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In this thought-provoking episode of Redefining Society & Technology, I sit down with Jeremy Lasman to question the most overlooked gadget in the human-tech equation: our own mind. We ask ā if we keep updating our devices, why donāt we update the inner operating system that powers our thoughts, creativity, and connection to the world?
Jeremy, a former SpaceX technologist turned philosopher-inventor, shares his journey from corporate IT to what he calls his āsoulās workā: challenging the legacy software running our lives ā fear-based, outdated models of thinking ā with something he calls āImagination Technology.ā Itās not metaphorical. Itās a real framework. And yes, it sounds wild ā but it also makes a lot of sense.
We touch on everything from open-source thinking to quantum consciousness, from the speed of technological evolution to the bottlenecks of our cultural structures like education and societal expectations. At the center is a call to action: we need to stop treating passion as a luxury and instead recognize it as the fuel for personal and collective evolution.
Together, we reflect on how society tends to silo disciplines, discourage curiosity, and cling to binary thinking in a world that demands fluidity. Jeremy argues that redefining society begins with redefining the self ā tearing down internal walls, embracing timelessness, and running life not on fear, but on imagination.
Is this transhumanism? Is it spiritual philosophy dressed up in tech language? Maybe. But itās also deeply human ā and urgent. Because in a world where AI and tech evolve by the day, we canāt afford to be running on emotional floppy disks.
So hereās the challenge: what if the next big upgrade isnāt an app, a device, or even a new piece of hardware ā but a reprogramming of how we see ourselves?
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The Future Is a Place We Visit, But Never Stay
May 9, 2025
A Post-RSAC 2025 Reflection on the Kinda Funny and Pretty Weird Ways Society, Technology, and Cybersecurity Intersect, Interact, and Often Simply Ignore Each Other.By Marco Ciappelli | Musing on Society and Technology
Here we are ā once again, back from RSAC. Back from the future. Or at least the version of the future that fits inside a conference badge, a branded tote bag, and a hotel bill that makes you wonder if your wallet just got hacked.
San Francisco is still buzzing with innovation ā or at least thatās what the hundreds of self-driving cars swarming the city would have you believe. Itās hard to feel like youāre floating into a Jetsons-style future when your shuttle ride is bouncing through potholes that feel more 1984 than 2049.
I have to admit, thereās something oddly poetic about hosting a massive cybersecurity event in a city where most attendees would probably rather not be ā and yet, here we are. Not for the scenery. Not for the affordability. But because, somehow, for a few intense days, this becomes the place where the future lives.
And yes, it sometimes looks like a carnival. There are goats. There are puppies. There are LED-lit booths that could double as rave stages. Is this how cybersecurity sells the feeling of safety now? Warm fuzzies and swag youāll never use? Iām not sure.
But again: here we are.
Thereās a certain beauty in it. Even the ridiculous bits. Especially the ridiculous bits.
Personally, Iām grateful for my press badge ā itās not just a backstage pass; itās a magical talisman that wards off the pitch-slingers. The power of not having a budget is strong with this one.
But letās set aside the Frankensteins in the expo hall for a moment.
Because underneath the spectacle ā behind the snacks, the popcorns, the scanners and the sales demos ā there is something deeply valuable happening. Something that matters to me. Something that has kept me coming back, year after year, not for the products but for the people. Not for the tech, but for the stories.
What RSAC Conference gives us ā what all good conferences give us ā is a window. A quick glimpse through the curtain at what might be.
And sometimes, if youāre lucky and paying attention, that glimpse stays with you long after the lights go down.
We have quantum startups talking about cryptographic agility while schools are still banning phones. We have generative AI writing software ā code that writes code ā while lawmakers print bills that read like they were faxed in from 1992. We have cybersecurity vendors pitching zero trust to rooms full of people still clinging to the fantasy of perimeter defense ā not just in networks, but in their thinking.
Weāre trying to build the future on top of a mindset that refuses to update.
Thatās the real threat. Not AI and quantum. Not ransomware. Not the next zero-day.
Itās the human operating system. It hasnāt been patched in a while.
And so I ask myself ā what are these conferences for, really?
Because yes, of course, they matter.
Of course I believe in them ā otherwise I wouldnāt be there, recording stories, chasing conversations, sharing a couch and a mic with whoever is bold enough to speak not just about how we fix things, but why we should care at all.
But Iām also starting to believe that unless we do something more ā unless we act on what we learn, build on what we imagine, challenge what we assume ā these gatherings will become time capsules. Beautiful, well-produced, highly caffeinated, blinking, noisy time capsules.
We donāt need more predictions. We need more decisions.
One of the most compelling conversations I had wasnāt about tech at all. It was about behavior. Human behavior.
Dr. Jason Nurse reminded us that most people are not just confused by cybersecurity ā theyāre afraid of it.
Theyāre tired.
Theyāre overwhelmed.
And in their confusion, they become unpredictable. Vulnerable.
Not because they donāt care ā but because we havenāt built a system that makes it easy to care.
Thatās a design flaw.
Elsewhere, I heard the term āAI security debt.ā That one stayed with me.
Because itās not just technical debt anymore. Itās existential.
We are creating systems that evolve faster than our ability to understand them ā and weāre doing it with the same blind trust we used to install browser toolbars in the ā90s.
āSure, it seems useful. Click accept.ā
Weāve never needed collective wisdom more than we do right now.
And yet, most of what we build is designed for speed, not wisdom.
So what do we do?
We pause. We reflect. We resist the urge to just āmove onā to the next conference, the next buzzword, the next promised fix.
Because the real value of RSAC isnāt in the badge or the swag or the keynotes.
Itās in the aftershock.
Itās in what we carry forward, what we refuse to forget, what we dare to question even when the conference is over, the blinking booths vanish, the future packs up early, and the lanyards go into the drawer of forgotten epiphanies ā right next to the stress balls, the branded socks and the beautiful prize that you didn't win.
Weāll be in Barcelona soon. Then London. Then Vegas.
Weāll gather again. Weāll talk again. But maybe ā just maybe ā we can start to shift the story.
From visiting the futureā¦ To staying a while.
Letās build something we donāt want to walk away from.
And now, ladies and gentlemenā¦ the show is over.
The lights dim, the music fades, and the future exits stage left...
Until we meet again.
āMarco
Resources
Read first newsletter about RSAC 2025 I wrote last week " Securing Our Future Without Leaving Half Our Minds in the Past" https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/securing-our-future-without-leaving-half-minds-past-marco-ciappelli-cry1c/
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During RSAC Conference 2025, Andrew Carney, Program Manager at DARPA, and (remotely via video) Dr. Kathleen Fisher, Professor at Tufts University and Program Manager for the AI Cyber Challenge (AIxCC), guide attendees through an immersive experience called Northbridgeāa fictional city designed to showcase the critical role of AI in securing infrastructure through the DARPA-led AI Cyber Challenge.
Inside Northbridge: The Stakes Are Real
Northbridge simulates the future of cybersecurity, blending AI, infrastructure, and human collaboration. Itās not just a walkthrough ā itās a call to action. Through simulated attacks on water systems, healthcare networks, and cyber operations, visitors witness firsthand the tangible impacts of vulnerabilities in critical systems. Dr. Fisher emphasizes that the AI Cyber Challenge isnāt theoretical: the vulnerabilities competitors find and fix directly apply to real open-source software relied on by society today.
