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  • Dr. Katharine Hayhoe’s research focuses on understanding what climate change means for people and the places where we live. She is the Horn Distinguished Professor of Public Policy and Public Law at Texas Tech University. Her book Saving Us: A Climate Scientist's Case for Hope and Healing in a Divided World, followed her 2018 TED Talk, “The most important thing you can do to fight climate change: talk about it.” The Guardian called her “a committed Christian who has gained a reputation for being able to reach across the most partisan of political divides.” ‘

    Resources from this episode:

    For climate communication and advocacy trainings, check out the Science Network Workshop Series from the Union of Concerned Scientists and read Work for Climate’s tips for talking about climate change at work.Subscribe to Talking Climate, Dr. Hayhoe’s weekly newsletter for good news, not so good news, and things you can do about climate change.Follow Dr. Hayoe on TikTok @dr.katharine and watch her PBS series Global Weirding for fact-based, practical, and hopeful lessons on climate change.If you want to push climate solutions from “the inside” of a workplace that is not doing anything, make sure you have a support network elsewhere. Try the Action Network’s Our Climate Voices or find your local Net Impact chapter.To understand more about how people in the US feel about climate change, and how it influences their actions, read this study from the Yale Program on Climate Change Communication. It will help you think about your approach beyond a believer versus denier binary.Dr. Hayoe recommends finding common ground through the things you love to do or ways you identify. For instance, she started a group called Science Moms, and recommends a blog called Fossil Free Football.

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    How a punk-rocking paralegal harnessed employee power to green MicrosoftHow Heather McTeer Toney is redefining climate action for the next generation of leadersYes, you can turn your climate anxiety into meaningful action

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    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk is our host. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Tressa Versteeg produced this episode. Mia Lobel is our story editor. Ayo Oti is our researcher. Engineering by Kevin Kline. Editing assistance on this episode from executive producer Elaine Appleton Grant. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Betony Jones is a nationally recognized expert in labor-climate issues, with a focus on the intersection between climate jobs, clean energy, and unions. As the director of the Office of Energy Jobs, she oversees workforce development strategies and engages with organized labor and other stakeholders to ensure that the Department of Energy’s (DOE) policies and program implementation result in high-quality jobs and economic equity. Previously, Jones was a senior advisor on workforce for the DOE’s Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy. She began her career working on climate science in the White House Office of Science and Technology policy in the Clinton Administration. From there, she spent 20 years researching the economic opportunities associated with climate action, including as associate director of the Green Economy program at the University of California Labor Center and as founder and CEO of Inclusive Economics, a national strategy firm working at the intersection of labor, workforce, and clean energy.

    Resources from this episode - how to learn more and where to apply:

    Through the Registered Apprenticeship Program, get paid to earn nationally recognized credentials and receive hands-on training and mentorship in industries like manufacturing, construction, energy, and transportation. Find information about opportunities and grants that fund clean energy and infrastructure projects—and the jobs that go with them— through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law launchpad.Read these GreenBiz articles on how to compete for the Department of Energy’s $97 billion in funding and three grants specific to renewable energy.The American Climate Corps is set to get 20,000 citizens into climate jobs. One of their first available programs is Forest Corps. Apply here. Want to work with Betony Jones? Here’s a fellowship at her department, the Office of Energy Jobs. How the Department of Energy supports retooling automotive factories for electric vehicle manufacturing.

    Clean energy fellowships, internships and other opportunities:

    Check out Sustainable Career Pathways’ list of 18 sustainability fellowships for students and working professionals.Read everything you need to know about an EDF Climate Corps Fellowship and tips on the application process. If you’re an undergraduate college student, consider the United Nations Academic Impact Millennium Fellowship, where you can make your campus more sustainable. For recent graduates, there’s the International Council on Clean Transportation Fellowship, which supports research on transportation policy around the globe; and the Women of Renewable Industries and Sustainable Energy has fellowships in both wind and solar energy. If you are working full or part time, there’s programs for you too! Check out fellowships with the Clean Energy Leadership Institute, Environmental Entrepreneurs (E2), and Climatebase.

