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  • Jason Hehir who is a documentary filmmaker whose subjects have included cultural icons Andre the Giant, Michael Jordan and Elvis Presley among others. We talked about those films and his recent HBO series, Murder in Boston. It was a far ranging conversation touching on topics ranging from race, reckoning with our past and what makes for a successful life. I hope you enjoy it.

    Jason Hehir

    Andre the Giant

    The Last Dance

    Murder in Boston

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    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • Mark R. Rank is recognized as a foremost expert on issues of poverty, inequality and social justice. To date he has written 10 books on a range of subjects, including an exploration of the American Dream and a new understanding of poverty and inequality. In this episode, I talk to Mark about his latest book, The Random Factor which looks at the role of luck and chance in shaping the course of our lives. It was a fascinating discussion, one I was lucky to have. I I hope you enjoy.

    Mark R. Rank

    The Random Factor

    Poverty Risk Calculator

    Your American Dream Score

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    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

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  • Brittany Means is author of the critically acclaimed memoir, “Hell if We Don’t Change Our Ways”. Reviews have called it “gut-wrenching and triumphant.” “Readable and rigorous.” “Brutal and beautiful.’ At its heart, it is a book about family. as Means recounts her complex relationships with her mother, father, brother, and grandparents and eventual guardians. What does it mean when those closest to us hurt us? Is understanding or forgiveness even possible? How do children make it through it all to find support and love? This was a particularly moving discussion. I hope you find it of value.

    Links to learn more about:

    Brittany Means

    Hell if We Don’t Change Our Ways

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    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • In communities across the country, including New York, library budgets and hours are being cut, just at a time when society needs them most. This is in spite of the incredible success that libraries have in bringing people, particularly older adults, together.

    Bob McKinnon, host of the podcast, Attribution talks with Eric Klinenberg, NYU sociologist and author of “Palace for the People” which examines the role that third places like libraries play in avoiding isolation. We’ll also hear from four Long Island librarians who are creating innovative programs for older adults that reduce isolation and build belonging.

    For more information, please visit:

    Palaces For The People: How Social Infrastructure Can Help Fight Inequality, Polarization, And The Decline Of Civic Life

    Eric Klinenberg

    Suffolk Cooperative Library System

    Brentwood Public Library

    Middle Country Public Library

    Riverhead Free Library

    Patchogue-Medford Library

    Libraries of Belonging is a WLIW-FM special program that is part of the “Aging Together in New York” initiative from public media stations focusing on social isolation and loneliness among older adults. This program is funded by the New York State Education Department.

    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • It is the simplest of tools designed to help us tackle the complexities of life. It helps reduce errors, remember what’s important, assess and reflect on what and how we’re doing. Pilots, astronauts, builders and surgeons use them to save lives.

    What is this elementary yet powerful tool? A checklist.

    Is it possible that a simple checklist could do for the growing issue of social isolation among older adults what previous versions have done for saving lives in surgery?

    Bob McKinnon, host of the podcast Attribution, talks to Sandy Markwood, CEO of US Aging, a national association representing and supporting the network of Area Agencies on Aging, and the organization behind the Social Isolation Self-Assessment Checklist to discuss the promise of this tool. At the end of the episode, listeners will have the opportunity to self-assess as we review each of the questions on the checklist.

    For more information on The Checklist and the resources mentioned in this program, please visit:

    US Aging

    Eldercare Locator

    Social Isolation Self-Assessment Checklist

    The Checklist is a WLIW-FM special program that is part of the “Aging Together in New York” initiative from public media stations focusing on social isolation and loneliness among older adults. This program is funded by the New York State Education Department.

    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • Stephanie Land is the New York Times bestselling author of Maid: Hard Work, Low Pay, and a Mother’s Will to Survive which is now the inspiration for the Netflix series of the same name. Her latest book, Class: A Memoir of Motherhood, Hunger and Higher Education is out now. During our conversation we talked about the challenges and judgment that she and other single moms have faced simply trying to create a better future for themselves and their children. This was an important conversation that I hope will change the way we see and support single mothers. I hope you enjoy.

    Links to learn more about:

    Stephanie Land

    Maid: Hard Work, Low Pay, and a Mother’s Will to Survive

    Maid Netflix limited series

    Class: A Memoir of Motherhood, Hunger and Higher Education

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    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • Christopher Zara is the News Editor at Fast Company. His recent memoir, Uneducated, explores his unlikely journey into the newsroom without the credential of a college degree. During our conversation we talked about both his own story but also more broadly about the role of education - higher and otherwise - in creating opportunities to climb the proverbial ladder.

