Episodios
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Special guest Nawal Qarooni discuss the importance of rethinking language in education and the impact it has on students and families. They emphasize the need for educators to be mindful of the labels and categories they use to describe students and to seek feedback from trusted colleagues to ensure their language is inclusive and supportive. They also explore the role of self-work in understanding how our own self-conception and the words we use impact ourselves and others. Additionally, they discuss the need to expand the definition of literacy to include various forms of communication and expression, and the importance of play and experimentation in the writing process.
Learn more about our special guest:
https://nqcliteracy.org/media/
https://nqcliteracy.org/educator-resources/
Get a copy of her book:
https://www.amazon.com/Nourishing-Caregiver-Collaborations-Experiences-Collective/dp/1625316194?ref_=ast_author_mpb
Catch her event on October 24th:
https://www.nypl.org/events/programs/2024/10/24/caring-and-learning-how-families-shape-literacy-everyday-life?nref=612535
Want to give us feedback on the 1st half of season five?
www.unhingedcollaboration.com
tricia (at) shiftingschools.com
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Sam Guzik, a futurist passionate about local news and AI, discusses the intersection of journalism and AI. He emphasizes the importance of thinking exponentially and acting incrementally when experimenting with AI in journalism. He shares an example of using AI to make public media more accessible through live transcription and summarization. The conversation also touches on the ethics of AI in journalism, the use of digital avatars in news reporting, and the role of scenario planning in futures foresight work. Sam highlights the need for creativity, diverse perspectives, and community engagement in futurist work.
Ready to connect with this week's guest?
Sam Guzik is a Senior Expert Advisor specializing in the future of news, content, distribution and strategy. His career includes a broad range of experience that includes product management, strategic foresight, scenario forecasting, audience engagement and leadership in legacy news organizations.
Sam leads the product strategy for New York Public Radio. Passionate about building a sustainable future for local news, Guzik has demonstrated results creating innovative, engaging and impactful journalism — and thinking about the business model to support that work. His career includes a broad range of experience, with specific focus on product management, strategic foresight, scenario writing, audience engagement and leadership in legacy news organizations.
Guzik is a graduate of Washington University in St. Louis, Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and the NYU Stern School of Business.
https://futuretodayinstitute.com/team/sam-guzik/
Learn more about Kathleen and Tricia:
www.unhingedcollaboration.com
Join the Future Foresight Group referenced at the top of the episode!
https://app.glueup.com/event/aaie-leadership-learning-series-co-creating-future-foresight-skills-122479/
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We discuss the importance of friendship and how biases and intersectionality can impact our relationships. We explore the role of self-work in becoming better friends and the challenges of friendship in the digital age. We also touch on intergenerational friendships and the benefits they bring. The conversation ends with a discussion on friendship rituals and practices that can strengthen and sustain friendships.
Learn more about this week's guest:
https://www.daniellebayardjackson.com/
Dig into her new book:
Fighting for our Friendships: The Science and Art of Conflict and Connection in Women's Relationships
https://www.betterfemalefriendships.com/fighting-for-our-friendships
Reach out to tell us more about your thoughts about Katbot's questions
www.unhingedcollaboration.com
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Welcome to the third episode of season five!
In this episode we talk with Dr. Sharon Lauricella.
Sharon Lauricella is the inaugural Teaching Scholar in Residence at Ontario Tech University in Oshawa, Ontario. She holds a position as Full Professor in the Faculty of Social Science and Humanities and is a scholar of Communication and the Scholarship of Teaching and Learning. Sharon holds a doctoral degree from the University of Cambridge (UK), a BA from Wheaton College (Massachusetts), and a Certificate in Higher Education Teaching from the Derek Bok Center for Teaching and Learning at Harvard University. Her research focuses on teaching with technology, mental health of undergraduate students, and the value of fun and play in higher education.
🧶Key Takeaways: Experimenting with alternative communication tools like Discord can enhance student engagement and collaboration. Designing thematic syllabi and incorporating diverse teaching methods can make the learning experience more interesting and impactful. Fostering listening skills is crucial in education and can contribute to building stronger relationships and communities.🤖 Katbot's questions for further conversation 🤖
Sharon emphasizes that we don’t fully understand students’ perspectives unless we ask the right questions—how can we better design our professional development sessions to ensure we’re truly understanding the needs and challenges of teachers, rather than assuming we already know?
My other question for you is Sharon mentions the unfiltered rawness of TikTok compared to Instagram—how can we create spaces in our school culture that encourage raw, unpolished feedback, and what risks would we need to manage in doing so?
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Welcome to the second episode of season five!
In this episode we talk with Cardozie Jones, founder and CEO of True North EDI.
