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Queer poet and writer Cass Donish is the author of three books including The Year of the Femme, Beautyberry, and the new poetry collection Your Dazzling Death. Today on the show, Cass and Annmarie talk about grief, queer love, and how to heal in the face of suicide loss.
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Prairie Lights Books – Iowa City’s premier indie bookstore since 1978. Perhaps the strength of our reputation lies in the reading series of local, national and international writers who have read their works which were broadcast live on stations WSUI and WOI and which was the only regular literary series of its kind. All of this could not have been possible without a loyal customer base and a dedicated staff. Learn more or shop online at prairielights.com.
Skylark Bookshop – A fiercely independent bookstore where we strive to find new ways to celebrate literature and our community. Some books give us knowledge and perspective; others simply give necessary space to breathe. Putting the right book into the right hands is a deeply meaningful act. We believe that we can find that book for everyone who walks through our doors. We embrace enjoyment, entertainment, and the beauty of Skylark Bookshop. Stop by or shop online at skylarkbookshop.com.
Left Bank Books – The oldest and largest independently-owned bookstore in St. Louis, Missouri, where we offer a full-line of new and used books, gifts, cards, toys and services. We see ourselves as a cultural institution as well as a retail business. In that spirit, we produce over 300 events per year, most of which are free and open to the public. We've grown and changed throughout our 50 years, but our mission still remains the same – to spark public conversation by curating an intelligent, relevant, culturally diverse selection of books. Stop by or shop online at left-bank.com.
Books by Cass Donish
Your Dazzling Death
The Year of the Femme
Beautyberry
On the Mezzanine
Other Authors and Titles Mentioned in This Episode:
Letters to Forget, by Kelly Caldwell
Here’s a link to the Hot Widows Club podcast.
Here is the trailer for Emily in Paris.
And here’s another for Portrait of a Lady on Fire.
Follow Cass Donish:
Instagram: @cassdonish
Twitter: @CassDonish
cassdonish.com
**Writing Workshops and Wish Fulfillment:
If you know you’ve been looking for the kind of female friendship we’ve spoken about on this show OR if you’re just desperate to get out of America right now, consider joining Annmarie and her co-leader, Phyllis Biffle Elmore, for a writing retreat in France! Learn more here.
You can travel to a beautiful place, meet other wise women, and write your own stories. We’d love to help you make that wish come true.
As of this moment, we only have 3 spots left, but you can click this link for $900 off.
The password is RetreatWriteRepeat
and the coupon code is 25AK
In 2025, Annmarie is teaching online Tuesday nights for Writing Workshops. Learn more and register HERE.
For her folks interested in an online Saturday morning writing class, message Annmarie to learn more.
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Glynnis MacNicol is the author of three books including I'm Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself: One Woman's Pursuit of Pleasure and No One Tells You This. She wrote, produced, and hosted WILDER: A Reckoning with the Legacy of Laura Ingalls Wilder, and she writes the weekly newsletter Good Decisions. On today’s show, Annmarie and Glynnis talk about seeking friendship and pleasure in Paris, the joys of middle age, and how to ask for what you want– and get it.
Episode Sponsors:
Mostly Books – An independent bookstore in Tucson, Arizona, for readers of all ages. We offer a carefully curated selection of New & Used Books, Greeting Cards, T-shirts, and Gifts. Stop by our store in Tucson or buy books and Libro.fm audiobooks on our website: mostlybooksaz.com.
Books Are Magic – A family-owned independent bookstore in Brooklyn, committed to being a welcoming, friendly, and inclusive space for all people. We believe that books are indeed magic and that literature is one of the best ways to create empathy, transportation, and transformation. Stop by or shop online at booksaremagic.net
Books by Glynnis MacNicol
I’m Mostly Here to Enjoy Myself
No One Tells You This
Becoming a Baker
The 10 Habits of Highly Successful Women, co-authored with Rachel Sklar
Other Authors and Titles Mentioned in This Episode:
Big Friendship: How We Keep Each Other Close, by Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman
The Other Significant Others: Reimagining Life with Friendship at the Center, by Rhaina Cohen
Here are the trailers for two Katharine Hepburn movies, Adam’s Rib and
Desk Set.
Follow Glynnis MacNicol:
Instagram: @noonetellsyouthis
glynnismacnicol.com
**Writing Workshops and Wish Fulfillment:
If you know you’ve been looking for the kind of female friendship Glynnis talks about in this interview and in her book, consider joining Annmarie and her co-leader, Phyllis Biffle Elmore, for a writing retreat in France! Learn more here.
