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Maya Razon drives Learning & Leadership Development at the Google School for Leaders. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Maya shares how her team designs transformative learning experiences for Google’s global leaders. She explores how the “inner game” of leadership, physical space, and AI integration are reshaping how leaders learn and grow in a rapidly changing world. From leveraging neuroaesthetics in learning environments to adapting leadership programs for social impact innovators, Maya discusses Google’s human-centered, research-informed approach to developing leaders.
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Maya’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maya-razon-a894343/ReWork Article: https://rework.withgoogle.com/en/guides/learning-development-using-science-to-enhance-learning-outcomes -
In this solo episode of The Edge of Work, host Al Dea explores how leadership development can evolve in the age of Artificial Intelligence. Drawing from his keynote presentations and conversations with talent and business leaders, Al shares now is the time to reimagine how we think about leadership development in a rapidly changing world of work. During this episode, Al offers 4 principles for how leadership development professionals can think and working differently to reshape and take advantage of opportunities in this new world of work.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/itsaldea/Website: https://www.al-dea.com/ -
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In this month’s “Work in Progress” segment, Al Dea is joined by Steve Hunt and Phil Kirschner to unpack three timely topics related to the intersection of talent and the workplace: Moderna’s decision to merge HR and IT, an experiment AI + teamwork experiment from P&G, and whether AI is wiping out the first rung of the career ladder. Together, they explore the implications of AI on job design, team dynamics, early career talent, and the future of work,and what leaders can do to prepare.
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Steve’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steventhunt/Steve’s Book: https://talenttectonics.com/Phil’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philkirschner/Phil’s Newsletter: https://www.flexos.work/the-worklineArticles Mentioned
Moderna: IT and HR: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-moderna-merged-its-tech-and-hr-departments-95318c2a?st=YTw4p4&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalinkP&G and Teams: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5188231 Aneesh Raman NY Times Op Ed: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/19/opinion/linkedin-ai-entry-level-jobs.html -
Ruth Hickin is the Vice President of Workforce Innovation at Salesforce. In this episode, Ruth unpacks her team's efforts around digital labor, and shares how her team is preparing Salesforce’s workforce for the age of AI by investing in internal talent through skilling, career mobility, and human-centered design. During our conversation, Ruth provides the philosophy behind Career Connect, an AI-powered internal talent marketplace, and how it’s enabling employees to explore personalized career paths, skill development, and internal opportunities.
Finally, Ruth also shares Salesforce’s approach to job redesign, skill-based management, and the rise of agent collaboration in day-to-day roles.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruth-hickin/Article: https://www.hr-brew.com/stories/2025/03/28/hr-leaders-prioritize-l-and-dArticle: https://www.hr-brew.com/stories/2024/09/04/salesforce-ai-internal-talent-platform -
In this episode, The Edge of Work Podcast host Al Dea provides an informal recap of his time at ATD ICE ‘25 in Washington D.C. During this episode, Al covers the basics of ATD ICE, some of the programming and content themes, highlights from the expo floor and vendors, and some of his reflections from the conversations he had with talent and learning leaders.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/itsaldea/Website: https://www.al-dea.com/Career Experimentation: https://alsnewsletter.substack.com/p/how-to-help-your-employees-experiment Developing Talent: https://theedgeofwork.com/how-to-turn-leaders-into-developers-of-talent/ATD ICE: https://atdconference.td.org/Uplimit: https://uplimit.com/Tenor: https://tenorhq.com/ -
Kweilin Ellingrud is a Director of the McKinsey Global Institute (MGI) and leads Diversity and Inclusion for McKinsey globally. She is also a senior partner at McKinsey and co-author of The Broken Rung: When the Career Ladder Breaks for Women--and How They Can Succeed in Spite of It, a book on the challenges women face in career advancement.
In this episode, Kweilin joins the podcast to discuss the concept of the "broken rung" or the first step up to manager that many women are disproportionately denied, and how this early gap significantly impacts long-term career progression. Together, they explore the importance of experience capital, the impact of bold career decisions, and the role of leaders and HR in fostering equitable growth.
Kweilin also shares practical insights on strategic networking and recognizing workplace biases, offering listeners tangible strategies to support and advance women in the workplace.
