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    Dr. Jonathan W. White is an endowed professor in the School of Civic Leadership at the University of Texas at Austin. He is the author or editor of more than 17 books covering various topics, including civil liberties during the Civil War, the USS Monitor and the Battle of Hampton Roads, the presidential election of 1864, and what Abraham Lincoln and soldiers dreamt about.

    Among his awards are the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia’s Outstanding Faculty Award (2019), CNU’s Alumni Society Award for Teaching and Mentoring (2016), the Abraham Lincoln Institute Book Prize (2015), and the University of Maryland Alumni Excellence Award in Research (2024).

    His recent books include A House Built By Slaves: African American Visitors to the Lincoln White House (2022), which was co-winner of the Gilder Lehrman Lincoln Prize (with Jon Meacham); Shipwrecked: A True Civil War Story of Mutinies, Jailbreaks, Blockade-Running, and the Slave Trade (2023); Final Resting Places: Reflections on the Meaning of Civil War Graves (2023); and an exciting new children’s book, My Day with Abe Lincoln (2024).

    Quotes From This Episode

    “Lincoln understood you start with something that everyone can agree on.”“He believed that persuasiveness is the most important thing for a leader.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Book: Lincoln Home (Images of America)

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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    Adam Tarnow is a leadership development specialist, keynote speaker, and author of The Fog of Work. With a unique blend of humor, humility, and hard-won insight, Adam helps professionals get out of their own way, navigate complexity, and lead with confidence.

    A recovering CPA and former public accountant, Adam now heads up the Leadership Development Practice at PeopleWorks International, where he equips leaders to thrive in today’s fast-paced, people-driven workplaces. He’s spoken to audiences across industries—from manufacturing to professional services to education—and has a gift for making complex leadership ideas simple, practical, and unforgettable.

    He earned his accounting degree from Clemson University and holds a “Ducktorate” from Disney University (yes, it’s real… no, it’s not accredited). He’s been married since 2003, is the proud dad of two teenage boys, and believes any day is better when it starts with coffee and a New York Times crossword puzzle.

    Whether he’s speaking about leadership, communication, optimism, or culture, Adam’s goal is always the same: cut through the noise and help good people become great leaders.

    A Few Quotes From This Episode

    "You are being held accountable for outcomes you know you do not fully control.” “I didn’t need a new job. I needed a new system for handling the inevitable stress that goes with leadership.” “Your story doesn’t have a villain. It just has a valley.”

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    Book: The Fog of Work

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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    Cameron Mofid is a traveler, social entrepreneur, and speaker who became one of the youngest verified people ever to visit all 195 countries in the world by the age of 25. After struggling with obsessive-compulsive disorder for much of his life, Cameron used travel as a form of “real-world exposure therapy,” pushing himself into unfamiliar and uncomfortable environments across the globe. His experiences ultimately inspired him to found Humanity Effect, a nonprofit organization supporting children in Makoko, Nigeria through schools and an orphanage serving hundreds of students. Cameron’s work and story have been featured by Forbes, CNN, People Magazine, and other major media outlets for his message around resilience, uncertainty, gratitude, and service.

    A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

    “She wasn’t dancing because everything was okay. She was dancing because it wasn’t.”“To become best versions of ourselves, we really have to learn to accept and work on all of those things.”

    Resources

    Website - Humanity Effect CNN Article - ‘It was a form of healing’: How traveling to every country helped this American cope with a mental health disorder

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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    Marshall Ganz is a senior lecturer in public policy at the Harvard Kennedy School and one of the leading thinkers on leadership as collective action.

    He began his career as a grassroots organizer during the civil rights era, working with Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee and later with the United Farm Workers, where he helped build organizing capacity among farmworkers. That field experience became the foundation for his lifelong focus on leadership, organizing, and social movements.

    Ganz later transitioned into academia, where he developed frameworks that bridge practice and theory. He is best known for his work on public narrative, organizing strategy, and leadership development through action. His teaching and research emphasize how leaders mobilize others by linking values to action, building relationships, and creating structures that enable collective effort.

    He also played a key role in organizing the grassroots structure of the Barack Obama 2008 presidential campaign, demonstrating how his principles could scale in a national political context.

    His work continues to influence leaders across sectors, including politics, nonprofits, and increasingly, corporate environments.

    A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

    “It’s not enough to have virtuous people. We have to have virtuous institutions.” “Leadership is about accepting responsibility for enabling others to achieve shared purpose under conditions of uncertainty.”