The AI Cyber Challenge: Pairing Generative AI with Cyber Reasoning
The AI Cyber Challenge (AIxCC) invites teams from universities, small businesses, and consortiums to create cyber reasoning systems capable of autonomously identifying and fixing vulnerabilities. Leveraging leading foundation models from Anthropic, Google, Microsoft, and OpenAI, the teams operate with tight constraintsāworking with limited time, compute, and LLM creditsāto uncover and patch vulnerabilities at scale. Remarkably, during semifinals, teams found and fixed nearly half of the synthetic vulnerabilities, and even discovered a real-world zero-day in SQLite.
Building Toward DEFCON Finals and Beyond
The journey doesnāt end at RSA. As the teams prepare for the AIxCC finals at DEFCON 2025, DARPA is increasing the complexity of the challengeāand the available resources. Beyond the competition, a core goal is public benefit: all cyber reasoning systems developed through AIxCC will be open-sourced under permissive licenses, encouraging widespread adoption across industries and government sectors.
From Competition to Collaboration
Carney and Fisher stress that the ultimate victory isnāt in individual wins, but in strengthening cybersecurity collectively. Whether securing hospitals, water plants, or financial institutions, the future demands cooperation across public and private sectors.
The Northbridge experience offers a powerful reminder: resilience in cybersecurity is built not through fear, but through innovation, collaboration, and a relentless drive to secure the systems we all depend on.
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The DARPA AIxCC Experience at RSAC 2025 Innovation Sandbox: https://www.rsaconference.com/usa/programs/sandbox/darpa
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Guest: Dr. Bruce Y Lee
Senior Contributor @Forbes | Professor | CEO | Writer/Journalist | Entrepreneur | Digital & Computational Health | #AI | bruceylee.substack.com | bruceylee.com
Bruce Y. Lee, MD, MBA is a writer, journalist, systems modeler, AI, computational and digital health expert, professor, physician, entrepreneur, and avocado-eater, not always in that order.Executive Director of PHICOR (Public Health Informatics, Computational, and Operations Research) [@PHICORteam]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-y-lee-68a6834/
Website | https://www.bruceylee.com/
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Weāre back at the bar. Bruce is here, the garlic took the day off (too young to drink?), and weāre talking about something thatās not science fiction anymore ā the idea that your digital self could outlive you.
Yeah. Living forever. Or at leastā¦ being replicated forever.
It starts with a hologram of Princess Leia and ends with people in Japan marrying bots. And in between? Thereās a messy, fascinating, unsettling space filled with AI companions, algorithmic flattery, uncanny valley doppelgƤngers, and the very real possibility that weāre confusing memory with simulation.
Bruce brings up Star Trek ā of course he does ā where Captain Kirk debates a machine version of a long-dead friend who insists heās still the real deal. Spoiler: Kirk says no. And I get it. But what if that machine knows everything Iāve ever posted, recorded, written, liked, said, or searched? What if it feels like me?
Would you want to talk to it?
As always, our conversation doesnāt offer a final answer ā weāre not here to draw lines in the philosophical sand. Weāre here to hold up a mirror and ask: is that reflection still you if itās built out of pixels and training data?
This episode is personal and playful, but also incredibly relevant. Because weāre already building legacies we donāt fully understand. Every photo, every search, every rant, every laugh ā itās all on the record now. Our historical memory is no longer dusty boxes in the attic; itās a neural net waiting to be queried.
So yeah, one day, you might be sipping your espresso while a synthetic version of your late uncle offers you advice, cracks a joke, and asks if you still listen to that one podcast.
Just remember what Captain Kirk said: that might look like him, sound like him, even think like him ā but itās not really him.
Stillā¦ itās a hell of a conversation.
So join Bruce and me. Pull up a virtual stool. Itās Season 2, Episode 3. And no, that laugh you just heard isnāt AI-generated ā not yet.
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digital immortality, AI relationships, uncanny valley, chatbot therapy, synthetic identity, Star Trek, brain uploading, holograms, emotional AI, algorithmic intimacy, digital clone, memory simulation, techno-sociology, posthumanism, virtual consciousness, AI ethics, social engineering, digital legacy, artificial friends, future of identity
See You Next Time
You'll find links to connect with Bruce and explore his incredible contributions in journalism and medicine. I promise you; he's just as insightful and entertaining as he seems in the series. So, see you next time ā same bar, same garlic, new topics!
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Resources/References
The Singularity Is Nearer: When We Merge with AI
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šŖ From Myth to Machine: When Stories Shaped Our Journey to the Stars
April 9, 2025
Before humanity launched rockets toward distant planets or placed satellites that quietly orbit our Earth, before telescopes pierced the cosmic veil to reveal distant galaxies, we looked to the night sky armed only with wonder. Beneath starlit skies, humans gathered around fires, weaving myths from scattered constellations. These celestial bodies became our companionsāgods, heroes, trickstersānot simply pinpoints of distant light, but storytellers of destiny and reflection.Then came Galileo, a solitary figure who raised a simple tube of lenses skyward and irrevocably altered humanityās story. His telescope shattered myths, replacing divine portraits with measurable landscapes. Mountains on the moon, moons around JupiterāGalileo did not silence imagination; instead, he opened a door between wonder and reality, bridging storytelling and science.
Yet, even as telescopes multiplied and humanityās understanding deepened, our dreams kept pace, evolving into vibrant visions and audacious predictions. Writers began to sketch the future with an uncanny precision that blurred fiction and foresight. Jules Verne and H.G. Wells planted the seeds of possibility with lunar voyages and Martian encounters, not as mere entertainment, but as blueprints for what humanity could dare to achieve.
As technology accelerated in the twentieth century, our visions became grander, more complex, filled with moral ambiguities and philosophical questions. Isaac Asimov imagined civilizations stretching across galaxies, bound by logic and law, but also warned of humanityās fragile reliance on machines. Arthur C. Clarke envisioned not just interplanetary travel but the ethical challenges of artificial intelligence. Frank Herbertās Dune intricately wove ecology, politics, and spirituality into a cosmic tapestry, urging readers to reflect deeply on humanityās relationship with power and environment.
Meanwhile, cinema transformed space narratives from pages to powerful collective experiences. George Lucas and Gene Roddenberry projected humanityās oldest myths onto the widest canvas imaginable, framing space as a realm not just of exploration but of profound human drama. Star Wars and Star Trekāepics filled with heroism, redemption, and philosophical explorationsābecame cultural phenomena that informed and inspired generations, molding our collective hopes and cautions about life beyond our planet.
Today, we find ourselves not in an imagined future, but in a tangible present shaped by these rich narratives. Private companies and national agencies alike are racing to build orbital stations, lunar outposts, and even laying plans for interplanetary commerce. Space is no longer distant fantasyāit is a critical infrastructure woven deeply into our digital, political, and economic lives.
Yet crucial questions linger:
What stories do we now tell ourselves about space?
Are we still guided by the optimism and cautionary lessons learned from generations of dreamers?