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LinkedIn URL: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kweilinmellingrud/ Book: https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/mckinsey-on-books/the-broken-rung -
Carole Bennett is the Vice President of Talent Management and Development at Sutter Health. In this episode, Carole shares her journey in leading large-scale talent strategy across a major healthcare system. She unpacks how Sutter Health is investing in internal mobility, leadership development, and workforce planning to meet both immediate and long-term needs. Carole also discusses the importance of tying talent strategies to broader business goals, building trust with leaders, the concept of building a "Career Home" and creating career paths that empower employees.
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Eric Wong is an Organizational Effectiveness Leader at Adobe, where he oversees executive coaching, leads org development efforts, and facilitates leadership development programs. During this conversation Eric shares lessons from his journey across the leadership development industry, including startups, consulting, and corporate leadership, and offers a behind-the-scenes look at how Adobe has built and scaled its coaching strategy.
Eric also shares his perspective on where coaching has been, how it’s evolving, and what companies (and coaches) need to do to stay relevant and impactful. From manager accountability to the role of artificial intelligence in coaching, Eric provides insights on driving business results through leadership development, as well as his perspective on how to stay relevant in the coaching industry.
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Samantha Simmons is the Chief People & Internal Operations Officer for the Ladies Professional Golf Association (LPGA). In this episode, Sam shares how the LPGA is navigating growth, performance, and culture in a rapidly changing world of sports and work.
During this conversation, Samantha shared the people org’s strategic priorities and why their team is scaling impact, how the LPGA is investing in manager development and wellness, and why embracing collaboration is key to high-performing teams. Sam also reflects on the evolving employer-employee relationship, the role of autonomy, and the challenges of leading in a mission-driven, global organization.
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Jim Rowan is a Principal at Deloitte Consulting LLP and the Head of the Artificial Intelligence Practice, where he leads the firm’s AI strategy across client services, alliances, innovation, and internal transformation. During this conversation, Jim shares his thoughts on the current and future state of Artificial Intelligence in the enterprise. He shares insights from Deloitte’s State of Generative AI report, including where organizations are seeing real ROI, why AI agents are generating so much interest, and what leaders should consider as they adopt these emerging technologies.
Finally, Jim also reflects on the role of talent in the age of AI, how enterprises can build responsible strategies, the importance of using this time to scenario plan for the future and why the future of work will likely involve teams of humans and agents collaborating side by side.
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State of Gen AI Report: https://www2.deloitte.com/us/en/pages/consulting/articles/state-of-generative-ai-in-enterprise.html Jim’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jim-rowan1/Carnegie Mellon Study: The Impact of Gen AI on Critical thinking https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/uploads/prod/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf -
Ty Beasley is the Chief Talent Officer at RSM, a leading professional services firm. During this conversation, Al and Ty spend time exploring the evolving world of talent management in professional services.
Ty shares stories from his early career and offers insights into RSM’s approach to talent strategy—covering internal mobility, performance growth, and the role of skills in employee development. They also dive into the challenges and opportunities shaping the industry today, including how AI is transforming talent management and enhancing the employee experience.
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Kelly Jones is the Chief People Officer at Cisco, where she is shaping the future of work and redefining HR in the age of AI. In this episode, Kelly shares insights from her recent blog post on the four transformative trends shaping HR in 2025, including hyper-personalized employee experiences, continuous learning, soft skills as power skills, and well-being as a business imperative.
During this conversation, Kelly discusses the evolving role of HR leaders in driving AI adoption, fostering resilient workforces, and redefining leadership in a hybrid world of humans and AI. Finally, Kelly also offers practical advice for HR professionals on how to bring leaders along in change efforts and ensure people remain at the center of transformation.
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellykjones/https://blogs.cisco.com/news/four-transformative-trends-shaping-hr-in-2025 -
Heather Dunn is the Chief People Officer at Brex, a modern day financial platform. In this conversation, Heather shares her insights from participating at Transform on the "Next Gen Leader" panel and how Brex is rethinking leadership development, prioritizing mindsets over traditional skill rubrics.
During this conversation, Heather shares the company’s shift toward simplification, differentiated talent strategies, and how they’re supporting high-potential employees through top talent programs. Heather also offers a sneak peek into Brex’s evolving talent flywheel, and how the flywheel supports Brex’s employee value proposition in both attracting and retaining talent.
