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Leaders, who’s really running the business? Is it you, or is it your inner child in the boardroom chair, with all of your messy, unresolved childhood patterns, triggers, and attachment styles running the show?
Here to help us find the healed, playful inner child is Jason Perelso! He has spent the past quarter of a century helping brilliantly flawed humans to better understand themselves, destigmatize their triggers, step into vulnerability, and become emotionally mature, self-aware leaders.
Together we explore how to heal the boardroom, learn from our inner child, and make leadership decisions without them calling the shots!
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The role of unresolved childhood patterns and emotional regulation in leadershipAnd why leaders so often make decisions from a place of childhood experienceHow to gain awareness of our triggers in order to destigmatize themThe relationship between attachment theories and leadership stylesHow to become the healed, playful inner child with innovation at the heartDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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Stale, stuffy boardrooms, awkwardly arranged furniture, and scratchy marker-pens that have nearly run dry. A facilitator’s lament – and perhaps, our worst enemy.
Tired of the constant shapeshifting to squeeze into spaces that were never meant for facilitation, Matt Homann moved into the business of hosting people – in his own space. He built Filament, a facilitation space with a codified approach at its core, to help people to meet, think and learn better, freeing creativity from logistical limitations, and making sure a terrible workshop never has to happen again.
We talk about how space liberates us, the structures that spark the best conversations, and why simplicity always wins over complexity. Join us!
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The role of environment in facilitation – and why it’s your most powerful toolWhy owning your own facilitation space allows you to experiment, ideate quickly, shift group dynamics, and design for interactionWhy facilitation tools and frameworks need to be simple and memorableWhy the best facilitators often don’t carry the titleDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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One of the greatest paradoxes of leadership is that to lead well, you must learn to let go. To get comfortable with not having all the answers! To release your grip, relinquish control, and know that the wisdom already exists in everyone around you.
Professor, coach and facilitator to the next generation of leaders, Rob Lion has spent the last 20 years fostering self-leading workplace cultures that truly listen to their people, building leaders that are facilitators at heart.
Because the best leaders? They’ve taken off the stabilisers of delegation, left their ego at the door, and learnt the delicate dance of stepping back, to invite others to step in.
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The intersection of leadership and facilitation – and what it takes to be a facilitative leaderWhy we should think with our whole bodies, rather than just listen to our gutThe complex, nuanced role of surrender and controlWhy leadership micromanagement and delegation are safety mechanismsWhy great leaders and facilitators must learn to confront their own triggersDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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Context is everything. But when we remove ourselves from the tried-and-tested playing board of our work environment, to rewrite the rules and become new characters on fresh, unchartered ground? Everything changes.
On a mission to create a world where people play to learn, Mohsin Memon returns to the show, now as the mastermind of Evivve. His new multiplayer, leadership strategy simulation immerses teams in safe, fictional worlds rooted in neuroscience – designed to create powerful learning opportunities and realisations rooted in truth.
A conversation filled with lightbulb moments, rich insights and lots of learnings for leaders and facilitators alike. Press play!
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The AFFER model that underpins Mohsin’s work in behavioural changeThe five behavioural learning cycle stages of activation, forecasting, experimentation, realisation and reflectionWhy the most effective leaders are those who can make sense of complexityHow simulation can democratise an organisation, without hierarchy or expectationThe biggest data learnings from Evivve’s 20,000 game containersDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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More information about AFERR
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If facilitation was a mirror, what would you see? Would there be frameworks propping you up, a lingering desire to be liked, or insecurities sat atop your shoulder, quietly whispering in your ear?
In his new book Facilitating Reflections, the one and only Thomas Lahnthaler holds up this mirror for us all. He invites us to go inward, to step out of the buzzword charade, to close the theory books, and to rethink what we know – because the best facilitation isn’t found in a textbook, but when we can see ourselves a little clearer.
Together, we journey through two decades worth of Thomas’ facilitation learnings, exploring chapters, ideas, stories, and the rich spaces between facilitation and self. What a joy!
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The art of self-exploration, and why it’s so necessary for facilitators to masterNavigating the desire to be liked, belonging, and falling in love with the groupWhy facilitation, by default, is disruptive and therefore a threat to psychological safetyThe binary of good vs. bad facilitation – can it really exist?The important role that context, values and presence plays in facilitationDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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Curation is far more than an artistic act – it is a political one! It’s what’s to leave in, what to take out, what to filter and what to frame. And through this sense-making assembly, it becomes an invitation: to pay attention, to expand our minds, and to stumble into serendipitous encounters.
And nothing masters this quite like TED. Curator of ideas, and a 20-year shaper of the TED conferences, Bruno Giussani helped make the cultural institution what it is today – he joins me to dissect the art and science of facilitation’s dear cousin, and why now, more than ever, curation is so necessary.