Or are we seduced by spectacle, distracted by the headlines, losing sight of the nuanced realities and responsibilities that accompany our cosmic ambitions?
The stories we tell about space shape not only our visions of the future but our very journey toward it. Letās make sure our next chapter is one worth writing.
As always, let's keep thinking!
ā Marco
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Space Is Closer Than You Think: But Whatās Real, Whatās Hype, and Whatās Next
Space Innovation, Unfiltered: A reality check on whatās achievable today and whatās merely speculative.The State of Space Governance: Who is shaping the rules of engagement in orbit, and how do these decisions impact life on Earth?The Cybersecurity Front Line: Examining vulnerabilities in space infrastructure and their potential consequences back home.Panelists:
Lauryn Williams Former Chief of Staff in the Defense Industrial Base Policy Office at the Pentagon and former Director for Strategy in the White House Office of the National Cyber Director
Jim Free Former NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration Associate Administrator
Chris Sembroski Chief Astronaut & Founding Advisory Board Member at Titans Space Industries
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Marco Ciappelli | Co-Founder, Creative Director & CMO ITSPmagazine | Dr. in Political Science / Sociology of Communication l Branding | Content Marketing | Storyteller | My Podcasts: Redefining Society & Technology / Audio Signals / + | MarcoCiappelli.com
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Guest: Sara Dawš https://www.linkedin.com/in/saradaw
š Saraās latest book, Strategy and Leadership as Service: How the Access Economy Meets the C-Suite
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Letās talk about work. Not just jobs, but the way we structure work itself. Because letās be honestātechnology has completely changed how we collaborate, build careers, and define success. So why are we still clinging to outdated employment models?
In this episode of Redefining Society & Technology, I sit down with Sara Daw, author of Strategy and Leadership as a Service, to explore how the rise of fractional C-suite roles is challenging the traditional concept of employment.
For decades, work has been synonymous with full-time jobs, rigid schedules, and corporate hierarchies. But that model doesnāt fit todayās world. Instead, weāre seeing an unbundling of jobs, where businesses are accessing expertise on demand rather than keeping people on a payroll. Sara has been at the forefront of this shift, helping companies integrate fractional executivesāCFOs, CMOs, CISOsāwho work across multiple businesses rather than committing to just one.
But this isnāt just about executives. The gig economy isnāt limited to freelancers anymore. As technology enables remote collaboration, AI-driven automation, and decentralized work structures, weāre seeing a fundamental shift in how value is created. More and more professionals are choosing flexibility, autonomy, and variety over traditional employment, and businesses are learning how to build relationships without the security blanket of long-term contracts.
And hereās the key question: Is this shift making work better, or just more fragmented?
Technology has made this model possible, but psychology plays a huge role, too. Saraās research dives into psychological ownershipāthe idea that people can feel deeply connected to an organization, even without a formal employment contract. Itās about trust, autonomy, and the sense of belonging we create outside of traditional job structures.
So where does this all lead? Will companies fully embrace this model, or will they cling to the office-first, full-time mentality? And what happens when Gen Zāwho grew up in a fully digital worldāreshapes the workforce even further?
Letās rethink employment, leadership, and what it truly means to work in the digital age. Join me in this conversation with Sara Daw.
š Saraās latest book, Strategy and Leadership as Service: How the Access Economy Meets the C-Suite, is a practical alternative vision of the future of work that is being adopted by businesses globally. Saraās research focuses on what holds relationships together for the long-term in the absence of traditional employment contracts. Her work has been featured in The Sunday Times, Global Finance, Forbes and more outlets.
š Keywords: future of work, fractional employment, gig economy, leadership, digital transformation, workforce evolution, remote work, C-suite strategy, employment disruption, technology & society
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Guest: Joanne Higginsš https://laist.com/podcasts/la-made
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The moon landing was one of humanityās most celebrated achievementsāa technological marvel, a leap into the unknown, and a moment that defined an era. But history is often incomplete, and some of the most brilliant minds behind that achievement were left out of the story.
Thatās where LA Made: The Other Moonshot comes in. Host Joanne Higgins takes us on a journey to uncover the untold contributions of three Black aerospace engineers who helped make the Apollo mission possibleādespite facing systemic discrimination every step of the way. These men werenāt just solving some of the most complex engineering challenges of their time; they were also battling for their place in an industry that barely acknowledged them.
Joanneās personal connection to this storyāgrowing up hearing these experiences firsthand from her godfather, Charlie Cheathemādrove her to document their legacy before it was lost. What she uncovered is more than just a piece of forgotten history; itās a story about resilience, recognition, and the ongoing struggle for inclusion in science and technology.
In this episode of Redefining Society & Technology, we explore not just the space race but the human raceāthe fight for acknowledgment, the hidden struggles behind innovation, and the lasting impact of these unsung pioneers. Because technology is only part of the equation; the people behind it matter just as much.
Letās talk about it.
Subscribe to this Redefinign Sociey & Technology podcast on your favorite Podcast Player and stay tuned for the next episode!
Thank you for listening,
Marco Ciappelli
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LA Made: The Other Moonshot
Exploring stories of bold Californian innovators and how they forever changed the lives of millions all over the world.āLA Made: The Other Moonshot,ā tells the story of three Black aerospace engineers in Los Angeles, who played a crucial role in Americaās race to space, amid the civil unrest of the 1960s. Host Joanne Higgins grew up hearing her godfather tell stories about his work on the Apollo mission to the moon. But as an adult, Higgins realizes his contributions ā and those of other Black engineers ā had been overlooked and left out of history books. She sets out to correct that and ensure their stories are finally told. Join Higgins in this four-part series, as three āhidden figuresā give their accounts for the first time of their experiences in aerospace that broke racial barriers and helped the U.S. land on the moon.
š https://laist.com/podcasts/la-made
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The latest On Location with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli episode takes listeners behind the scenes of the NAMM 2025 show, featuring a vibrant discussion with John Mlynczak, NAMM President and CEO. The conversation is not just a recap of an incredible event but a celebration of musicās enduring power and the evolving role of technology in the music industry.
A Legacy of Music and Community
Founded in 1901, NAMM (National Association of Music Merchants) has become the worldās largest trade association representing the musical products industry. John Mlynczak shares how NAMM operates year-round to support manufacturers, retailers, and music educators through research, advocacy, and events. The annual NAMM show is the pinnacle of this work, gathering thousands of music makers, industry professionals, and artists to spark creativity and innovation.
Technology Meets Tradition
One of the episodeās key themes is the blend of modern technology with nostalgic sounds. The 2025 NAMM show showcased groundbreaking technologies, from AI-driven music tools to hardware-software collaborations. Mlynczak discusses how companies are innovating to create real-time processing tools, allowing musicians to produce music faster and more intuitively than ever before. He emphasizes that the goal is not to replace traditional methods but to enhance creativity and make music more accessible to all.
The Power of Inspiration
NAMMās mission to create more music makers worldwide is a central focus. Mlynczak explains how the NAMM Foundation supports educational programs across all ages, from K-12 schools to community groups and adult learners. The foundationās work aims to ensure everyone has the opportunity to explore music, whether through formal education or new digital tools that lower the barrier to entry.