🧶Key Takeaways:Interdependence is a key concept in diversity, equity, and inclusion work, emphasizing the reliance and balance between individuals and communities.
Theater provides a powerful example of interdependence, where all parts work together to create a cohesive experience.
Giving ourselves and others grace and space to grow and make mistakes is essential for personal and collective growth.
A joyful orientation in DEI work involves focusing on direction, wholeness, and complexity, and recognizing the importance of building towards a future we have not yet seen.🔗 Resources
Learn more about True North EDI and Cardozie Jones:
https://truenorthedi.com/
Follow along with Katbot and Kathleen as they document their thoughts on change management.
🤖 Katbot's questions for further conversation 🤖
What would it look like for your organization to embrace interdependence, where each person’s success is tied to the collective?
Think about how you can create a culture that values mutual reliance and shared responsibility, rather than focusing only on individual inclusion.What structures or hidden norms in your environment may be silently limiting growth and equity, and how can you begin to challenge them?
Reflect on the systems that shape behavior in your workplace or community, and ask yourself: What needs to be made visible to foster true change?How might you approach difficult conversations or change efforts with a spirit of joy and possibility, even when the work feels heavy?
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Welcome to the first episode of season five!
In this episode we talk with Dr. Ulcca Joshi Hansen, education futurist and author of The Future of Smart, about what it will take to radically transform education. Dr. Ulcca Joshi Hansen offers fresh insights into how we can imagine new possible changes to truly rethink education and intelligence.
🧶Key Takeaways: Transformation vs. Reform: Why real change requires dismantling outdated systems rather than making minor adjustments. Holistic Thinking: Shifting from rigid, linear models to a more flexible, interconnected approach that better reflects the complexities of learning. The 3 Rs: Relationship, Relevance, and Reintegration: our guest's framework highlights the importance of human connections, making learning relevant, and weaving knowledge into a more holistic system. AI and Education: As AI advances, how do we preserve core human skills like creativity and empathy while integrating new technologies? Bridging Divides: Schools as spaces for healing polarization by fostering collaboration, critical thinking, and dialogue.🔗 Resources
The Future of Smart podcast
The Future of Smart book
Follow along with Katbot and Kathleen as they document their thoughts on change management.
🤖 Katbot's questions for further conversation 🤖
What strategies will drive genuine transformation, not just reform?
How can we break free from incremental changes and manage the shift toward new, more effective educational systems?
How do we lead a shift toward more human-centered learning?What steps can leaders take to create a school culture that prioritizes relationships, relevance, and holistic student development?
How can we manage the integration of technology while preserving key human skills?How can we balance innovation with ensuring that core human capacities like empathy and critical thinking remain central to education?
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A classic issue for educators is that we just don't have as much time as we'd like. But what if a digital twin could serve as a short intervention mentor? What if you could call a mentor anytime from anywhere for a quick dose of insight?
That's what we test out in this episode.
First we dig into how Katbot would mitigate conflict in a school regarding mobile phone bans. Then we explore what advice Katbot has for a head of school navigating an enrollment on the decline.
We also think about what the research tells us about short interventions:
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/9/17/20827011/teen-depression-anxiety-treatment-single-session
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-51740-9
https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/09/12/1103930/chatbots-can-persuade-people-to-stop-believing-in-conspiracy-theories/
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If you've been following the Katbot Chronicles we hope you are wondering what use cases exist for school leaders when it comes to digital twins.
While Kathleen and Tricia have many many more ideas, they wanted to share a few of their use cases, and model one of them with Katbot.
The full list:
Accessible Virtual Office Hours: The digital twin Katbot can facilitate virtual office hours, positioning the head of school as approachable and available whenever, wherever. How might this change the way others build a relationship with the real head of school? How might this help parents, caregivers, students and faculty rehearse conversations they want to have with the real head of school?
Supportive Caregiver Guidance: The digital twin Katbot can provide an overview of caregiver-facing resources, offering practical advice on how to engage with their child's holistic development. By addressing how to navigate the curriculum, understand school policies, and participate actively in their child’s educational journey, the twin Katbot can be available to parents and caregivers away from campus, or in the process of deciding on whether or not the school is a good fit for their family. How might this make policy more readily understood?
Dress Rehearsal Professional Development: The digital twin Katbot could review plans for a PD session, highlighting or building out questions about how the learning directly connects with a strategic plan. Katbot could provide feedback on the plans before the session is delivered, ensuring the session understands the context of the school. How might this help facilitators make necessary changes to ensure PD is relevant?
Compassionate Crisis Management: During times of crisis, the digital twin Katbot can provide timely, empathetic updates and guidance, ensuring that all members of the school community are informed and supported. How might this free up time for the leadership team in ensuring questions can be answered more efficiently?
