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SummaryJason Barrett (LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the integration of open-source intelligence into the American Intelligence Community. Jason is the first-ever OSINT Executive. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceHistorical examples of OSINTThe evolution of Open Source IntelligenceThe challenges and unique opportunities OSINT presentsThe future of OSINT within the Intelligence Community Reflections Trust and transparency Efficiency in intelligence gatheringAnd much, much more …Quotes of the Week“We're living in an age when credibility and trust is really important to build. This is an opportunity for the IC to really build that trust, I think in important ways. So, it's an area I think you will see more of us being more transparent in our work.” – Jason Barrett. Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCasts*U.S. Army Open-Source Intelligence (OSINT) with Dennis Eger & Shawn Nilius (2024)Cybersecurity in The White House with Camille Stewart Gloster (2024)David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence with the former CIA Director & 4* General (2023)Irregular Warfare & Intelligence with IWC Director Dennis Walters (2023)DEEPER DIVEBooksOSINT Techniques: Resources for Uncovering Online Information, M. Bazzell (2023) Deep Dive: Exploring the Real-world Value of Open Source Intelligence, R. L. Baker (Wiley, 2023)Open Source Intelligence Methods and Tools: A Practical Guide to Online Intelligence, N. A. Hassan & R. Hijazi (Apress, 2018)Primary Sources The IC OSINT Strategy 2024-2026 (2024)DoS Open Source Intelligence Strategy (2024) Ethical Frameworks in Open-Source Intelligence (2022) Open-Source Intelligence, Department of the Army (2012) Department of Defense OSINT Instruction (2010)*Wildcard Resource*You’ve probably practiced OSINT techniques many times before – Think, Facebook stalking your old college friends to see what they’re up to. Many video games also involve the usage of open-source collection techniques: Return of the Obra Dinn (2018) is one such critically acclaimed video game. The game, set on an early 19th-century ship, challenges its player to solve the mystery of what happened to the crew onboard by piecing together scraps of information from journal entries and related documents. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Summary
Tim Tate (Website) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the Spycatcher Affair. Tim is a best-selling author and award-winning filmmaker.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
Peter Wright: His background and motives
The contents of Spycatcher including the exposure of alleged soviet moles
The UK’s efforts to keep their secrets secret
The lasting effects of the Spycatcher Affair
Reflections
Personal secrecy vs. public security
Censorship and free speech
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
"[Wright] found truly acres of paperwork from old files which had been disregarded and hadn't been properly followed up on and leads that hadn't been properly followed. And when he pulled at them, those threads of evidence, and when he chased it down, what he found, as often as not, was genuine reason to suspect that the penetration, the widespread penetration, was real and serious.” – Tim Tate
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Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*Spotlight Resource*
To Catch a Spy: How the Spycatcher Affair brought MI5 in from the Cold, Tim Tate (Icon Books, 2024)
*SpyCasts*
The Counterintelligence Chief with FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler (2023)
St. Ermin’s Hotel, London – The History of a Legendary Spy Site with Stephen Duffy (2023)
The Information Battlespace – Foreign Denial and Deception with Bill Parquette (2022)
Dealing with Russia – A Conversation with Counterintelligence Legend Jim Olson (2022)
DEEPER DIVE
Books
To Catch a Spy: The Art of Counterintelligence, J. Olson (Georgetown University Press, 2021)
Traitors Among Us: Inside the Spy Catcher's World, S. A. Herrington (Harvest Books, 2000)
The Spycatcher Affair, C. Pincher (St. Martin’s Press, 1988)
Spycatcher, P. Wright (Heinemann, 1987)
Primary Sources
Peter Wright Case (Part 1) (1987)
Peter Wright Case (Part 2) (1987)
Retired Spy Claims Cover Up in British Service (1984)
The Hollis Affair (1981)
The “Zinoviev” Letter Investigation (1924)
The Zimmermann Telegram (1917)
*Wildcard Resource*
Areopagitica (1644) by John Milton
Illegally published in the UK in protest to the Licensing Order of 1643, this polemic has since become one of the most influential documents defending the right to free speech and free publication.
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Summary
Rachel Noble joins Andrew to discuss her role as Director-General of the Australian Signals Directorate. Rachel is the first woman to hold this position.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
The Australian Signals Directorate: Its purpose and mission
The true story of the Pine Gap spy facility
Leadership in Intelligence
The SIGINT origins of the Five Eyes alliance
Reflections
The value of team
The importance of work-life balance
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“Women lead differently. We talk differently, we engage in different ways. And I've had to learn to own that about myself and not be tempted to try to be like the guys, compete with them on their own terms, or to adopt male behaviors in order to be heard … [Doing that] doesn't really help other women who might come after me.” – Rachel Noble.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
Codebreaking and Codemaking Down Under with John Blaxland and Clare Birgin (2024)
Australian National Day Special: Intelligence Down Under with John Blaxland (2024)
SPY CHIEFS: Director-General of Security Mike Burgess - ASIO, Australia & America (2022)
Keeping Secrets/Disclosing Secrets with Spy Chief turned DG of Australia’s National Archives David Fricker (2022)
*Beginner Resources*
What is SIGINT? YouTube (2020) [2 min. video]
Who we are, Australian Signals Directorate (2020) [Short article]
Our Agencies, National Intelligence Community of Australia (n.d.) [Overview of each agency in the Australian IC]
DEEPER DIVE
Primary Sources
REDSPICE Blueprint (2022)
Report of the Royal Commission on Intelligence and Security (1977)
Australian Treaty Series: Five Power Defence Agreements (1971)
Australian Treaty Series: Agreement between the Government of the Commonwealth of Australia and the Government of the United States of America relating to the Establishment of a Joint Defence Space Research Facility (1966)
Policy file containing Cabinet approval of establishment of Joint Intelligence Organisation and participation of New Zealand Government (1946)
ASD Role and effectiveness of Signals Intelligence in World War II (1945)
*Wildcard Resource*
Rachel mentioned in this podcast episode that one of her favorite treats when coming to the States are Snickerdoodles – A delectable sugar cookie showered in cinnamon-sugar topping.