You can travel to a beautiful place, meet other wise women, and write your own stories. We’d love to help you make that wish come true.
As of this moment, we only have 3 spots left, but you can click this link for $900 off.
The password is RetreatWriteRepeat
and the coupon code is 25AK
In 2025, Annmarie is teaching online Tuesday nights for Writing Workshops. Learn more and register HERE.
For her folks interested in an online Saturday morning writing class, message Annmarie to learn more.
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Kathleen Glasgow is a poet turned novelist, and she’s the author of the bestselling titles Girl in Pieces, You'd Be Home Now, and How to Make Friends With the Dark, and the coauthor, with Liz Lawson, of the bestselling mystery series, The Agathas. On today’s show, Annmarie and Kathleen talk about her newest book, The Glass Girl, and the complex relationship many families have with alcohol addiction and rehabilitation.
Episode Sponsors:
Mostly Books – An independent bookstore in Tucson, Arizona, for readers of all ages. We offer a carefully curated selection of New & Used Books, Greeting Cards, T-shirts, and Gifts. Stop by our store in Tucson or buy books and Libro.fm audiobooks on our website: mostlybooksaz.com.
Brain Lair Books – A black-owned, woman-owned children's bookstore located in South Bend, Indiana. At Brain Lair, we partner with local schools and universities to help build an inclusive, welcoming community. We specialize in juvenile and young adult literature written by and for Black, Indigenous, People of Color, LGBTQIA+, and Disabled communities, as well as adult nonfiction about ending white supremacy, promoting anti-racism, and becoming a social activist. We can help you find the books you need. Drop by or browse online at brainlairbooks.com.
Books by Kathleen Glasgow
The Glass Girl, by Kathleen Glasgow
Girl in Pieces, by Kathleen Glasgow
You’d Be Home Now, by Kathleen Glasgow
How to Make Friends with the Dark, by Kathleen Glasgow
The Agathas, by Kathleen Glasgow and Liz Lawson
The Night in Question, by Kathleen Glasgow and Liz Lawson
Other Authors and Titles Mentioned in This Episode:
Frighten the Horses, by Oliver Radclyffe
The Bell Jar, by Sylvia Plath
The Perks of Being a Wallflower, by Stephen Chbosky
The Catcher in the Rye, by J.D. Salinger
A Wrinkle in Time, by Madeleine L’Engle
Nancy Drew and the Clue Crew, by Carolyn Keene
Here’s the trailer for Raising Arizona.
Finally, Kathleen is running a fundraiser for Youth on Their Own. If you buy a copy of ANY one of Kathleen’s books and upload your proof of purchase, they’ll make a donation to combat teen homelessness. Go to yoto.org to learn more.
Follow Kathleen Glasgow:
Instagram: @misskathleenglasgow
TikTok: @kathleenglasgow
Facebook: Kathleen Glasgow, Author
Threads: @misskathleenglasgow
kathleenglasgowbooks.com
**Writing Workshop Note: Annmarie’s teaching in-person Tuesday nights for Literary Cleveland. Learn more and register HERE.
Annmarie is teaching online Tuesday nights for Writing Workshops. Learn more and register HERE.
For the online October Saturday morning class, message Annmarie to learn more.
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Oliver Radclyffe is part of a new wave of transgender writers unafraid to examine the places where gender identity, sexual orientation, feminist allegiance, social class, and family history overlap. On today’s show, Annmarie and Oliver talk about his new memoir, FRIGHTEN THE HORSES, and discuss the complex nuances of gender transition.
Episode Sponsors:
Bluestockings – A collectively-run NYC activist center, community space and feminist bookstore that offers mutual aid, harm reduction support, non-judgemental resource research and a warming/cooling place that is radically inclusive of all genders, cultures, expansive sexualities and identities. Bluestockings seeks to empower all people to challenge oppression and participate in creating a society which is equitable, cooperative, and free, and we strive to empower our worker-owners through non-hierarchy, cooperation, and consensus-based decision making, providing an example of the society we are working toward. Stop by or shop online at bluestockings.com.
