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Every year over 4,000 unidentified bodies are recovered in the United States. 600,000 people are reported as missing, and thousands more go unreported. The Butterfly Effect is an investigative podcast that seeks to reunite the nameless with their identities.
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In the second half of this interview, Keyes shares his thoughts on other serial killers like BTK, Ted Bundy, and The Green River Killer. Then he discusses his plans for the future, losing control, and how the facade of his life was moving further and further away from who he really was. He also goes into detail regarding the New York victim, the Curriers, breaking into homes, arsons, and fatherhood... and public art.
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In this interview, Keyes discusses publicity and strategy, the impacts of his crimes on his family, searching for remains, the NY victim, lies he's told about his time in Texas, and serial killers he's read about and studied.
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This is Keyes's first interview following his failed escape attempt from court. They discuss the Curriers, the NY victim, negotiating publicity, the boat, Washington jurisdictions, speculation, protecting his family, and more.
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Season finale.
TCB will be back in October.
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Michelle Tooker, Shana Wilensky, and Jordan Taylor.
Sources include:
• KARK.com
• 4029TV.com
• The Northwest Arkansas Democrat Gazette
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Amy Basil, Kendall C., Asch Fish, Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Pink, JenJ, Robin, Carol, H Beth Jones, Michelle, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, Sara Cee, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Virginia Williams, Carrie, Jeff, Jordan T, Bethany, David Begley, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Chris S, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Meaghan Daigle, Melissa Tracchia, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen Troccola, Trixie
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Whithe, Sero, LaBon, and Sergey Cheremisinov
With featured music by: Sigur Ros
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The team returns to Texas to look at a case, which Jordan has been following for four years, that involves a suspicious death, an arson, and an abandoned house. And this case may just shed light on some of Keyes's odder travels and some new and unsettling information on the Azle bank robbery.
This episode was written, researched, and produced by Jordan Taylor.
With editing and writing by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research assistance by: Michelle Tooker.
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SOURCES
• Houston Police Department Casefile, Case #030249612
• FBI interview with Israel Keyes: 07/12/12
• Harris County Office of Forensic Sciences Report 12-0671
• Houston Fire Department Report 12-0680736
• HOUSTON, TX Weather History | Weather underground. (n.d.). https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/KHOU/date/2012-3-9
• Pinkerton, J. (2014, April 5). HPD sergeant fired, 7 other disciplined in murder case probe. Chon. Retrieved May 26, 2025, from https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/HPD-sergeant-fired-7-others-disciplined-in-5377253.php
• Pearson, L. (n.d.). Who came up with HPD’s “SL” code that suspended 264K cases? Panel identifies former assistant chief. https://abc13.com/amp/post/houston-police-suspended-cases-what-is-sl-code-lack-of-personnel-donald-mckinney/14822151/
• FBI interview with Israel Keyes: 07/10/2012
• James E. Lankford. (2011). Peak DB SPL of various Firearms (5 Miyara, F. (n.d.). A NOTE ON FIRECRACKER’S NOISE. https://www.fceia.unr.edu.ar/acustica/biblio/firecr1.htm
• In J Am Acad Audiology (Vol. 22, pp. 93–103). https://www.caohc.org/UserFiles/fileShot%20of%20Prevention%20extra%20handout.pdf
• Miyara, F. (n.d.). A NOTE ON FIRECRACKER’S NOISE. https://www.fceia.unr.edu.ar/acustica/biblio/firecr1.htm
• Azele Police Dept Case # 2012-961
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A case the team has been looking into for over four years, makes its podcast debut; where a crime in an Israel Keyes hotspot eerily matches a chapter from one of his favorite books.
This episode was written, researched, and produced by Michelle Tooker.
Additional research, editing, and writing by Josh Hallmark.
Research assistance by: Shana Wilensky and Jordan Taylor.
