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How do Muslims deal with what looks like the comprehensive success of Western civilisation. Is it time to accept defeat, as one writer put it? Or does Islam have something to offer the world that can move us beyond this dysfunctional world.
Our guest today is Hasan Spiker, he argues that modernity is not neutral. The assumption is that modernity is regarded as universal is false. He argues that modernity is Western and its embrace is a means to Western hegemony and domination. He is the author of this soon to be published work, published on the 26th November – The Unraveling of Intelligibility.
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How do Muslims deal with what looks like the comprehensive success of Western civilisation. Is it time to accept defeat, as one writer put it? Or does Islam have something to offer the world that can move us beyond this dysfunctional world.
Our guest today is Hasan Spiker, he argues that modernity is not neutral. The assumption is that modernity is regarded as universal is false. He argues that modernity is Western and its embrace is a means to Western hegemony and domination. He is the author of this soon to be published work, published on the 26th November – The Unraveling of Intelligibility.
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Timestamps:
0:00 – Introduction
1:58 – Muslims Disempowered?
4:34 – What is Modernity?
9:42 – Metaphysics and progress
14:51 – Islam and modernity
19:00 – The 5 Bifurcations
24:20 – Importance of Sharia
25:36 – Separating sacred from spirit
27:58 – Sharia vs Spiritual
29:57 – The second bifurcation
37:43 – Protestantism and secularism
41:02 – Nation-state and modernity
44:06 – Liberalism development
49:52 – The third bifurcation
53:02 – Reasoning religious belief
56:38 – Empirical vs Metaphysics
59:10 – The fourth bifurcation
1:08:21 – non-recognition of Metaphysics
1:11:40 – The final bifurcation
1:13:47 – The west’s Machiavellianism
1:17:20 – Liberalism’s Façade
1:19:18 – Gaza western hegemony
1:27:17 – Ideologies and modernity
1:31:58 – Islams counter-hegemony
1:41:41 – City of Love
1:45:51 – Strength of modernity
1:50:30 – Islam will save modernity
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What does Trump mean for the wider world, how do we position Trump’s America First philosophy in the context of US Unipolarity. Are we seeing the unravelling of the US in the world? To help us understand Trumps America I am happy to have back on the show Sami Hamdi. Sami is an analysts and campaigner and we are forever indebted to his energy.
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Timestamps:
0:00 – Introduction
3:49 – How much did Gaza play in Kamala’s loss?
17:00 – The Muslim community’s role in Kamala’s loss
21:15 – The Green Party not a vehicle?
23:00 – The power of Dawah
31:30 – Has Gaza brought about a shift?
37:11 – Is Netanyahu emboldened by the Trump presidency?
43:45 – Does Iran have to worry about Trump?
56:42 – Is the Trump administration going to be more ‘America First’?
1:04:35 – ‘America First’ from a trade perspective
1:10:37 – Gaza created a new environment
1:14:27 – What will dictate the future of America?
1:15:58 – Public opinion in America turning towards Nationalism?
1:19:25 – Dawah’s ability to shift society
1:27:20 – Never forget that Gazans are at the centre of all of this
1:38:30 – The reward for our activism is Jannah – centre this
1:43:00 – Connecting Dawah to politics
1:55:09 – Is politics so ingrained within Sami that he will carry on in Jannah?
1:57:56 – We all build on the backs of each other
1:58:45 – Imagine the impact we have if we continue moving
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Should we, people who remain married to justice, accept that international law, if it ever did work, is today defunct? In a broader sense, when we pursue its application are we in danger of creating a sense of false hope. These are the existential questions we are now asking ourselves as the genocide proceeds at pace into its 2nd year.
My guest today is Francesca Albanese, an international lawyer who has been in the eye of the storm, speaking truth at the highest levels. Francesca specialises in international humanitarian law and is the special rapporteur for the UN reporting on Palestine.
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0:00 – Introduction
3:21 – Is international law the problem?
5:05 – ICC ruling, why the delayed decision?
7:07 – How effective are the ICJ judgements ?
9:54 – Who is the system working for?