    Resources

    Book: People, Power, Change: Organizing for Democratic Renewal by Ganz Book: Dopamine Nation by Lembke

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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    Dr. Eric Kaufman is a Professor, Extension specialist, and associate head for Virginia Tech’s Department of Agricultural, Leadership, and Community Education. He developed and now coordinates Virginia Tech’s graduate certificate program in Collaborative Community Leadership. He also supports an academic major in Community Leadership and Development, as well as an undergraduate minor in Leadership and Social Change. Eric’s research investigates and promotes collective leadership, with special emphasis on followership, problem solving, and leadership-as-practice. He is a past president of the Association of Leadership Educators (ALE) and a past chair of the International Leadership Association (ILA) Followership Community. His professional recognitions include the Distinguished Agricultural Leadership Educator Award from the American Association for Agricultural Education (AAAE).

    Brian Zimmerman has served as CEO of Cleveland Metroparks since 2010, overseeing more than 25,000 acres of parks, trails, golf courses, and the Cleveland Metroparks Zoo. Under his leadership, the organization has added more than 4,000 acres of protected land, expanded access across six counties, added 60+ miles of trails, and revitalized hundreds of acres of Cleveland lakefront. He has also guided major investments in Cleveland Metroparks Zoo, including nationally recognized animal habitats and conservation initiatives. Zimmerman’s work has earned numerous honors, including the 2021 National Gold Medal Award for Excellence in Park Management and recognition as one of Ohio’s most influential civic leaders.

    A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

    “You cannot control every outcome and you cannot control every person. You have to empower your people to get there.”“If I'm surrounding myself with the right people, and I'm empowering them to be successful, we can accomplish great things together.”“We need to stop thinking about leadership as something individuals do and start seeing it as something communities build together over time.”

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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    Dan Jenkins, Ph.D., is Professor of Leadership & Organizational Studies at the University of Southern Maine. Co-author of The Role of Leadership Educators: Transforming Learning and author of over 75 peer-reviewed publications, his scholarship spans leadership pedagogy, artificial intelligence (AI), followership, critical thinking, and curriculum design. A pioneer in integrating AI into development, training, and education, he develops innovative courses preparing students for digital-age leadership challenges. Dan serves as Co-Founder of the International Leadership Association’s Leadership Education Academy, Associate Editor of the Journal of Leadership Studies, and co-host of The Leadership Educator and Leaders in the Loop podcasts. An award-winning international speaker and facilitator, he engages thousands of leadership educators, scholars, students, and professionals worldwide on innovative teaching approaches and AI integration.

    Gaurav Khanna, Senior Manager, Data Science and Digital Journeys, Cisco Systems, has 25 years of experience in technology and entrepreneurship. During the past five years, he has led efforts to automate business workflows using machine learning and deep learning techniques. His work focuses on using large language models and generative AI to transform how users interact with sales acceleration platforms. Khanna is passionate about demystifying complex subjects and is a frequent speaker on AI/ML topics. He received a BS in physics from Yale and an MS and a PhD in materials science and engineering from Stanford.

    A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

    “We’re beyond the point of innocent wonder about AI.”“How do we align human values with machine learning and generative AI?”

    Resources

    Podcast: Humans in the Loop

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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    Jay Abbasi is a global keynote speaker, TEDx speaker, coach, and former Tesla leader who helps professionals thrive under pressure without burning out. At Tesla, he led national training programs for over 1,000 employees, and has since coached leaders at Google, Amazon, TikTok, Wells Fargo, and many more. He’s been featured in Forbes Founder, Authority Magazine, and Medium, and is the host of the top-rated podcast Unstuck with Jay Abbasi. Blending corporate experience with deep expertise in mindfulness, resilience, and well-being, Jay offers a powerful message: success isn’t about avoiding challenges, but mastering them with clarity, energy, and purpose.

    A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

    “When pressure increases, you need to recharge more, not less.” “Resilience isn’t pushing through. It’s managing your energy so you can show up.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Jay's Website Jay's Podcast - Unstuck with Jay AbbasiJay's Speaking

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

    The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership. Attend The Global Conference in Toronto, October 28-31.

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    Dr. Chris Rehm is passionate about developing leadership capacity from younger ages, rather than waiting until college or adulthood. His early work in schools propelled him into educational administration and consulting, where he gained experience with curricular and organizational alignment, intentional learning outcome design, strategic planning, program evaluation, and technology implementation. Chris is currently Head of School at Wuhan Yangtze International School.