In the cookie world, snickerdoodles are a more recent invention with their first written mention being in an 1889 cookbook. Learn more about the history of cookies here!
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Summary
Neil Bradbury (Website, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the deadly history of poison and espionage. Neil is an author and biochemist.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
How different poisons affect the human body
The usage of poisons as a covert assassination method
The deaths of defectors Alexander Litvinenko and Georgi Markov
The Soviet Union’s Lab X and the production and research of poisons on the state level
Reflections
The double edge of creativity
The necessity for research and experimentation
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“In order to counteract lots of the poisons, you have to know how they work, and you have to be able to develop your own. So, yes, undoubtedly, Western governments are just as actively involved in creating these chemicals and also the antidotes to them.” – Dr. Neil Bradbury.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*Spotlight Resource*
A Taste for Poison: Eleven Deadly Molecules and the Killers Who Used Them, Neil Bradbury (St. Martin’s Press, 2022)
*SpyCasts*
The Murder of an IRA Spy with Henry Hemming (2024)
I Helped Solve the Final Zodiac Killer Cipher with David Oranchak (2024)
The North Korean Defector with Former DPRK Agent Kim, Hyun Woo (2023)
Spies: The Epic Intelligence War Between East vs. West with Calder Walton (2023)
DEEPER DIVE
Books
Poison: The History of Potions, Powders and Murderous Practitioners, B. Hubbard (Welbeck Publishing, 2020)
Poison: A History: An Account of the Deadly Art and its Most Infamous Practitioners, J. Davis (Chartwell Books, 2018)
The KGB's Poison Factory: From Lenin to Litvinenko, B. Volodarsky (Zenith Press, 2010)
Primary Sources
Press Release on the Poisoning of Alexei Navalny (2020)
Update on the Use of Nerve Agent in Salisbury, UK (2018)
The Litvinenko Inquiry (2016)
Situation Report on Piesteritz (1953)
Analysis of Madame Lefarge’s Arsenic Trial (1840)
*Wildcard Resource*
This week’s companion song can only be Waterloo Sunset (1967) by The Kinks.
Heralded as one of the most beautiful songs of the swingin’ sixties, “Waterloo Sunset” is appropriately incorporated into the title of Neil’s chapter on the assassination of Georgi Markov, which took place on London’s Waterloo Bridge.
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Summary
Jefferson Morley and Mark Zaid join Andrew in a debate over the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Mark and Jeff are longtime friends and colleagues with very different viewpoints of what truly happened on November 22nd, 1963.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
The lasting questions surrounding the Kennedy assassination
Lee Harvey Oswald’s intelligence connections
The Warren Commission and the JFK Assassination Records
The strangest theories Mark and Jeff have heard, and the most plausible explanations of who killed President Kennedy
Reflections
Public distrust and the search for truth
Reactions and responses to tragedy
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
”That's why I think they probably have something to hide. Because it doesn't make sense otherwise … If they had access to that kind of straightforward story, we would get that.” – Jefferson Morley.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
The Skinny on American Intelligence & the Law with D.C. “Super Lawyer” Mark Zaid (2024)
Rise of Devils: The Origins of Modern Terrorism with James Crossland (2024)
Havana Syndrome – A Panel featuring Nicky Woolf, Marc Polymeropoulos, and Mark Zaid (2023)
The Past 75 Years with Historian of the CIA Rhodri Jeffreys-Jones (2022)
*Beginner Resources*
Lee Harvey Oswald, Britannica (2024) [Short biography]
JFK Files: What we're learning from newly released Kennedy assassination records, CBS News, YouTube (2022) [6 min. video]
Kennedy Assassination Timeline, The Sixth Floor Museum (n.d.) [Timeline of events]
DEEPER DIVE
Books
The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government, D. Talbot (Harper Perennial, 2016)
JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, J. W. Douglass (Touchstone, 2010)
Our Man in Mexico: Winston Scott and the Hidden History of the CIA, J. Morley (University Press of Kansas, 2008)
Primary Sources
President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act (1992)
Select Committee on Assassinations Report (1978)
Warren Commission Report (1964)
LBJ Address to Congress (1963)
Interrogation of Lee Harvey Oswald (1963)
JFK Autopsy Report (1963)
The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection
*Wildcard Resource*
Test how you would do in Kennedy’s shoes by playing 13 Days: The Cuban Missile Crisis, 1962 – A two-player board game that tests your quick-thinking strategy and conflict resolution skills.