A Moment to Remember: Jon Batiste at NAMM
A standout moment from the show was Mlynczakās interview with Grammy-winning artist Jon Batiste [https://youtu.be/Lfq35enGq58]. Initially uncertain, the conversation transformed into a genuine exchange about musicās influence and the industryās impact on artists. This interaction highlighted NAMMās broader vision of not just serving as a trade show but as a cultural hub that fosters creativity and community.
Looking Ahead to NAMM 2026
The episode concludes with anticipation for NAMM 2026, scheduled for January 20-24 in Anaheim, California. As Sean, Marco, and John reflect on this yearās successes, they invite listeners to join them next year to explore the intersection of music, technology, and inspiration.
Tune in to The Music Evolves Podcast to dive deeper into these insights and discover how NAMM continues to shape the future of music. Be sure to stay tuned for more On Location with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli as they cover more technology and society events around the world.
Guest: John Mlynczak, President and CEO of NAMM | View Website | Visit NAMM
Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine Podcasts and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
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Guest:
Jaqueline (JJ) Jayne
JJ has worked with people and technology for over 25 years, wearing multiple hats, resulting in an enviable breadth and depth of experience, insights and knowledge. She successfully led a security awareness and training program that resulted in a strong security culture and observable behaviour change. Over the last 5-years, JJ worked at KnowBe4, where she quickly established herself as a trusted voice in the region. Now, JJ consults and advises organisations, appears at conferences and events with her thought leadership, and provides insights across all forms of media.
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Jacqueline Jayne | LinkedIn
What happens when a government decides to āfixā a problem by banning it outright? Thatās the question on the table as Australia pushes forward with a law prohibiting social media access for kids under 16.
But letās be realādoes banning ever work?
Jacqueline Jayne, aka JJ, joins me to dissect this decision, what it means for kids, parents, and the future of digital society. JJ, a cybersecurity and human risk expert, argues that while the dangers of social media are undeniableācyberbullying, exploitation, and mental health risksāthe solution isnāt prohibition. Instead, we need real education, both for kids and, more importantly, for the adults who are supposed to guide them.
Think about it. If we let our kids drive at 16, itās because weāve spent years teaching them road safety. But when it comes to digital life, we throw them a smartphone at 10 and then panic when they donāt know how to use it responsibly. And now, instead of teaching, we justā¦ ban?
Letās not forget the unintended consequences. Cutting off access doesnāt eliminate social mediaāit just drives kids to sneakier, potentially more dangerous alternatives. VPNs, fake accounts, dark web forumsāwhen you push something underground, it often gets worse, not better. And what about the kids who rely on online spaces for community, education, and connection? Do we really want to isolate them further?
So, what now? JJ and I discuss whatās next, how governments, parents, and society can actually address the risks of social media without resorting to the digital equivalent of a temper tantrum. Because in the end, this isnāt just about Australiaāthis conversation is global.
Are we going to keep throwing laws at problems we donāt fully understand, or are we finally going to start taking education and digital literacy seriously?
Listen in, question everything, and donāt forgetādonāt click on that s**t!
Let me know what you think! Share your thoughts, questions, or even your debatesāIād love to hear them. And, of course, donāt forget to subscribe to Redefining Society & Technology for more conversations like this.
Stay tuned for the next episode!
Marco Ciappelli
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Episode recorded with JJ in Melbourne during Australian Cybersecurity Conference 2025
Balancing Technology and Human Awareness in Cyber Defense: Strategies for Families and Organizations | An Australian Cyber Conference 2024 in Melbourne Conversation with Jacqueline Jayne | On Location Coverage with Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli
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ITSPmagazine is gearing up for another year of in-depth event coverage, bringing insights from industry leaders, innovators, and companies making an impact in cybersecurity, technology, and society. Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli outline their plans for 2025, emphasizing a mix of established conferences and new opportunities to highlight emerging discussions.
Key Industry Events
The yearās schedule includes cornerstone cybersecurity conferences such as RSA Conference in San Francisco, Infosecurity Europe in London, and Black Hat in Las Vegas. These events serve as major platforms for discussing industry trends, launching new products, and showcasing research. Through editorial coverage, interviews, and discussions, ITSP Magazine provides perspectives from keynote speakers, panelists, and organizations shaping the field.
Expanding Coverage Beyond Cybersecurity
Beyond security-focused events, the team is covering NAMM 2025, a leading music and technology conference, and Legal Week in New York, where legal, policy, and AI discussions intersect. Other major tech gatherings include CES, VivaTech, and KIMS, broadening the conversation to industries influencing the digital landscape.
For companies looking to share their stories at these events, ITSP Magazine is offering sponsorship opportunities and editorial coverage. Stay tuned for updates, and catch ITSP Magazine on location throughout the year.
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Guests:
Brian Comiskey, Senior Director of Innovation & Trends at CES
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Hosts:
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/marco-ciappelli/
WebSite | https://www.marcociappelli.comSean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
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Episode Notes
CES 2025 is just around the corner, and what better way to dive into the upcoming event than with Brian Comiskey, Senior Director of Innovation and Trends and resident futurist at the Consumer Technology Association? In this special episode of On Location, I had the pleasure of speaking with Brian about what we can expect from this yearās CES, how it continues to shape the tech world, and what it means for all of us navigating a Hybrid Analog Digital Society.
Setting the Tone for the Year in Tech
As Brian pointed out, CES is not just an eventāitās the launchpad for the yearās tech trends. Taking place January 7-10 in Las Vegas, CES 2025 will be a massive showcase of innovation across countless industries, from artificial intelligence to mobility, digital health, energy solutions, and beyond.
This yearās theme, "Dive In," perfectly encapsulates the spirit of the event. It's not just about experiencing the surface level of emerging technologies but about going deeperāexploring how these advancements interact, converge, and shape our everyday lives. Whether you're an executive closing deals, a media professional discovering cutting-edge innovations, or a curious onlooker reading from afar, CES offers an opportunity to explore the tech-driven future.
Human-Centric Innovation at Its Core
CES has evolved from a purely consumer electronics show to something much broader. While enterprise solutions now account for nearly 40% of its exhibitors, the focus remains on human-centric innovation. As Brian aptly said, "Humans are not just consumers; they are patients, workers, collaborators, and creators." The technologies at CES aim to enhance our lives in all these roles.
Digital health is a prime example of this shift. This year, exhibitors in this category are moving to the Venetian campus alongside smart home, lifestyle tech, and accessibility solutions, highlighting how these technologies are converging to improve health, wellness, and longevity. From wearables that connect to your smart home to smart mirrors that monitor your mood, CES demonstrates how personalized, data-driven ecosystems can redefine daily living.
The Evolution of Innovation
Brian and I also discussed the nature of innovation, which he breaks down into two categories: evolutionary and revolutionary. CES showcases both. Evolutionary innovation involves incremental advances, like smarter AI chips in TVs that turn entertainment devices into command centers for your smart home or even tools for telehealth. Revolutionary innovation, on the other hand, includes breakthroughs like nuclear fusion and generative AIātransformations that redefine industries overnight.
