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Tonight, Carol the Carol, will be interviewing Judy Kelly, who is a CSAT, and has found it extremely helpful to use the Help. Her. Heal. book to assist addicts in helping their partners heal. She has made the techniques her own and has the men do additional activities to reinforce the need for on-going partner sensitive activites and shame resilience. She even has added a 5th type of communication style that she feels helps the addict stay strong and keeps them out of the shame spiral which ultimately helps the couple heal.