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Heather Dunn's Linkedin Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hedunn/Transform: https://transform.us/ -
Tina Gupta is the SVP of Talent Management at New York Life Insurance Company, where she leads efforts to transform how employees develop and grow within the organization. In this episode of The Edge of Work, Tina shares insights into New York Life’s ongoing transformation and the role of talent in driving change. She discusses the company’s Career Hub initiative, which leverages AI to help employees navigate career growth, upskilling, and internal mobility. Tina also highlights the evolving role of managers, the importance of a connected talent strategy, and how AI is shaping the future of work.
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Brian Elliott is the CEO of Work Forward and an expert in the workplace strategy space. In this conversation, Brian shares insights from his work with organizations on flexible work, the ongoing return-to-office debate, and how trust impacts productivity and adoption of generative AI.
We also explore how companies are intentionally designing in-person gatherings and why aligning on outcomes—not just activity—is essential for success in the modern workplace. A timely, thought-provoking conversation on what it takes to lead and work effectively in 2025 and beyond.
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Newsletter: https://theworkforward.substack.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/belliott/Transform: https://transform.us/ -
Betsy Summers is a Principal Research Analyst at Forrester Research, covering HR and the future of work. In this episode, Betsy joins host Al Dea to explore the rapidly evolving workplace landscape, from AI’s impact on jobs to the shifting role of HR as a strategic driver of business success. They discuss the challenges HR leaders face in adapting to AI, the growing demand for leadership and management skills, and how organizations can better align talent strategies with business needs. Betsy also shares insights from her research on skills intelligence, workforce planning, and the future of coaching in an AI-driven world.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsyasummers/ Forrester: https://www.forrester.com/analyst-bio/betsy-summers/BIO16384 -
Jenny Wood is a former Google Executive and the author of Wild Courage: Go After What You Want and Get It. In this episode, Jenny shares her inspiring journey of launching the groundbreaking "Own Your Career" initiative at Google, a movement that empowered thousands of employees to take charge of their professional paths.
During the conversation, Jenny shares some key career advice from the book including, including redefining traits like courage, influence, and authenticity to advance in a competitive workplace. Jenny also shares practical strategies for overcoming imposter syndrome, navigating office dynamics, and standing out through bold actions.
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Website: https://itsjennywood.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennyilles/Book: https://itsjennywood.com/book -
This week, we are live in Las Vegas with 4,000 other professionals across the HR and people ecosystem at the Transform Conference. In this episode, we share two of our interviews with leaders across the HR Ecosystem to find out what’s on their mind and what’s going on in the world of work. Listen in to this conversation to hear perspectives from Kyle Forrest (Principal, Deloitte Consulting LLP) and Rebecca Stern (Senior Director, Leadership Development and Interim CLO, Udemy.)
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Kyle Forrest: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyleforrest/Rebecca Stern: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebeccastern12/Transform: https://transform.us/ -
In this special episode of The Edge of Work, host Al Dea launches a new segment called Work in Progress. In this episode, he is joined by returning guests Shonna Waters and Angela Cheng-Cimini to explore the intersection of AI and leadership development. Together, they discuss the latest research and insights on how AI is shaping leadership, the challenges of adoption, and the opportunities it presents for developing leaders. From personalized learning to AI-driven coaching, they unpack what’s happening now and what’s ahead. Plus, they debate the risks of over-reliance on AI and its impact on critical thinking. Don’t miss this insightful conversation on the future of leadership in an AI-driven world.
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Angela’s Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-cheng-cimini/Shonna’s Profile:https://www.linkedin.com/in/shonna-waters/ Article 1: https://brandonhall.com/how-to-leverage-ai-technology-to-improve-leadership-development-effectiveness/Article 2: https://time.com/charter/7210141/davos-ai-leadership/Article 3: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/uploads/prod/2025/01/lee_2025_ai_critical_thinking_survey.pdf -
David Burkus is a Leadership and Teamwork expert, keynote speaker, and author of Best Team Ever. During this conversation, David shares key insights from his book Best Team Ever on what makes teams thrive in today's workplace. We explore the science behind high-performing teams, the critical role of psychological safety, and why work is increasingly about collaboration. Plus, David breaks down practical strategies for leading cross-functional teams, building social capital, and fostering a culture where everyone contributes their best.
Website:https://davidburkus.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidburkus/ - Mostrar más