This year, startups are expected to bring some of the most exciting stories. The Eureka Park pavilion will spotlight companies like Standard Energy, which is developing vanadium ion battery tiles for home energy storage, and Senergetics, which uses AI to predict and prevent corrosion in power plant pipes. Another standout is Glidance, an autonomous guide robot for individuals with low vision, showcasing how innovation can serve diverse needs and create new opportunities for accessibility.
A Convergence of Ideas and Opportunities
At its heart, CES is about connectionānot just connecting devices but connecting people and ideas. Itās a place where startups meet industry giants, partnerships are forged, and new possibilities are imagined. As Brian highlighted, the show serves as both a showcase and a platform for collaboration, where the seeds of future innovations are planted.
Wrapping It Up
CES 2025 is more than a trade showāitās a glimpse into the future of our coexistence with technology. As we prepare to dive into the event, one thing is clear: technology is no longer something we simply use. Itās a part of who we are and how we live.
Iāll leave you with this thought: CES isnāt just about whatās next; itās about how we can work together to make whatās next even better.
Mark your calendars for January 7-10, and stay tuned for more conversations as Sean Martin and I bring you the latest stories On Location.
Subscribe, follow, and letās explore the future together!
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Guest:
J.J. Jerome is an award-winning engineer and futurist who used his unique background in brain science and electronics to become a seminal influence in numerous cutting-edge technologies. He has been an internationally acknowledged leader in the development of human interfaces and intelligent building technology and is currently one of the nationās leading thinkers on using big data to mitigate climate change. He presents regularly at national conferences and is an advisor for STEM education.
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Exploring the End of Evolution in the Age of AI
Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of Redefining Society & Technology. Iām your host, Marco Ciappelli, and today weāre diving deep into a topic that has fascinated, puzzled, and, letās admit, worried us allāevolution and its future in a world dominated by technology.
Joining me is J.J. Jerome, author of Evolution Ended: The Next Stage of American Society. His book is bold, thought-provoking, and unapologetically challenging. If youāve read Yuval Noah Harariās Sapiens or Ray Kurzweilās The Singularity Is Nearer, youāre in for a similar mind-expanding ride.
J.J. and I explore how humanity has transitioned from physical survival to technological dependence and ask some profound questions: Has biological evolution reached its endpoint? Can technology become an extensionāor even a replacementāfor humanity? And what happens when AI starts being recognized not just as a tool but as a being?
This conversation will make you question everything you think you know about evolution, technology, and society. Ready? Letās jump in.
Is Evolution Over?
What happens when technology becomes the primary driver of evolution? Thatās the provocative premise of J.J. Jeromeās book, Evolution Ended: The Next Stage of American Society. On this episode of Redefining Society & Technology, we explore this profound shift with J.J., whose expertise ranges from biomedical engineering to consumer technology innovation.
From the pressures of tribal survival to the dominance of artificial intelligence, evolution is no longer dictated by biology alone. Instead, itās intertwined with technological progress, which is now shaping not just our survival but the way we interact, live, and think.
The Three Brains: Reptile, Mammal, and Human
One of the most fascinating parts of our conversation is J.J.ās breakdown of the human brain into three evolutionary stages: the reptile brain, responsible for instinct and survival; the mammal brain, which drives emotions and relationships; and the human cortex, enabling logic, planning, and creativity.
But hereās the twistāour primal, emotion-driven mammal brain often overpowers the logical cortex, especially in todayās digital world. Social media platforms have learned to exploit this dynamic, delivering dopamine hits through likes and shares, creating an addictive cycle that J.J. compares to a modern-day tribal dependency.
Has Biological Evolution Stalled?
J.J. argues that biological evolution has effectively paused in first-world societies. With technological advances eliminating many traditional survival pressuresāthink antibiotics, mobility, and birth controlāweāre no longer evolving in the Darwinian sense. Instead, our evolution has shifted to the social and technological realms.
Yet, this shift comes with its challenges. Weāve moved from survival-of-the-fittest to survival-by-technology, relying on tools like smartphones and AI for everything from navigation to communication. But what happens when technology becomes so advanced that it challenges our very definition of humanity?
AI as a Being: Where Do We Draw the Line?
Hereās where things get even more interesting. J.J. makes a bold claim: AI may soon be indistinguishable from humans in terms of language, logic, and interaction. He references the Turing Test, which suggests that if you canāt tell whether youāre speaking to a human or a machine, the machine is essentially thinking.
But if AI is thinking, should it be granted rights? What happens when an AI, indistinguishable from a human, asks not to be āturned offā? Are we prepared to navigate the moral, legal, and societal implications of treating AI as beings?
The American Angle: A Cultural Lens on Evolution
J.J.ās book focuses on the American context, where cultural and technological evolution intertwine in unique ways. He examines the role of alpha leaders in politics, business, and society, drawing parallels between human behavior and our mammalian instincts to follow dominant figures. This lens offers a timely critique of how technology amplifies tribalism and reshapes societal hierarchies.
Conclusion: More Questions Than Answers
If thereās one thing I hope you take away from this conversation, itās the power of questions. Has evolution ended? Is AI truly an extension of humanityāor its competition? And how do we balance the promise of technology with its profound ethical and societal challenges?
These questions donāt have simple answers, but thatās the point. This isnāt just a podcastāitās a conversation starter.
I hope this episode left you with more questions than answersābecause thatās where the best conversations begin. Be sure to check out J.J. Jeromeās book Evolution Ended: The Next Stage of American Society and visit his website, JJJerome.com.
Let me know what you think! Share your thoughts, questions, or even your debatesāIād love to hear them. And, of course, donāt forget to subscribe to Redefining Society & Technology for more conversations like this.
Stay tuned for the next episode!
Marco Ciappelli
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Guest: Dr. Bruce Y Lee
Senior Contributor @Forbes | Professor | CEO | Writer/Journalist | Entrepreneur | Digital & Computational Health | #AI | bruceylee.substack.com | bruceylee.com
Bruce Y. Lee, MD, MBA is a writer, journalist, systems modeler, AI, computational and digital health expert, professor, physician, entrepreneur, and avocado-eater, not always in that order.Executive Director of PHICOR (Public Health Informatics, Computational, and Operations Research) [@PHICORteam]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-y-lee-68a6834/
On Twitter | https://twitter.com/bruce_y_lee
Website | https://www.bruceylee.com/
On Forbes | https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/
On Psychology Today | https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/bruce-y-lee-md-mba
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Iāve been thinking a lot about the way our society meets technology head-on. As we approach an age of unprecedented advancementsāartificial intelligence, genetic editing, life extensionāthe big question that keeps coming back is: Who truly benefits? This episode of the Redefining Society and Technology Podcast digs into how innovation might uplift some while leaving others behind, and what that means for our shared future.