The Word Is Change – A neighborhood bookstore in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn, selling used and new books, hosting readings and meetings, buying books for resale, and supporting visual artists. Come into the store and find the perfect book you were looking for, OR the perfect book you didn’t even know you were looking for. And shop online at thewordischange.com
Authors and Titles Mentioned in This Episode:
Adult Human Male, by Oliver Radclyffe
Frighten the Horses, by Oliver Radclyffe
Who’s Afraid of Gender? by Judith Butler
The Transgender Issue: An Argument for Justice, by Shon Faye
Here’s a trailer for Once.
Follow Oliver Radclyffe:
Instagram: @oliverradclyffe
Twitter: @RadclyffeOliver
Facebook: OliverRadclyffeWriter
oliverradclyffe.com
**Writing Workshop Note: Annmarie’s teaching in-person Tuesday nights for Literary Cleveland. Learn more and register HERE.
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Rufi Thorpe is the author of four novels, The Girls from Corona del Mar, Dear Fang, With Love, The Knockout Queen, which was a finalist for the PEN/Faulkner award, and her newest Book, Margo's Got Money Troubles, which was recently shortlisted for the Kirkus Prize. On today’s show, Rufi and Annmarie talk about professional wrestling, OnlyFans, and the countless sacrifices parents make for their kids.
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{pages} a bookstore – The place for book lovers of all ages, where reading, meeting and discussing books is a way of life. We offer a carefully curated selection of new fiction, non-fiction, children’s, cooking, surf, coffee table books and bestsellers. We are proud of our knowledgeable and caring staff who can match any reader with the perfect book. Learn more or shop online at pagesabookstore.com.
Annabelle’s Book Club LA – A highly curated collection of books and gifts with a modern point of view. Founded by 17-year-old Annabelle Chang, this YA-focused bookstore aims to spark imagination, inspire connection, and bring joy to people of all ages. Stop or find us online at annabellesbookclubla.com.
Titles by Rufi Thorpe:
Dear Fang, With Love
The Knockout Queen
The Girls from Corona del Mar
Margo’s Got Money Troubles
Other Authors and Titles Mentioned in This Episode:
Dennis Lehane
Walter Mosley
Here are a few trailers for some of Rufi’s favorite shows:
30 Rock
It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia
I Think You Should Leave
The Eric Andre Show
Follow Rufi Thorpe:
Instagram: @rufithorpe
Twitter: @RufiThorpe
Facebook: RufiThorpeAuthor
rufithorpe.com
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Ann Garvin is a USA Today Bestselling author of six novels. She writes about people who do too much in a world that asks too much from them. A former Registered Nurse, Ann currently teaches creative writing at Drexel University. Her latest book is BUMMER CAMP, in which “two sisters scramble to save their family’s legacy in a funny, huge-hearted novel about grandiose plans and summers to remember.” On today’s show, Ann and Annmarie talk about head lice, tick bites, weirdness, and the worries and wonders of camp.
Episode Sponsors:
Mystery to Me – A general bookstore with a very specific name. Of course we curate a wide selection of mystery as well as general and literary fiction, non-fiction, science fiction, fantasy, rom-com, horror, graphic novels, young adult titles, and a delightful children's section. Visit our Madison, Wisconsin location or shop online at mysterytomebooks.com.
Bluestockings – A collectively-run NYC activist center, community space and feminist bookstore that offers mutual aid, harm reduction support, non-judgemental resources, and a warming/cooling place that is radically inclusive of all genders, cultures, expansive sexualities and identities. Bluestockings seeks to empower all people to challenge oppression and participate in creating a society which is equitable, cooperative, and free, and we strive to empower our worker-owners through non-hierarchy, cooperation, and consensus-based decision making, providing an example of the society we are working toward. Stop by or shop online at bluestockings.com.
Titles Mentioned in this Episode:
Bummer Camp, by Ann Garvin
Olive Kitteridge, by Elizabeth Strout
Station Eleven, by Emily St. John Mandel
Here’s the trailer for Station Eleven.
Check out Tall Poppy Writers.
Follow Ann Garvin:
Instagram: @anngarvin_
Twitter: @anngarvin_
Facebook: @ann.w.garvin
anngarvin.com
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Wade Rouse is the USA TODAY, Publishers Weekly, and internationally bestselling author of more than a dozen books which have been translated into 21 languages. On today’s show, Annmarie and Wade discuss difficult parents, screened-in porches, and how to pursue a writing life against the odds.
Episode Sponsors:
Literary Cleveland – Where writers can explore other voices and discover their own. The Inkubator is Literary Cleveland’s free annual festival for writers and readers. Generate new writing, improve your craft, and advance your career. Register for classes, sign up for our free writing conference, and find your writing community at LitCleveland.org.
