Episodios
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Jason Dorsey--pastor and artist based in Redmond (Seattle), Washington--talks about pastoral oversight of worship and the Psalms as a pattern for organizing worship. He also shares some aspects of worship music he finds troubling and why he describes himself as "chief worship leader" of his church.
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This week, Vince (from The Berean Test) rejoins us to talk about "Together" by forKING&COUNTRY, a song which was nominated for a GMA Dove Award in 2021.
Lyrics:
Oh oh oh oh oh
This is for the busted hearts
This is for the question marks
This is for the outcast soul
Lost control, no one knows
Sing it for the can't-go-back
Sing it for the broken past
Sing it for the just found out
Life is now upside down
If you're looking for hope tonight, raise your hand
If you're feeling alone and don't understand
If you're fighting in the fight of your life, then stand
We're going to make it through this hand in hand
And if we fall, we will fall together
Together
This is for the second chance
This is for the new romance
Sing it for the loved in vain, overcame
It's not too late
If you're looking for hope tonight, raise your hand
If you're feeling alone and don't understand
If you're fighting in the fight of your life, then stand
We're going to make it through this hand in hand
And if we fall, we will fall together
Together
When we rise, we will rise together
Together
Ohhh ohhh ohhh ohhh
(We will rise together)
(Listen)
If you're looking for hope tonight
(And you're all alone)
If you're feeling alone tonight
(Can you feel)
If you're in the fight of your life
(I can promise)
We're gonna make it happen, yeah
I will be by your side
(By your side)
Cause love's in the air tonight
(Can you feel it)
Come up and see the light
Whenever ever ever
Just as long as we're together, say
If we fall, we will fall together
(I got you my brother)
Together
(I see you my sister)
When we rise, we will rise together
Together
If we fall, we will fall together
(Take my hand)
Together
(Help me stand)
When we rise, we will rise together
(We will rise together)
Together
Together we are dangerous
Together with our differences
Together we are bolder, braver, stronger
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Vince founded and runs thebereantest.org--a Christian music review website which publishes several reviews a week. The Berean Test also features an active community of thoughtful commenters. Colin, Tyler and Vince discuss Vince's story, the challenges of evaluating music in the church and some common problems in the genre.
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This week, we take a deep dive into the lyrics of "So Will I (100 Billion X)" by Hillsong Worship. This song rose to prominence—and controversy—in 2018 after its April release. There is so much to discuss in these lyrics! We talk about creation, the breath of life, God's promises, the atonement and salvation.
Christian Post article: https://www.christianpost.com/news/hillsongs-joel-houston-clarifies-evolution-views-after-sparking-debate-with-worship-song-so-will-i.html
Lyrics:
Verse 1:
God of creation
There at the start
Before the beginning of time
With no point of reference
You spoke to the dark
And fleshed out the wonder of light
Chorus 1:
And as You speak
A hundred billion galaxies are born
In the vapour of Your breath the planets form
If the stars were made to worship so will I
I can see Your heart in everything You’ve made
Every burning star
A signal fire of grace
If creation sings Your praises so will I
Verse 2:
God of Your promise
You don’t speak in vain
No syllable empty or void
For once You have spoken
All nature and science
Follow the sound of Your voice
Chorus 2:
And as You speak
A hundred billion creatures catch Your breath
Evolving in pursuit of what You said
If it all reveals Your nature so will I
I can see Your heart in everything You say
Every painted sky
A canvas of Your grace
If creation still obeys You so will I
Bridge:
If the stars were made to worship so will I
If the mountains bow in reverence so will I
If the oceans roar Your greatness so will I
For if everything exists to lift You high so will I
If the wind goes where You send it so will I
If the rocks cry out in silence so will I
If the sum of all our praises still falls shy
Then we’ll sing again a hundred billion times
Verse 3:
God of salvation
You chased down my heart
Through all of my failure and pride
On a hill You created
The light of the world
Abandoned in darkness to die
Chorus 3:
And as You speak
A hundred billion failures disappear
Where You lost Your life so I could find it here
If You left the grave behind You so will I
I can see Your heart in everything You’ve done
Every part designed in a work of art called love
If You gladly chose surrender so will I
I can see Your heart
Eight billion different ways
Every precious one
A child You died to save
If You gave Your life to love them so will I
Tag:
Like You would again a hundred billion times
But what measure could amount to Your desire
You’re the One who never leaves the one behind
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Stephen is a former worship leader from Billings, Montana in the United States. He is co-host of the Ravel and Know Normal People podcasts, as well as being founder and CEO of the Highline Media Network. We have a wide ranging discussion about the church, Christian music and Stephen's own story as a church musician and worship leader.
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This week, we tackle some challenging issues with our guest David from The Goldsmith Odyssey podcast. David is an independent filmmaker, writer, and Christian thinker. Together we discuss the significance of truth in worship, the formulaic nature of much modern worship music, the interaction of popular culture and Christian faith, the experiencing of art on its own terms, and music as a delivery mechanism for ideas.
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Tyler and Colin reflect on series four and some of the issues which arose over the past six months. We discuss the problem of vagueness in worship music, the pursuit of mystery and changes in our ratings of songs.
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Tyler and Colin reflect on series four and some of the issues which arose over the past six months. We talk about the terms "worship leader" and "evangelical," the stating of doing things without the doing of the things stated, and discuss listener feedback.
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This is the big one. Colin and Tyler take on the popular song "Oceans" by Hillsong line by line, evaluating how it compares with Scripture.