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Summary
Jefferson Morley and Mark Zaid join Andrew in a debate over the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Mark and Jeff are longtime friends and colleagues with very different viewpoints of what truly happened on November 22nd, 1963.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
The lasting questions surrounding the Kennedy assassination
Lee Harvey Oswald’s intelligence connections
The Warren Commission and the JFK Assassination Records
The strangest theories Mark and Jeff have heard, and the most plausible explanations of who killed President Kennedy
Reflections
Public distrust and the search for truth
Reactions and responses to tragedy
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
”That's why I think they probably have something to hide. Because it doesn't make sense otherwise … If they had access to that kind of straightforward story, we would get that.” – Jefferson Morley.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
The Skinny on American Intelligence & the Law with D.C. “Super Lawyer” Mark Zaid (2024)
Rise of Devils: The Origins of Modern Terrorism with James Crossland (2024)
Havana Syndrome – A Panel featuring Nicky Woolf, Marc Polymeropoulos, and Mark Zaid (2023)
The Past 75 Years with Historian of the CIA Rhodri Jeffreys-Jones (2022)
*Beginner Resources*
Lee Harvey Oswald, Britannica (2024) [Short biography]
JFK Files: What we're learning from newly released Kennedy assassination records, CBS News, YouTube (2022) [6 min. video]
Kennedy Assassination Timeline, The Sixth Floor Museum (n.d.) [Timeline of events]
DEEPER DIVE
Books
The Devil's Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America's Secret Government, D. Talbot (Harper Perennial, 2016)
JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters, J. W. Douglass (Touchstone, 2010)
Our Man in Mexico: Winston Scott and the Hidden History of the CIA, J. Morley (University Press of Kansas, 2008)
Primary Sources
President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act (1992)
Select Committee on Assassinations Report (1978)
Warren Commission Report (1964)
LBJ Address to Congress (1963)
Interrogation of Lee Harvey Oswald (1963)
JFK Autopsy Report (1963)
The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection
*Wildcard Resource*
Test how you would do in Kennedy’s shoes by playing 13 Days: The Cuban Missile Crisis, 1962 – A two-player board game that tests your quick-thinking strategy and conflict resolution skills.
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SummaryHenry Hemming (X, Website) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the case of Frank Hegarty, a British spy operating within the IRA. Henry is a bestselling espionage author. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceEspionage and the role of MI5 within the TroublesThe story of Frank Hegarty, a British spy working in DerryFreddie Scappaticci, or Stakeknife, and Operation KenovaThe moral implications of spyingReflections Sacrifice, risk, and trustThe nuances of conflict And much, much more …Quotes of the Week“This is where it becomes, morally, much more complex. What’s difficult … is that most of the handlers who were faced with these decisions didn't have adequate training. They didn't know what the law said. They didn't know exactly what the limits were to what they could and could not do … And suddenly, as we're beginning to find out, mistakes were made.” – Henry Hemming. Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCasts*Irish Garda Intelligence Chief with Assistant Commissioner Michael McElgunn (2023) Espionage and the Two Queens with Kent Tiernan (2023)The IRA, The Troubles & Intelligence with Eleanor Williams and Thomas Leahy (2022)*Beginner Resources*Why is Ireland Divided? History Matters, YouTube (2022) [3 min. video]What You Need to Know About The Troubles, Imperial War Museum (n.d.) [Short article] A Brief History of Ireland, T. Lambert, Local Histories (n.d.) [Short article] DEEPER DIVEBooksStakeknife's Dirty War: The Inside Story of Scappaticci, the IRA’s Nutting Squad, and the British Spooks who Ran the War, R. O’Rawe (Merrion Press, 2023)The Intelligence War against the IRA, T. Leahy (Cambridge University Press, 2020)Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland, P. Radden Keefe (Anchor, 2020)Primary Sources Operation Kenova Interim Report (2024)Report of the Bloody Sunday Inquiry (2010)The Good Friday Agreement (1998)The Anglo-Irish Agreement (1985)IRA Green Book (1977) Guerrilla Warfare Handbook for IRA Volunteers (1956)*Wildcard Resource*Much of the events mentioned in this week’s episode take place in Derry, or Londonderry, Northern Ireland. Check out one of Erin’s favorite TV shows, Derry Girls – It tells the story of a young group of friends growing up in Derry during the Troubles. The town loved the show so much, they erected a mural to immortalize the five fictional friends that represented so many of their own upbringings in Derry.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Summary
Brett Forrest and Warren Strobel join Andrew to discuss reporting intelligence. Brett and Warren are national security reporters for The Wall Street Journal.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
The intelligence learning curve
Stories from the front lines of modern conflicts and critical moments
The unique challenges that come with reporting on intelligence, and ...
The risks, including being a target of espionage
Reflections
Privacy and protection
The power, and danger, of sharing information
And much, much more …
Episode Notes
This week on SpyCast, Andrew was joined in the studio by Brett Forrest and Warren Strobel, intelligence correspondents at the Wall Street Journal. As SpyCast listeners will know, issues of intelligence and espionage are constantly going on all around us – But how does the public stay in the know and up to date on the latest cases and news from around the world? Well, that's where these two come in.