Mac’s Backs – A proud Cleveland indie bookstore with three floors for browsing, great online service, and chocolate milkshakes right next door. Find your next great read and shop online at macsbacks.com.
Titles Mentioned in this Episode:
Magic Season, by Wade Rouse
The Recipe Box: A Novel, by Viola Shipman
Here’s the trailer for Terms of Endearment.
Follow Wade Rouse:
Instagram: @authorwaderouse and @viola_shipman
Twitter: @waderouse and @viola_shipman
Facebook: @authorwaderouse and @authorviolashipman
YouTube: @WadeRouse
waderouse.com and violashipman.com
Photo Credit: Ivan Hundric Photography
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Sarah Manguso is the author of nine books, most recently the novel LIARS.
Her work’s been recognized by an American Academy of Arts and Letters Literature Award, a Guggenheim Fellowship, and the Rome Prize, and her writing has been translated into thirteen languages. On today’s show, Sarah and Annmarie discuss marriage and how our best intentions often crumble in the face of gender roles, misogyny, the patriarchy, and myriad forces so much larger than we are.
Episode Sponsors:
McNally Jackson – Independent booksellers with locations in Nolita, Williamsburg, Seaport, Rockefeller, and Downtown Brooklyn. To find your next great read, drop by or shop online at www.mcnallyjackson.com
Annabelle’s Book Club LA – A highly curated collection of books and gifts with a modern point of view. Founded by 17-year-old Annabelle Chang, this YA-focused bookstore aims to spark imagination, inspire connection, and bring joy to people of all ages. Stop or find us online at annabellesbookclubla.com.
Stories Mentioned in this Episode:
Liars, by Sarah Manguso
Learn more about Amber Heard and Gabby Petito.
Creep, by Myriam Gurba
Follow Sarah Manguso:
sarahmanguso.com
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Rachelle Bergstein is a lifestyle writer, author and editor. Her latest book is The Genius of Judy: How Judy Blume Rewrote Childhood For All of Us. On today’s show, Annmarie and Rachelle discuss taboo topics from childhood – periods! bras! masturbation! – and how Judy Blume books demystified all of them.
Episode Sponsors:
McNally Jackson – Independent booksellers with locations in Nolita, Williamsburg, Seaport, Rockefeller, and Downtown Brooklyn. To find your next great read, drop by or shop online at www.mcnallyjackson.com
Women & Children First – A bookstore that understands the transformative power of literature. As intersectional trans-inclusive feminists, we believe books are tools for liberation. Since 1979, we’ve celebrated and amplified under-represented voices. We offer a welcoming space for learning, dialogue, and reflection, and strive toward a feminist, equitable workplace. Come visit our Chicago location or shop online at womenandchildrenfirst.com.
Judy Blume Titles Mentioned in this Episode:
Deenie
Are You There God? It’s Me, Margaret.
Forever…
Then Again, Maybe I Won’t
Blubber
Otherwise Known as Sheila the Great
It's Not the End of the World
Other Titles Mentioned:
The Genius of Judy: How Judy Blume Rewrote Childhood For All of Us, by Rachelle Bergstein
Monsters: A Fan’s Dilemma, by Claire Dederer
Biography of X, by Catherine Lacey
The Recovering: Intoxication and Its Aftermath, by Leslie Jamison
Here’s some 90s music to leave you with: Under the Bridge, by Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Follow Rachelle Bergstein:
Twitter: @RaBergstein
Instagram: @rachellewb
rachellebergstein.com
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Emma Copley Eisenberg is a queer writer in Philadelphia, where she co-founded Blue Stoop, a community hub for the literary arts. Her latest book is HOUSEMATES which we talk about today. On today’s show, Emma and Annmarie discuss queer aunties, the magic of road trips, and whether art can actually save our lives.
Episode Sponsors:
The Head & The Hand – A nonprofit independent publisher and community bookstore based in the Kensington/Fishtown neighborhood of Philadelphia, where we’re committed to serving as a launchpad for the next generation of local writers. We strive to create innovative relationships between authors and their audiences, and we publish and stock writing with the power to both entertain and spark change. Come visit or find us online at theheadandthehand.com.
Women & Children First – A bookstore that understands the transformative power of literature. As intersectional trans-inclusive feminists, we believe books are tools for liberation. Since 1979, we’ve celebrated and amplified under-represented voices. We offer a welcoming space for learning, dialogue, and reflection, and strive toward a feminist, equitable workplace. Come visit our Chicago location or shop online at womenandchildrenfirst.com.