11:05 – Is Francesca hopeful about international justice?
13:27 – David Lammy and the definition of genocide
16:51 – The reluctance of the West to call this a genocide
19:30 – Is October 7th a catalyst for ethnic cleansing?
26:03 – Can Israel be isolated by the UN?
29:27 – Arab and Muslim countries lack of solidarity
33:48 – How successful can the ICJ complaint be?
37:08 – Weaponizing of antisemitism
41:40 – How can young Muslims stay active?
44:45 – How does Francesca stay motivated in an unjust world?
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There’s an assumption that the West have remained honest brokers in the Gaza genocide, or at least critical friends of Israel. My guest today Matt Kennard argues that contrary to public utterances, the British government, like the Americans are deeply involved in Israel’s merciless bombing of Gaza. They are providing military support, intelligence, diplomatic cover whilst at the same time claiming they want a quick resolution to the slaughter.
Matt is an independent journalist and author of three books Irregular Army, Silent coup and The Racket
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Timestamps:
0:00 – Introduction
2:03 – Britain’s participation in the Gaza genocide
7:48 – The secrecy around the intelligence
10:26 – Britain leads in giving intelligence to Israel
12:11 – How do we apply pressure on the Labour government?
15:37 – We need transparency around Cyprus
24:23 – Mainstream media’s complicity
32:15 – Has the Labour government really shifted?
37:29 – Labour has lost control of the narrative
42:37 – How can the activist space reset their focus
51:42 – How do we recalibrate the Palestinian movement
54:11 – Have people moved on from Gaza?
59:29 – What can we do?
1:04:31 – The role of the Muslim Community
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The US elections are nearly upon us, and we have all be subject to the empty words and rhetoric of of the two main political parties. The Green Party has gained a lot of traction, especially amongst the countries small but very important Muslim community. I have already interviewed the leader of the Greens, Dr Jill Stein. But Today I have the pleasure to speak with Professor Butch Bilal Ware, its Vice Presidential nominee.
Professor Butch Ware is a lifelong activist and educator specializing in the history of empire, colonialism, genocide and revolution. For the past two decades, Ware has put scholarship in service of the people, especially in response to the ongoing genocide in Gaza, as well as the George Floyd murder in 2020.
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0:00 Introduction
2:00 Embrace Islam at 15
5:00 Malcolm X and radicalism
9:09 Sufis and being radical
13:21 Diluting radical tradition
19:40 Green Party and Liberals
23:25 Green’s and social issues
31:57 Uyghurs and foreign policy
40:06 His political leanings
45:55 Can Muslims work independently
52:44 Voting for Trump
58:31 George Floyd
1:03:32 Fascism in US
1:11:42 Dismantling Empire
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The Abandon Harris campaign has been making waves across the US. It has galvanised largely Muslim and conscientious Americans so build a coalition together to resist the genocidal administration through the ballot box. They have a lot of detractors, paid democratic people ready to defame them. But my guest today is relentless.
Hassan Abdel Salam is one of two founders of the Abandon Harris movement. He is also the Executive Director of the Civil Rights Alliance for America, which is the organization that is organizing and coordinating the Abandon Harris movement. Hassan Abdel Salam has been a professor of strategy, movements, and human rights, for 12 years.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 – His movements
5:54 – The Greens
9:13 – Is this realistic ?
18:40 – A return to Democrats
23:32 – Trump
28:20 – Are you winning?
35:51 – Is the appeal just Muslim?
43:44 – Speaking truth
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I know that not all Americans value what I have to say on the US elections. However, I do receive many emails and messages daily asking for advice, and my podcast, The Thinking Muslim, has been fairly instrumental in setting the correct intellectual parameters in parts of the US Muslim community when forming a conscious electoral decision on November 5th.
My original position was to echo the views of many leaders within the US Muslim community who have said Muslim voters must disavow the two parties and opt for a third-party option, whoever that may be. But upon reflection, I think that advice, although in the right direction, will not procure the intended result – simply because it will diffuse the messaging of our vote. And thus diffuse its ability to make a statement. That’s why I have concluded that Muslims must vote for the Green Party on November 5th, even if they disagree, as I do, with some parts of their policy platform and public positions.