    Links to learn more about:

    Christopher Zara

    Uneducated: A Memoir of Flunking Out, Falling Apart and Finding My Worth

    Fast Company

    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • Singer/songwriter Joy Oladokun is a master storyteller whose songs have been listened to over forty million times. Her latest album, Proof of Life is being heralded as her breakthrough. We talked about her journey as an artist and her process of making music that “helps myself and others process this world.”

    Links to learn more about:

    Joy Oladokun

    Proof of Life

    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by NPR station, WLIW-FM. You can listen on WLIW.org/radio or on NPR One mobile app as well as other major podcast networks.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • Larissa FastHorse is a 2020 MacArthur Fellow, award winning writer/choreographer, and co-founder of Indigenous Direction, the nation’s leading consulting company for Indigenous arts and audiences. With her latest work, The Thanksgiving Play, she became the first native American to have her play on Broadway. We talked about her journey to Broadway and how we connect with our culture and each other. I hope you enjoy.

    Links to learn more about:

    Larissa FastHorse

    The Thanksgiving Play

    Indigenous Direction

    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

  • Dr. Robert Waldinger, is clinical professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and Director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development. He is a practicing psychiatrist and psychoanalyst and also a Zen priest. We discussed his book The Good Life, co-authored with Marc Schulz, the central role of relationships in our life and what can undermine our ability to be socially fit. The conversation will challenge how and with whom you spend your time. I hope you enjoy.

    Links to learn more about:

    Robert Waldinger

    The Good Life

    Harvard Study on Adult Development

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    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • This bonus episode of Attribution, ‘Seeing Erin Hagerty’, was originally broadcast as a WLIW-FM special program and a part of Chasing the Dream: Poverty, Justice and Opportunity in America, a public media reporting initiative from The WNET Group.

    Erin Hagerty died last year at the age of 62. By most counts she lived an extraordinary life - simply by doing things many would consider ordinary. This is an examination not of what she did but how she was seen. By strangers, her family and most importantly how she saw herself.

    “Seeing Erin Hagerty” is a WLIW-FM special program and a part of Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative The WNET Group, reporting on Poverty, Justice and Opportunity in America.

    Bob McKinnon, host of the podcast Attribution, talks with Erin’s mother, her four siblings and documentary filmmaker and activist Dan Habib. Our hope for the next thirty minutes is that you simply see Erin for who she was. Perhaps it will change how you see others too.

    Links to learn more about:

    WLIW-FM

    Dan Habib

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    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • Richard Buery is CEO of Robin Hood, one of the nation’s leading anti-poverty organizations. Prior to this role, Rich had worked as Deputy Mayor of New York, where he was the key architect for the city’s Pre-K for All initiative. In our conversation, we talked about the many ways in which his work has attempted to alleviate scarcity by leveraging the abundant resources around us and his own background has informed his approach to service. I hope you enjoy.

    Links to learn more about:

    Richard Buery

    Robin Hood Foundation

    iMentor

    Pre-K for All

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    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • For the last thirty years, Dr. Deepak Chopra has been at the forefront of the meditation revolution. His 93rd book, Living in the Light written with Sarah Platt-Fingerwith. taps into the ancient Indian practice of Royal Yoga and offers an illuminating program for self-realization, bliss, and wholeness. TIME magazine has described Dr. Chopra as “one of their top 100 most influential people.” In our conversation we talk about this juxtaposition of “being vs. doing”, our journeys to self-realization and what it means to live in the light. While we discussed some heady stuff, it was a free-flowing and down to earth conversation. One I hope you find enlightening.

    Links to learn more about:

    Deepak Chopra

    Living in the Light

    Find out more: https://movingupusa.com/podcast

    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • Brandon Ogbunu is Assistant Professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology. While his research takes place at the intersection of evolutionary biology, genetics, and epidemiology, it all as he says stems from his own biography.His writing appears not just in academic journals but for Wired, The Atlantic and ESPN among other places. This was a deep and far reaching conversation about the intersection of science, identity and the questions we are driven to explore

    Links to learn more about:

    Brandon Ogbunu

    The Liberation of RNA - Radio Lab

    The Hidden Meanings of Gattaca - 25 Years Later

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    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • This bonus episode of Attribution, ‘The Great Gatsby: Then and Now’, was originally broadcast as a WLIW-FM special program and a part of Chasing the Dream: Poverty, Justice and Opportunity in America, a public media reporting initiative from The WNET Group.

