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Nimal, Arlene, and I, members of the Anti-Racism Movement subgroup, discuss the Social Work Awards 2024 and our feelings following our win.
We also share information about our forthcoming conference on 22/11/24 - entitled ICU. Tickets and more information can be found here;
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**Overview:**
In this episode, we conclude our insightful discussions with Dr. Agnes Bryan, focusing on Chapter 7 of her forthcoming book manuscript, which delves into the complex themes of race and racism.
**Key Discussion Points:**
- **Navigating Difficult Conversations:** Strategies for addressing racism and the importance of positional theory.
- **Empathy and Emotional Intelligence:** The roles of compassion and understanding in challenging dialogues.
- **Conflict in Relationships:** Exploring the fear and pain that can arise during sensitive conversations.
- **Creating Safe Spaces:** Techniques for fostering emotional connections and empathy in interactions.
- **Addressing Inequality:** Strategies for confronting conflict within organizations.
- **Holding Spaces:** Understanding the importance of creating supportive environments in professional settings.
**Reflection:**
Engaging with Agnes and exploring her profound insights on these crucial topics has been a tremendous privilege. I am eternally grateful for her contributions.
**Upcoming Event:**
As a member of the Anti-Racist Movement (ARM), I invite you to our Second Annual National Conference on November 22nd, where Dr. Agnes Bryan will be our keynote speaker. She will share her valuable insights on this year’s theme, “I See You” (ICU).
**Conference Highlights:**
- Workshops for students, newly qualified social workers, aspiring writers, and men interested in ARM.
- Opportunities to deepen understanding of allyship and the role of effective anti-racist group facilitators.
- Artistic performances and networking opportunities with like-minded individuals committed to systemic and structural change.
Join us for what promises to be an enriching and inspiring event!Here is the link for the ICU event organised by Shantel Thomas - founder of ARM
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In our last interview before the summer break, #DrAgnesBryan takes an even deeper dive into the role of the anti-racist facilitator/trainer in supporting transformation. She touches on the emotionality of the space, the feelings of the parties involved, and the need to keep moving forward through relationship-building and increasing our political savvy to promote understanding of the context in which race, racism, and discrimination are difficult to discuss.
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On the 5th Anniversary of The Social Workers Matter Podcast, Dr Sylvia is interviewed by Academic, writer and coach Ms Sharon Jennings.
Sylvia and Sharon discussed various aspects of Sylvia's life and career, including her interests, her approach to work, and her personal and professional journey regarding anti-racism. Additional discussion topics included Sylvia's Interests and Approach to Work, Anti-Racism Journeys and Collective Wisdom, Black African Women's Experiences and Legacy Preservation, Sylvia's Shift Towards Creativity and Fulfilment and Ancestral Resilience, Creativity, and Performing Arts.
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In this episode, Dr. Agnes Bryan provides a deep analysis of the dynamics and processes involved in engaging in challenging conversations about race and racism. Specifically, she delves into the topic in Chapter 4 of her unpublished manuscript. Dr. Bryan explores the concept of racial anxiety and fear, examining how these emotions manifest in the interactions between black and white individuals. She emphasizes the importance of understanding that seeking knowledge and wanting answers to "fix" the issue is not the same as truly knowing and comprehending the complexities of race. Dr. Bryan encourages the development of highly attuned listening skills as a means to navigate these challenging conversations effectively.
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In this episode, Dr Agnes Bryan continues to share another chapter from her manuscript - chapter III. We discuss in detail elements of 'Holding Spaces for Conversations' about race, racism and anti-racism.
A fascinating discussion where I shared my experiences when delivering anti-racist training and Agnes applied her thinking to the live material.
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Sylvia and Louisa discussed the importance of accessibility for the deaf community, with Louisa sharing her personal experiences as a black parent of her son who became deaf following illness. She shares some of the challenges she faced in navigating the healthcare system. They also discussed her son's educational journey and his later career prospects. Louisa's son Ashton is an inspiring story, as he has not let his hearing impairment hold him back, and has received a tremendous amount in his life. The conversation also touched on the challenges of communication with the deaf community, the importance of parental research and advocacy, and the need to better represent the disabled community in various fields.
Link: National Deaf Children's Society - https://www.ndcs.org.uk/
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After a break of almost 6 months, SWM is back - in this 81st episode, I am in conversation with academic, author, coach and facilitator Dr Agnes Bryan.
Agnes discusses in detail, chapter 5 from her manuscript: 'Facilitation Leadership & Containment'.