Shaping Technology, Shaping Society
Iāve always felt that technology doesnāt simply āhappenā to us; we shape its purpose, direction, and impact. Today, weāre facing a future where AI-driven healthcare, gene editing, and other profound innovations promise to change how we live. Yet, as I sit down with Dr. Bruce Y. Lee, we confront a timeless issue: Who gets to enjoy the fruits of these breakthroughs first? The wealthiest nations? The richest individuals? Or can we find a path that lets everyone share in the benefits?Learning from Our Past
History is filled with examples of innovation tipping the scales of power. When only a few had access to sea travel, they colonized distant lands. Control of information shaped empires. Over time, global communities realized that the well-being of one affects the well-being of all. Still, initial inequalities often last for decades, sometimes centuries, before evening out. Now we face a similar divide, but with far more at stake.Healthcare at a Crossroads
The healthcare industry illustrates this perfectly. High-tech medications and advanced procedures often come with staggering price tags. Meanwhile, entire groups go without the basics. Itās not that technology inherently creates inequality; itās that our complex systemsāinsurance companies, regulatory bodies, pharmaceutical giantsāskew the playing field. Those with time, money, and influence can access cutting-edge treatments first, while others must wait or never receive them at all.Algorithms and Old Biases
AI-driven platforms might promise equitable access to information or diagnostics, but theyāre only as fair as the data behind them. If existing biases and blind spots shape that data, theyāll be amplified by the technology itself. We risk codifying age-old injustices into new, gleaming interfaces. If we donāt proactively address these issues, weāll only replicate the pastās mistakes, dressed up in modern clothing.Pathways to a More Equitable Future
Yet, thereās hope. Technology can just as easily be a solution if we use it thoughtfully. AI can streamline drug discovery, cutting development times and costs. Virtual clinical trials can simulate diverse populations, breaking the limitations of biased real-world testing. More nimble players can enter the market, driving prices down and access up. The tools to level the playing field are within our reachāif we choose to build and deploy them that way.Looking Ahead: Beyond Our Human Shell
As we turn toward transhumanism, life extension, and the possibility of uploading ourselves into digital realms, the stakes grow even higher. Will advanced genetic editing or digital immortality be a luxury item, creating a new class system of enhanced humans and immortal minds? Or can these breakthroughs be democratized, ensuring that everyone can participate in the next chapter of human evolution?Choosing Our Future
Iām not here to say technology is bad, or even inherently unequal. Itās a mirror, reflecting our collective values and choices. We have the power to push for policies that ensure AI, genetic editing, and life-extending treatments serve everyone. But it wonāt happen by chance. Itāll require conscious effort, ethical frameworks, and a refusal to accept business as usual.As we move forward, letās remember that weāre all part of this conversation. Letās insist that technologyās greatest achievements are not trophies for the few, but shared blessings that help everyone thrive. If we do this right, the singularity doesnāt have to be an age of winners and losers; it can be a future where we all rise together.
See You Next Time
You'll find links to connect with Bruce and explore his incredible contributions in journalism and medicine. I promise you; he's just as insightful and entertaining as he seems in the series. So, see you next time ā same bar, same garlic, new topics!
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The Singularity Is Nearer: When We Merge with AI
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Guests:
Rob van der Veer, Author, Senior Principal Expert, SIG
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Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
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Episode Introduction
We live in a world where the boundaries between the physical and digital are fading fast. Technology isnāt just something we useāitās becoming an integral part of our lives. And while this offers incredible potential, it also forces us to question how we interact with it and where we draw the line.
During the episode, we asked: Is technology steering us, or are we steering it? Too often, we follow the "blinking lights" without stopping to think about their impact on our values, creativity, and even our identity. These are the kinds of conversations we need to have if we want to defineānot just adapt toāour hybrid society.
Lessons from Luna: AI as a Tool, Not a Master
Robās book offers a refreshing take on technology, packaged in a way that even kids can grasp. Luna, the protagonist, discovers that her AI paintbrush is a tool, not a creator. Itās not perfect; it makes mistakes. And thatās the whole point. The story teaches that while AI can enhance what we do, it doesnāt replace the magic and creativity that only humans bring to the table.
This is a lesson many adults need to hear, too. AI is powerful, but itās still a tool. The beauty, the meaning, and the intent behind its use come from us, not the machine.
The Human Touch: Creativity AI Canāt Replicate
We dug deeper into the limits of AI. Sure, it can create stunning visuals, write convincing text, and even mimic human expression, but it doesnāt feel. It doesnāt know what makes a piece of art moving or why a story resonates. Thatās uniquely human, and itās why creativity will always be ours to own.
As Rob put it, AI might help us go faster, but it canāt replace the soul behind the work. If we let it, it can be a partnerābut we must stay in control.
Staying in Control of the Tools We Create
One of the key takeaways from our conversation was a reminder to pause before jumping headfirst into using technology. Whether it's AI or something else, we need to understand it, question it, and think critically about the long-term implications.
Over-reliance on tools like AI can erode skills, creativity, and even decision-making. As we embrace these innovations, itās up to us to ensure they serve us, not the other way around.
Redefining Society: Our Role in Shaping the Future
As I reflected on the conversation, it became clear that redefining society isnāt a one-time decisionāitās an ongoing process. Each technological leap gives us a choice: to let it shape us or to actively shape our relationship with it.
Thatās what makes Robās book such a powerful metaphor. Itās not just a childrenās story; itās a call to action for all of us to pick up the paintbrushāwhether literal or metaphoricalāand decide what kind of world we want to create.
Wrapping Up
In Luna and the Magic AI Paintbrush, Rob van der Veer reminds us of an essential truth: tools are only as magical as the hands that wield them. In this hybrid analog-digital age, we need to embrace technology thoughtfully, never forgetting that itās human creativity and control that drive progress.
I invite you to listen to this episode of the Redefining Society & Technology Podcast to reflect on these themes. And if you have kids, maybe share Lunaās story with themāitās never too early to learn about the power of imagination and responsibility in our increasingly connected world
About the Book
Can an AI-powered paintbrush create an artistic masterpiece on its own?
This is a story about understanding how AI works through the experiences of a creative young artist. Meet the little girl who discovers that when working together with an AI paintbrush she can create great art - only by combining her imagination with the brushās technical ability.
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Guest: Peter Gigengack, Director Cyber Security, Capability, Department of Premier and Cabinet of WA
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-gigengack/
Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
The digital era has reshaped nearly every aspect of our lives, but it has also introduced new challenges to end-of-life planning. Peter Gigengack shares his insights on this pressing issue, recounting how he navigated the emotional and logistical hurdles of managing a loved oneās digital footprint after their passing.
A Personal Story of Loss and Discovery
Peter's journey into the realm of digital legacies began when his elderly relative, "John," passed away. The family was left not only with Johnās physical belongings but also his vast and complicated online presence.Without access to passwords or guidance from John, the family faced a daunting task. Drawing on his technical expertise, Peter took the lead, discovering firsthand the difficulties that come with managing digital identities without preparation.
Ethical and Legal Considerations
The discussion moves into the ethical and legal complexities of managing digital legacies. Peter admits that while his familyās choices were driven by love and respect, they highlighted a significant gray area between honoring someoneās memory and navigating privacy laws.These questions are universal: What rights do families have to access a loved oneās digital accounts? How can individuals protect their online presence while providing their families with the tools they need to manage it?
Preparing for the Inevitable
Sean and Marco discuss proactive steps, such as assigning digital heirs, securing access to critical accounts, and incorporating digital assets into estate planning. They also challenge technology providers to offer clearer solutions for managing digital legacies responsibly and ethically.The conversation emphasizes the need for individuals to take ownership of their digital afterlives while advocating for systemic changes that ease the burden on grieving families.
