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This special epsisode for the finale of this season was recorded live at the Houses of Parliament with a panel of incredible women Brix Smith, Katie Waissel and Charlene Brown at a Whose Song is it Anyway? event. Pictures of the event are here: https://shorturl.at/mqHL6
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Thanks for listening to this season and sharing the epsiodes, hope you have enjoyed it and we will be back next year with something new!
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania -
Eve Horne - singer, songwriter, producer, executive director of the Music Producers Guild, founder of the Unheard Academy where she teaches female and non-binary people music production, and the host of the We Are The Unheard Podcast, amongst other things!
In this episode we talk about Eve’s journey from BRIT School, being signed, touring with a girl group, to leaving the music industry and then returning with a massive come back and now doing all. the. things! Eve also talks about her recent ADHD and autism diagnosis.
https://wearetheunheard.com/
https://www.instagram.com/eve_horne/?hl=en-gb
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/we-are-the-unheard/id1599492855
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
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*trigger warning* mentions reports of sexism and misogyny from Musicians' Union members, including sexual harassment and sexual assault.
Naomi Pohl is the General Secretary of the Musicians' Union, a trade union for professional musicians in the UK. Naomi is the first women to hold this position in the MU. We talk about her experience of being the first and being a woman in a position of leadership, the specific pressures and challenges faced by women in leadership as well as generally by the MU membership. Naomi highlights actions that can be taken to improve inclusion and safety in the music industry from changing the law to changes within the industry.
https://musiciansunion.org.uk/
https://musiciansunion.org.uk/news/naomi-pohl-first-female-general-secretary
https://committees.parliament.uk/work/6736/misogyny-in-music/
https://www.helpmusicians.org.uk/get-support/bullying-harasment
https://musiciansunion.org.uk/safespace
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
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Michelle Escoffery is an award winning singer-songwriter, has taught as a lecturer at various institutions, is President of the PRS Members’ Council and on Ivor’s Academy Trustee Board.
We talk about Michelle’s experience of coming into the music industry as part of a musical family from a young age. I ask Michelle what has been the enablers and challenges that she has faced and overcome to succeed in the music industry. She highlights the power of mentorship, shares advice for overcoming imposter syndrome, being comfortable taking up space, focusing on what you bring to the table and capabilities. Pushing back against being pigeon holed and breaking out of boxes. Being on the journey of self-compassion. Have a network, to bounce ideas, share tips and experiences. Michelle shares about the PRS affinity groups which creates safe spaces for particular groups, providing support in a way that is solution based, rather than an echo chamber.
Michelle is also a qualified wellness consultant, and has developed an initiative called Pause, which creates a safe space for women of colour in the creative industries, focused on networking, support and wellness. Michelle shares some insights into her approach to embracing joy and maintaining boundaries.
https://www.prsformusic.com/about-us/governance/president-of-the-prs-members-council
https://www.michelleescoffery.com/
https://www.instagram.com/pause.theinnercircle/
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
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Dyvr is a musician, creative and activist working in the queer community and the founder of live music safe space, Sounds Queer. Dyvr talks about their experience of being in music, highlighting the challenges faced by non-binary and trans artists in the industry, sharing why they founded Sounds Queer and how that is creating a safe space for queer artists to grow.
https://www.instagram.com/dyvrofficial/
https://www.instagram.com/soundsqueersounds/?hl=en-gb
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
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Singer, songwriter Imogen Heap is known for her music making as much as for her innovation and pioneering approach to music, from her Mimu gloves to the Creative Passport.
In this episode Imogen shares her journey to a recent ADHD diagnosis and navigating the world with ADHD. We talk about the positives and the challenges of being neurodivergent, and how important it is to support each other, especially children, to thrive in our own ways.
The book’s that Imogen mentions:
Better Late Than Never: Understand, Survive and Thrive a Midlife Diagnosis of ADHD by Emma Mahony and Sari Solden
Dirty Laundry: Why adults with ADHD are so ashamed and what we can do to help by Richard Pink and Roxanne Emery
http://imogenheap.com/
https://mimugloves.com/
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania -
Vick Bain is the founder of the The F List and is currently completing her PhD at Queen Mary University of London in the Centre for Research in Equality and Diversity looking at the experience of women in music. She was previously the Past President Independent Society of Musicians (ISM), the former CEO of the British Academy of Songwriters, Composers and Authors (the Ivor's Academy), and has been inducted into the Music Week Women in Music Awards Roll Of Honour and the BBC Radio 4 Woman’s Hour Music Powerlist.