Titles Mentioned in this Episode:
Housemates, by Emma Copley Eisenberg
The Third Rainbow Girl: The Long Life of a Double Murder in Appalachia, by Emma Copley Eisenberg
Nicotine, by Nell Zinks
The Girls of Slender Means, Murial Spark
All This Could Be Different, by Sarah Thankham Mathews
Sophie's Choice, by William Styron
Little Women, by Louisa May Alcott
A Grace Paley Reader: Stories, Essays, and Poetry
Blue Stoop, a home for Philly writers
Learn more about Emma Goldman’s ice cream parlor here
Jordan Kisner podcast Thresholds
Follow Emma Copley Eisenberg:
Twitter: @frumpenberg
Instagram: @frumpenberg
emmacopleyeisenberg.com
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R.O. Kwon is the author of the nationally bestselling novel The Incendiaries, which was named a best book of the year by more than forty publications. On today’s show, Annmarie and R.O. discuss her new book, Exhibit, an exhilarating novel that’s been called “the sexiest book of the year.” They also talk about photography, the torture and timelessness of ballet, and what it means for women to put voice to their desires both in and out of the bedroom.
Episode Sponsors:
Duende District – We make tiny bookstores for & by people of color— where all are welcome. What you'll find at each Duende District is a lovingly curated selection of new & used adult & children's books by authors of color in English & Spanish. Each boutique partnership offers a uniquely crafted & inviting literary space focused on engaging communities of color, while also inviting all people to participate in the experience. Visit our locations in Albuquerque & Brooklyn, or find us online at duendedistrict.com.
Loyalty Bookstores – A Black, Asian, and Queer owned bookstore, which aims to be the Mid-Atlantic’s neighborhood spot for books, gifts, and programming. At Loyalty, we highlight the diverse voices and creatives who make our communities great. We work to create an inclusive, welcoming environment because, well, books are home. Visit our DC and Silver Spring locations or find us online at loyaltybookstores.com.
Yu and Me Books – A bookstore / café / and bar that showcases strong, diverse voices, with a focus on immigrant stories, in a space where we can dream together, strive for change, and push systems closer to justice. Come to our NYC location to sip, read, and share amazing conversations, or find us online at yuandmebooks.com.
Titles Mentioned in this Episode:
Exhibit, by R.O. Kwon
The Incendiaries, by R.O. Kwon
Kink: Stories, edited by Garth Greenwell and R.O. Kwon
Small Rain, by Garth Greenwell
Follow R.O. Kwon:
Twitter: @rokwon
Instagram: @ro.kwon
ro-kwon.com
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Nicola Yoon is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of Instructions for Dancing, Everything, Everything, and The Sun Is Also a Star, and she was the first Black woman to hit #1 on the New York Times Young Adult bestseller list. On today’s show, Nicola and Annmarie discuss Nicola’s new adult book, One of Our Kind, “a terrifying and thought-provoking look at what it means to be truly free in America.” They also talk about Black joy, pursuing dreams, and also why it’s totally fine when your kids want to dye their hair blue.
Episode Sponsors:
Annabelle’s Book Club LA – A highly curated collection of books and gifts with a modern point of view. Founded by 17-year-old Annabelle Chang, this YA-focused bookstore aims to spark imagination, inspire connection, and bring joy to people of all ages. Stop or find us online at annabellesbookclubla.com.
Rep Club – A bookshop and creative space curated by Blackness in Los Angeles, California. Named one of Issa Rae's "favorite places in Los Angeles," this Black, queer, and woman-owned space hosts bookish events and can help you find your next 5-star read. Wherever you are, shop online at rep.club. For a limited time, listeners can get 10% off your next read with code WILD at checkout!
Books by Nicola Yoon:
Everything, Everything
The Sun Is Also a Star
Instructions for Dancing
One of Our Kind
Blackout, by Nicola Yoon, Angie Thomas, Ashley Woodfolk, Dhonielle Clayton, Tiffany D. Jackson, and Nic Stone
Whiteout, by Dhonielle Clayton, Tiffany D. Jackson, Nic Stone, Angie Thomas, Ashley Woodfolk, and Nicola Yoon
If you’re looking for a throwback karaoke song, here’s Making Love Out of Nothing at All, by Air Supply.
