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  • What does accessibility mean for your business, and how can you prepare for the upcoming changes?

    In this episode, Jason Baum and Marcus Merrell are joined by AmyJune Hineline from the Linux Foundation to discuss the upcoming European Accessibility Act and how it will shape the future of digital products. With the deadline approaching in 2025, they cover what steps companies should take to ensure their platforms are accessible to everyone.

    You’ll hear AmyJune’s experiences advocating for the deaf and hard-of-hearing community and learn about the impact of accessibility on user experience and business outcomes. She also shares the benefits of inclusive design, real user testing, and the potential consequences for businesses that don’t comply with the new regulations.

    Join us as we discuss:

    (00:00) The role of accessibility in tech

    (03:30) The European Accessibility Act

    (06:20) Accessibility for all users

    (10:30) Defining disabilities in the digital world

    (12:30) Standards and compliance challenges

    (15:50) How accessibility opens new markets and boosts customer loyalty

    (17:50) The importance of real-world user testing for accessibility

    (20:00) Shifting company culture towards accessibility integration

    (25:20) Enforcement of accessibility laws and the future of compliance


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  • When software fails, what does it actually cost?

    In this episode, Jason Baum and Marcus Merrell are joined by Veronika Takmazyan, Senior Manager of Quality Engineering at Salesforce, and Chris Wallander, Principal SDET and Test Automation Architect at Taxwell, to tackle the complex issue of ensuring quality across the Software Development Life Cycle (SDLC).

    Throughout the conversation, they touch on the importance of integrating testing at every stage of development and why quality must be a shared responsibility. You’ll also learn the practical challenges teams face when quality is not prioritized from the start, and how continuous testing can mitigate costly software failures.


    Join us as we discuss:

    (00:00) Intro

    (04:09) What are the costs of software failures?

    (10:45) Why is it so challenging to produce quality software?

    (15:27) Whose responsibility is quality?

    (19:08) Is there a need for a Chief Quality Officer?

    (22:42) Why integrate test across the SDLC?

    (28:00) Balancing developer workloads and quality assurance

    (05:05) How to navigate the complexities of automation

    (10:28) Balancing the drive for quality with the need for simplicity in CI/CD

    (16:01) The role of AI in software development

    (18:48) The impact of speed vs. quality

    (22:26) The breaking point for when speed overtakes quality

    (26:41) Handling high traffic at Indeed and addressing technical debt


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  • What does it really mean to shift left, and are we overburdening our developers in the process?

    In this episode, Jason Baum, Marcus Merrell, and Evelyn Coleman sit down with David Morgenthaler, a Software Engineering Manager at Indeed, to explore the real-world implications of shift-left testing. Together, they dissect the challenges of integrating continuous quality into CI/CD workflows and the potential pitfalls of placing more responsibility on developers' shoulders.

    You’ll learn how tools like static analysis and AI are reshaping the software testing landscape, and whether they truly simplify or complicate the developer's day-to-day. With practical examples, they examine the fine balance between speed and quality in software delivery. Listen to discover how Indeed is navigating these challenges and what it means for the future of software testing.


    Join us as we discuss:

    (00:00) Continuous quality from theory to practice

    (03:21) How shift left is changing development

    (05:05) How to navigate the complexities of automation

    (10:28) Balancing the drive for quality with the need for simplicity in CI/CD

    (16:01) The role of AI in software development

    (18:48) The impact of speed vs. quality

    (22:26) The breaking point for when speed overtakes quality

    (26:41) Handling high traffic at Indeed and addressing technical debt


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  • Struggling to keep up with the relentless stream of notifications? You're not alone.

    In this episode of Test Case Scenario, Jason Baum and Marcus Merrell explore the impact of alert fatigue and signal overload on productivity and quality.

