien’s use of epic poems, chronicles, and literary devices to craft a truly legendary vision of the past, present, and future. Thereafter, we'll look at how his work has inspired later authors of fantasy, shaped the genre more generally, and continues to aid our recovery of deeper, cosmological storytelling. - Dates: Live classes are on Mondays at 1 PM Central starting March 3, 2025 - Course length: 5 weeks, 10 hours of lectures - Cost: $150 - 10% Discount for all patrons at the Involved tier or higher, apply your discount code at checkout - Participants will be given access to lesson recordings with downloadable audio - You’ll also have the opportunity to apply these ideas to contemporary authors and your own mythopoeic writing! - The course is hosted on the Symbolic World Circle Community platform. Sign up as a free member at https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/join-community before making your purchase.
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    00:47 - Intro music
    01:11 - Introduction
    01:57 - James' reaction to The Gospels seminar
    05:04 - JBP mediating the panel discussion
    09:25 - Members of the panel
    11:55 - Approaching Scripture from different perspectives
    15:23 - James' scholarly approach vs Jonathan's analogical approach
    20:37 - A time of flux
    28:18 - Paul Kingsnorth's First Things address
    32:44 - Instrumentalizing Christianity
    38:52 - Self-sacrificial love
    41:39 - Recognize weaponized compassion
    43:11 - Fetishizing weakness?
    48:22 - The end of the story
    51:34 - Technology
    54:45 - New people coming to church

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  • This is a repost of the patron video for January 2025. Given the recent announcement about project Stargate I delved into modernity's quest for forbidden knowledge and how it relates to today's obsession with UFOs, AI, psychedelics, and even transgenderism.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/h79SINKwmjA

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    NEW COURSE: The Symbolic World Goes to Middle-Earth

    Join us for an in-depth study of J.R.R. Tolkien’s Legendarium, where we'll explore his masterful use of medieval literary genres, Christian storytelling traditions, and hidden philology. This course, presented by Richard Rohlin, will guide you through Tolkien's vision for a "Mythology for England," examining his work as a complex tapestry of Universal History. Through this journey, we’ll also examine Tolkien’s use of epic poems, chronicles, and literary devices to craft a truly legendary vision of the past, present, and future. Thereafter, we'll look at how his work has inspired later authors of fantasy, shaped the genre more generally, and continues to aid our recovery of deeper, cosmological storytelling.
    - Dates: Live classes are on Mondays at 1 PM Central starting March 3, 2025
    - Course length: 5 weeks, 10 hours of lectures
    - Cost: $150
    - 10% Discount for all patrons at the Involved tier or higher, apply your discount code at checkout
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    - You’ll also have the opportunity to apply these ideas to contemporary authors and your own mythopoeic writing!
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    Register today: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/tolkien-and-universal-history

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  • For the past few decades we have heard from the new atheists just how horrible religion is, that religion is responsible for all these terrible things like the inquisition and witch burnings - but what if I told you that there are patterns or structures behind this kind of behaviour that are simply human, and are not unique to religious people, nor to your ideological or political opponents, but exist fundamentally in all identities.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/SQSDCcFKSrQ

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    The Symbolic World Goes to Middle-earth! Join Richard Rohlin for his new course on Tolkien and Universal History. As always patrons at the Involved tier or higher qualify for a 10% discount. Apply your unique discount code at checkout. Read more here: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/tolkien-and-universal-history
    In his famous Letter #131 to Milton Waldman, J.R.R. Tolkien described his Legendarium as an attempt to create a vast cycle of stories. These stories would be dedicated to his home country and as such this concept has often been described by Tolkien scholars as a “Mythology for England.” This course will take this concept a step further by examining the Legendarium as an attempt at a work of Universal History, one which uses both ancient and modern storytelling genres to reconcile conflicting visions of English, European, and Western identity. We will then apply those methods to contemporary storytelling efforts, revealing how Tolkien opens the way to a return to cosmological and legendary Christian storytelling tradition.