Lyric video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy9nwe9_xzw
Song story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlbunWsV5A&t=52s
Drum solo discussed at end of podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xY-Lx8_fN0
You call me out upon the waters
The great unknown where feet may fail
And there I find You in the mystery
In oceans deep my faith will standI will call upon Your Name
And keep my eyes above the waves
When oceans rise
My soul will rest in Your embrace
For I am Yours and You are mineYour grace abounds in deepest waters
Your sovereign hand will be my guide
Where feet may fail and fear surrounds me
You’ve never failed and You won’t start nowSpirit lead me where my trust is without borders
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Let me walk upon the waters
Wherever You would call me
Take me deeper than my feet could ever wander
And my faith will be made stronger
In the presence of my Saviour -
This song is something of a staple in every worship leader's toolkit. But what exactly is it about? This week, we take a deep dive into Paul Baloche's "Open The Eyes of My Heart", a song which transforms Paul's prayer for the Ephesian church into a direct petition to God by the believer. We talk about this passage, the description of God's perfect holiness, and the various senses in which Christ Jesus is high and lifted up. Perhaps you've come to this song through Baloche or heard one of the many covers by Michael W. Smith or Phillips, Craig & Dean or Randy Travis. Whatever your path to this tune, we hope you will enjoy our careful discussion of its lyrics.
Story behind the song: http://www.praisecharts.com/blog/story-behind-open-the-eyes-of-my-heart/
Lyrics:
Open the eyes of my heart, Lord
Open the eyes of my heart
I want to see You
I want to see You
To see you high and lifted up
Shining in the light of Your glory
Pour out Your power and love
As we sing holy, holy, holy
Holy, holy, holy
Holy, holy, holy
Holy, holy, holy
I want to see You
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Well, Wickham did not promise 10,000 Great Things, so he's ahead of the eight ball. But should a song claim "You free every captive and break every chain"? Colin and Tyler discuss the pros and cons of Phil Wickham's "Great Things".
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What happens when an ancient priestly blessing is set to contemporary Christian worship music? And what does it mean for the congregation to take part in the utterance of a blessing? Tune in to hear this week's discussion!
The Lord bless you
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And keep you
Make His face shine upon you
And be gracious to you
The Lord turn His
Face toward you
And give you peace
Amen, amen, amen
Amen, amen, amen
May His favor be upon you
And a thousand generations
And your family and your children
And their children, and their children
May His presence go before you
And behind you, and beside you
All around you, and within you
He is with you, He is with you
In the morning, in the evening
In your coming, and your going
In your weeping, and rejoicing
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you, He is for you
He is for you, He is for you -
What happens when John 3:16 gets set to music? Colin and Tyler discuss the heterodox view annihilationism as well as the challenging topic of singing about addictions in this weeks review of "God So Loved" by We The Kingdom.
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Does God "unravel us with a melody"? Does Jesus' "blood flow through our veins"? Bethel got quite creative with "No Longer Slaves" and Colin and Tyler reflect on whether lines such as these stand up to biblical muster.
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This song is about a person who needs Christ every hour. On this episode we examine the lyrics of the song and discuss various scriptural passages. We discuss the theme of the Christian finding rest in Christ, being called holy because of Christ, and the active defense of the believer that Christ's intercession provides. There are also several "shout-outs" to older hymns in this song, which we also explore.
Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuvfMDhTyMA
Behind the Song interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjJ9WaYCmVk
Maher's old bio: https://web.archive.org/web/20090123092601/http://mattmahermusic.com/bio.php
Maher's new bio: https://www.mattmahermusic.com/about/
Lyrics:
Lord, I come, I confess
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Bowing here I find my rest
Without You I fall apart
You're the One that guides my heart
Lord, I need You, oh, I need You
Every hour I need You
My one defense, my righteousness
Oh God, how I need You
Where sin runs deep Your grace is more
Where grace is found is where You are
Where You are, Lord, I am free
Holiness is Christ in me
Lord, I need You, oh, I need You
Every hour I need You
My one defense, my righteousness
Oh God, how I need You
So teach my song to rise to You
When temptation comes my way
When I cannot stand I'll fall on You
Jesus, You're my hope and stay
Lord, I need You, oh, I need You
Every hour I need You
My one defense, my righteousness
Oh God, how I need You
You're my one defense, my righteousness
Oh God, how I need You
My one defense, my righteousness
Oh God, how I need You -
Join Tyler and Colin as we discuss a song by an organization called CityAlight. CityAlight is part of the Anglican Diocese of Sydney, Australia, and seeks to write songs which are biblically rich and also sing-able. Tune in to hear our thoughts on the lyrics of this song. We also discuss this song's use of metaphor, the careful play on Christian turns of phrase, and the all-sufficiency of Christ.
Tim Challies' interview with CityAlight: https://www.challies.com/interviews/get-to-know-cityalight-and-their-new-album/
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This week, Colin and Tyler consider a newer song by the Gettys which marvels at the incarnation and encourages the church to "tell the world" about Christ's advent. The hosts discuss the past, present and future significance of the incarnation and, at one point, a robot children's choir.
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Merry Christmas! This week's episode looks at a newer song which is popular among churches in America. In the course of our discussion, we look at the many metaphors used in this song and investigate what these metaphors might be saying about God and about the life of the Christian.
Lyrics: https://hillsong.com/lyrics/seasons/
Music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaEx2A7p9Dk
Song background information and story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9VK0ymATzs
Brand new rendition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy8zb88ZXwE
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What is the "dayspring"? What is the "Key of David"? The song "O Come, O Come Emmanuel" provokes a rich discussion of these sorts of questions, but also some comments on Milli Vanilli.
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