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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s Monday Night Football game between the Browns and Broncos that saw Jameis Winston set the Browns single game passing record with 497 yards while also throwing two pick sixes in a losing effort, plus all the different potential implications with tonight’s CFP rankings show. Joining the progrum to chat about the season as a whole and the chances of his team playing in the college football playoffs and why he thinks they should be is Alabama Head Coach, Kalen DeBoer. Next, Linebacker for the Denver Broncos, Nik Bonitto joins the show fresh off a pick 6 last night to chat about the season, where the Broncos could potentially go this season, Bo Nix’ maturation, what Sean Payton is like in the locker room, and how they prepared for Jameis Winston. Next, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, future Hall of Famer, and quarterback for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about continuing to find the positives in this season, turning 41, still loving football and finding the importance in the locker room, his new documentary series coming to Netflix, and the importance of franchises willing to stick with a GM/Head Coach until their plan is realized. Later, WWE Superstar and Cleveland Browns fan, The Miz joins the show to give his outlook on the Browns for the remainder of the season moving into next year, and how his golf game is finally starting to turn the corner. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 13 of the NFL season including the Bills dominating the 49ers on Sunday Night Football, the Eagles potentially staking their claim as the best team in the NFL, the Chargers getting a big win in Atlanta after intercepting Kirk Cousins 4x, the Steelers beating the Bengals in an absolute shootout, and a wild rivalry weekend in college football that saw endless fights, and a lot of conversation surrounding it. Joining the progrum to recap the weekend and give injury updates on Christian McCaffrey, Trevor Lawrence, coach openings and who might be getting fired soon, and what to be looking for in tonight’s game is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Later, the GOAT, 8x Super Bowl Champion, Bill Belichick joins the progrum to give his biggest takeaway’s from the week, and what some of the most important things are to look at as we reach the stretch run here. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, AJ Hawk, and the boys preview this weekend’s college football slate as well as the Thanksgiving Day games and Friday games in the NFL before making their picks against the spread, and AQ Shipley goes In The Trenches and selects his top 5 offensive line units of the week. Joining the progrum to chat about the newest college football rankings and what they mean as well as a look ahead to this weekend’s games is 7x National Champion, the GOAT, and panelist on College GameDay, Nick Saban. Next, 3x Super Bowl Champion, former NFL General Manager, and host of the Lombardi Line and GM Shuffle podcast, Michael Lombardi joins the show to preview the Thanksgiving Day games and the Black Friday game, as well as give out a few picks for the weekend. Later, future Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, countless Pro Bowls and All-Pros and NFL on CBS analyst, JJ Watt joins the show to chat about his biggest takeaway’s from week 12, as well as chat about his Thanksgiving Day plans. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. Have a Happy Thanksgiving, we’re off the next two days. We’ll see you for overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night’s Harbowl on Monday Night Football as the Ravens beat the Chargers 30-23, and John Harbaugh moved to 3-0 against Jim. Joining the progrum to break down tonight’s projected College Football Playoff bracket and the all the chaos that ensued on Saturday and all the chaos that could still be ahead is ESPN College Football Writer and Insider, Heather Dinich. Later, Defensive Tackle for the Chiefs, Tershawn Wharton joins the show to chat about catching a young Chiefs fan who fell over the guard rail at Bank of America Stadium in Charlotte, why the Chiefs win so many close games, and if this Chiefs team feels different than the last two Super Bowl teams he’s been on. Later, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, and Quarterback for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about going back to Cal and seeing a lot of his old teammates to celebrate Coach Jeff Tedford, and to respond to all the reports about him in the last week including that he wants to play next year, but not for the Jets, potentially being placed on IR or released, his reported relationship with Woody Johnson, and his memories from playing on Thanksgiving. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 12 of the NFL season including the Lions continuing to dominate after taking over the LoudHahse in Indianapolis, Saquon Barkley setting Eagles records amassing over 300 total yards on Sunday Night Football, the Packers dismantling the 49ers, sending their playoff chances reeling, the Vikings getting a massive overtime win in Chicago, the Chiefs surviving the Panthers in Carolina, before previewing tonight’s Harbowl between the Ravens and Chargers. Joining the progrum to give updates on what potential coaching openings might be around the corner, if Joe Schoen’s seat is getting hotter after Saquon’s historic night against the Rams, where Daniel Jones might end up when he clears waivers, and what to expect from tonight’s game is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, the GOAT, 8x Super Bowl Champion, Bill Belichick joins the progrum to chat about his biggest takeaway’s from week 12, if we know who teams are at this point, and his thoughts on tonight’s Monday Night Football game before he joins the ManningCast tonight. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow, cheers.