Quotes of the Week
“It's about knocking on every possible door that you can imagine, that you can come up with, that you can dig up. And, all you're hoping for is one of those doors to open. You know, you knock on a hundred doors, you get 99 doors to open. You just want that one door to open because that's where the information is. That's where the source is. So, I don't know if I would call that luck, I would call that persistence.” - Brett Forrest
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
Zelensky, Ukraine, and Intelligence with Simon Shuster (2024)
China’s Corporate Spy War with CNBC’s Eamon Javers (2023)
My Life Looking at Spies & the Media with Paul Lashmar (2021)
The Women of NatSec Journalism – 6 Leading Journalists (2017)
*Beginner Resources*
A Brief History of Journalism in America, M. A. McIntosh, Brewminate (2022) [Short article]
A History of The Wall Street Journal, G. Hughes, Historic Newspapers (2021) [Short article]
What Is Journalism and Why Does it Matter? CTRL-F, YouTube (2018) [3 min. Video]
DEEPER DIVE
Books
Spies, Spin and the Fourth Estate, P. Lashmar (EUP, 2021)
Spies and the Media in Britain, R. Norton-Taylor (IBT, 2018)
Spinning Intelligence, R. Dover and M. Goodman (CUP, 2009)
Articles
How Cuba Recruits Spies to Penetrate Inner Circles of the U.S. Government, B. Forrest & W. Strobel, The Wall Street Journal (2024)
Reporters who covered U.S. invasion of Iraq reflect on impact of war, N. Schifrin & Z. Warsi, PBS News (2023)
Russian Spy or Ukrainian Hero? The Strange Death of Denys Kiryeyev, B. Forrest, The Wall Street Journal (2023)
In Ukraine, New Reports of War Crimes Emerge as Russians Retreat From Kyiv Area, B. Forrest, The Wall Street Journal (2022)
Questioning the Case for War, C. A. Preble, CATO Institute (2018)
CIA Intercepts Underpin Assessment Saudi Crown Prince Targeted Khashoggi, W. Strobel, The Wall Street Journal (2018)
Video
Lost Son with Brett Forrest, International Spy Museum, YouTube (2023)
Ukrainians in Bucha reflect on horrors and brutality suffered at hands of Russian forces, PBS News (2023)
Primary Sources
It is time to do everything to make the war crimes of the Russian military the last manifestation of this evil on earth - address by the President of Ukraine (2022)
UN Report on the Killing of Civilians in Ukraine (2022)
McClatchy (Knight Ridder) Iraq Intelligence Archive (2001-2007)
Reporting the War (2005)
*Wildcard Resource*
Shock and Awe (2017)
Starring James Marsden as Warren Strobel!
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SummaryGeneral Frank McKenzie (Biography, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss his new book, The Melting Point. General McKenzie was the 14th commander of the United States Central Command. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceCombatant commands and their purposeLeading CENTCOM, Central CommandThe role of intelligence in military leadership The US withdrawal from AfghanistanReflections Learning from the lessons of history The importance and impact of leadership And much, much more …Quotes of the Week“What that leads you to is really, intelligence. It paints that picture and it describes the operational environment within which you can operate. So here's the risk. If you're an aggressive commander … There's a temptation to lean on intelligence to tell you what you want to hear, shape the information … In the back of your mind, you need to recognize, you can't go into it with what I would call confirmation bias.” – General Frank McKenzie.Resources SURFACE SKIM*Spotlight Resource* The Melting Point: High Command and War in the 21st Century, Kenneth F. McKenzie (Naval Institute Press, 2024)*SpyCasts*CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta (2024)David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence with the former CIA Director & 4* General (2023)Intelligence, Special Operations, and Strategy with Michael Vickers (2023)Irregular Warfare & Intelligence with IWC Director Dennis Walters (2023)*Beginner Resources*CENTCOM, Encyclopaedia Britannica (2024) [Encyclopedia entry]Why the Middle East is so important to the US, BBC World Service, YouTube (2024) [10 min. video]Combatant Commands, U.S. Department of Defense (n.d.) [Brief overviews of the 11 Unified Combatant Commands]DEEPER DIVEPrimary Sources Retirement Ceremony Honors CENTCOM Commander (2022)U.S. Central Command Statement on the Realignment of the State of Israel (2021)Memorandum Re: January 2020 Airstrike in Iraq Against Qassem Soleimani (2020)Agreement for Bringing Peace to Afghanistan (2020)Remarks by President Trump on the Death of ISIS Leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (2019) Goldwater-Nichols Act (1986)*Wildcard Resource*Letter from Abraham Lincoln to Ulysses S. Grant (1863)In this famous letter, Lincoln congratulates Major General Grant on his leadership during the Siege of Vicksburg, a critical success for the Union army. Perhaps not often done by a president, Lincoln here admits his strategy was wrong, and praises the intellect and military prowess of Grant. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Summary
An expert panel of world leaders gathered at the International Spy Museum to discuss the importance of NATO today and in the future. Panelists included former Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, Latvian President Edgars Rinkēvičs, among others.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
Threats facing Baltic countries, including Russia
The importance of NATO support for Ukraine
Maintaining stability during political turmoil
NATO’s growth and where it still needs to evolve in the 21st century
Reflections
The power of global partnerships
The impact of honest leadership
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“In the old days, NATO was kind of a place where everybody did their talking points and then left. But for the first time in a very long time, NATO is more than just a forum. It is a security alliance that is very important to protecting world peace.” – Leon Panetta.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