The Future of Digital Immortality
The episode explores the broader implications of digital immortality. In an age where online personas often outlast their creators, society must grapple with how we remember, honor, and even interact with the deceased.Marco, Sean, and Peter discuss potential technologies, like AI-driven tools that could simulate conversations with late loved ones, and the ethical dilemmas they may bring. The trio reflects on the balance between preserving memories and respecting boundaries in a rapidly advancing digital world.
Key Takeaways
Peter encourages families to have honest conversations about their digital legacies, ensuring everyone is prepared for lifeās uncertainties. Sean underscores the cybersecurity perspective, drawing parallels to how businesses prepare for digital risks.The episode ends with a call to action: Start planning your digital legacy today, and advocate for policies that simplify the process for future generations.
Conclusion
This episode tackles a timely and often overlooked topic, urging listeners to consider the impact of their digital footprints after death. Whether you're looking for practical guidance or contemplating the philosophical questions of digital immortality, the conversation offers valuable perspectives for navigating this evolving landscape.____________________________
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Guest: EJ Wise, Founder & Principal, WiseLaw
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/wiselaw3/
Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
Against the energetic backdrop of Melbourne's CyberCon, hosted by ISA, the conversation dives into the global nature of technology's influence. The trio reflects on pressing topics such as privacy, cybersecurity, and the shifting landscape of cyber law, all while situated in one of Australiaās most tech-forward cities.
EJ Wiseās Journey and Perspective
EJ Wise shared her remarkable career path, starting as a member of the U.S. Air Force JAG Corps and later founding her boutique law firm in Australia in 2018. Her firsthand experience sheds light on Australiaās relatively recent introduction of comprehensive cyber laws and the ongoing need to bridge the gap between technological innovation and legislative action.Educating Consumers: A Shared Responsibility
A key focus of the conversation was consumer awareness. EJ highlighted the critical need for industries to take responsibility for educating the public, much like banks have historically done with financial literacy. The discussion also touched on embedding technological literacy into early education, ensuring children grow up with a clear understanding of privacy and digital security.Technology and Ethics in Tension
The group examined the ethical challenges posed by advancing technologies, especially regarding surveillance and data privacy. From facial recognition in retail spaces to the increasing capabilities of modern devices to monitor user behavior, the conversation drew thought-provoking parallels between these innovations and the history of advertising practices.The ethical implications of such technologies go far beyond convenience, raising questions about transparency, consent, and societal norms in the digital age.
Legal Frameworks and Industry Responsibility
Marco and Sean explored the evolving role of legal frameworks in holding industry players accountable for consumer safety and privacy. EJās insights provided a grounded perspective on how regulatory environments are adaptingāor struggling to adaptāto these challenges.The discussion underscored a growing trend: companies must not only comply with existing laws but also anticipate and mitigate the societal impacts of their technologies.
Encouraging Dialogue and Reflection
Throughout the episode, the importance of open dialogue and introspection emerged as a recurring theme. By examining how technology shapes society and law, the discussion encouraged listeners to reflect on their digital habits and the privacy trade-offs they make in their daily lives.Conclusion
While the conversation didnāt provide all the answers, it illuminated the complexities of the interplay between technology, law, and society. EJ, Marco, and Sean left listeners with an invitation to remain curious, question norms, and consider their role in shaping a more ethically aware digital future.This episode captures the spirit of CyberCon 2024āsparking ideas, inspiring debate, and reinforcing the need for thoughtful engagement with the challenges of our hybrid analog-digital society.
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Guests:
Benji Zorella, eLearning Instructional Designer, CyberCX
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjiz/
Rebecca Caldwell, Phishing Content Specialist, Phriendly Phishing
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bec-j-caldwell/
Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
Kicking off the episode, Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli highlight the uniquely local flavor of the conference. With Benji and Bec calling Melbourne home, the guests reflect on the value of attending such a prominent event in their backyard while drawing on their experiences as hosts of their own cybersecurity podcast.
Unmasking Phishing in the Digital Age
Phishing takes center stage as Benji and Bec share stories and insights about the dangers lurking behind cleverly crafted scams. Sean Martin draws a clever comparison between traditional fishing methods and the digital phishing tactics cybercriminals use todayāhooking victims by exploiting their trust and curiosity.
Benji drives the conversation deeper, explaining how a person's digital footprintāespecially in an age of AI-driven tools like deepfakesācan be weaponized for deception. The guests underscore the importance of remaining vigilant and minimizing the personal information we leave online, turning our digital habits into our best line of defense.
Cybersecurity Education: The First Line of Defense
Shifting gears, the group emphasizes the need to move beyond relying solely on tech-driven safeguards and focus on building a culture of cybersecurity awareness within organizations. Bec Caldwell shares actionable strategies, likening cybersecurity education to learning how to driveāstarting small and gradually building confidence in spotting risks. Empowering employees to question suspicious contexts fosters not just better security, but a collaborative culture of accountability.
AI: Friend or Foe?
The role of AI emerges as a hot topic, sparking a discussion about its dual impact on cybersecurity. While AI enables sophisticated phishing attacks, it also holds the potential to strengthen defenses. The panel imagines AI tools evolving to provide real-time security nudges, similar to how cars alert drivers to potential hazards. Itās a balancing act, as AI must be wielded thoughtfully to enhanceānot replaceāhuman vigilance.
The Human Factor in Cybersecurity
Throughout the conversation, one message resonates: the enduring power of human intuition. Benji recounts a gripping story of a CEO who thwarted a highly advanced phishing attempt with a simple, old-school phone verification. This moment reinforces the idea that while tech can improve security measures, the human touch remains irreplaceable.
Future-Proofing Cybersecurity
As the episode winds down, the group reflects on thought-provoking audience questions from the conference. From AIās impact on CISO responsibilities to how generational shifts in digital communication shape cybersecurity strategies, the guests underscore the need for adaptability as both technology and society evolve.
A Final Call to Action
Marco Ciappelli and Sean Martin wrap up with a clear takeaway for their listeners: stay curious, ask questions, and embrace skepticism online. The key to navigating todayās cyber landscape is a mix of awareness, education, and the occasional gut checkābecause even in a tech-driven world, the human element is our greatest asset.
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Guest: Ambassador Brendan Dowling, Ambassador for Cyber Affairs and Critical Technology, DFAT
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendan-dowling-7812b4261/
AT AU Cyber Con | https://canberra2024.cyberconference.com.au/speakers/brendan-dowling
Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
This conversation with Brendan Dowling gave us a glimpse into the strategies, challenges, and collaborations shaping Australiaās digital futureāand reminded us all that the cyber frontier is not just a technical battlefield but a deeply human one.