    “I think that this is our great American novel about class. I think you see it on almost every page.”

    Bob McKinnon, host of the podcast Attribution, talks with Maureen Corrigan, book critic for NPR’s Fresh and The Nicky and Jamie Grant Distinguished Professor of the Practice in Literary Criticism at Georgetown University. They discuss her book “So We Read On: How The Great Gatsby Came To Be and Why It Endures.” and what The Great Gatsby can still teach us today, 100 years after the events in the novel take place.

    Links to learn more about:

    WLIW-FM

    Maureen Corrigan

    So We Read On: How the Great Gatsby Came to Be and Why It Endures

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    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • Emi Nietfeld is author of Acceptance: A Memoir. Her essays have appeared in New York Times, Longreads, Vice, and Boulevard. This was an incredibly moving and important conversation - one I hope you’ll listen to in its entirety as the ending is particularly poignant.

    This episode contains descriptions or mentions of eating disorders, mental health issues, and sexual abuse which some listeners may find disturbing. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know might be experiencing any of these issues, please reach out to the appropriate local resources/authorities. Here are some national organizations also providing support.

    National Eating Disorder Association

    National Alliance on Mental Illness

    RAINN (Rape, Abuse, Incest National Network)

    Links to learn more about:

    Emi Nietfeld

    Acceptance

    Horatio Alger Association



  • Dave Eggers is the acclaimed author of thirty books and the co-founder of several non-profit organizations including 826 Valencia and Voice of Witness. We talked about how we connect with each other, the importance of telling our own stories AND amplifying the voices of others. I hope you enjoy

    Links to learn more about:

    Dave Eggers

    Heroes of the Frontier

    The Every

    Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius

    Museum of Rain

    826 Valencia

    Voice of Witness

    Scholar Match

    Find out more: https://movingupusa.com/podcast

    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • Andrea Elliott has documented the lives of poor Americans, Muslim immigrants and other people on the margins of power. She is an investigative reporter for The New York Times and the author of Invisible Child, which has won the 2022 Pulitzer Prize in General Nonfiction. Her book and our conversation were eye-opening. I hope it helps you see better too.

    Links to learn more about:

    Andrea Elliott

    Invisible Child

    Find out more: https://movingupusa.com/podcast

    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • Kathryn Schulz is a Pulitzer Prize winning staff writer at The New Yorker and the author of Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of Error. Her latest book, Lost & Found, is a wonderful and beautiful read. Our conversation touched on topics like life, death, love and loss - helping me see each in a new light.

    Links to learn more about:

    Kathryn Schulz

    Lost & Found

    Being Wrong: Adventures in the Margin of Error

    When Shipping Containers Sink in the Drink

    The Moral Judgment of Henry David Thoreau

    Furious Hours

    Find out more: https://movingupusa.com/podcast

    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.

  • Darryl McDaniels is one of the founding members of the legendary hip hop group Run DMC. He is also the author of two memoirs, a line of comic books and a recent children’s book, Darryl’s Dream. This was an fascinating conversation that touched on many of the struggles that Darryl has faced during his incredible journey. This episode contains descriptions of suicidal ideation, alcoholism and depression, which some listeners may find disturbing. Listener discretion is advised.

    If you or someone you know might be considering suicide, please call the National Suicide Prevention Hotline at 1-800-273-8255. For crisis support in Spanish, call 1-888-628-9454.

    Links to learn more about:

    Darryl McDaniels

    Darryl’s Dream

    Run DMC

    Find out more: https://movingupusa.com/podcast

    HOST

    Bob McKinnon is a writer, designer, and teacher who asks us to reconsider the way we see success and the American Dream.

    His work has been featured in the New York Times, Boston Globe, Fast Company, NPR, and PBS.

    His own journey out of poverty was captured in his TEDx talk: How Did I End Up Here. Through his writing and this podcast, he hopes to pay tribute and thanks to all those who have helped him and others move up in life.

    CREDITS

    Attribution is distributed in part by Chasing the Dream, a public media initiative from PBS flagship station, WNET in New York, reporting on poverty, justice, and economic opportunity in America. You can learn more at pbs.org/chasingthedream.

    This show was edited by No Troublemakers Media. Music by Jonnie “Most” Davis.

    Our final credit goes to you, the listener, and to everyone who helped you get to where you are today. If this show has reminded you of someone in particular, make their day and let them know.