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The pro-genocide administration of Biden and Harris has been involved in a frenetic outreach to America’s small but vocal Muslim community. These critical constituents in crucial battleground states like Michigan are where November’s election will be won or lost. Both parties, the Democrats and Republicans, are Zionist to their core, but this genocide has happened with the seal of approval and the consent of the Biden-Harris administration.
Is Gaza a turning point? Can we move beyond this two-party nightmare? Are third-party options plausible in a system that approves only two possibilities? Or is voting for anyone but the two bad options a wasted vote? And what of the broader question of the US empire and its propensity to violence? How will this election address what the world observes as an imperium without moral or ethical standards?
Today I have a very special guest, Dr Jill Stein, leader of the Green Party and Presidential candidate. Jill is a Harvard educated doctor, an environmentalist, campaigner and organiser.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
2:00 Is a vote for the Green Party a vote for Trump?
6:27 Voters vs Donors
7:31 Why is Kamala Harris not opposing the Genocide?
9:22 Does the Green Party have a Syria problem?
12:47 Oppressive leaders
14:24 Mehdi Hasan's position on Kamala Harris
20:33 How does voting Green Party help Gaza?
22:00 Green Party being contested
23:30 AIPAC is running America
25:38 The Responsibility of a Third Party
32:41 Building a Third Party for the American people
35:00 Muslims in the Green Party
39:50 5% of The Popular vote
44:46 Dr Stein's vision of American power?
50:59 Where do Ordinary Americans stand?
59:26 It's Not Too Late
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I have been struck by the thoughtful and nuanced conversations that are being had across the US about the coming elections. But there remains confusion. One such community that probably has reason to be sceptical of mainstream Muslim organisations and their approach to politics, as relationships, is the all-important African American Muslim community – very often neglected in any conversation.
I have invited today to show someone who I deeply respect for how he thought through these essential topics long before Gaza came along to haunt us. Imam Dawud Walid is the author of Towards Sacred Activism and an Imam in Michigan.
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We have seen the horrific genocidal scenes unfolding in the north of Gaza and in particular the onslaught by the occupation in Jabaliya. There is a horrendous cleansing of Palestinians, apparently to make way for Israeli settler expansion and cut the territory into two. This is a Nakba but worse. A catastrophe. But the world seems to remain silent. On a deeper level – many are asking when will the help of Allah come? How do we deal with this situation as a personal trauma.
My guest today, is Imam Fuad Abdo, himself from palestine. Imam Fuad is the imam of Goodmayes Mosque, and someone who I have seen firsthand at the forefront of activism – especially encouragement the encampment movement.
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The US elections are in full flow, with the two big parties focussing on the key swing states that will decide this election. In states like Michigan, a slight movement of voters can determine the outcome. And this means Muslim voters may play a decisive role.
To help us understand the political and intellectual climate, I have invited back onto the show Imam Tom Facchine show. Imam Tom has been instrumental in galvanising Muslims behind the anti-Harris campaign, and he joins us from Pennsylvania.
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Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
2:09 - Mehdi re Trump worse
8:31 – You are supporting Trump
11:43 – Trump vs Harris
17:47 – Lesser of the two evils
22:33 – Emgage and Harris
29:38 – Emgage no excuse
33:08 – Michigan is the showdown
40:46 – Green Party challenges
45:43 – Quantifying our Gaza votes
48:05 – Leverage within Democrats
50:55 – Staying at home
53:20 – US Exceptionalism
57:16 – Liberal ideology
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To help us unpick the relationship between Western foreign policy and media our guest this week is Hamza Yusuf is a British-Palestinian writer and journalist whose work focuses on Palestine. He has reported on daily life under occupation for Palestinians, including home demolitions and forced expulsion and the conditions for Palestinians in Israeli prisons. He is an investigative journalist at Declassified amongst other publications.