Zelensky, Ukraine & Intelligence with Simon Shuster (2024)
CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta (2024)
Ukraine & the Alliance with NATO’s Assistant Secretary General for Intelligence David Cattler (2023)
NATO’s Assistant Secretary General for Intelligence & Security with David Cattler (2022)
*Beginner Resources*
Why are the Baltic states strategically important for NATO? A. Sytas, Reuters (2023) [Short article]
Ukraine conflict: Simple visual guide to the Russian invasion, BBC (2022) [Short article]
The Formation of NATO and the Warsaw Pact | History, YouTube (2017) [3 min. video]
DEEPER DIVE
Primary Sources
Statement by the North Atlantic Council on recent Russian hybrid activities (2024)
Joint letter to DoD for Urgent Ukraine Aid (2024)
Address by the President to Ukrainians at the end of the first day of Russia's attacks (2022)
Statement by the North Atlantic Council on the situation at the Poland-Belarus border (2021)
Protocol to the North Atlantic Treaty on the Accession of the Republic of Estonia (2003)
Protocol to the North Atlantic Treaty on the accession of the Republic of Latvia (2003)
Protocol to the North Atlantic Treaty on the accession of the Republic of Lithuania (2003)
The North Atlantic Treaty (1949)
*Wildcard Resource*
Our international panelists in this week’s episode hail from the beautiful countries of Latvia, Estonia, and Croatia. To learn more about the history and culture of these countries, take virtual tours of their national museums or libraries here:
Hrvatski povijesni muzej, Croatian History Museum
Latvijas Nacionālā bibliotēka, National Library of Latvia
Eesti Rahva Muuseum, Estonian National Museum
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SummaryCamille Stewart Gloster (X, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss her career in cyber. Camille was the first Deputy National Cyber Director for Technology & Ecosystem for the White House. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceThe intersections between technology and lawThe origins of the cyber threatThe importance of cyber educationBuilding a diverse cyber workforceReflections Challenging narratives and normsStrategic educationAnd much, much more …Quotes of the Week“Another part of the problem is having a conversation where people understand that they do a lot of this work every day. Honing those skills and being intentional about them and then applying them to a career means a transition from a hobby to something more concrete. And that narrative piece of making cybersecurity not seem so overwhelming is a big part of the work as well.” – Camille Stewart Gloster. Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCasts*Indian Intelligence & Cyber – A Conversation with Sameer Patil, ORF Mumbai (2023)Espionage and the Metaverse with Cathy Hackl (2023)The FBI & Cyber with Cyber Division Chief Bryan Vorndran (Part 1 of 2) (2022)The FBI & Cyber with Cyber Division Chief Bryan Vorndran (Part 2 of 2) (2022)Trafficking Data: The Digital Struggle with China with Aynne Kokas (2022)*Beginner Resources*What is Cybersecurity? CISA (2021) [Short article]What is Cyber? Marketing Business Network, YouTube (2019) [2 min. video]Why Is Cybersecurity Important? CompTIA (n.d.) [Short article]DEEPER DIVEPrimary Sources 2024 Report on the Cybersecurity Posture of the United States (2024)National Cyber Workforce and Education Strategy: Initial Stages of Implementation (2024)Executive Order on Preventing Access to Americans’ Bulk Sensitive Personal Data and United States Government-Related Data by Countries of Concern (2024)National Cybersecurity Strategy (2023)National Cybersecurity Strategy Implementation Plan (2023)National Cyber Workforce and Education Strategy (2023)CHIPS Act (2022)Executive Order on Improving the Nation’s Cybersecurity (2021)*Wildcard Resource*Test your cybersecurity awareness with this #BeCyberSmart crossword from the Center for Development of Security Excellence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Summary
Michael Collins joins Andrew to discuss the National Intelligence Council. Michael is the NIC’s current acting chair.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
The role of the National Intelligence Council
National Intelligence Officers and their work around the world
The products of the NIC, including the Annual Threat Assessment
The importance of Intelligence Diplomacy and objective analysis
Reflections
The power of collaboration
Staying grounded and optimistic
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“In the analytic product, the first paragraph says: Here's the bad thing. Second paragraph says: This is what the bad thing means for the United States. Third paragraph is: What can be done to stop the bad thing, or more importantly, to identify an opportunity. I have to be optimistic. If I weren't, I wouldn't be in this job.” – Michael Collins.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
Telling Americans About China (and Intelligence) with Sara Castro (2024)
CIA Director, Defense Secretary, Gentleman with Leon Panetta (2024)
The Past 75 Years with Historian of the CIA Rhodri Jeffreys-Jones (2022)
The National Intelligence University with its President Scott Cameron (2022)
*Beginner Resources*
America’s Intelligence Community, Explained, Washington Post, YouTube (2014) [2 min. video]
What is Intelligence Analysis and Why is It So Important? National American University (n.d.) [Short article]
Members of the IC, Office of the Director of National Intelligence (n.d.) [List of agencies]
DEEPER DIVE
Primary Sources
2024 Annual Threat Assessment (2024)
IC OSINT Strategy 2024-2026 (2024)
2023 National Intelligence Strategy (2023)
Updated Assessment of Anomalous Health Incidents (2023)
Global Trends 2040 (2021)
National Intelligence Estimates on Climate Change (2021)
*Wildcard Resource*
This week’s guest shares a name with another intelligence professional: Michael Collins (1890-1922), a prominent leader of Irish independence.