    You’ll hear them draw from their own experiences and share real-world stories to highlight how constant alerts can disrupt workflow. They offer practical strategies to cut through the noise and focus on what’s important. Throughout the conversation, they also examine the delicate balance between meeting tight deadlines and maintaining high standards and how software quality directly affects customer satisfaction.

    Join us for an insightful and lively conversation filled with tips to help you manage the chaos of software development and testing, ensuring you stay efficient and keep your standards high.

    Want more content on signal fatigue? Check out this article from Jason: https://thenewstack.io/overcoming-software-testing-alert-fatigue/

    Join us as we discuss:
    (00:00) Intro
    (02:08) Alert fatigue and its impact on productivity
    (04:07) How constant alerts disrupt workflow
    (07:15) Strategies for managing and reducing unnecessary notifications
    (10:20) Balancing tight deadlines with maintaining quality
    (12:55) Affects of poor software quality on customer satisfaction
    (15:35) Effective alert management practices
    (19:50) Actionable tips for developers and testers

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  • What happens when a global outage reveals the cracks in our testing processes?

    In this episode of Test Case Scenario, Jason Baum, Titus Fortner, and Marcus Merrell dissect the recent CrowdStrike incident that sent shockwaves across the world. They dive into the incident report, uncovering the key failures and oversights that led to the outage.

    You'll learn about the systemic issues in current testing methodologies, questioning whether shift-left testing genuinely enhances software quality or places an unrealistic burden on developers. Through these examples, you’ll hear how small missteps can lead to significant consequences. Tune in to understand the complexities of modern software testing and how to safeguard against major system failures in the future.

    Join us as we discuss:
    (00:00) Preliminary post-incident review on the global outage
    (06:10) Importance of understanding and testing configurations
    (11:27) What is shift-left testing and its limitations
    (13:52) Differences between unit tests and integration tests
    (16:06) Risks of removing QA teams and relying solely on developers
    (18:56) Evaluating risk profiles and writing appropriate tests
    (19:53) QA's role at the decision-making table
    (21:23) Understand the critical risks that can end a company
    (22:42) The pitfalls of coverage metrics in QA
    (25:03) The hidden dangers of overlooked bugs and incomplete testing

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  • Ever wondered what it's like to have a virtual robot in your toolkit, a trojan horse in your test scripts, or a lil' rockstar named Selenium? Welcome to the world of test automation, as unfolded by none other than Jason Huggins.

    In this part 2 episode of our interview with Jason, we continue to dive into the world of testing. You’ll learn how Java and Python enthusiasts have propelled Selenium to global fame with impressive stats and precision, and Jason also sheds light on the power of community. Tune in to hear how collaboration turned dreams into reality through his experiences with Selenium and Sauce Labs.


    Join us as we discuss:

    00:00 Intro
    01:43 Reverse Tron Projects and their origins
    04:24 The art and business of creating physical robots

    08:59 Current state of open source and the threats it’s facing
    13:44 The role of ethics in business decisions and open source projects

    18:42 Creating a drama-free environment for Selenium and its impact
    29:47 Contributions in the Selenium community
    38:27 Exploring cryptocurrency and its potential in distributed computing


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  • Skipping thorough testing? Here's why it's a risk you can't afford to take. On July 19, the world experienced what would be the largest tech outage worldwide. If you’re a software developer or tester, you've likely faced the frustration of a system failing right when it’s most critical. Did you know the complexity of today’s software is a significant reason behind these issues? It’s not just an occasional problem; it's a global challenge.

    Our latest episode dives deep with Nikolay Advolodkin, Jason Baum, and Marcus Merrell as they explore a major software outage that recently disrupted industries worldwide. This episode is packed with practical insights and real-world examples of how to prevent such disasters, emphasizing the critical role of quality assurance and testing processes.