Hear the creative workings of the Ted stage, the evolution of TedX, and why Bruno believes ‘content’ is a wrecking ball to culture. This is a conversation you won’t want to miss!
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The cultural responsibility of curation in our desensitised age of informationThe polarities of algorithmic filters, and real-life, intimate, theatrical curationHow to curate engagement with care, while gently bursting the filter bubbleHow the TED stage was built to blend intimacy with visual impactThe use of music to primes new moods, neutralise tastebuds and signal art as part of the conversationDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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Hailing from Quaker circles and Berkeley’s grassroots community movements in the 1960s, is the sagacious Parker J. Palmer – activist, facilitator, teacher and author. His unconventional entry into facilitation was piqued by a fascination with circle-work, which inspired a 30+ year career spent holding space for the mutable truth to emerge.
This is a wise, thoughtful conversation grounded in a lifetime of Parker’s lived experiences. From authoring your own life, to questioning the truth with kindness, being aware of hubris and approaching facilitation with fresh curiosity every day.
There’s an incredible amount to learn from Parker in our conversation alone, and I hope you’re as inspired as I was!
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The confluence of facilitation, writing and teachingWhy safe spaces are an on-going practice, requiring facilitator’s to protect individuals from judgement and criticismUnderstanding the concept of ‘truth’ amongst a group of different perspectivesThe importance of allowing groups to sit in reflection, before rushing to problem-solveWhy every group workshop must be approached with fresh eyesDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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Center for Courage and Renewal
Living the Questions with Parker J. Palmer
Parker J Palmer Publications
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How do we host ourselves as facilitators – and how do we host others? How do we grow bigger minds to meet the complexity out there, and then rest in it without needing to know the answers?
Marco Valente joins me for a big, juicy and mind-opening conversation as we navigate the inner workings of the growing self – and the leader – to better understand the messy, unpredictable complexities of our world. It’s about walking up to our mind’s balcony in search of self-awareness and inner presence, it’s about getting vulnerable in our wrongness, and getting comfortable with the unknown.
Marco shares his thoughts, leadership advice and hosting tips with beautiful eloquence and I invite every leader, facilitator and sense-maker to press play to this wonderful episode.
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The mind trap of identity, ego and feedbackThe evolutionary pulls of fear - how much helps or hinders us?Why KPIs can harm the collective, rather than help with long-term growthThe paradox of learning more facilitation methods, in order to detach ourselves from them The balancing act of structure and emergence to accurately address group needsDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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Helping people to do their best thinking, is Amanda Cookson. A coach, facilitator and all-round neuroscience whizz, she’s made it her mission to help leaders better understand what it means to be human.
And it all starts with our own thinking-feeling, wildly brilliant, untamed brain! She guides us through its inner workings with effervescence and passion, showing us how to work with it – rather than against it – steer pulse-quickening conversations towards oxytocin, and design experiences that help rewire the brain for real, lasting change.
An energising, thoughtful conversation, full of golden mind-training nuggets to try in both facilitation, and life!
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Why the discomfort of cognitive dissonance can lead to richer learningsThe power of asking great questions in search of answers that ignite deep thinkingAmanda’s feelings-based ground rules of presence, curiosity and generosityFriends vs Foe: how to turn self-fulfilling prophecies into human connection How to facilitate with the brain in mind, for insight, rather than informationDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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The greatest myth of creativity? It doesn't fall from the sky into our laps like Isaac Newton’s apple! Creativity is far from that romantic, eureka moment, but rather it is messy, cultivated, and curiosity made manifest.
Luckily for us, Amy Climer has created a system to go about finding this elusive, but valuable novelty with intention – consistently and at scale. A TEDx speaker, trainer and author of the book ‘Deliberate Creative Teams: How to Lead for Innovative Results’, Amy’s work is a creative panacea for leaders, managers and facilitators in search of better ideas.
From positive feedback fertilisers, to creative learnings from Thomas Edison, she shares her process and the ingredients you’ll need to succeed.
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The three pillars of creative teams: purpose, dynamics and processWhy conflict is a necessary means to recognise and embrace differenceWhy leaders must intentionally design for collaboration, or risk jeopardising the collectiveHow to cultivate the internal team conditions to allow for creativityDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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Deliberate Creative Teams Book: climerconsulting.com/book
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When you think of an intelligent person, who do you imagine? Perhaps they’re scholarly, quick-thinking, or possess a rare ability to seemingly know all that there is to know.
But intelligence is infinitely more than this! As Daniel Susser teaches us this week, intelligence is greater than the sum of our cognitive parts: it is bodily, inter-connected and contextual. It is a tapestry of inherited, micro influences that makes us each see the macro world in different ways.