She highlights the need for skillful and courageous facilitation as we seek to navigate transformative change personally, professionally and within organisations on issues of race, racism and anti discrimination, in the work place and societally.
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In this episode, Stefan Brown joins SWM again for part II of his interview. He shares aspects of his anti-racism work as a Social Work Programme lead at Royal Holloway, University of London. Stefan has worked at the University for 14 years. You will also hear about his interests in Mental Health and Criminal Justice in relation to the treatment of Black Men in these spaces.
Topics we cover include:
involvement in #SWEARN - Social Work Education anti-racist network. project - decolonising the curriculum Work with Black & Global majority (B&GM) students, teaching staff setting up a mentoring scheme for B&GM students mental health services and the treatment of Black men and the cross-over with the criminal justice system.Stefan can be reached at: [email protected]
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Richard Ashigbor is a social work academic based at Southbank University. Richard is a lecturer and the Course Lead for Social Work at the institution. Richard shares aspects of his rich practice and leadership background and how he reluctantly became an academic which he had not planned.
He shares;
the route to his academic career - citing the murder of George Floyd and Hackney's Child Q as significant events during this period of his life discovering differences and similarities between social work practice and academia, seeking ways to challenge established norms in terms of theories and their origins the challenges of teaching and managing the multitudes of dynamics and politics in the teaching space - where surprisingly respect and dignity were noticeably absent locating support for himself and finding his voiceHis vision:
achieve top University spot become an increasingly inclusive programme develop varied assessment approaches complete a teaching qualification as part of continuous professional developmentFuture research interests:
Youth violence Familial sexual abuse adultification aspects of allied services and working togetherRichard wants to be 'intentional' about achieving change and inclusivity.
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In this episode, Sharon and I reflect upon and explore how we feel about doing this work, our conversation includes the following touchpoints:
we don't want to do this forever, so we approach this work with caution, race and racism are part of my life, not my passion, and constantly weighing up whether this is going to wipe me out, this work takes something from you What was our resistance to undertaking this work?
Is this work the only thing I think about Race and racism - is not the only thing I think about, am I in denial about these painful aspects of my life?
We have witnessed awful experiences for trainers undertaking this work we aren't talking about ourselves.
It's our lived experience and personal (the material)
We are role models for black brown and white participants.
What do black practitioners get out of anti-racist training?
Separate spaces are needed for participants.
We need to protect participants who are sharing harrowing stories.
We need to honour those painful stories
what do white participants bring of themselves to the training space?
What stories could they admit in separate spaces?
What are the critical conversations for white people?
What impact do two black trainers have on a mixed group?
How are white trainers challenging their inherent racism? the need for white-only spaces will be]enable discussion of epiphanies, which can often be waring and burdensome for black participants, there is a need for honesty What are the issues for us as black trainers: should we be doing this training, often told 'You're the experts', What does that even mean?
As educators inevitably we water down the material, consequently do we lose aspects of our integrity? Leaders tend to want step-by-step answers to anti-racist practice. Change comes from deep introspection, not a list, there needs to be some sweating and self-challenge involved.
There is value in exploring social graces, it's a start.
What does allyship mean?
What can we as trainers do for ourselves?
Are you ready for that? Moving forward; Offer colleagues space for proper training, courses, and workshops. Proper developmental spaces to further develop, grow and strengthen as anti-racist educators and trainers. See what interest is out there for this offer and the need for writingRef's, all available in audio books :-)
Black Fatigue - How Racism Erodes the Mind, Body, and Spirit by Mary-Frances Winters (2020)
Living while Black - by Guilaine Kinouani (2021)
How to be an Antiracist - by Ibram X Kendi (2019)
What white people can do next - by Emma Dabiri ( 2021)
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Our guest in this episode is Bash who is the Director of Mkbcare Ltd, a semi-independence care provider for 16yrs + &18yrs + and family support. In today's episode, Bash shares her professional and personal story which includes her progress in continuing her education, and poignantly, the significance of the year - 2017 - which was marked by family health challenges, Brexit and Grenfell. She describes this as the year she did not stop crying......... she shares how these events drove her and her son to set up Mkbcare Ltd and why they did so.
For more information about their great work check out the links below:
Company website is https://www.mkbcareltd.co.uk/ Our Instagram is @mkbcare_semi_independent Removal business is called Furniturecab our website is https://www.furniturecab.com/ Instagram is @furniturecab
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Cath Willams is based at Nottingham University where she lectures on their social work programmes.
In this episode, we hear more about her ver political family and how she became politicised. Her lengthy career and practice interests
Cath completed her PhD exploring the impact of migration on family relationships. She is particularly interested in the separation and reunification of Caribbean families. I cannot wait to read it!