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The Biden-Harris administration has aided and abetted genocide. The argument they still deserve our vote is not only politically naïve but is also built upon a bed of lies. We must show courage in this election and vote for a third party. This is not only morally the correct position; it is the only way to build long-term political leverage for the American Muslim community. Read Muhammad Jalal's full article here: https://jalalayn.substack.com/p/harri...
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Please subscribe ** Dr Yakoob Ahmed interviews your host, Muhammad Jalal.
The genocide in Gaza and the need for enlightened activism was captured by the guests and content that came out on The Thinking Muslim. We had become accustomed to calls for immediate action, some of which were short-lived. But what The Thinking Muslim did was to place this activism within a sacred responsibility. That's why it captured so many imaginations and activated so many people.
Much of The Thinking Muslim's content has been carefully curated and well thought through, and the guests showcased are amongst the most articulate and thoughtful in their field.
Someone somewhere had the idea that Muhammad Jalal should answer questions from the Thinking Muslim audience, so they asked Dr Yakoob Ahmed to file these questions – and some of my own – to its host.
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Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
2:00 – Feelings?
2:45 – How did you start?
10:00 – Challenges faced
13:55 – The Team
17:50 – How Gaza changed everything
22:10 – Non-Muslim guests?
26:10 – How do you choose guests
29:56 – Pushing back
33:21 – UK elections and Gaza
38:08 – The election strategy
40:12 – Attacks from media
4215 – How invested are you in this system?
46:16 – University scene
49:20 – US elections
51:25 – Why visit the US
53:22 – US Muslims are different
58:16 – Anti- Harris campaign
1:00:07 – Young Muslims
1:01:34 – US empire?
1:03:40 – The left and right
1:10:13 – Islamic alternative
1:14:50 – Unity of Muslims
1:16:40 – Post-Gaza
1:18:40 – Guest selection
1:21:18 – Infantilising young Muslims
1:25:47 Book recommendation
1:28:59 – Dr Aafia Siqqiqui.
1:31:28 – Future of TM
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Is modern society failing our children? Has the quest for constant progress, through the use of technology and the desire to constantly engage our children with stimuli and keep them busy with lives that we have curated for them, been to the detriment of childhood? A recent global childhood report found that British children are the most unhappy in the Western world despite our relative material progress. Yet, there is rarely a conversation about the root causes.
My guest today, Ahmed Paul Keeler, is the AUTHOR OF RETHINKING ISLAM AND THE WEST. And also the author of a soon to be published book titled the Gazan Awakening. He has thought a lot about the issues involved in nurturing a true childhood. How can we resist the excesses of modernity and exhibit the timeless qualities of Islam in our lives?
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0:00 Introduction
2:04 Why is Childhood so important
20:00 Capitalism
25:30 How has childhood been breached
30:27 Teenage angst
41:40 Was it really good in the past?
53:00 Reclaiming Childhood
1:08:39 Motherhood and Fatherhood
1:18:40 The new generation
1:23:00 His new Gaza book
1:31:58 His poem
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The ongoing slaughter in Gaza and now the carpet bombing of Lebanon has at its backdrop the US elections. Both Kamala Harris and Donald Trump have clearly stated their intentions to back Israel, and it is hard sometimes to place a cigarette paper between them.
So how should American Muslims respond to the genocide. Should they abandon Harris? I am planning to visit the US very soon inshallah and will be meeting with American Muslim leaders and others as I attempt to piece together an answer to these crucial questions. But to begin the conversation, I have invited back onto the show Sami Hamdi to share his thoughts.
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0:00 – Introduction
03:00 Is there a Harris bounce in the polls
07:06 If Harris loses, Zionism loses?
13:34 Why is AIPAC worried?
20:00 Shifting US public opinion
26:58 Muslims in swing states
30:01 Supporting Trump
38:19 Third-party candidates
48:21 Should we endorse Jill Stein
57:39 The lesser of the two evils
1:18:00 Are US Muslims ready for sacrifice
1:39:40 Non-Muslim allies
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Sami Hamdi has been at the fore of the conversation about how Muslims should respond to the unparalleled attack upon Gaza. The brutality with which the Israelis now act with impunity is clear for the majority of the world to see, but the West remains immune to its crimes. That’s partly because the West does not and cannot see Israel as anything but a benevolent project in a region that requires a Western presence. A colony. An imperial parasite whose crimes are erased by those funding its campaign of annihilation. Israel is not, as the conventional wisdom suggests, out of control. It is a project of the West. The West is Israel and Israel is the West. The two are symbiotically linked. Their destiny is one.