In this episode Vick shares with us some initial insights from her PhD research and generally drawing from her wealth of experience in the music industry. We discuss the data, the pay gap and gender roles, and talk about both the challenges and the enablers for women and gender expansive people in the music industry.
https://thef-listmusic.uk/
https://vbain.co.uk/
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
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Trigger warning: Discusses racism. Some swearing.
Charisse Beaumont is the Chief Executive of Black Lives in Music, a research and advocacy organisation advocating for black music creators and industry professionals. In this episode Charisse talks about the work that BLIM have been doing, the first research to be done on the experience of black people in the music industry, which highlights that black women are the most disadvantaged in the music industry. We talk about the pressure of being ‘the first’ and the sense of responsibility that comes with this kind of work. Charisse shares her experience of this overwhelming and heart-breaking journey, as well as how she deals with it and keeps on fighting.
https://blim.org.uk/
https://blim.org.uk/report/
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4 This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
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Helen Choudhury is an Equality, Diversity and Inclusion change management specialist and Head of Diversity, Equality and Inclusion Music Publishers Association. Helen tells us about how she got into this work and what she has been doing in her role at the MPA. Helen also shares about how her work has been informed by her experience of living with endometriosis and adenomyosis and talks us through the MPA M3 guidance on menstruation, miscarriage, and menopause. We explore the drop off women leaving the workplace due to lack of support for people experiencing challenges with menopause.
https://mpaonline.org.uk/diversity-equality-inclusion/helen-choudhury-champion-for-m%C2%B3-and-head-of-dei-statement/
https://mpaonline.org.uk/diversity-equality-inclusion/
https://www.ukmusic.org/equality-diversity/uk-music-diversity-report-2022/
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
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Cari Quoyeser is an indie rock singer, songwriter, lyricist, performer, artist, voice actor, and Global Artists Community Manager. Silvia Olivieri is a Publishing Program Manager, and previously collaborated with Imogen Heap on her research Life Of A Song and worked as Senior Copyright Assistant at Kobalt Music Publishing for three years.
In this episode, we talk about pushing back on the false narrative of women competing with each other, moving from first wave feminism that suggests that there is only room for one woman at the top, towards an intersectional feminism that is inclusive. We share our experiences of women supporting and nurturing each other in the music industry.
https://loas.creativepassport.net/
https://open.spotify.com/show/4dD3qEUU3S1ACAj0sPXh9H
Books we mention:
White feminism by Koa Beck
Why I am not a feminist by Jessa Crispin
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://shorturl.at/ezLX4
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
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Deputy Chief Executive at Help Musicians, Sarah Wood has been in the music industry around 30 years, so she draws on her breath of experience to discuss how things have changed overtime as a woman. We build on last week’s episode on the topic of coming back to work after having a child, Sarah’s experience was whilst working for a corporation rather than as a freelancer. We also talk about reflecting on your contribution, with a positive frame of mind to help build self-confidence and understanding your worth as well as up-skilling and believing in yourself to have the capacity to learn new things!
Sarah also gives some insight on the music industry landscape and the importance of the Musicians Census project to better understand the barriers faced to better support a more inclusive industry. She sets out what Help Musicians are doing to better engage with female and gender expansive musicians and the positive impact of a targeted approach, offering practical suggestions on gathering insight, engaging with the results, pro-actively driving change and constantly evaluating.
https://www.helpmusicians.org.uk/
https://www.helpmusicians.org.uk/get-support/bullying-harasment
https://www.helpmusicians.org.uk/about-us/news/take-the-first-ever-musicians-census
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2GEtEjJCghbMskOuFiDSq6?si=8cd4319c72684f4e
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
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Olga Fitzroy is a recording and mix engineer who has worked on records for Coldplay, The Foo Fighters and Muse, as well as film scores for top composers including Hans Zimmer and Dario Marianelli and assisted Sir George Martin on the last ever Beatles recording for the 2006 album, Love.
We talk about the challanges of having a child as a freelancer working in the music industry. Olga is campaigning to change the law, she highlights issues around childcare and parental leave, talks us through what we can do to get involved in the campaign as well as what to do in the meantime, whilst the law is still catching up.
http://www.olgafitzroy.com/
http://www.parentalpayequality.org.uk/
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2GEtEjJCghbMskOuFiDSq6?si=8cd4319c72684f4e
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
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Grace Meadows is Campaign Director at Music for Dementia, music therapist and Bassoon player. We talk about the gift of music and the power of music therapy, and how we can harness this power to help build connections and alleviate our struggles with mental and physically health conditions.
Grace shares her journey from music school to music for dementia, her experience of the music industry community. How do you know how much to charge for your time? And how is that impacted by your confidence in your expertise and expectations in the industry.
https://musicfordementia.org.uk/
https://www.marinalsop.com/
Here's a playlist of guest's answer to the last question: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2GEtEjJCghbMskOuFiDSq6?si=8cd4319c72684f4e
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
Recorded at Abbey Road Studios
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Trigger warning: Mentions sexual harassment, some swearing.