Follow Nicola Yoon:
Facebook: NicolaYoonWriter
Twitter: @NicolaYoon
Instagram: @nicolayoon
nicolayoon.com
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Jacquelyn Mitchard is the best-selling author of 23 books, including A Very Inconvenient Scandal, The Good Son, and The Deep End of the Ocean, which was the inaugural selection for Oprah Winfrey’s book club. In today’s episode, Jacquelyn and Annmarie talk about the opportunities and challenges of balancing motherhood and the writing life, finding character names in cemeteries, and how no story is ever truly complete until the reader is holding the author’s hand.
Episode Sponsors:
Aesop’s Fable – An independent bookshop in Holliston, Massachusetts with a focus on inspiring creativity and growth in readers of all ages. Stop by or shop online at aesopsfable.com.
Brewster Book Store – A full-service independent shop filled to the brim with books, toys, games, greeting cards, and gifts. We’ve been matching readers with books for over 40 years, and we’re proud of our collection of Cape Cod books, our extensive children's section, and our wide selection of books for readers of all tastes and ages. We believe books have the power to change lives. Come in or shop online at brewsterbookstore.com.
A Small Selection of Books by Jacquelyn Mitchard:
A Very Inconvenient Scandal
The Deep End of the Ocean
The Good Son
A Theory of Relativity
Films Mentioned in this Episode:
Wuthering Heights – Here’s a clip from the 1992 version starring Ralph Fiennes and Juliette Binoche.
Here’s a trailer for North by Northwest.
Here’s a clip from the film Glory.
Here’s the trailer for American Fiction.
Finally, if you’re a writer and want to journey with Jacquelyn Mitchard along the Mediterranean Sea this fall, learn more HERE.
Follow Jacquelyn Mitchard:
Facebook: jacquelyn.mitchard
Twitter: @JackieMitchard
Instagram: @jacquelynmitchard
Goodreads: jacquelyn_mitchard
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Alua Arthur is the most visible and active death doula working in America today. She’s a recovering attorney and the founder of Going with Grace, a death doula training and end-of-life planning organization. Her TED Talk titled, “Why Thinking About Death Helps You Live a Better Life,” has over 1.5 million views. In today’s episode, Annmarie and Alua discuss Briefly Perfectly Human, Alua’s life-changing, soul-gathering memoir. They also discuss how talking about death can help all of us live better lives.
Episode Sponsors:
Octavia’s Bookshelf – An independent bookstore in Pasadena, California where readers of all walks of life can enjoy our store full of books written by BIPOC writers. Octavia’s Bookshelf is a place to find your new BFF inside a book, a space to find community, enjoy a cup of coffee, read, relax, find unique and specially curated products from artisans from around the world and in our neighborhood. Stop by or shop online at octaviasbookshelf.com.
Rep Club – A bookshop and creative space curated by Blackness in Los Angeles, California. Named one of Issa Rae's "favorite places in Los Angeles," this Black, queer, and woman-owned space hosts bookish events and can help you find your next 5-star read. Wherever you are, shop online at rep.club. For a limited time, listeners can get 10% off your next read with code WILD at checkout!
Titles Discussed in this Episode:
Briefly Perfectly Human, by Alua Arthur
Middlesex, by Jeffrey Eugenides
Conscious Grieving, by Claire Bidwell Smith
Love on the Scottish Spring Isle, by Beatrice Bradshaw
Fathers and Sons, by Howard Cunnell
Follow Alua Arthur:
Instagram: @going_with_grace
Twitter: @goinggracefully
Facebook: @goingwgrace
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Today, we have something new. This past spring, Annmarie gathered with eight local writers to try a podcasting project. Over the course of six weeks together, they wrote side-by-side, saying YES to whatever stories arose. About friendship and loss, dreams and possibility, parents and belief. These sessions were sometimes tearful and painful, but they were always beautiful. And powerful. Because something important happens when we create in community. In this episode, we share eight short essays. Some folks have been writing for decades. Others are just getting started. All of them have stories to tell.
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Literary Cleveland – Developing writers, amplifying voices, and transforming our community through storytelling. You can explore other voices and discover your own. Search for classes and find your creative community at litcleveland.org.
Mac’s Backs – A proud Cleveland indie bookstore with three floors for browsing, great online service, and chocolate milkshakes right next door. Find your next great read and shop online at macsbacks.com.
Writers Showcased in this Episode:
Alvis Pettker
Tamar Cloyd
Jackie Sliva
T. Lee Peters
Deborah Taddeo
Emily Jaster
L.P.