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  • In this episode Richard Rohlin goes solo to give us an introduction about JRR Tolkien's vision for Universal History. Later this month he will be teaching a course on this topic.
    Register now for the Tolkien and Universal History course by Richard Rohlin on The Symbolic World website: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/tolkien-and-universal-history

    Cost: $150
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    Live classes: February 24 - March 24, 5 weeks, 10 hours of lectures.
    Lecture recordings will be made available with downloadable audio.

    =====Timestamps====
    01:07 - Introduction
    03:36 - What makes Tolkien unique?
    07:53 - Tolkien & universal history
    12:28 - The Arthurian legends
    22:13 - Redeeming the elves
    26:45 - Redeeming the gods
    27:40 - Medieval genres: Chronicles
    29:35 - Poetry
    31:17 - The Silmarillion
    34:10 - Retelling culture-founding narratives
    36:09 - The Lord of the Rings
    38:44 - The novel
    42:16 - Writing assignment

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  • In this conversation, Jonathan Pageau and Annie Crawford delve into C.S. Lewis's work, particularly focusing on 'Till We Have Faces.' They explore the significance of this book in understanding Lewis's thought, its mythic elements, and the interplay between paganism and Christian themes. The discussion also touches on the evolution of Lewis's writing style, the role of myth and fairy tales, and the complex themes of mimetic desire and sacrifice present in the narrative. The symbolism of the veil is highlighted as a key element in understanding the duality of truth and deception in Lewis's work.

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    Keywords
    C.S. Lewis, Till We Have Faces, myth, paganism, Christian themes, literary analysis, mimetic desire, symbolism, re-enchantment, allegory, C.S. Lewis, myth, duality, sacrifice, modernity, paganism, rationalism, consciousness, reintegration, renewal

  • Fr. Stephen De Young is back on the podcast to discuss his latest book, St. Paul the Pharisee. St. Paul is at the core of many modern misunderstandings about Christianity; Fr. Stephen presents how we can understand St. Paul’s writings within the context of who he was, when he lived, and who he was addressing in his epistles, ultimately bringing us closer to the vision Christ Himself gave us.

    -Buy Fr. Stephen’s book on the Ancient Faith Store - Saint Paul the Pharisee: Jewish Apostle to All Nations: https://store.ancientfaith.com/saint-paul-the-pharisee-jewish-apostle-to-all-nations/
    -On Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Saint-Paul-Pharisee-Apostle-Nations/dp/1955890706

    ==========Book description==========
    The centuries after the Protestant Reformation brought about a radical reinterpretation of the epistles of St. Paul, disconnected from any historical reality. But Paul operated, during his entire life, as a faithful Pharisee within the Roman Jewish world. In Saint Paul the Pharisee: Jewish Apostle to All Nations, Fr. Stephen De Young surveys Paul’s life and writings, interpreting them within the Holy Tradition of the Orthodox Church. This survey is followed by De Young’s interpretive translation of St. Paul’s epistles, which deliberately avoids overly familiar terminology. By using words and ideas grounded in first-century Judaism, De Young hopes to unsettle commonly held notions and help the reader reassess St. Paul in his historical context.

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    ==========Other links==========
    Lord of Spirits podcast: https://www.ancientfaith.com/podcasts/lordofspirits/
    Fr. Stephen’s talk at the Symbolic World Summit 2024, Friedrich Nietzsche’s Guide to the Bodily Resurrection: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OVbxZJ463Q
    Daily Wire The Gospels seminar: https://www.dailywire.com/show/the-gospels

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    ==========Timestamps==========
    00:00 - Coming up
    01:13 - Intro music
    01:38 - Introduction to St. Paul and Contextual Understanding
    06:16 - Settling the "works vs faith" debate
    13:06 - St. Paul and the Gospels: A Unified Message
    15:37 - Scholasticism vs Mysticism
    20:17 - The Transformation of Society through St. Paul's Vision
    24:19 - Slavery and Christian Ethics in St. Paul's Writings
    32:34 - The Kingdom of Heaven is already here
    38:15 - Hierarchy bad
    39:58 - The core of St. Paul's teachings: Faithfulness
    41:34 - The Call to Individual Purpose
    46:32 - The Nature of Christian Hierarchy
    51:32 - St. Paul: Context and Misunderstandings
    56:03 - Keeping Jewish practices
    01:04:56 - The Sabbath
    01:05:50 - Tradition preserves context
    01:11:08 - Understanding St. Paul: A Personal Connection