Deploy strategy thought partner: The digital twin Katbot could role play a scenario the head of school is concerned about, highlighting possible strategies, timelines, and alternative ideas. How might this help a leader think through case studies in an interactive way?
Want to send us your thoughts?www.unhingedcollaboration.com
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In this episode we debrief the Katbot experiment to date and talk about Katbot's new reality: she has her very own phone number!
Our hosts consider the transformative potential of digital twins in enhancing self-awareness, empathy, and innovative problem-solving. The speakers explore how engaging with AI can provide insights into personal identity and communication, while also addressing the ethical implications of such technology. They discuss the importance of critical thinking and creativity in education, the role of digital twins as assistive technology, and the need for educators to curate meaningful learning experiences.
Connect with Tricia and Kathleen via www.unhingedcollaboration.com
We also are excited to tell you more about:
Becoming a Digital Storyteller: a 4-week online course designed to equip you to be a storytelling, advocacy, and active global citizenship coach for your students. It's also designed to support you in designing innovative, process- and project-based assessments that are rooted in deep listening and human connection. PreK-12 students love creating digital products that have purpose and that can become part of local and global conversations about how we care for ourselves, others, and the planet. Interested? Join LeeAnne's next "Becoming a Digital Storyteller" cohort by Friday, October 4th! The course involves four asynchronous online modules and two Zoom calls with a cohort of like-minded educators. If you have questions, please email LeeAnne at [email protected].
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What does it mean to be a leader of change in a world where change is chaotic, exponential, and well exhausting?
Join us for a new season as we speak with incredible guest experts Sam Guzik, Nawal Qarooni, Luthern Williams, Dr. Zema Sharman, Cardozie Jones and more.
The new season is here on September 18th. Come chat change management with us in an entirely changed podcast format where our co-host's digital twin 'Katbot' will grow as a learner each episode.
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Can you become your own writing coach?
What happens when Katbot becomes Kathleen's writing mentor?
On the podcast you'll hear what Katbot makes of Kathleen's poem:
Her Glasses
We beg her
Not to change
Tortoise-shelled frames.
Forget fashion and
Buddhist ways; we have
Pure attachment to a
Literary device on
Gold-hooped ears.
If you'd like to write a new poem along with Kathleen we'd love to read it!
You can send us a voice memo:
www.unhingedcollaboration.com
What's the future of digital twinning for educators? Perhaps the best way to predict the future is to experiment with the technology today.
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This is the episode of summer reflection for Kathleen and Tricia (and...Katbot). They also discuss their summer workouts and favorite foods. Kathleen shares her daily walks and encounters with a friendly dog, while Tricia talks about her gardening and experimenting with tofu marinades. They also discuss their pre-talk rituals, with Kathleen reframing anxiety as excitement and focusing on storytelling, and Tricia emphasizing the importance of connecting with the audience through stories.
Here are the many many resources they discuss:
Robots and the People Who Love Them
https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250122209/robotsandthepeoplewholovethem
Miley Cyrus - "The Climb":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG2zyeVRcbs
Mary Oliver - "Felicity":
https://lambdaliterary.org/2016/04/felicity-by-mary-oliver/
Kristin Hannah - "The Women":
https://kristinhannah.com/books/the-women/
Chappell Roan - "Red Wine Supernova (Tiny Desk Concert)":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4WiXKGCJhg
Explaining the ‘It’s Shark Week” comment
https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/how-gov-gretchen-whitmer-is-leading-during-a-really/id1643307527?i=1000661886267
John Bates - Executive Speaking Success: Kathleen credits John Bates for his speaking advice.
https://johnbates.com/
Thich Nhat Hanh - "Every Step":
https://www.parallax.org/product/peace-is-every-step/
Have a question about Katbot?
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In this episode Kathleen (actual Kathleen) responds to a listener who wrote in to learn more about how Kathleeen (again, real Kathleen) became the mentor she is today.
We use that conversation to try to 'feed' Katbot. Stay tuned for Katbot's insights and an experiment in 'reflection 2.0'
Want to send us a voice memo?
www.unhingedcollaboration.com
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In this episode, Tricia talks about two thinkers who have influenced her thoughts about the Katbot experiment:
Dr. Ruha Benjamin, specifically her new book IMAGINATION: A MANIFESTO
https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324020974
Holly Herndon's work, music and thoughts on 'identity play'
Explore her TED talk https://www.ted.com/talks/holly_herndon_what_if_you_could_sing_in_your_favorite_musician_s_voice/transcript?subtitle=en
The ALA Information Literacy Framework:
https://www.ala.org/acrl/standards/ilframework#:~:text=The%20Framework%20opens%20the%20way,themselves%20in%20that%20research%3B%20and
Want to try out the quiz Katbot and Kathleen took for this episode?
https://www.autostraddle.com/quiz-plan-a-90s-trip-to-the-mall-and-ill-tell-you-which-90s-pop-hit-you-are/
Reach out to us with your questions
Want to send a voice memo to us?
https://unhingedcollaboration.com/
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In this episode we invite Katbot to ask Kathleen a question. We look at Katbot's predicted answer as well as the insights she takes from the real Kathleen's answer.