So if intelligence is collective, how can leaders unlock it from the organisational organism? Daniel shares all in this fascinating, wordly conversation that dances so beautifully between science, religion and ritual.
It will stretch your thinking and leave you with a whole host of practical tips to extract, celebrate and journey into the intelligence of your organisation!
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What it means to be an Intelligent Team - and how we can create themWhy organisations must reject their implicit assumptions about what ‘intelligence’ meansWhat macrocognition means in organisationsIntroducing organisational rituals for collaboration, belonging and shared purposeHow leaders can identify imbalances in their organisations using opponent processingDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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find out how to work with Daniel embodiedagility.co.uk
Read more about intelligent teams intelligentteams.substack.com
A good starting point is this blog https://intelligentteams.substack.com/p/the-intelligent-teams-manifesto
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For every word we swallow, every moment we dilute ourselves, and every time we say ‘yes’ when really, we want to say ‘no’, we collect a pebble into our backpack of life.
The fantastic duo that is Pete Jordan and Tuulia Syvänen from Honesty Europe join us this week to help us offload these pebbles: showing us the way to live lightly, freely, and in a radical act of resistance, to be ourselves! We explore honesty as a practice of presence, we dig at the roots of interpersonal triggers, and most important of all - we learn how to ask for what we want, when we’ve been conditioned not to - even if it means dancing in the face of rejection.
If you’re a chronic people pleaser perpetually in search of the peace, this conversation is for you!
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Learning to ask people to meet our needs - whether the answer is yes, or noThe act of expressing suppressed emotions, to clear space for deeper connectionHow to tune into bodily sensations and remain present, during vulnerable interactions or boundary settingWhy a little discomfort is the price we must pay to be true to ourselvesHow to acknowledge personal judgements in a way that diffuses their powerDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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What does facilitation have in common with quantum physics? What do organisations have to do with molecules? And why when you ask a question, are you playing around with someone’s mind?
All will be revealed this week with Jimmie White! A seven-times best-selling author, an indomitable facilitator that has trained The Peace Corps and supported NASA with somatic integration, and in a past life, a teacher of ballroom dancing.
It’s perhaps not surprising then, that Jimmie’s facilitation is alive with somatic movement, storytelling - and even neuroscience. It’s something Jimmie calls ‘Walking Your Story’: a physical navigating of group narratives, helping us to rewrite our stories, explore multiple outcomes, and bond with others in the steps we take.
Press play for an incredible, expansive conversation!
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Jimmie’s ‘Walking Your Story’ method, and how it can foster deep reflection, transformation and connectionThe Observer Effect of Quantum Physics and what it means for facilitationHow physical movement can change our relationship with past storiesThe methods of somatic storytelling and socratic thinkingThe importance of fostering psychological safety in personal storytellingDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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"Designing & Leading Life-Changing Workshops: Creating the Conditions for Transformation in Your Groups, Trainings, and Retreats" by Ken Nelson, Lesli Lang, David Ronka, Korabek-Emerson and Jim White
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Sometimes, just sometimes, you meet someone who is a balm to the soul, who speak words of wisdom, magic, and nurturing depth. Quanita Roberson has this gift - and she returns to the show to share it with us once again!
Mingling spiritual intelligence with raw human experience, Quanita guides us generously through the messy yet beautiful terrain of healing, as we trace emotions back to their source and learn how to step away from adolescent adulthood.
She brings us into the heart of questions like: how do we grieve? What does courage really mean? And why do people find it easier to talk about gender than race?
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Why shame, blame and guilt are not emotions, but rather where we go to hide from themThe initiations of our life, and why we must embrace crumbling to make space for the newThe importance of going inwards to find our wisdom to help the worldWhy there aren’t different ways to grieve, but rather different ways to avoid itThe importance of embodying our emotions, allowing them to move through usDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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A pair of flimsy plastic headphones, a voice in your ears bombarding you with dates, names and historical periods, and a momentary pause at each work of art as you side-step the seemingly disinterested guided tour.
If this sounds familiar, then museum facilitator and author Claire Bown is here to bring the museum alive for you! She reimagines the experience by making space for curiosity, conversation and participant-led interaction, turning passive presentations and fleeting glances into a treasure trove of stories, deep connection and meaning.
Join Claire to slow down, welcome in a little more wondering, and discover what museum exploration can teach us about the art of participation.
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The role of the museum environment in facilitating the experienceStrategies for engagement, from visual thinking to slow lookingWhy we must give space for observation, before jumping into explanationHow to achieve equal participation by re-designing group formationHow to acknowledge and invite in existing knowledge from the groupDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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Can we explore the future as if it were an archaeological site? Instead of predicting trends or following hype cycles, future archaeologist Markus Iofcea uncovers artifacts - fragments of possible futures - that help us rethink what’s to come.