    Joel Wright is a leadership architect, social entrepreneur, innovator, and facilitator of leadership and organizational development. For over 20 years, he has focused on the question: what would the world look like if all people had access to leadership development? He has pursued this mission through the Center for Creative Leadership, the YMCA, Sri Lanka YMCA, Habitat for Humanity, and corporations. While at CCL, he led a team that worked directly with youth through Rotary International, Ravenscroft School, Charlotte Latin School, Milton Hershey School, SMU, and UNC-Chapel Hill. Joel is currently a consultant and the President of the Leadership Forum Community.

    A Few Quotes From This Episode

    “Leadership is a muscle. The earlier you exercise it, the stronger it gets.” “Teachers don’t need another program. They need a different lens.” “Everything can be leader development. But that’s overwhelming unless you simplify it.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    How to Unleash a Billion Leaders: The New Building Blocks for Youth Leader Development by Rehm and WrightExpanding the Leadership Equation - by Ellen Van Velsor and Joel WrightDeveloping a Billion Leaders - by Gergen, Wright, and Rego

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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    Thomas Hill III is the chief executive officer of Kimray, Inc. As the grandson of Kimray's founder, Garman Kimmell, Thomas grew up around the family business and manages the family-owned company with a sense of stewardship and heritage.

    In 1948, Kimray revolutionized pressure regulation in the oil and gas industry by introducing a three-inch pilot-operated back pressure regulator. The company has since grown to be a globally-known manufacturer of a comprehensive line of reliable, smart, and inventive American-made control equipment for safely and efficiently producing oil and gas. Having worked in virtually every department, Thomas has an intimate knowledge of the processes and people involved from start to finish.

    Thomas grew up in a high-performing family, which shaped his belief that people are worth what they can accomplish. This sent Thomas on a long and unfulfilling journey of pursuing success by constantly doing bigger and better things. Life eventually spun out of control, and Thomas hit rock bottom. Unfortunately, this meant Kimray hit rock bottom at the same time.

    Thomas's story does not end there. Through significant pain and loss, he began the long and difficult road of recovery that transformed his life and leadership. Today, Thomas enjoys sharing his story with others who can benefit from the lessons he has learned. He is committed to carrying the message of Recovering Leadership to other "addict leaders" and practicing these principles in his personal life.

    A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

    “Making money is easy. Making money without harming other people is hard.” “I wasn’t a leader. I just needed people to do what I needed them to do.” “The more transparent I am, the more people want to follow.” “Leadership is not about knowing what to do. It is about developing people who know what to do.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Book: Recovering Leadership: Musings of an Addict Leader by Thomas Hill

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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    John Bernatovicz is a husband, father, brother, entrepreneur, author, and lifelong Northeast Ohioan. Over the last 15 years, he has started or been an owner of six business ventures and is the president and founder of Willory, a staffing and consulting firm solely focused on HR and payroll.

    As the president and founder of Willory, John focuses on transforming organizations to meet their full potential. Through Willory, John ensures his clients have the best talent in their HR and payroll department and optimize the technology supporting companies’ number one asset: people. With over 20 years of experience within the payroll and HR niche, John is uniquely qualified to drive Willory into a leadership position within the HR and payroll staffing and consulting space.

    John has focused his working career on understanding the needs of his clients, candidates, and partners. He is not satisfied until he finds what his clients and candidates are looking for. Plus, he thrives on instilling enthusiasm, growth mindsets, and accountability in the Willory team. John strives to win and build successful businesses that go above and beyond the expectations of his clients, candidates, staff members, and competitors. This sets a standard for the firm to provide a high quality of service and build exceptional relationships. Willory has achieved great results, including NorthCoast 99, Weatherhead 100, Crain’s 52, and Inc. 5000.

    A Couple of Quotes From This Episode

    “You’re not going to lose your job because of AI. You’re going to lose your job to someone who uses AI better than you.” “Every single person in the world is a leader. People are paying attention to what you’re doing.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Book: HR Like a Boss by BernatoviczEvents: Disrupt HR

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

    The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

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    Dr. Melisa Buie is a problem solver, author, and operational excellence leader known for making complex systems work better. Her work spans advanced technologies such as lasers and semiconductor equipment, as well as large-scale global manufacturing and business systems.