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n today’s show, Pat and AJ Hawk are live from inside the Horseshoe in Columbus, Ohio on the campus of Ohio State before tomorrow’s massive top 5 matchup between the Indiana Hoosiers and Ohio State Buckeyes, while the rest of the boys are in back in Indianapolis. They recap last night’s snowy affair between the Steelers and Browns that ultimately saw Jameis Winston and the Browns defeat the Steelers in a nailbiter, before looking at the entire week 12 NFL slate and making their picks against the spread. Joining the progrum to chat about tomorrow’s massive top 5 tilt against Indiana, his team as a whole, his relationship with Chip Kelly, and the amount of skill he has on his team this year is Head Coach of the Ohio State Buckeyes, Ryan Day. Later, 7x National Champion, College GameDay panelist, the GOAT, Nick Saban joins the show to preview tomorrow’s top 5 matchup, chat about the impact weather will have on the game and SEC schools to have to travel north and deal with weather during the College Football Playoffs, his thoughts on Army vs. Notre Dame, how recruiting has changed, and why he thinks Indiana is better than people are giving them credit for. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, Coach Chuck Pagano, AJ Hawk, and the boys preview tonight’s Thursday Night Football matchup between the Steelers and the Browns before making their picks against the spread. Joining the progrum to announce which college he will be attending is ESPN 300 #2 Recruit, Quarterback from Carrollton, Georgia, Julian Lewis. Next, 3x Super Bowl Champion, former NFL GM, NY Times best-selling author, and host of the Lombardi Line and GM Shuffle podcast, Michael Lombardi joins the show to chat about the week 12 slate, and tonight’s Thursday Night Football game as well. Next, ESPN Senior NBA Insider, Shams Charania joins the progrum to chat about some of the changes being made to the NBA All-Star format, give an update on Luka Dončić’s injury, and clean up some of the stories he broke earlier in the week. Later, Head Coach of the Minnesota Vikings, Kevin O’Connell joins the show to chat about the Vikings 8-2 start, his motivation style in team meetings, how impression Brian Flores’ defense has been this year, how Aaron Jones and Sam Arnold have changed the offense, why you have to be prepared to play week in and week out in the NFC North, the challenges they’ll face with Chicago’s new offense coordinator this week, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s new College Football Playoff rankings and the ensuing chaos that will follow including who should be upset that they aren’t in, if Indiana is in no matter what what happens against Ohio State on Saturday, the seeding process, how many teams the SEC and B1G are going to get, and much much more. Joining the progrum to give his biggest takeaway’s from week 11 of the NFL season, preview tomorrow night’s Thursday Night Football game between the Steelers and Browns, and answer questions from around the internet from the hashtag #AskJAGE, future 1st ballot Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, countless Pro Bowl’s and All Pro’s, and NFL on CBS analyst, JJ Watt. Later, panelist on College GameDay, cohost of SVPod, and contributor to a countless number of show’s on ESPN’s family of networks, the legend, Stanford Steve Coughlin joins the show to chat about the scenario of whether or not Ohio State is out if they get beat by Indiana, and some of his biggest questions from the College Football Playoff rankings. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night’s Monday Night Football game between the Texans and Cowboys that saw the Cowboys get dominated for their fifth straight loss, and raises a lot of questions about how Jerry Jones has been running the Cowboys for the last several years and why it ultimately doesn’t matter because we’ll be seeing them on primetime regardless. They are also joined by several incredible guests including ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter to chat about the news that General Manager Joe Douglas has been fired by the New York Jets, and to speculate about what other coaches openings we might see in the coming weeks. Next, ESPN Senior NBA Insider, Shams Charania joins the show to give an update about everything happening around the NBA including a team meeting for the Sixers to address some issues, the Lakers up to this point and Bronny James’ status, Zion Williamson’s health situation, and tonight’s marquee matchups. Next, former Head Coach of Mississippi State and Florida, and now ESPN College Football analyst, Dan Mullen joins the show to discuss the College Football Playoff, why he thinks Indiana is in regardless, who he likes to win the Heisman, and everything else happening in the college football world. Lastly, rookie Wide Receiver for the LA Chargers and 2x National Champion at Georgia, Ladd McConkey joins the show to chat about his first NFL season thus far, his relationship with Justin Herbert, what Coach Harbaugh is like compared to Kirby Smart, that last drive against the Bengals on Sunday Night Football, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 11 of the NFL season including the Bills ending the Chiefs hopes at an undefeated season, the Steelers outlasting the Ravens in a typical AFC North battle, the Packers blocking a last second field goal to beat the Bears in Chicago, an incredible Sunday Night Football matchup that saw the Chargers avoid a major comeback from the Bengals, and everything else that happened across the league. Joining the progrum to chat about some of the biggest injury news, what’s going to happen to Doug Pedersen in Jacksonville, if there’s real concern for the 49ers and Falcons, and more. Later, 8x Super Bowl Champion, the GOAT, Bill Belichick joins the show to give his biggest takeaway’s from week 11 of the NFL season, which teams he thinks are starting to take form, and he previews tonight’s Monday Night Football game between the Texans and Cowboys. Lastly, Tight End for the Miami Dolphins, Jonnu Smith joins the show after a career day to chat about playing in that offense, why he loves Tua as his quarterback, unknowingly throwing a ball into the stands to his son, his coaching career with a local youth league, the differences between Bill Belichick and Mike McDaniel, and if Pitbull is doing anything for NIL at FIU. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today's show, Pat is live from Sanford Stadium in Athens, Georgia on the University of Georgia campus ahead of tomorrow's College GameDay culminating in the Tennessee vs. Georgia game, while AJ Hawk and the boys are back in Indianapolis in studio. They recap last night's Thursday Night Football game that saw the Eagles take a commanding lead in the division over the Commanders, before previewing and picking the entire week 11 NFL slate. They are also joined by several incredible guests including Philadelphia Eagles Head Coach, Nick Sirianni, Georgia Head Coach Kirby Smart, 7x National Champion, The GOAT, Nick Saban, President and CEO of the UFC Dana White, and ESPN's Marty and McGee make a special guest appearance as well. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, Coach Chuck Pagano, AJ Hawk, and the boys preview tonight’s Thursday Night Football game between the Commanders and Eagles before making their picks against the spread, chat about Aaron Rodgers’ comments about playing next year and what the Jets need to do, and go to the Coach’s Hot Seat with Chuck Pagano to chat about some of the biggest storylines of this week in the NFL. Joining the progrum to chat about the biggest storylines going into week 11 and give out some of his picks for the weekend is 3x Super Bowl Champion, former GM of the Cleveland Browns, and host of the Lombardi Line and GM Shuffle, Michael Lombardi. Next, GM of the Kansas City Chiefs, Brett Veach joins the show to chat about constructing their roster, being in this extended Super Bowl window, how incredible their coaching staff is, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce, and much more. Later, 2x NBA All-Star, All-NBA, starting Point Guard for the Indiana Pacers, Tyrese Haliburton joins the show to chat about the new City uniforms that were unveiled today, the NBA Cup and the importance of it, how the season has been going so far, load management in the NBA, whether or not he’s going to be in the Royal Rumble, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys react to the College Football Playoff’s new batch of rankings and matchups that came out last night, the news that Anthony Richardson once again will be the starter for the Colts, and AQ Shipley does his three biggest takeaway’s from week 10 before going In the Trenches, and Darius Butler breaks down the best DB play of the week in Everything DB. Joining the progrum to break down the College Football Playoff rankings and what they mean moving forward as well as the marquee college basketball games of last night is the host of College GameDay for both football and basketball, Rece Davis. Later, future Hall of Famer, member of the Texans Ring of Honor, 3x NFL DPOY, and NFL on CBS analyst, JJ Watt joins the show to chat about his biggest takeaways from week 10 of the NFL season and look ahead to week 11. Lastly, WWE Women’s World Champion, Liv Morgan joins the progrum to chat about the Royal Rumble coming to Indianapolis, her experience in Saudi Arabia, her beef with Rhea Ripley and relationship with Dom Mysterio, and when she gained the confidence she currently has in the ring. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night’s Monday Night Football game between the Dolphins and Rams that saw the Dolphins keep their playoff hopes alive. They also discuss the breaking news that Shane Waldron has been firing as Offensive Coordinator of the Bears, and who’s to blame about what is going on in Chicago, and ultimately if anything is going to change this season for Caleb Williams and the Bears as a whole. Joining the progrum to break down tonight’s CFP rankings release is ESPN Senior College Football Writer and analyst, Heather Dinich. Next, one of the last actual movie stars, Glen Powell joins the show to discuss whether or not the rumors Tom Cruise wants him to take over the Mission Impossible franchise are true. In hour 2, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, 4x NFL MVP, future first ballot Hall of Famer, and current Quarterback for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about what needs to change with the Jets, the weekly process and why it’s more important to do the little things when losing, his 4 rules for being a good team/teammate, and much more. Lastly, interim Head Coach of the New Orleans Saints, Darren Rizzi joins the show to chat about their big win over the Falcons, getting put on the injury report after the game during the celebration, what he’s tweaked to the Saints weekly process, clogging the toilet before the game, and who he’d like to see get down to New Orleans for a Saints game. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened in week 10 of the NFL season including the Lions overcoming a 5 interception game from Jared Goff to beat the Texans on Sunday Night Football, the Chiefs escaping the Broncos on a last second field goal block, an incredible Steelers vs. Commanders game, all the issues that are mounting with the Colts, before previewing tonight’s Monday Night Football game between the Dolphins and Rams. Joining the progrum to give an update on Eberflus with the Bears and Mike McCarthy in Dallas as well as who else’s job might be in trouble, plus some injury news is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, 8x Super Bowl Champion, the GOAT, Bill Belichick joins the show to chat about his biggest takeaway’s from week 10 and who he likes in tonight’s Monday Night Football game. Later, former National Champion Head Coach of the Michigan Wolverines and current Head Coach of the LA Chargers, Jim Harbaugh joins the show to chat about changing the culture in LA, his love of football, why he thinks Justin Herbert is unbelievable, where he comes up with the stories to send a message to the team, and how he takes on the identity of his players, not the other way around. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, and Boston Connor are down in Baton Rouge inside of Tiger Stadium before tomorrow’s massive tilt between Alabama and LSU, while AJ and the rest of the boys are back in Indianapolis. They recap last night’s incredible Thursday Night Football matchup between the Bengals and Ravens that saw the Ravens survive 35-34, and look ahead to the rest of the Bengals schedule to see if they realistically have a chance to still make the playoffs sitting at 4-6. Then they preview the entire NFL week 10 slate and make their predictions against the spread and look at some of the biggest college football matchups on the slate this weekend as well. Joining the progrum is Head Coach of the LSU Tigers, Brian Kelly to chat about how it’s different at LSU after being at Notre Dame for a long time, the SEC not having an easy week on the schedule, the atmosphere in the stadium, his thoughts on recruiting and NIL at LSU, this year’s team and what the rivalry with Alabama means, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on overreaction Monday, cheers.
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On today's show, Pat, Coach Chuck Pagano, AJ Hawk, and the boys put Chuck on the Coach's Hot Seat to get his take on some of the biggest storylines around the NFL as we head into week 10 before previewing tonight's Thursday Night Football game between the Bengals and Ravens and make their picks against the spread. They are also joined by a few incredible guests including 3x Super Bowl Champion, former GM of Cleveland Browns, and host of the GM Shuffle and Lombardi Line, Michael Lombardi; country music superstar who is currently on tour in the United States, the man, the myth, the legend, Jelly Roll; and 2x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, and starting Quarterback for the Buffalo Bills, Josh Allen. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the trade deadline as a whole, which teams were winners and losers, the college football playoff releasing their first official rankings, and 12 year NFL veteran AQ Shipley goes through his biggest takeaway’s from week 9 of the NFL season, plus we go In the Trenches, and dive into the best defensive back play of the week in Everything DB. Joining the progrum are three incredible guests including future Hall of Famer, JJ Watt, Indiana Head Football Coach Curt Cignetti, and Atlanta Falcons Quarterback, Kirk Cousins. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night’s Monday Night Football game that saw the Chiefs drive right down the field in the first drive of the Overtime to beat the Bucs as both Travis Kelce and DeAndre Hopkins had big nights. They also wait and react to all the different trades happening as they approach the trade deadline. Joining the progrum at two separate times to update everyone on who is getting trade and for what is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Next, back-to-back National Champion Head Coach of the UCONN Huskies men’s basketball team, Dan Hurley joins the show to chat about going for a three peat, the philosophy of UCONN’s basketball team, how much easier recruiting has become, the importance of playing a tough non conference schedule, and much more. Later, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, and Quarterback of the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about the trade deadline, he reacts to Mike Williams getting traded in real time, how impressed he’s been with Jared Goff so far, how much different the vibes are in the building after a massive win, how he’s feeling physically, and much more. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow, cheers.
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On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreaction to everything that happened in week 9 of the NFL season including the Lions staking their claim as the best team in the NFL after beating the Packers in Green Bay in the rain, the Vikings beating the Colts on Sunday Night Football with the Colts having their worst offensive display of the year, the Saints firing Dennis Allen after losing to the Panthers, Buffalo outlasting the Dolphins, the Ravens absolutely shellacking the Broncos, and much more before previewing tonight’s Monday Night Football game. Joining the show to chat about the trade deadline that ends tomorrow at 4 PM, as well as what is going to happen next in New Orleans after firing Dennis Allen is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter. Later, 8x Super Bowl Champion, the GOAT, Bill Belichick joins the show to chat about his biggest takeaway’s from NFL week 9, which teams he thinks are primed to make a run here as the games begin to matter more, and who he has on the All-Belichick team. Make sure to subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow, cheers.
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