This past week, we have seen the latest escalation, the systematic use of communications pagers and walk-in talkies to kill and maim indiscriminately across Lebanon and parts of Syria. The response in much of the Western press has been to praise the action as creative and daring. But what lay behind this escalation, what is Israel’s game plan, and where do the Muslim rulers now sit, almost a year after this act of mass murder?
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0:00 – Introduction
2:20 – Why did Israel do this?
10:25 – Netanyahu’s calculation with Iran
15:14 – Role of the US in this crisis
19:47 – US involvement
22:07 – Iranian restraint
28:05 – How do we view what happened
31:38 – Was Syria US inspired?
38:00 – Did Iran help the Syrians?
46:09 – Saudi Arabia and Normalisation
53:19 – Erdoğan and Türkiye
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The Sunni Shia divide remains an open wound and a means by which our enemies meddle in our internal affairs. Since the war on terror, and the horrible sectarianism unleashed on Iraq, this divide has got even bigger and has often led to bloody violence. However, amidst this turmoil, we often hear voices from within the Ummah and beyond, dreaming of unity to confront the misery, humiliation, and suffering of the oppressed, especially in the current situation with Palestine. But it’s a difficult topic, there are a host of theological and political concerns and the current tussle between Saudi Arabia and Iran makes any talk of reconciliation or an overlapping consensus politically charged.
Dr Suwaidan is a profile writer, speaker, trainer and in many ways has brought much needed intellectual thought to our age.
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0:00 – Introduction
1:55 – Iraq: Framing sectarianism
10:00 – Iran’s Shia exceptionalism
15:30 – Iran and Shia not the same
16:48 – Why do we need unity?
21:03 – Overlapping consensus?
22:06 – How do we do this?
24:32 – Declaring takfir and abuse of companions
31:44 – A major cultural shift?
33:50 – Our enemies using our division
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It is said a people without a past are a lost soul. And in today’s turbulent world, the Muslim ummah has come to realise that we have, in many cases, been taught a version of history that fails to appreciate what the late Shabbir Akhtar called Islam as a imperial faith.
Dr Yakoob Ahmed is an academic specialising in late Ottoman history. He was until recently a lecturer in Islamic history at Istanbul University. He is a regular to this podcast and writes and lectures extensively on Ottoman history. He is the author of a soon to be published title, Does History Matter – history done islamically - the conversation of today.
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0:00 Introduction
2:00 Gaza at the crossed roads
8:08 History as a vocation
11:08 Islam as an Imperial Faith
14:40 Historians providing solutions
19:48 What are we doing wrong with history?
25:26 Idealism?
32:50 The Quran and History
37:32 Ibn Khuldun’s cyclical theory
43:22 Islam and the production of knowledge
50:40 Fiction and Ertrugul
55:20 Islamic method of history?
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Gaza has been a hurtful experience. This year we saw the passing of a milestone, 100 years without a central leadership. The last Ottoman Caliphate, with all its faults, remained a global force and acted as a shield for this ummah. So why have we declined to such a degree that it seems our leadership is inept and our ummah has not moved over Gaza. And what now can we do about it?
Dr Tareq al-Suwaidan is a prolific writer, speaker, trainer and in many ways has brought much needed intellectual thought to our age.
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0:00 Introduction
2:21 – Why has the ummah not moved?
7:18 – is it s leadership issue
12:10 – Western interference?
14:10 – Excuses of the rulers
17:03 – Decline inevitable?
25:28 – Prophetic method
34:25 – Do we need a new leader?
37:41 – Muslim political unity
42:58 – Poor scholarship
51:55 – Responding to Gaza’s pain
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