    Melisa’s career sits at the intersection of engineering innovation and operational performance. She has held key roles with leading organizations in the semiconductor and photonics industries, including Lam Research, Coherent, Applied Materials, and Advanced Energy. As Global Director for Lean Operational Excellence at Coherent, Inc., a $2B global photonics solutions company, she led initiatives that advanced both engineering performance and enterprise-wide transformation. Earlier in her career, she served as a Member of the Technical Staff and Engineering Manager at Applied Materials and Advanced Energy, and as a Research Scientist with Science Applications International Corporation at the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, D.C., where she focused on theoretical laser systems.

    In addition to her industry leadership, Melisa is an author and educator. She wrote Problem Solving for New Engineers: What Every Engineering Manager Wants You to Know in 2017, drawing on her experience bridging industry and academia. She also taught graduate-level courses for nearly a decade at San Jose State University in the Department of Biomedical, Chemical, and Materials Engineering, where she helped develop the next generation of engineering leaders and problem solvers.

    A Few Quotes From This Episode

    “If it’s safe to fail, then it’s safe to learn and grow.” “Experimentation is something that leads to a lot of failure.” “Part of the reason we don’t like failing is because of all the emotions that come with it.” “You’ve got to separate the story you make up about the failure.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Book: Faceplant: Free Yourself From Failure's Funk by Buie and colleaguesBook: Problem Solving for New Engineers: What Every Engineering Manager Wants You to Know by Buie

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

    The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

    About Scott J. Allen

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    Elisa Mallis is currently the Global Vice President of Global Research, Innovation and New Content Creation at the Center for Creative Leadership (CCL®), a top-ranked global provider of executive education. The organization uses research to develop people into better leaders, transforming individuals, teams, organizations, and societies.

    She has over 20 years of experience as a business leader focused on transformational change, human capital strategy, and sales and marketing. She is known for her ability to successfully blend a focus on purpose and values with practical actions and results. Growing up between countries, Greece and the United States, her journey has taken her to work and live in 16 different countries, with the last 17+ years based in Asia, including Beijing, Sydney, and Singapore.

    Dr. Cynthia Cherrey is President and CEO of the International Leadership Association (ILA), a global community committed to increasing quality research, teaching, and leadership practices contributing to the world's common good. As president of a multi-sector and global professional association, she promotes rigor and relevance of leadership at the intersection of theory and practice. Previously, Cynthia was Lecturer in the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs and Vice President for Campus Life at Princeton University.

    A Few Quotes From This Episode

    “Leadership has become more of a team sport.” “The only thing of real importance that leaders do is to create and manage culture.” “Leadership is becoming less about having all the answers and more about being able to say, ‘I don’t know.’” “We need to double down on human connection.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Article: Moving Beyond the Why: 4 Knowledge Shifts for Global Leaders by Mallis and Hardy

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

    The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

    About Scott J. Allen

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    Dr. Joel Rothaizer is a psychologist, executive coach, organizational consultant and leadership development specialist. He’s Board Certified in Organizational & Business Consulting Psychology, and a Master Certified Coach through the International Coaching Federation. His book on leadership, called Clear Impact, has been strongly endorsed by Ken Wilber. The head of Integral Zen calls it the most integral book on leadership he’s ever read.

    A Few Quotes From This Episode

    “Without a practice of reflection, you cannot build leadership capacity. Period. End of story.” "What happens in our sessions has zero meaning unless you’re applying it.”“Do you start your day with an intention of who you want to be?”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Episode #1 - Rethinking The Polarity Map with Dr. Joel RothaizerEpisode #2 - The Wake I Leave with Dr. Joel RothaizerTrey Anastasio - His Story About Drug Court

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

    The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

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    Ronald E. Riggio, Ph. D., is the Henry R. Kravis Professor of Leadership and Organizational Psychology and former director of the Kravis Leadership Institute at Claremont McKenna College. He is the author of more than a dozen books and more than 100 research articles and book chapters on leadership, assessment centers, organizational psychology, and social psychology. He's served on the editorial boards of The Leadership Quarterly, Leadership, Group Dynamics, and Journal of Nonverbal Behavior.

    A Few Quotes From This Episode

    “Social intelligence is knowing how to be and knowing what to do in social situations.”“Emotional intelligence is a subset of social intelligence.”“As leaders go higher in the hierarchy, their listening tends to go down.“In this time of AI, make the human connection.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Blog: Psychology Today

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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    Mark O’Donnell is a highly successful entrepreneur, CEO, and Expert EOS Implementer™. He is the current Visionary and CEO of EOS Worldwide. Named to the 2022 and 2023 Inc. 5000 as one of America’s fastest-growing companies, as well as to the 2022 Inaugural Inc. Power Partner list, EOS Worldwide has helped thousands of entrepreneurs all over the globe get everything they want from their businesses.