Amy Alspach
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Crystal Wilkinson is the award-winning author of several books including Praisesong for the Kitchen Ghosts: Stories and Recipes from Five Generations of Black Country Cooks. She was Poet Laureate of Kentucky from 2021 to 2023, and currently teaches creative writing at the University of Kentucky where she is a Bush-Holbrook Endowed Professor. In today’s episode, Crystal and Annmarie discuss kitchen ghosts, family recipes – including how biscuits need to “kiss,” and the blessings and self-awareness we find in the stories of our ancestors.
Episode Sponsor:
Charis Books and More – An independent feminist bookstore. Charis fosters sustainable feminist communities, works for social justice, and encourages the expression of diverse and marginalized voices. When you spend your money or your time at Charis Books and More, you are investing in the radical belief that multi-racial organizing and movement- building centered in a Southern, queer, feminist, anti-racist practice can
shift culture and change lives and we appreciate your support. Stop by our
Decatur, Georgia store or find us online at charisbooksandmore.com.
BEM | books and more – BEM is a bookstore specializing in food literature of the African Diaspora, inspired by a line of dynamic and brilliant Black women who season with love and spin tales with the best of them. Honoring that legacy and those of Black folks and families across time and place is at the heart of what they do. Food opens a door to life, to sustenance, to love, to politics, and BEM | books and more is thrilled to welcome you into their community to explore it all together. Discover more online at bembrooklyn.com or on their Instagram @bembrooklyn.
Wild Precious Life listeners receive 10% off their orders at BEM | books and more. Just type in the code WILDPRECIOUSLIFE (all one word) when you check out.
Titles Discussed in this Episode:
Praisesong for the Kitchen Ghosts: Stories and Recipes from Five Generations of Black Country Cooks, by Crystal Wilkinson
Perfect Black, by Crystal Wilkinson
The Birds of Opulence, by Crystal Wilkinson
Other conversations with Crystal Wilkinson:
PRAISESONG FOR THE KITCHEN GHOSTS: STORIES AND RECIPES FROM FIVE GENERATIONS OF BLACK COUNTRY COOKS
PERFECT BLACK: CRYSTAL WILKINSON IN CONVERSATION WITH KIESE LAYMON
BREATH BETTER SPENT: LIVING BLACK GIRLHOOD--DAMARIS B. HILL IN CONVERSATION WITH CRYSTAL WILKINSON
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Christina Cooke was born in Jamaica and is now a Canadian citizen who lives and writes in New York City. BROUGHTUPSY is her debut novel. In today’s episode, Annmarie and Christina discuss cultural upbringings, the cruelty of children, the joys of weightlifting, and how all humans are complex and contradictory and deserving of love.
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Zora’s Den – Dedicated to empowering the lives of Black women writers. At Zora’s Den, we host a monthly reading series, conduct workshops, and invite writers to share their work-in-progress for feedback and constructive criticism. Our hope is to build a sisterhood of writers at every level of accomplishment and to strengthen the voices of the unheard and unacknowledged. If you’re a Black woman writer, you’re welcome to join us. Learn more at zorasden.com.
Brain Lair Books – A black-owned, woman-owned children's bookstore located in South Bend, Indiana. At Brain Lair, we partner with local schools and universities to help build an inclusive, welcoming community. We specialize in juvenile and young adult literature written by and for Black, Indigenous, People of Color, LGBTQIA+, and Disabled communities, as well as adult nonfiction about ending white supremacy, promoting anti-racism, and becoming a social activist. We can help you find the books you need. Drop by or browse online at brainlairbooks.com.
Titles Discussed in this Episode:
BROUGHTUPSY, by Christina Cooke
IMAGINARY HOMELANDS, by Salman Rushdie
WHITE TEETH, by Zadie Smith
It’s All Coming Back to Me Now, by Celine Dion.
Learn more about Louise Bennett, a Jamaican folklorist and poet.
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Sarah Kain Gutowski is the author of Fabulous Beast and along with interdisciplinary artist Meredith Starr, she’s co-creator of Every Second Feels Like Theft, a conversation in cyanotypes and poems, and It's All Too Much, a limited edition podcast and art project. She’s out now with a new book of narrative poetry, The Familiar. In today’s episode, Sarah and Annmarie discuss the ache of literary ambition, how parenthood divides us from ourselves, and how Moonstruck is one of the best movies of all time.