We also test Katbot to see what she's learning.
Connect with us on LinkedIn for more, or email [email protected] with questions.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathleen-naglee-4b199b11/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/tricia-friedman-allyed/
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In this episode, we explore the profound impact of the decisions we make early in our careers and how they shape our journey toward leadership. Kathleen Naglee, shares her personal experiences, reflecting on the moments that defined her path to becoming a head of school.
We also discuss the importance of self-awareness, the power of play, and the role of confidence in navigating the challenges of leadership. Whether you're just starting out or already on your leadership journey, this episode hopes to inspire you to think about what it means to lead.
This mini series also introduces you to 'Katbot.'
Have a question for her?
email us:
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Amala runs the first secondary level programme and qualification designed with and for refugee youth. We also offer Changemaker Courses in areas such as Peace-building, Ethical Leadership, and Social Entrepreneurship. This week Kathleen and Tricia speak with a learning lead from Amala: Fatima Abualenein.
Fatima helps us better understand what truly transformational learning is and what a human-centered approach to teaching can be.
Connect with our special guest:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/fatima-abualenein/
Learn more about Amala:
https://www.amalaeducation.org/
Reach out to Tricia and Kathleen with your question:
Tricia(@)shiftingschools.com
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Dr. Alexandra Simond discusses her unique perspective on science communication and the importance of information flow, storytelling, and creating a conducive learning environment. She also addresses the challenges faced by women in academia. Dr. Simond also shares personal experiences and insights from her TEDx talk.
Connect with our guest:
https://twitter.com/alexsimond_phd?lang=en
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-simond-phd-b2732a7a/?originalSubdomain=ca
Want to submit a question or idea for our micro podcast series where we talk about your question or topic?
Email us! Tricia (at) shiftingschools.com
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On this week is special guest Maliha Iqbal.
Maliha Iqbal is a consultant for international schools. She has extensive experience as a classroom teacher, particularly early childhood, as well as experience as an instructional coach for PreK through 5 in all curricular areas. Maliha is a math specialist (MSIS), trained for the implementation of the new science standards (NGSS), has done extensive work in training teams for C3 social studies framework, and has advanced training in Cognitive Coaching as well as Responsive Classroom and Social and Emotional Learning (SEL). She strongly believes in the Reggio Emilia philosophy and the role of the environment designed to be not only functional but also beautiful and reflective of a child’s learning.
Her favorite aspect of her role as an instructional coach and consultant is being involved in collaboration between teachers and administrators to further learning and better instruct students. We talk about her work with The Reggio Emilia philosophy, which emphasizes the environment as an educator, with intentional and purposeful design to support children's learning. Maliha reminds us that educators need to unlearn traditional practices and trust children with responsibility.
The conversation explores the impact of intentional design on learning spaces, emphasizing the importance of creating warm, inviting, and functional environments. We also discuss the significance of slowing down the learning process, extending learning beyond the classroom, and the value of decluttering and sustainability.
Ready to connect with our guest? https://malihaiqbal.com/maliha-iqbal/
Reach out to us to tell us more about your hopes for our next season: https://unhingedcollaboration.com/
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Abby Covert, an information architect, discusses the significance of language and the role of information in our lives. She explains that information is unique to each individual and is the result of data and content processing in our brains. Abby emphasizes the importance of understanding mental models and how they shape our perception of information. She also highlights the role of language in organizations and the need for clarity and consistency. Abby shares insights on the power of diagrams in sense-making and decision-making. She encourages individuals and teams to zoom out to gain a broader perspective and to live and lead by their values.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and the Definition of Information
05:23 The Role of Language in Organizations
11:33 Perfectionism and the Challenges of Making Sense
25:07 Living and Leading by Our Values
30:01 The Impact of Information Architecture on Media ConsumptionReady to Learn More with Abby Covert?
https://abbycovert.com/
What Do You Mean? Information architecture for kids (and their adults) - assemble with the authorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnTsKmsGmvw
Reach out to us and let us know what topic you want next season to focus on:
https://www.unhingedcollaboration.com
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