    Join us as we discuss:

    00:00 CrowdStrike’s global software outage
    05:59 Kernel update’s irreparable damage
    12:42 Basic testing strategy is essential for successful software
    16:27 Top five ways to avoid being the next global outage causer
    16:42 Gradual software release for low-risk opt-ins
    17:55 Integration testing failures and their impact
    20:00 Preventing critical failures with proper version control and code quality
    21:29 The importance of cross-platform testing and prioritizing releases
    23:12 Understanding software dependencies and potential vulnerabilities
    24:48 Quality control slipping, apathy increasing, teams eliminated


    We’d love to hear from you! Share your thoughts in the comments below or at [email protected].


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  • Is everything truly broken, or is it just us?

    If you’re a software developer or tester, you've probably felt the frustration of a system not working as it should, right when you need it the most. Did you know the complexity of today’s software is a key reason behind these gripes? It's not just your typical Monday annoyance; it's a worldwide phenomenon.

    Our latest episode takes you on an insightful ride with Jason Huggins, a trailblazer in the world of test automation, as he recounts experiences from the frontlines, including his crucial work on healthcare.gov. It’s a story laced with humor, sobering realism, and a sprinkle of optimism.

    Join us as we discuss:
    00:00 Jason Huggins - Tapster Robotics founder, Selenium creator
    05:50 Is all software actually broken?
    07:32 Browser issues and Twitter troubles
    14:11 Obama’s presidency greatly affected by a broken website
    19:30 Software decisions affect the next generation
    26:01 Continuous work leads to breakdown without leadership

    We’d love to hear from you!


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  • Pushing your code to production without testing? You might want to think twice.

    In this episode, Bobby Dorlus, founder and CEO of #TheTechHustle, shares the importance of test automation, site reliability engineering, and his advocacy of diversity within the industry.

    Tune in as Jason and Bobby analyze the stats and real-life debacles that happen when testing gets skipped, as well as those who should be responsible for testing. Spoiler alert—it’s not just the developers.

    We’d love to hear from you! Share your thoughts in the comments below or at [email protected].

    Join as we discuss:

    06:18 Opinions on shift left in software development.

    14:51 Automated fleet management team and infrastructure reliability

    20:57 Tracking success rates and reliability of service

    27:22 Advocating for diversity and opportunities in engineering

    35:06 Building tech community and support for industry professionals

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  • Code and human connection go hand-in-hand.

    In this episode, we dive deep into the ever-evolving world of accessibility testing in web and software development. Whether you're a seasoned dev or just getting started, accessibility is your guide to creating inclusive spaces for global collaboration. But where do you start? And why does it even matter?

    Rachael Yomtoob, Product Owner of axe DevTools Mobile at Deque Systems, Inc., shares how to weave accessibility into your development process. Discover how addressing these needs early can save us all time, money, and actually improve your reach.

    We’d love to hear from you! Share your thoughts in the comments below or at [email protected].

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    06:12 Approaches to enterprise accessibility and legal consequences

    08:16 EU law BAA and WCAD guidelines explained

    14:27 Improving digital accessibility with new UI frameworks

    23:33 Product's role in tech inclusion and impact

    27:26 Organizational perspective on investing in accessibility

    28:43 Adopt tools, approach, and conversations for accessibility

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  • Open-source software is more than just code—it's a powerful tool for societal change.

    In this episode, Paloma Oliveira, Growth Engineer at Sauce Labs, shares inspiring stories of how open-source methodologies transform communities, address social issues, and foster global collaboration. From organizing impactful conferences at the UN to driving initiatives in Berlin and Baltimore, Paloma illustrates the profound impact of open source beyond the tech world. Her involvement in initiatives like the Ospo's for Good symposium, which aims to use collaborative efforts to address societal challenges on a global scale, is just one example.

    Tune in to explore the intersection of technology and social good, and learn how you can be part of this revolutionary movement.