Future archaeologist, co-author of the book Zurück zur Zukunft, and all-round inspiring mind, Markus Iofcea, is here to tell us that yes, the future can be ours to create! He digs in the future to see what treasures he can find in its vast archeological site - except his artefacts aren’t the rare remnants of a civilisation gone-by, but rather inventions we are yet to make. Inventions that could change the world!
From there, he hypothesises his discoveries infinitely - helping organisations to philosophically explore contexts, variations and parameters to test if an innovation will work well beyond our current, limiting reality.
This was one of those rare, fascinating conversations that you won’t want to miss - thank you for setting my mind alight, Markus!
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What future archaeology is and how Markus explores the possibilities of the futureFuture artefacts: what they are, how to dig them out, and how to innovate themThe importance of removing an artefact from our current context to prepare for the unknownWhy we must ‘dig’ at an innovation for as long as possible, interrogating its logical componentsHow Markus helps the corporate world to excavate innovations, free from limitations and predictionsDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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Facilitation isn’t just about guiding a process—it’s about creating meaning. And in this episode, Jim Kalbach, author of The Jobs To Be Done: Align Your Markets, Organization, and Strategy Around Customer Needs, shares how facilitation and Jobs to Be Done (JTBD) go hand in hand.
We dive into the art of moving from insight to action, exploring how facilitators and leaders can use JTBD to break through assumptions, foster collaboration, and design experiences that truly serve the people they’re meant for.
Jim shares his own journey—from journey mapping to facilitation—revealing how shifting the focus from solutions to human needs changes everything.
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Why facilitation isn’t just about neutrality—it’s about shaping meaningful outcomesThe power of customer journey maps as tools for conversation and sense-makingHow Jobs to Be Done helps teams focus on real human needs, not just solutionsWhy co-creation leads to better collaboration, alignment, and decision-makingHow to avoid “workshop amnesia” and keep momentum alive after a sessionPractical ways to embed customer-centric thinking into everyday workDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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It’s an art form, but it’s not rocket science. It’s courageous, but it’s not not cushy or comforting. And it’s saying no in meaningful ways, rather than saying yes to everything.
Psychological safety is as much about what it’s not, as what it is. It’s a phenomenon that’s nuanced, ephemeral and often misconceived, asking all of us - facilitator and participant - to hold out our arms to discomfort, take risks, make mistakes and dance in our humanness.
But to achieve it, and then keep it alive for everyone, takes great self-awareness, emotional regulation - and for us facilitators to feel safe first. Join me for a special solo episode - an hour dedicated entirely to the art of psychological safety!
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My 4 practical tips for leaders to create psychological safety around youAnd 4 ways leaders can build psychological safety for themselvesBeyond the buzzword, what does it really mean to achieve psychological safety?Why small mistakes can evolve into bigger risks when safety is absentMaking every voice count, and feel safe, with the power of using “Yes, and ___”The importance of cultivating your own emotional literacy and setting boundariesDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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As executive coach Akshay Kapur will tell you, silence isn’t just a pause - but spaciousness that allows for someone to jump into its still, shiny waters.
And our conversation this week was a celebration of these gorgeous, ripe spaces in between. The moments before asking the right question, the invitation that comes before an answer, and the needs that reveal themselves when we listen deeply, and lean in with full, unbridled curiosity.
Akshay brings beautiful, articulate thoughts to some facilitation truths, sharing how he steps from coach to facilitator, and finds his wisdom from the unknown.
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Where facilitation and coaching meet, and where they departHow to create space for participants to reflect and engage in thoughtful dialogueThe importance of asking the right question, by interrogating the need behind the need and being prepared for a potential trauma responseWhy facilitation can teach us something about ourselves every time we leave the roomTuning into the different energetic requirement of in-person and online facilitationDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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Bringing beautiful indigenous wisdom to the complexities of trauma-resolution is Louise Marra. A facilitator and occasional human-fielder, Louise joins me for a conversation about finding our way back: to a healed state, to the earth, to ourselves.
Louise opens up her trauma first aid kit in episode 309: what to do when trauma arises in group dynamics, how to resource yourself, how to reroot the fields of organisational trauma, and what to do in a state of freeze.
Once we can unlearn our patterns, we can begin to repair our ruptures, and return to the healed place we once inhabited. What a treat it was to have this important, life-affirming conversation with Louise!
Find out about:
The different types of inherited trauma that can affect group work - and how facilitators can hold space for participantsThe paradox of psychological safety, from confrontation to weaponisationConstellation work: what it is and how you can use it to access fields of intelligenceThe process of ‘rupture and repair’ to retune the muscles of traumaWhat organisational trauma means and how we can supports its healingHow to work with our own triggers in order to growDon’t miss the next episode: subscribe to the show with your favourite podcast player.
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