You may remember this Michael Collins from his involvement in the 1916 Easter Rising, but did you know he was also the Director of Intelligence for the Irish Republican Army? Check out some of “The Squad’s” spy gadgets and artifacts here.
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Summary
Jason Barlow (X; Biography) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the iconic James Bond vehicles. Jason is the longstanding editor-at-large at Top Gear.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
How the “Bond car” phenomenon came to be
Ian Fleming’s love for cars
The different “nationalities” of Bond cars
What it’s like to be behind the wheel of some of these iconic cars
Reflections
The making of pop culture
The “personality” of cars
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“Something strange happens in popular culture, where worlds kind of collide and cars assume these sorts of statuses far in excess of what they're actually doing in the movies. I find it fascinating as a process. Nobody can predict how these things are going to go and it's wonderful when these things do happen.” – Jason Barlow.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*Spotlight Resource*
Bond Cars: The Definitive History, Jason Barlow (BBC Books, 2021)
*SpyCasts*
The Real Ian Fleming with Nicholas Shakespeare (2024)
The James Bond Collector with Mike VanBlaricum (2024)
Bond After Fleming, the Continuation of an Icon with Mark Edlitz (2023)
70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007 (Part 1 of 2) (2023)
70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007 (Part 2 of 2) (2023)
*Beginner Resources*
A Complete List of James Bond Cars, J. Osborn, Man of Many (2023) [List of cars]
Aston Martin DB5 and 007 - A Special Bond, Aston Martin, YouTube (2021) [1 min. video]
Why are cars interesting anyway? R. Meester, Medium (2021) [Short article]
DEEPER DIVE
Cars Mentioned
Aston Martin DB5
AMC Hornet
Mustang Mach 1
Lotus Esprit
Aston Martin V8
Toyota 2000GT
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish
BMW 750iL
*Wildcard Resource*
“Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz …”
We’ve now firmly established that film can immortalize cars for decades to come. Well, it’s the same in music – Think “Little Red Corvette” by Prince, or “Ol’ 55” by Tom Waits. Perhaps one of the most iconic cars in music is Janis Joplin’s 1964 psychedelic Porsche, now remembered fondly through her 1971 song “Mercedes Benz.”
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Laura Hicken (LinkedIn) and Lauren vonBechmann (LinkedIn) join Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the collection of the International Spy Museum. SPY’s collection consists of 10,000 espionage-related artifacts.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
The ins and outs of getting into the museum field
Why Museums?
SPYs largest, smallest, and coolest artifacts
The challenges of being a “spy” museum
Reflections
Following your passions
A dedication to lifelong learning and teaching
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“It's that ability to give accessibility to our audiences so that they can see like parts of history – So it's not only to preserve it, but it's so that people can see it as well. That's what we want to provide – A place for people to see the unseen.” – Lauren vonBechmann.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
The James Bond Collector with Mike VanBlaricum (2024)
The Most Famous Art Detective in the World with ex-FBI Legend Robert Wittman (2023)
Secrets Revealed – Curators Alexis and Andrew on SPY’s Pop-Up Exhibit (2023)
SPY@20 – “The Spy of the Century” – Curators Alexis and Andrew on Kim Philby (2022)
*Beginner Resources*
A look at the International Spy Museum in Washington D.C., FOX 5 Washington DC, YouTube (2023) [5 min. video]
About the Collection, International Spy Museum (n.d.) [Short article]
Collections Management, American Alliance of Museums (n.d.) [Short article]
DEEPER DIVE
Artifacts
James Bond's Omega Seamaster Diver 300M Watch (2021)
Primo’s Bionic Eye (2021)
Clock with Concealed Receiver (1970s)
Disguise Kit (1960s)
Berlin Tunnel Segment (1954-1956)
Four Rotor Enigma Machine (1943-1944)
Sleeping Beauty Submersible (1943)
George Washington Spy Letters (1777)
*Wildcard Resource*
Here’s something many don’t know about the International Spy Museum:
On the side of our building, built in 2019, is a secret message written in binary code. Can You Crack the Code?