    Join us as we discuss:

    03:58 Open source for social good
    14:40 How technology impacts society and human rights
    21:14 Addressing social challenges with open source25:53 The role of companies in supporting open source

    Resources from this episode:PyLadies: https://pyladies.com/
    OSPOs for Good 2024: https://www.un.org/techenvoy/content/ospos-good-2024

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  • Industry experts answer some of your biggest testing questions in this highlight video of our favorite moments from past episodes. From leveraging blockchain technology to testing generative UIs, they’ve got you covered.

    You’ll hear insights from these experienced leaders:

    Marcus Merrell, VP of Technology Strategy at Sauce Labs – watch the full episode with Marcus here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vkfbtwF3dQ&list=PL67l1VPxOnT7qLyCn37RmESq-luA36iIh&index=20Hanson Ho, Android Architect at Embrace – watch the full episode with Hanson here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkRqjCeYuYM&list=PL67l1VPxOnT7qLyCn37RmESq-luA36iIh&index=16Titus Fortner, Senior Developer Advocate at Sauce Labs – watch the full episode with Titus here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNIA1EYpt9o&list=PL67l1VPxOnT7qLyCn37RmESq-luA36iIh&index=36Lindsay Walker, Product Lead at Starling Lab for Data Integrity – watch the full episode with Lindsay here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vkfbtwF3dQ&list=PL67l1VPxOnT7qLyCn37RmESq-luA36iIh&index=20Karen Laiacona Frazier, Senior Director, QA at Unqork – watch the full episode with Karen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBtMp3IPjX8&list=PL67l1VPxOnT7qLyCn37RmESq-luA36iIh&index=8

    Join us as we discuss:

    00:25 Which languages developers and testers should use

    01:11 Who decides which tests are important

    02:07 How to verify digital content to avoid misinformation

    03:03 What happens when everyone uses the same version of an app

    03:56 What testing a generative UI looks like

    04:49 How white hat hackers can prevent Blockchain fraud

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  • GenAI, coding blunders to avoid, and Y2K bugs – we cover it all in this highlight video of our favorite moments from past episodes.

    You’ll hear insights from these industry leaders:

    Lindsay Walker, Product Lead at Starling Lab for Data Integrity – watch the full episode with Lindsay here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vkfbtwF3dQ&list=PL67l1VPxOnT7qLyCn37RmESq-luA36iIh&index=5Marcus Merrell, VP of Technology Strategy at Sauce Labs – watch the full episode with Marcus here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5upEVF2ub0g&list=PL67l1VPxOnT7qLyCn37RmESq-luA36iIh&index=20Mac Clark, Solutions Engineer and Game Developer Evangelist at Sauce Labs – watch the full episode with Mac here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO6L8xZ6GDs&list=PL67l1VPxOnT7qLyCn37RmESq-luA36iIh&index=23Scott McAllister, Developer Advocate at ngrok - watch the full episode with Scott here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yat9UU2FoRw Titus Fortner, Senior Developer Advocate at Sauce Labs – watch the full episode with Titus here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNIA1EYpt9o&list=PL67l1VPxOnT7qLyCn37RmESq-luA36iIh&index=36Joe Colantonio, creator of TestGuild – watch the full episode with Joe here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl3u3wWjKd8&list=PL67l1VPxOnT7qLyCn37RmESq-luA36iIh&index=26

    Join us as we discuss:

    00:27 Devin, the AI Software Engineer

    00:52 Getting hit with the Y2K bug

    01:37 Rising toxicity in gaming

    02:18 The most common coding blunder

    03:00 Why test results should lead your strategy

    04:00 AI-powered test automation

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  • Are you ready for the fastest crash course on 30 automated testing concepts?

    In less than seven minutes, you’ll learn thirty pillars of automated testing. Nikolay Advolodkin explains these ideas with easy-to-understand metaphors to help you sharpen your skills and become a testing knight.

    From regression testing to Test-Driven Development (TDD), you’ll sharpen your testing skills and be prepared to squash any bug that dares to come your way.