Chess shares her experience of being a woman in music, and why she is so motivated to help make the industry a safer place. We air our frustrations on navigating the terrain of being friendly and networking and asserting boundaries whilst still being acceptable and not missing out on opportunities. We also talk about how the industry needs make more of an effort to hire more women, festival line ups were only 13% women in 2022! Women need more opportunity to make the industry more inclusive and fairer.
If you work in music and are concerned about a bullying or harassment situation, you can receive non-judgemental support and advice by calling the Help Musicians helpline confidentially for free on 0800 088 2045 or you can report via the Musicians Union Safe Space Scheme www.musafespace.org.uk
http://www.chessgalea.com/
https://www.instagram.com/thebigvagenergypod
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
Recorded at Abbey Road Studios -
Nadia Khan has been in the music industry for over 20 years, doing many things including music management, founding Women in CTLR - which empowers women into positions of leadership - and is Chair of AIM.
Nadia shares her inspiring story of how she came to her career, through nothing short of resilience and persistence, we talk about the constant battle of pushing back on gender norms and assumed gender roles, as well as pay gap and representation in the music industry.
https://womeninctrl.com
https://twitter.com/NadiaCTRL
https:/www.aim.org.uk
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
Recorded at Abbey Road Studios
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Trigger warning: Discusses racism, some swearing
Stephanie Haughton-Campbell is Director of Operations at UK Music and has over 30 years’ experience in the music industry. Stephanie shares her experience of racism and the challenges of being a Black woman in the music industry. As a woman in a position of leadership, Stephanie talks about what she thinks makes a good leader and how damage can be done if leadership is not done properly.
Links to things mentioned in this episode:
https://www.ukmusic.org/about/team/stephanie-haughton-campbell/
https://www.ukmusic.org/news/voices-uk-musics-stephanie-haughton-campbell-celebrates-music-industry-women-on-international-womens-day/
https://www.ukmusic.org/equality-diversity/uk-music-diversity-report-2022/
https://www.shesaid.so/
https://womeninctrl.com/
https://remiharrisconsulting.com/musicleadersnetwork/
https://www.catsmother.co.uk/about-us
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania twitter.com/elizakania
Recorded at Abbey Road Studios
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Hazel Savage is VP Music Intelligence at SoundCloud and has worked in the music industry for over 15 years, from HMV, to Shazam, to creating her own AI company, Musiio. She was also in an all-female punk band, and you can tell. This women’s energy and spirit is infectious, you won’t be able to listen to this episode without feeling elevated and motivated!
Hear about how Hazel’s adventures of being a yes person led her to Australia, the launch party of Reggae Reggae Sauce, co-founding Musiio and selling it to SoundCloud. From this journey, she shares insightful reflections and useful advice about when to say yes, when to quit, and something she wishes she had learnt sooner… And, as if that wasn’t enough, find out how Shazam worked before smartphones!
https://www.musiio.com/
https://conference.measureofmusic.com/
All the guests on this season are asked about their favourite female music makers, you can find a playlist of all their answers on Spotify and Apple Music called 'Whose Song is it Anyway? Women in Music.'
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher https://www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania https://twitter.com/elizakania
Recorded at Abbey Road Studios -
Welcome to Season three of the podcast! This episode explains why this season is different and what to expect...
This season is produced and hosted by Hayleigh Bosher https://www.instagram.com/hayleigh.bosher/
Edited by Eliza Kania https://twitter.com/elizakania
Recorded at Abbey Road Studios
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Steve Tempest AKA DJ S.K.T is a DJ, Producer and Label Manager. In this episode we talk about music sampling (of the composition and/or the master), fair deals and arrangements for song splits and joint ownership when creating music. Steve also shares his experience with getting back to live gigs after the pandemic.
https://clubsweat.lnk.to/GotYourMoneyFa
Producer and co-host: Hayleigh Bosher
Co-host: Jules O'riordan
Editor: Eliza Kania
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Jane Dyball is a long time music industry executive, working mostly in publishing from Virgin, Warner and ran MCPS Collecting Society. More recently she runs her own consultancy business. Looking back over the historical developments in the music industry during Jane’s career, of which there were many. Jane shares her experience of being on the publishing side of the changes brought into the music industry from ringtones, to downloads and then streaming services as well as the efficiency and structural developments of the collection societies.
https://www.laffittesltd.com/
Producer and co-host: Hayleigh Bosher
Co-host: Jules O'riordan
Editor: Eliza Kania
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