The Role of a Cyber Ambassador
Dowling began by discussing the unique responsibilities of a Cyber Ambassador, a role that integrates cybersecurity into foreign policy at the highest levels. He emphasized how this position, once viewed as an innovative experiment, has become a strategic necessity for national security. As cyber threats grow increasingly complex and borderless, cyber diplomacy has emerged as a critical tool for fostering stability and trust on the global stage.Strengthening Global Collaboration
During the discussion, Dowling highlighted the collaborative nature of Australiaās cybersecurity efforts. He explained how cooperation within government agencies and partnerships with international allies are key to staying ahead of emerging threats. These relationships enable critical information-sharing, strategic alignment, and unified responses to incidents, underscoring the interconnectedness of todayās digital ecosystem.Navigating AI and Ethical Challenges
The conversation turned to artificial intelligence and its growing role in society. Dowling addressed the ethical considerations of AI development and deployment, stressing the importance of balancing innovation with responsibility. He described Australiaās approach to advocating for ethical design and policy frameworks that protect privacy and human rights while maximizing AIās benefits.Building Resilience in Critical Infrastructure
Critical infrastructure was another focal point of the discussion. Dowling acknowledged the increasing complexity of protecting vital systems, from industrial control processes to supply chains. He emphasized resilienceānot only in preventing attacks but in responding swiftly and effectively when incidents occur. This approach ensures that essential services, such as energy and manufacturing, can continue to operate even under pressure.Cultural Contexts in Cybersecurity
Dowling also reflected on the role of cultural differences in shaping cybersecurity strategies. He shared experiences from his international work, where addressing issues like online safety and disinformation often requires sensitivity to local norms and values. Tailoring cybersecurity approaches to diverse cultural contexts, he noted, is vital for fostering trust and collaboration across regions.Conclusion:
As the conversation concluded, Dowling reaffirmed the need for continued cooperation, innovation, and cultural understanding in tackling global cyber challenges. Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli expressed their gratitude, leaving listeners with a clear message: cybersecurity is not just a technical issueāitās a global, ethical, and deeply human challenge that requires collective effort.____________________________
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Australia's global opportunity and responsibility: shaping a more secure region and a safer digital world (Session): https://canberra2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/australias-global-opportunity-and-responsibility-shaping-a-more-secure-region-and-a-safer-digital-world
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Guest: Ivano Bongiovanni, General Manager / Sr Lecturer, AusCERT / UQ
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivano-bongiovanni-cybersecurity-management/
At AU Cyber Con | https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/speakers/ivano-bongiovanni-ibtpp
Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
This AISA Cyber Con 2024 On Location podcast episode recorded in Melbourne spotlights critical discussions led by Ivano Bongiovanni, General Manager for AUSCERT and Senior Lecturer in Cybersecurity at the University of Queensland. The dialogue centers on pivotal issues shaping organizational approaches to cybersecurity, from decision-making factors to data governance and regulatory influences.
Bongiovanni discusses his research on decision-making in cybersecurity, conducted across six large organizations. By interviewing professionals at operational, tactical, and strategic levels, the study examines the multifaceted factors driving decisions, such as configuring security systems or choosing cyber insurance. The research identifies four primary influence levels: industry, organizational, team, and individual. Key drivers include regulations at the industry level, organizational culture, and access to collaborative professional forums. These insights aim to provide decision-makers with a reflective framework to ensure comprehensive and informed choices.
Another prominent focus is data governance. Bongiovanni emphasizes its role as both a foundation for robust cybersecurity and a potential avenue for organizational value creation. He highlights the challenges organizations face in mapping, managing, and securing their data. While traditionally viewed through a lens of loss prevention, he argues that effective data governance can unlock operational efficiencies and new business opportunities. This aligns with a broader industry shift to link cybersecurity investments to strategic value creation, rather than purely protective measures.
The episode also touches on evolving regulatory landscapes. Bongiovanni outlines the increasing scrutiny on board members and CISOs (Chief Information Security Officers) regarding cybersecurity accountability. While Australia is still catching up with global trends, parallels are drawn to the U.S., where regulations like the SECās proposed cyber disclosures link leadership liability to organizational cybersecurity practices. In Australia, existing duties of care under the Corporations Act are becoming focal points for regulatory expectations.
Information-sharing frameworks, such as ISACs (Information Sharing and Analysis Centers), also feature in the discussion. Bongiovanni underscores their importance in fostering collaboration, particularly in sectors like higher education and healthcare. He notes the ongoing cultural shift encouraging organizations to share threat intelligence securely, which is essential for collective resilience.
Through Bongiovanniās contributions, this episode highlights both the challenges and opportunities in cybersecurity decision-making, emphasizing a nuanced understanding of regulatory, cultural, and technical dynamics.
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Future is now: Cautious reflections and bold predictions on cyber security in the years to come (Session): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-FsEVnuge9u
How do we make decisions in cybersecurity? Operational, tactical, and strategic decision-making in the age of AI (Session): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/sessions/session-BdOGZjahUe
The executive playbook: Elevate your cyber security through data governance (Workshop): https://melbourne2024.cyberconference.com.au/workshops/workshop-rxAAQPTLUJ
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Guest: Daisy Wong, Head of Security Awareness, Medibank
On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/daisywong127/
Hosts:
Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/sean-martin
Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society Podcast & Audio Signals Podcast
On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli
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Episode Notes
Kicking off the conversation, Marco noted the absence of his co-host Sean, whose focus often leans technical. This opened the door for a deeper exploration into the human and operational side of cybersecurity, an area Daisy Wong is uniquely equipped to discuss.
Daisyās career journey, from earning a marketing degree to becoming Medibankās Head of Security Awareness, is rooted in understanding human behavior. Her hands-on experience with phishing emails and time spent in a pen-testing team revealed how critical culture and communication are to effective cybersecurity.
The Power of Communication and Culture in Cybersecurity
Daisy highlighted how her ability to simplify complex technical language became the cornerstone of her work in cybersecurity awareness. She emphasized that soft skills, like communication, are just as essential as technical know-how in navigating todayās cyber challenges.Drawing cultural parallels, Daisy shared analogies from her cultural heritage, like the tradition of removing shoes before entering a home, and compared them to cybersecurity practices. Marco added an Italian twist, pointing to customs like cheek-kissing as a metaphor for ingrained behaviors. Together, they underscored how fostering a security-first mindset mirrors cultural conditioningāit requires intentionality, consistency, and collective effort.
Breaking Barriers and Building Bridges
One of the key takeaways from the discussion was the need to break down the misconception that cybersecurity is solely a technical field. Daisy argued for creating environments where employees feel safe reporting security concerns, regardless of their technical background.She shared strategies for fostering collaboration, like simple yet impactful initiatives during Cyber Awareness Month. These efforts, such as wearing branded T-shirts, can make security a shared responsibility and encourage open communication across teams.
Staying Ahead in an Evolving Threat Landscape
Daisy also spoke about how cyber threats are evolving, particularly with the rise of generative AI. Traditional warning signs, like spelling mistakes in phishing emails, are being replaced with far more sophisticated tactics. She emphasized the need for organizations to stay adaptable and for individuals to remain vigilant.While AI offers tools to identify risks, Daisy and Marco agreed that personal accountability and fundamental awareness remain irreplaceable in ensuring robust security practices.
In this lively episode of On Location with Marco Ciappelli, Daisy Wong spotlighted the indispensable role of human behavior, culture, and communication in cybersecurity. Her insights remind us that while technology evolves, the human element remains at the heart of effective cyber defense.
Cybersecurity isnāt just about systems and softwareāitās about people. And as threats become more sophisticated, so must our strategies, blending technical tools with cultural awareness to create a resilient and adaptable defense
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