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  • Today’s show is bittersweet as we bid farewell to our beloved co-host, Evelyn Coleman. She’s been instrumental in shaping our conversations and challenging our perspectives. We’ll reflect on Evelyn’s impact on the podcast, share lessons from her career, and discuss the ways automated testing is about so much more than just code. Press play for an episode of insights, farewells, and of course, a little humor.

    Stay connected with Evelyn Coleman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evelyn-coleman/

    Join us as we discuss:

    02:00 Balancing value exchange in relationships

    03:00 Asking for advice

    07:30 Meeting people where they’re at

    10:00 Encouragements for testers

    12:00 Fun podcast memories

    14:45 The importance of people in testing

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  • To shift or not to shift – that is the question.

    If you’ve been around the software development world lately, you’ve likely heard of shift-left – the practice of integrating testing, security, and operations early in the software development lifecycle to detect issues early.

    This approach is meant to be a win-win-win – saving time, money, and headaches. But is it as great in practice as it sounds in theory? In this episode, we debate the real-world benefits of shift-left and get to the heart of the issue: testing well.

    Join us as we discuss:

    01:15 Defining shift-left

    02:00 Disadvantages of shift-left

    05:50 Advantages of shift-left

    06:50 Continuous testing

    08:00 No-shift testing

    11:00 The purpose of testing

    13:00 Platform engineering

    14:45 The answer to the testing debate

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  • Back in the 2000s, code lived in one execution thread. Database queries, user interactions, and data pipelines were all managed by the same processes.

    The problem? Everything was interconnected and interdependent. Fixing one thing might break another. Releases were all or nothing.

    We call this monolith hell. Your ticket out? Microservices.

    In this episode, we explain the problem with monoliths, the benefits of microservices, and risks to consider. And to make it extra fun, we’re doing it game show style. You’ll learn the pros and cons of different architecture approaches with analogies to help the information stick.

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    01:30 The problem with monolithic architecture

    05:10 Deploying microservices independently

    05:40 Sauce Orchestrate and Docker

    06:50 Managing communication between applications

    07:35 Avoiding conflicts using microservices

    10:00 Service mesh design pattern

    11:00 Drawbacks of microservices

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  • Are we in an AI bubble?

    We can't stop talking about AI in tech. It's at every conference and in every startup pitch. But is the rest of the world as enamored as we are?

    In this conversation, we explore AI’s impact beyond the echo chamber of the tech industry. We look at attitudes toward AI in other spaces, from healthcare to finance, weighing the risks and benefits of its application. We also look to the future, questioning whether we’ve reached the limits of AI given compute power constraints.

    Press play for our hot takes and share yours on social media or by emailing [email protected].

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  • Imagine a world where every piece of digital content can be verified and traced back to its source. Lindsay Walker, Product Lead at Starling Lab for Data Integrity, walks us through the emerging tools that could make this possible.

    While AI tools hold incredible potential for good, Lindsay also warns against threats and countermeasures needed to keep our virtual representations safe. She emphasizes the need to build provenance into tools, discusses blockchain use cases, and shares systems that implement hashes for security.

    Tune in to hear how the partnership between human intellect and cutting-edge technology can create a trustworthy digital society.

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  • On this thrilling LIVE session of 'Test Case Scenario' our esteemed host Jason Baum is accompanied by co-hosts Nikolay Advolodkin, Evelyn Coleman, and Marcus Merrell.

    With special guests, open-source advocates, Diego Molina, Christian Bromann, and Titus Fortner, we explore topics such as ownership, governance, and the sustainability of open-source projects. From the widespread adoption of Selenium to the strategic involvement of nonprofit entities in ensuring project integrity, this episode is essential listening for industry professionals keen on staying at the forefront of software and automated testing frameworks.

    Join us for a spirited discussion on the transformative potential of AI in development, the growing importance of browser and cloud-based testing platforms, and the pivotal role of community-driven initiatives in shaping the modern landscape of software testing.

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