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SOURCES
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/unsolved-jeffrey-mitchell-murder-sacramento-17382062.php
https://www.facebook.com/share/1GyTUQpCYZ/
https://www.dailydemocrat.com/2006/10/29/link-between-van-deputy-explored/?clearUserState=true
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/crime/unsolved-california-wife-of-murdered-deputy-shares-her-hope-for-justice-and-how-she-keeps-jeffrey-mitchells-legacy-alive/103-9e1af8e8-984b-4c1a-b69f-ec7cc64b9e85
https://ohp.parks.ca.gov/listedresources/detail/575
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/238696800/jeffrey\_vaughn-mitchell
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article2581679.html
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/sacbee/name/allan-shubert-obituary?id=13658767
https://unresolved.me/deputy-jeffrey-mitchell
https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/sacramento-county-woman-vanished-2010-homicide-suspect-arrested/
https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/sacbee/name/allan-shubert-obituary?id=13658767
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Josh and the team discuss how Israel Keyes used infrastructure maps to scout, hide and/or bury his caches and victims. This may just be the key to solving his crimes.
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Kathy Nation, Jordan Taylor, and Michelle Tooker.
This episode featured Kathy Nation, Jordan Taylor, Michelle Tooker, and Shana Wilensky.
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Music by: Sonic Yard.
Featured music by: The Foundry Field Recordings
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Josh and team dissect various information and semantics surrounding Keyes's male-female couple. They circle back to Eugene Hyatt and Kami Vollendroff, and then deep-dive the disappearance of a Spokane couple. Then new information from a friend of Keyes gives the team a new perspective not on just the male-female couple and the vicitm ruled accidental, but potentially all of Keyes's unknown victims.
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RESOURCES
NAMUSThe Charley ProjectPacificorps.comLowImpacthydro.orgDamsafety.orgThe Washington state digital archivesThe Spokesman Review
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Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, and Sero.
Featured music by: Patrick Watson
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The FBI releases some surprising new information obtained from Keyes, including more maps. Josh begins connecting a handful of those maps to facts, theories, tips, and potential victims.
This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With research by: Jordan Taylor, Michelle Tooker, and Kathleen S.
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Music by: LaBon.
Featured music by: Sarah Belkner
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In light of new revelations about Keyes's childhood and time in Eastern Washington, we further explore his upbringing, religious history, and his family's beliefs; which all lead us back to that farmhouse in Hunters, Washington. And from there, we try to make sense of what happened on April 2, 2005.
This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With research by: Jordan Taylor
And additional research by: Michelle Tooker and Shana Wilensky.
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https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1997/jun/17/cheyne-kehoe-turns-himself-in-brother-still-on/https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hatewatch/influential-christian-identity-pastor-dies/https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/christian-identity/https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/christian-identity-movementhttps://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/christian-identity-movement-analyzing-its-theologicalhttps://califias.blogspot.com/2014/10/art-bulla-and-church-of-jesus-christ.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliven_Bundy
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A childhood friend of Israel's comes forward to discuss his time in Colville, Christian Identity, the Keyes family, Israel's early crimes, and more.
This episode was written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
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A childhood friend of Israel's comes forward to discuss his time in Colville, Christian Identity, the Keyes family, Israel's early crimes, and more.
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We first covered Hunters, Washington back in season two. And while our reporting on it paused, our investigation into it did not. Jordan and an anonymous source have spent years digging into Hunters and the abandoned farmhouse there. And even as we thought there was nothing left to find, new information began pouring in. And continued pouring in as recording and post-production on this episode were happening.
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Josh and Michelle Tooker examine Keyes's comments about and references to abducting and murdering couples. They take a look at what exactly that might mean, follow-up on previously covered cases, and take a look at new ones. And then they hone in on what the team may have been overlooking all along.
This episode was written, researched, and produced by Michelle Tooker.
It was edited and post-produced by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky and Jordan Taylor.
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Featured song by: Peter & Kerry
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Josh follows up on a new tip from FBI Special Agent Ted Halla. It takes him to familiar ground, both literally and in cases he's looked into previously. This new tip, with some research and fascinating conversations, compels Josh to some interesting and shocking conclusions.
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
Additional research by: Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Jordan Taylor.
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Josh goes over the investigation into Israel Keyes's death; including what was found in his cell, what led to it, and how it happened. Plus new information opens an online can of worms, and sends Josh to Washington state.
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In the season 7 premiere, Josh goes over a long list of significant new evidence, answers a few big questions, and asks plenty more new questions. A picture of a woman found in Keyes's car paints a very clear picture of some of his activity. New maps, journals, writings, and more set the stage for an eye-opening season.
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As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.
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As we prepare for Season 7 of True Crime Bullsh**, we're sharing episodes from the past 6 seasons that will be foundational for the upcoming season.
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