Episode Sponsor:
Zora’s Den – Dedicated to empowering the lives of Black women writers. At Zora’s Den, we host a monthly reading series, conduct workshops, and invite writers to share their work-in-progress for feedback and constructive criticism. Our hope is to build a sisterhood of writers at every level of accomplishment and to strengthen the voices of the unheard and unacknowledged. If you’re a Black woman writer, you’re welcome to join us. Learn more at zorasden.com.
Split Rock Books – A locally-owned, independently-minded neighborhood bookstore located in the heart of the Hudson Valley. Split Rock carries a curated selection of new books with a focus on literary fiction and non-fiction, small presses, local interest, and children's books. We host a variety of family programming, book clubs, readings, signings and discussions. And we’re located steps from the Cold Spring train station, which is just over an hour from New York City. Learn more or shop online at splitrockbks.com.
Titles Discussed in this Episode:
The Familiar, by Sarah Kain Gutowski
Fabulous Beast, by Sarah Kain Gutowski
Kate Bush's album 50 Words for Snow
One of Annmarie and Sarah’s favorite scenes from the movie Moonstruck.
Hills Like White Elephants, a short story by Ernest Hemingway.
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Website: https://www.sarahkaingutowski.com
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Originally from Argentina, Cecilia Gentili came to the U.S. pursuing a safer life as a transgender woman. She lived undocumented for 10 years. After surviving arrests and an immigration detention, she accessed recovery services and won asylum. Cecilia founded Transgender Equity Consulting, which works to ensure all people living on the margins receive dignity and respect. In today’s episode, Annmarie and Cecilia talk about growing up on the margins, emigrating to the United States, and how to love and forgive people who struggle to offer dignity or understanding in return.
Cecilia Gentili passed away on Feb. 6, 2024. She was 52 years old.
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The Word Is Change – A neighborhood bookstore in Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn, selling used and new books, hosting readings and meetings, buying books for resale, and supporting visual artists. Come into the store and find the perfect book you were looking for, or the perfect book you didn’t even know you were looking for. And shop online at thewordischange.com.
Titles Discussed in this Episode:
FALTAS, by Cecilia Gentili
Here are links to some of Cecilia’s favorite songs:
Isabel Pantoja singing “Abrásame Muy Fuerte,” (or Hug Me Really Hard.
Gilda singing “No me Arrepiento de este Amor,” (or I Don't Regret This Love).
Laura Branigan singing “Gloria.”
Here’s a clip from Cecilia Gentili appearing as Ms. Orlando in POSE.
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Leslie Jamison has written two essay collections, The Empathy Exams and Make It Scream, Make It Burn. She also gained prominence for her critical memoir, The Recovering: Intoxication and Its Aftermath. She’s out now with a new book, Splinters, about raising a child during the end of a relationship and the beginning of the pandemic. In today’s episode, Annmarie and Leslie talk about motherhood and how it’s both a mad transformative mystery and a boring daily slog. It’s both the Cheerios ground into the carpet and the love etched into your heart.
Episode Sponsors:
Greenlight Bookstore – Through knowledgeable staff, curated book selection, community partnerships, and a robust e-commerce website, Greenlight combines the best traditions of the neighborhood bookstore with a forward-looking sensibility, and welcomes readers of every kind to the heart of Brooklyn. Learn more and shop online at greenlightbookstore.com.
Flourish After Forty – A women’s retreat cultivating growth and contentment in midlife. Join facilitators Dr. Shannon Sherfey and Holly Stencil for a weekend of nourishing your body, mind, and spirit. We’ll examine struggles, let go of narratives that do not serve us, and shift our mindset toward blooming in midlife. If you’re looking to step away from stagnation and move into joy and gratitude, check out the Flourish After 40 Women’s Retreat today. Go to tinyurl.com/FlourishAfterForty to learn more.
Titles by Leslie Jamison:
SPLINTERS: ANOTHER KIND OF LOVE STORY
THE EMPATHY EXAMS
MAKE IT SCREAM, MAKE IT BURN
THE RECOVERING: INTOXICATION AND ITS AFTERMATH
THE GIN CLOSET: A NOVEL
Other Titles and Authors Discussed in this Episode:
Easy Beauty, by Chloé Cooper Jones
Flight, by Lynn Steger Strong
Here’s a trailer for the latest season of Love Island.
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Twitter: @lsjamison
www.lesliejamison.com
Photo credit: Beowulf Sheehan
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