Cath's research presentations include:
Keynote Speaker, Title: 'Policy and perspective on Migration'. International Conference on Perspectives of Asylum, Refuge and Migration, 3 - 6 December 2019. University of Derby, College of Health and Social Care with Early Childhood Studies, Institute of Education, Multifaith Centre and European partners Research Seminar, Title: Windrush is not History: The Past in the Present. School of Sociology and Social Policy, 23 October 2019, University of Nottingham Conference Presentation, Title: Bringing History to Life: Collaborative Engagement with Older African Caribbean Women'. East Midlands Doctoral Network Postgraduate Research Conference, 11 September 2019, University of Derby Conference Presentation, Title: 'Migration, Memory and Mothering'. The Born Yesterday Conference, September 5-6, 2019, University of Nottingham, UK Unpublished Conference Paper, Title: The Use of Critical Race Theory as an Approach in Social Research. British Sociological Association Postgraduate Research Symposium. University of Durham, 2017. Images of Blackness Conference Paper (unpublished). Title: Focus Groups as a method of exploring the migration experiences of first-generation African Caribbeans. University of Newham, September 2013 Unpublished Conference Paper: Theme: Health and Wellbeing in Society - Title: Migration and Attachment: The Impact of separation on attachment relationships in first and second-generation Caribbean families. The East Midland Universities PGR Students' Conference, University of Nottingham, 2012 Past ResearchCath was the supervisor on an Oral History Project recording interviews with 1st generation African Caribbean older people in Bradford between 1986-88.
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This episode has efficiency in mind, my guest Hayley Watts helps people solve their problems. The people she works with generally have too much work and not enough time, too many emails, or meetings. In addition, she works with teams to help them have difficult conversations, about strategy, getting people to behave in a way that works and making changes that might feel tough but will bring about better outcomes. She also supports managers early in their career journey. In this podcast she touches on; advising clients about what to do when you're not available, consulting emails 3-4 times a day - achieving inbox zero, turning off notifications, creating an email 'Actions' folder, knowing the difference between what's urgent and what's important, know your optimum energy levels during the day, creating time to regularly reflect especially when busy.
Services Hayley and colleagues provide:
Training Career Development Coaching Change Management Executive Coaching Leadership Development Life Coaching Public Speaking Non-profit ConsultingCoaching and Training https://inspireful.co.uk/Coaching and Training https://inspireful.co.uk/
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Rebekah Pierre is an author, journalist and social worker. She works as a Professional Officer for the British Association of Social Workers. In our conversation in this episode, Rebekah represents herself and shares her experiences, thoughts and ideas on our Care system. She also shares some of the highs and lows of efforts to get the voices of those with care experience heard by the central government and others in decision-making positions.
In this podcast you will also hear news about the new book Rebekah has edited titled "Free Loaves on Fridays" - due to be published early next year 2024, this will be an anthology by people with care experience.
LinkedInhttps://uk.linkedin.com › rebekah-pierre-223b04122
Twitter: @RebekahPierre92
https://www.basw.co.uk/media/news/2022/oct/open-letter-social-worker-who-wrote-my-case-files
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Here is the first of the SWM Research episodes, Senior Lecturer in the Department of Social Work and MSc Social Work Programme Director at Royal Holloway, University of London - Stefan Brown joins us in this episode.
Stefan qualified as a social worker in the 90s and transitioned to higher education over 13 yrs ago. In today's episode, we hear about his work in the field and his PhD research on Early onset dementia.
Stefan also shared updates on the Mental Capacity Act.
Look out for Stefan's part II, when he shares details on his work in the Race & Mental Health space.
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In this episode of SWM, I'm in conversation with Mike McKenzie. We met at a screening of his film Be Longing. Mike shares details of how and why he made the film and gives us some insight into the lives of foster carers who seek to work with social workers and other professionals. Mike, his wife and his family are clearly committed to their roles as foster carers and used his creativity to communicate some important messages to social workers and others. He is really keen on effectively working together in the best interests of children who are looked after. The film is screened monthly online followed by a discussion group, all sorts of issues emerge during the discussion - insightful, stimulating and informative.
About Mike: Born in London to Jamaican parents Mike is a Foster Carer, Musician, Filmmaker and Music Teacher. He, his wife and his family derive enormous satisfaction from fostering young children. They have experienced some real highs and lows throughout. Mike became a filmmaker in 2007 and set up DrumCamFilms. He went on to undertake various projects in the filming world, including documentaries, short films, training and music videos. He has also completed a number of projects aimed at the educational sector.