    Mark has also served as Head Coach for the company. He has helped more than 100 companies achieve their goals and get what they want from their businesses.

    As a serial entrepreneur, Mark has founded and sold multiple successful businesses. His passion for helping people live their ideal lives led him to his current mission of assisting 1,000,000 people with tools like those found in the Entrepreneurial Operating System® (EOS®).

    Mark is a lifelong learner and an alumnus of Albright College, Northeastern University, and The Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. He lives outside Philadelphia, PA, with his wife, mother-in-law, three children, and his one-hundred-pound dog, Blue.

    A Few Quotes From This Episode

    “What gets measured gets done. What gets measured and reported goes exponential.”“Speaking a common language is part of getting all that human energy rowing in the same direction.”“It’s just a very simple, proven system.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Data: Harness Your Numbers to Go from Uncertain to Unstoppable by O'Donnell & othersPeople: Dare to Build an Intentional Culture by O'Donnell & othersIssues: Remove Friction, Fast Track Your Growth, and Ignite Your Greatness by O'Donnell & others

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

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    Dr. David M. Rosch is an associate professor in agricultural leadership, education, and communications at the University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign, where he teaches leadership theory and studies the impact of leadership development on young people. He has been repeatedly recognized for teaching excellence and received his college’s Teaching Excellence Award. Dave serves as editor of the Journal of Campus Activities Practice and Scholarship and has held numerous leadership roles within the International Leadership Association and related organizations. He has authored more than 50 scholarly works and earned his PhD in higher education from Syracuse University.

    Dr. Daniel M. Jenkins is a professor of leadership and organizational studies at the University of Southern Maine, where he teaches leadership, organizational theory, and research methods. He is co-author of The Role of Leadership Educators: Transforming Learning and has published more than 50 peer-reviewed works on leadership education and development. An award-winning international speaker and facilitator, Dan has engaged thousands on topics including leadership pedagogy, followership, and artificial intelligence. He serves in multiple leadership roles within the International Leadership Association and related professional organizations, and earned his doctorate from the University of South Florida.

    A Few Quotes From This Episode

    “There’s no stable track in leader development because people are complex.”“We don’t need to talk about whether leadership matters. We need to understand how.”“Instructional strategies are the vehicle through which we facilitate leadership learning.”“Know why you are selecting the tools you are using.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Book: Moving the Needle: What We Know (and Don’t Know) About Developing Leaders by Rosch, Allen, and Jenkins

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

    The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

    About Scott J. Allen

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    My Approach to Hosting

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    Dr. Barbara Kellerman is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. She was the Founding Executive Director of the Center, and a member of the Kennedy School faculty for over twenty years. Kellerman has held professorships at Fordham, Tufts, Fairleigh Dickinson, George Washington, Christopher Newport, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. She also served as Director of the Center for the Advanced Study of Leadership at the University of Maryland.

    Kellerman received her B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College, and her M.A. M.Phil., and Ph.D. (in Political Science) degrees from Yale University. She was awarded a Danforth Fellowship and three Fulbright fellowships. At Uppsala (1996-97), she held the Fulbright Chair in American Studies. Kellerman was cofounder of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and is author and editor of many books. Kellerman has also appeared on media outlets such as CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Reuters, and BBC, and has contributed articles and reviews to the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Harvard Business Review.

    From 2015 to 2023, she was listed by Global Gurus as among the “World’s Top 30 Management Professionals.”

    A Few Quotes From This Episode

    “He is an inveterate bad boy who is not content unless he is stirring the pot.”“Follower is the only antonym of leader we have. And sometimes followers become leaders.”“The importance of context is as real in politics as it is in organizational life.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Barbara's BlogBook: Leader's Who Lust by KellermanBook: Bad Leadership by KellermanBook: The End of Leadership by Kellerman

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

    The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

    About Scott J. Allen

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    My Approach to Hosting

    The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective. Nothing can replace your reflection, research, and exploration of the topic.


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    Ira Chaleff is an author, speaker, and executive coach in the greater Washington, DC, area. His extensive experience with the US federal government includes directing and chairing the nonpartisan Congressional Management Foundation, where he is now Chair Emeritus.