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SummaryDennis Eger (LinkedIn) and Shawn Nilius (LinkedIn) join Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss open-source intelligence. Combined, the two have over six decades of service to the U.S. Army. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceWhat is Open-Source Intelligence How the US Army utilizes and collects OSINT OSINT across the Intelligence CommunityHow OSINT has impacted the War in UkraineReflections The power of information and how you use itCyber ethicsAnd much, much more …Quotes of the Week“If [civilians are] taking a video and posting it, they become in the cycle … The amount of things that people do on the internet that leaves their data or their information out there – Their data becomes big part of the intelligence cycle and they probably don't even know that they're doing it.” – Dennis Eger. Resources SURFACE SKIM*SpyCasts*My Life in American Intelligence with Barry Zulauf (2023)Intelligence, Special Operations, and Strategy with Michael Vickers (2023)Ukraine & the Alliance with NATO’s Assistant Secretary General for Intelligence David Cattler (2023)Irregular Warfare & Intelligence with IWC Director Dennis Walters (2023)*Beginner Resources*A Brief History of the US Army, R. Guina, The Military Wallet (2024) [Short article]What is Open-Source Intelligence? OSINT Dojo, YouTube (2023) [7 min. video]A Brief History of Open Source Intelligence, C. Colquhoun, Bellingcat (2016) [Short article]DEEPER DIVEBooksOSINT Techniques: Resources for Uncovering Online Information, M. Bazzell (2023) Deep Dive: Exploring the Real-world Value of Open Source Intelligence, R. L. Baker (Wiley, 2023)Open Source Intelligence Methods and Tools: A Practical Guide to Online Intelligence, N. A. Hassan & R. Hijazi (Apress, 2018) Primary Sources The IC OSINT Strategy (2024) Invasion of Ukraine on Google Maps (2022)Ethical Frameworks in Open-Source Intelligence (2022) Open-Source Intelligence, Department of the Army (2012) Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act (2004) *Wildcard Resource*While OSINT may seem like the new kid on the intelligence block, its foundations have actually been around perhaps longer than any other -INT.During the Civil War, the Bureau of Military Information collected open-source information from Southern newspapers to track the Confederate army. Check out this letter from Abraham Lincoln citing intelligence gathered on the location of Southern troops. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Summary
Andrew Hodges (Website, Wikipedia) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the life and work of Alan Turing. Andrew is an emeritus senior research fellow of mathematics at the University of Oxford.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
Turing’s early foundations for artificial intelligence
Interwar cryptanalysis
Bletchley Park, Hut 8, and British Naval Intelligence
The mechanics of the Bombe machine
Reflections
Legacy changing alongside social history
The weight and pressure of genius
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“Everything that you do with the digital, everything that we're doing now through these computers, flows from his perceptions. And that in turn came through his practical experience during the Second World War on breaking the enemy codes.” – Andrew Hodges .
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*SpyCasts*
The Real Ian Fleming with Nicholas Shakespeare (2024)
ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL: “The D-Day Deception” – with National WWII Museum Curator Corey Graff (2023)
Hitler’s Trojan Horse – Nazi Intelligence with Nigel West (2023)
How Artificial Intelligence is Changing the Spy Game with Mike Susong (2023)
*Beginner Resources*
Alan Turing, B.J. Copeland, Britannica (2024) [Short biography]
How Did the Enigma Machine Work? Science Museum Group, YouTube (2019) [2 min. video]
How Alan Turing Cracked the Enigma Code, Imperial War Museum (n.d.) [Short article]
DEEPER DIVE
Books
The Codebreakers of Bletchley Park, J. D. Turing (Arcturus, 2020)
Turing’s Vision: The Birth of Computer Science, C. Bernhardt (MIT Press, 2017)
Alan Turing: The Enigma, A. Hodges (Burnett Books/Hutchinson, 1983)
Primary Sources
Alan Turing Obituary and Tributes (1954)
Can digital computers think? (1951)
Computing Machinery and Intelligence (1950)
Proposed electronic calculator (1946)
Turing’s Treatise on the Enigma (1939-1942)
On Computable Numbers (1936)
*Wildcard Resource*
Alan Turing’s School Report Card
Didn’t do very well in high school? Neither did Alan Turing. Amongst hopeful comments about his promising skills in mathematics, teachers noted Turing’s carelessness and severe lack of neatness in his work.
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SummarySimon Shuster (X, Website) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Ukraine. Simon is a senior correspondent at TIME. What You’ll LearnIntelligenceZelenskyy’s career pre-PresidencyReactions to the 2022 Russian invasionUkrainian public opinion of ZelenskyyZelenskyy’s relationship with Ukrainian intelligence Reflections Contagious courage Leadership styles, techniques, and unique skillsAnd much, much more …Quotes of the Week“In researching [Zelenskyy’s] transformations as a person from comedian to politician to wartime leader, I also thought a lot about what qualities have remained consistent in him. And one of them for sure is this kind of, “go get ‘em” confidence … He just has this abiding confidence in his own ability to think on his feet, to not lose his balance, to just go into a new and unfamiliar space or a set of challenges and wing it, so to say.” – Simon Schuster Resources SURFACE SKIM*Spotlight Resource* The Showman : Inside the Invasion That Shook the World and Made a Leader of Volodymyr Zelensky, Simon Shuster (William Morrow, 2024)*SpyCasts*David Petraeus on Ukraine & Intelligence with the former CIA Director & 4* General (2023) Spies: The Epic Intelligence War Between East vs. West with Calder Walton (2023)Ukraine & the Alliance with NATO’s Assistant Secretary General for Intelligence David