His latest film drama project is a film called “Be-Longing”, which is dedicated to and directed for the foster children they have cared for and had its 1st screening at the Lexi Cinema in Kensal Rise many years ago.
Be Longing is the story of a young boy aged ten years old who had been placed in care, living in a foster home. His history includes being removed from violent and chaotic birth parents after a series of family breakdowns, he is torn between accepting the trust, kindness and security of his foster family and remaining 'loyal' to his birth parents who he still loves dearly.
Self-destruction, despair, anger, betrayal, hope and salvation are all themes within this film. The struggle to regain the childhood of this young man who has not yet experienced the innocence of youth is, unfortunately not uncommon for many of today's youth placed in care or living in broken homes. In this short film, Be Longing seeks to show this boy's journey from his very first day 'in care' and charts his progress along the way.
At present the film is helping to connect with many amazing care experienced people, Artifacts CEP, Comfort Cases, Rajinder.keohane, David L Jackson and Publishing professionals. Mike and his team have taken the film to The Montreal Black Film Festival, and more recently to No.10 Downing Street to meet Gillian Keegan MP, the Secretary of State for Education, and Claire Coutinho MP, the Minister for Children, along with The Fostering Network and other foster carers from across the country. Now as @MAD4Films Mike and the team aim to keep talking about the best outcomes for children and make more films about kids in care.
Mad4 Films Profile
https://www.linkedin.com/company/mad4-films/?viewAsMember=truehttps://mad4films.com/projects/
Mikes Profile https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-mckenzie-25715718/
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In this episode, I'm in conversation with 3 hardworking and passionate black women; Millie Kerr, Nimal Jude and returning Shantel Thomas. This was an opportunity to discuss and review the conference, its original aims and objectives. Our discussion was lively, frank and open - full of laughter and warmth but no less serious about the 'mission'.
Millie, Nimal and Shantel were instrumental in organising and leading this event in collaboration with the S.W.E.A.R.N - Social Work Anti-racist Network. The team discussed what went well and the feedback received, they also shared what would have improved the event, namely a budget! Most of the work in bringing this conference to fruition came down to grit, determination and additional work on top of their day jobs.......... we engage in discussion on the need for senior leaders to really get involved, which will require some deep self-reflection on issues of anti-racism and commitment to action and change.
The team have bigger ambitions for next year and will be working with other colleagues to make it happen, so watch this space - if there is anything you can do to help with the mission an ACTION agenda, please get in touch.
We also hear about the ARM - Anti-racist Movement, a space for healing. Members of ARM are predominantly Black and Brown women working in the anti-racism space but also include practitioners, educators and leaders. ARM meet every last Friday of the month.
For more details, please send enquiries to the email address below:
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Maria Takaendisa is a Systemic Family Therapist by training but also describes herself as a storyteller, a transformative change leader and therapeutic thought leader. She unlocks change and brings about big-picture thinking. Her psychotherapeutic training affords her the unique skill of understanding and working with group dynamics to understand organisational culture and inform change processes. In today’s interview with SWM, Maria shares a little about the range of her work, particularly her work in the anti-racism space and with trauma. Maria is also interested in well-being and healing and shares something of this work and its importance.
To make contact with her directly her website address is https://www.mariatakaendisa.com/
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100 Great Black Women Speak: https://www.olmec-ec.org.uk/100-great-black-women/maria-takaendisa/
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David L Jackson is currently gainfully employed as he told me, he is a Senior Planning Engineer. He has done many things and believes we should not allow ourselves to be put in a box. David has also authored a book called 'Oi -Pay Attention. This gets rocky'. Interestingly, paying attention is precisely what he wants Social Workers to do. Dave is care experienced and wrote some of his story as he believes and thinks it is critical that we preserve, document and learn from the past. Dave's book documents life's brutal and harsh reality in statutory care in the '60s and '70s. For the most it was awful; the abuse, his experiences as often the only Black child in the homes and importantly how he survived despite the poor care he received.
As our conversation progressed, Dave shares some messages for social workers, he pulls no punches and challenges us to become more active in our advocacy for those we work with and care for, and importantly become more vocal in what we see as wrong in our profession and our leadership. He encourages us to not be so 'nice' as this is not how change takes place.
He covers a range of issues, including racism, sexism, and becoming a father. Dave is an engaging and no-nonsense speaker, so 'pay attention. This gets rocky'.
To purchase his new book please visit:http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1912183730
To connect with Dave follow him on Twitter @childcalledoi
Email him @superdj1mac.com
Linkedin: @ Dave Jackson
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