    Ira co-authored the original handbook for newly elected Members of Congress, now in its fifteenth edition, and has facilitated over a hundred retreats for congressional offices. He has led and participated in Democracy strengthening programs in Asia and West Africa and consulted for Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty in Eastern Europe.

    He has been an adjunct faculty member at the Federal Executive Institute and a visiting leadership scholar at Churchill College, Cambridge University in England. Ira served two terms on the Board of Directors of the International Leadership Association and is the founder of its Followership Community.

    Ira speaks on courageous followership and intelligent disobedience at a wide variety of institutions, including the US Department of State, the US Naval Academy, the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, the European Commission of the EU, and many others.

    Quotes From This Episode

    “Sometimes it’s courageous to conform. Discernment matters as much as courage.”“Followers are as responsible for bringing out the best in leaders as leaders are for bringing out the best in followers.”“If followership education only teaches compliance, should we be surprised when adults conform to poor leadership?”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Book: The Courageous Follower by ChaleffBook: Intelligent Disobedience by ChaleffBook: To Stop a Tyrant: The Power of Political Followers by Chaleff

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

    The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

    About Scott J. Allen

    WebsiteWeekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

    My Approach to Hosting

    The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective.


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    Paul Crick is grounded in, and informed by, the principles, wisdom and practice of the martial art of Aikido, which he applies as a powerful discipline for mastering his craft as a seasoned, transformational coach. Through this lens, he supports leaders and teams to carve out their own distinctive path to success.

    With over two decades of hard-earned personal and professional experience working internationally as a consultant and coach, Paul specialises in enabling clients to navigate uncertainty and periods of intense transition and growth, amplifying clarity, confidence and impact at moments that matter most.

    Developing leaders and teams from the inside out, and helping people work together more effectively at scale, are areas where he consistently excels.

    Paul’s international corporate consulting experience spans the private, public and not-for-profit sectors. He has worked with senior leaders on organisational transformation programmes across Fortune 500 and FTSE 250 companies, public sector institutions and voluntary organisations.

    Paul’s coaching philosophy is grounded in GRACE, providing a confidential, judgement-free space in which individuals and teams can explore, think and grow.

    As an accredited coach, he blends an eclectic mix of evidence-based tools and practical psychology to support lasting transformational change.

    Quotes From Developing Leaders and Leadership

    “If you’re not grounded in your body, if you haven’t got that alignment between mind, body, and your physiology, then it becomes difficult to create and stand up for something.”“Acceptance is facing up to the reality of what’s coming at you and figuring out how to redirect that energy in a way that restores harmony.”“Find the practice that works for you. Grounding can look very different for different people.”“When your actions, presence, and values align, that’s coherence.”

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Newsletter: GRACEWorks on SubstackPaul's Media KitFree Masterclass: GRACE Under PressureAudio: 5-Minute Clip on the 'G' of the GRACE Framework

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

    The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

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    Peter Weiss is a leadership mentor, former CEO, and founder of MindKaizen. He works with senior leaders operating under high pressure and complexity, helping them strengthen their inner operating system so they can meet today’s demands with clarity and stability. His work focuses on staying grounded under pressure, acting in line with personal values, and protecting the relationships that matter most.

    Originally from Germany, and with a background in bioengineering and an MBA, Peter spent decades leading and transforming organizations across Asia. He founded and led the Kaizen Institute Thailand and later turned around and successfully sold a manufacturing business.

    Peter is the creator of the ShinKaizen program, which blends ancient contemplative disciplines with applied neuroscience to develop the inner skills required for whole and effective leadership. He lives on a self-sufficient homestead in rural Thailand and works globally with executives, founders, and leadership teams.

    A Quote This Episode

    “Many leaders believe Kaizen is something you delegate. That belief is the problem. Tools never changed a culture. What changes culture is how leaders show up when things get tough."

    Resources Mentioned in This Episode

    Book: Well-Being and Personal Growth by Bruno A. Cayoun Book: The Happiness Hypothesis by Jonathan Haidt

    About The International Leadership Association (ILA)

    The ILA was created in 1999 to bring together professionals interested in studying, practicing, and teaching leadership.

    About Scott J. Allen

    WebsiteWeekly Newsletter: Practical Wisdom for Leaders

    My Approach to Hosting

    The views of my guests do not constitute "truth." Nor do they reflect my personal views in some instances. However, they are views to consider, and I hope they help you clarify your perspective.


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