Cattler (2023)Ukraine & Intelligence: One Year On with Shane Harris (2023)*Beginner Resources*What to know about Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, I. Pereira & P. Reevell, ABC News (2022) [Short article]A Brief History of Modern Ukraine, BBC, YouTube (2022) [3 min. video]Ukraine conflict: Simple visual guide to the Russian invasion, BBC (2022) [Short article]DEEPER DIVEBooksOur Enemies Will Vanish: The Russian Invasion and Ukraine's War of Independence, Y. Trofimov (Penguin Press, 2024) Conflict: The Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine, D. Petraeus & A. Roberts (Harper, 2023) The Gates of Europe: A History of Ukraine, S. Plokhy (Basic Books, 2021)Primary Sources All Intelligence Agencies of Our Partners are Informed of the Current Threats and Prospects – Address by the President (2024)Freedom must always prevail when challenged – speech by the President of Ukraine at the National Defense University of the United States (2023)Address by the President: Ukrainians are a symbol of invincibility (2022)Address by the President to Ukrainians at the end of the first day of Russia's attacks (2022) Constitution of Ukraine (1996)Act of Declaration of the Independence of Ukraine (1991)Act of Proclamation of Ukrainian Statehood (1941)Ukrainian Proclamation of Independence (1917)*Wildcard Resource*As Simon mentioned in this episode, President Zelenskyy won the Ukrainian version of one of Erin’s favorite shows, Dancing With The Stars, in 2006. Watch some of his winning dances with partner Olena Shoptenko here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Summary
Nicholas Shakespeare (X; Website) joins Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss the life and legacy of Ian Fleming. Nicholas is an award-winning novelist and biographer.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
Fleming’s family and upbringing
Debunking misconceptions about Fleming’s character
Fleming’s career in intelligence
British Naval Intelligence operations during WWII
Reflections
Life influencing literature
The lasting impact of storytelling
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
“Whatever the ingredients of Bond – As a kind of, both a hero of modernization, but also as a symbol of retrospective power – The films have allowed this protean creature to exist in the future, in the present, and so that almost all over the world, the words, the names “Bond, James Bond” will ignite a smile.” – Nicholas Shakespeare.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*Spotlight Resource*
Ian Fleming: The Complete Man, Nicholas Shakespeare (Harper, 2024)
*SpyCasts*
Bond After Fleming, the Continuation of an Icon with Mark Edlitz (2024)
The James Bond Collector with Mike VanBlaricum (2024)
70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 1 of 2 (2023)
70th Anniversary of James Bond, Special with Alexis Albion on 007, Part 2 of 2 (2023)
*Beginner Resources*
Ian Fleming – Life Story, Short Biographies, YouTube (2023) [8 min. video]
List of Books by Ian Fleming, Barnes and Noble (n.d.) [List of literary works]
Ian Fleming Life Timeline, Ian Fleming Publications (n.d.) [Timeline]
DEEPER DIVE
Books
Ian Fleming’s War: The Inspiration for 007, M. Simmons (Rare Bird Books, 2021)
The Man with the Golden Typewriter: Ian Fleming's James Bond Letters, ed. F. Fleming (Bloomsbury, 2016)
The Life of Ian Fleming, J. Pearson (Jonathan Cape, 1966)
Primary Sources
Diana Rigg Obituary (2020)
Ian Fleming about James Bond and himself (1964)
Our Spy-Boss Who Loved Bond by Allen Dulles (1964)
Allen Dulles and Ian Fleming (1964)
Operation “Mincemeat” Brief (1943)
Postagram Concerning Operation Mincemeat (1943)
Valentine Fleming Eulogy by Winston Churchill (1917)
*Wildcard Resource*
Spymaker: The Secret Life of Ian Fleming (1990)
A TV movie that stars Jason Connery as Ian Fleming. Jason Connery is the son of Sean Connery – the first actor to portray James Bond in film.
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John Blaxland (X, LinkedIn) and Clare Birgin (Wikipedia, LinkedIn) join Andrew (X; LinkedIn) to discuss Australian codebreaking. John and Clare are coauthors of the new book Revealing Secrets.
What You’ll Learn
Intelligence
The importance of SIGINT
Codebreaking in Australian intelligence
Australia’s role in WWII and the Cold War
The advent and evolution of cyber
Reflections
Strategic defense and offense
The power, and danger, of communication
And much, much more …
Quotes of the Week
"What I've noticed with the Australians, and I think it's similar in the other the other Five Eyes countries, these people tend to be quite patriotic to do [Signals Intelligence]. They want to, they love their country, and it also seems to preserve very good qualities.” -Clare Birgin.
Resources
SURFACE SKIM
*Spotlight Resource*
Revealing Secrets: An unofficial history of Australian Signals intelligence and the advent of cyber, Clare Birgin and John Blaxland (University of New South Wales Press, 2023)
*SpyCasts*
I Helped Solve the Final Zodiac Killer Cipher with David Oranchak (2024)
Australian National Day Special: Intelligence Down Under with John Blaxland (2024)
My Father the Navajo Code-Talker with Laura Tohe (2023)
CYBER AUGUST: “So, You Want to Be a Codebreaker?” with Elonka Dunin and Klaus Schmeh (2021)
*Beginner Resources*
Australia's Involvement in WWII, Australian Broadcasting Service, YouTube (2020) [4 min. video]
A short history of cyber espionage, D. O’Brien, Medium (2017) [Short article]
Signals Intelligence (SINGINT) Overview, National Security Agency (n.d.) [Short article]
DEEPER DIVE
Primary Sources
WMD Report (2005)
The ANZUS Treaty (1951)
Role and effectiveness of Signals Intelligence in World War II (1945)
The Atlantic Charter (1941)
The Zimmerman Telegram (1917)
Oral History by Ruby Boye Jones (n.d.)
*Wildcard Resource*
Here’s a challenge – For their 75th Anniversary in 2022, the Australian Signals Directorate released a limited edition coin with multiple layers of code to crack on both sides.
Think you can solve it? Check out the link above and test your code-cracking skills.
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