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  • Paul Kingsnorth gave a provocative talk for First Things' Erasmus Lecture of 2024, titled "Against Christian Civilization". In this episode, we discuss the essence of his argument, delving into the fundamental tensions between Christianity and civilization. How does faith interact with culture? What is the Biblical narrative around cities and governance? Are we misusing Christianity as a tool for cultural preservation over pursuing true spiritual transformation? Is Western Civilization as we know it even salvable at this point?

    -Paul Kingsnorth’s First Things talk: "Against Christian Civilization" | 2024 Erasmus Lecture: https://www.youtube.com/live/Y3hMSZqatHI?si=bmT1rqPyEF-LvR0_
    -Written article version of his talk: Against Christian Civilization, January 2025: https://www.firstthings.com/article/2025/01/against-christian-civilization

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    ==========TIMESTAMPS==========
    00:00 - Coming up
    01:31 - Intro music
    01:56 - Introduction
    03:02 - The essence of Paul's talk
    07:13 - Civilization and Revelation
    12:02 - A Christian's challenge
    16:45 - The Biblical vision
    31:13 - What about the rulers?
    37:01 - Buildings
    42:10 - Brands and idols
    47:27 - The seed and the fruit
    49:24 - Celebrating stories

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  • In celebration of the Feast of Theophany I discuss the role of St. John the Baptist, or St. John the Forerunner, as he's known in the Orthodox tradition. Why does Christ need a forerunner? What is he actually doing, symbolically? And how does his appearance, behavior, and death participate in the pattern that's already being set up in the Old Testament?

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    ==========NEW SYMBOLIC WORLD COURSE==========
    Join us for Annie Crawford's course on C.S. Lewis' Till We Have Faces, starting live on January 17th, 2025. If you register before Thursday, 8 pm EST, you can get 15% off with the discount code: LEWIS2025. Register now: https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/courses/till-we-have-faces-with-annie-crawford

    ==========TIMESTAMPS==========
    00:00 - Introduction
    00:32 - Intro music
    00:57 - The role of St. John
    04:05 - Prefigurations of St. John
    04:21 - The flood of Noah
    05:15 - The Tower of Babel
    06:06 - The Exodus
    07:55 - Elijah
    09:37 - St. John in the wilderness
    12:36 - The voice in the desert
    13:51 - Wild
    15:58 - Stability in Logos
    17:55 - Elijah will return
    21:49 - Taken up before the end
    23:21 - Joseph in Egypt
    26:16 - Conclusion

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  • For this interview I have a great discussion with organist, pianist, conductor, arranger, and recording artist Matthew Wilkinson, who also happened to put together the Symbolic World intro music. We delve into the symbolism of music, particularly focusing on Bach's organ works. The discussion also touches on the evolution of musical styles from the Baroque period to the Classical, modern and postmodern eras, the historical context of music, from the music of the spheres to modern dissonance, and how these concepts reflect broader ideas about hierarchy and opposites.

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    Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/d-9FRODiDKM

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    00:56 - Intro music
    01:21 - Introduction
    02:18 - The album on Bach
    05:38 - Trinitarian symbolism
    14:49 - Meaning in structure vs outside it
    20:15 - The hero's journey
    22:05 - Signatures
    25:06 - Subject and countersubject
    26:19 - The organ
    29:25 - Going through the entrances
    32:39 - Various subjects
    35:03 - Baroque
    36:37 - Counterpoint
    37:21 - Duality in music
    40:14 - Music of the spheres
    43:54 - Hierarchy in beats
    47:15 - Glenn Gould
    49:19 - The dialectic
    51:04 - Hierarchy in music
    55:16 - Music in the modern era
    01:07:45 - Postmodernism

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