    Must-reads on the impact of the legislation on climate jobs:

    Betony Jones’ article Good Jobs with Good Pay and Benefits are Key to Building the Clean Energy Future.How the Inflation Reduction Act is impacting green job creation, according to the World Economic Forum. The fact sheet on how the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL) will create, on average, 1.5 million jobs per year for ten years. Confused by the acronyms? Here’s the differences between the Inflation Reduction Act and Bipartisan Infrastructure LawLearn how the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and Inflation Reduction Act are making historic levels of funding available for fossil fuel communities in transition to clean energy.

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    How to solve the EV problem and a jobs problem at the same timeThis climate champion will upend the way you think about city government jobsThe EDF Climate Corps alumna greening the golden arches How a psychology major is on the frontlines of decarbonizing a global industry

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    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk is our host. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Tressa Versteeg produced this episode. Mia Lobel is our story editor. Ayo Oti is our researcher. Engineering by Andrew Parella and Daniel Chavez Crook. Editing assistance from executive producer Elaine Appleton Grant. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive. Additional music from Epidemic Sound.

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  • Rev. Dr. Ambrose F. Carroll, Sr., is the founder and CEO of Green The Church, a catalyst for environmentalism and sustainability built for and by the Black Church. Pastor Carroll serves on the National Environmental Justice Action Committee for the United States Environmental Protection Agency. He’s also been a fellow with the Atlantic Fellows for Racial Equity. He earned his B.A. in psychology from Florida Memorial University in Miami, FL, a Master of Divinity from Morehouse School of Religion in Atlanta, GA, a Master of Business Administration from Golden Gate University in San Francisco, CA, and a Doctor of Divinity from United Theological Seminary in Dayton, Ohio.

    Resources from this episode:

    Learn more about Green the Church.Read Rev. Dr. Ambrose F. Carroll’s bio.Watch Pastor Carroll give a sermon about climate change.The Van Jones book that inspired Carroll so much, “The Green Collar Economy.”Learn more about the Catholic Climate Covenant and Dan Misleh.Read the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops 2001 plea for dialogue and action on climate change.Learn more about Colorado Jewish Climate Action and Moshe Kornfeld.Learn more about Green Ramadan and Kori Majeed.Read Prof. Atul K. Shah’s bio.From Inside Climate News: “Religious Leaders May Be Key to Breaking Climate Action Gridlock, Poll Suggests”From The Tennessean: “Uneven Ground: Exceptional Black farmer and their fight to flourish in the South”

    Related episodes:

    Hollywood screenwriter and producer Scott Z. Burns on making climate change central to storytellingFrom mud cakes to high stakes with Youth Climate Collaborative’s Pooja TilvawalaEco-anxiety is fueling a new green career: climate psychologyWhy environmental justice is crucial for today’s climate careers

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk is our host. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Stephanie Wolf produced this episode. Mia Lobel is our story editor. Ayo Oti is our researcher and Audrey Nelson provided fact checking. Engineering by Matthew Simonson. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Solitaire is a renowned sustainability expert who works with some of the world’s most influential organizations. She is co-founder and Chief Solutionist at Futerra and trustee of the Solutions Union. In 2023 she was named ‘Agency Lead of the Year’ at Adweek’s Sustainability Awards. Her popular TED Talk, Forbes column and most recent book – The Solutionists: How Businesses Can Fix the Future – are available online.

    Resources from this episode:

    Learn about Futerra’s projects, including climate campaigns, sustainability training for businesses, and products incubator. Watch Solitaire’s 2021 TED Talk: Are ad agencies, PR firms and lobbyists destroying the climate?Check out Futerra’s web series, Solutions House. The series includes debates, presentations, and workshops — all with the motto of “Answers Only.”Read Solitaire’s latest book, The Solutionists: How Businesses Can Fix the Future, and her previous book, The Happy Hero: How to Change Your Life by Changing the World.Follow Solitaire’s column in Forbes.

    PR & Climate must reads:

    How PR companies hurt the climateFormer PR executive Christine Arena’s 2023 congressional testimony ”Clean creatives” campaign pushing PR firms to fire their fossil fuel clientsFossil fuel companies are paying influencersThe House Natural Resource Committee’s hearing about the role of public relations firms in preventing climate action

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    Hollywood screenwriter and producer Scott Z. Burns on making climate change central to storytellingLake Street Dive on music, activism, and braveryHow to green any job with Project Drawdown’s Jamie Beck Alexander

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk is our host. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Tressa Versteeg produced this episode. Mia Lobel is our story editor. Ayo Oti is our researcher. Engineering by Kevin Kline. Editing assistance from executive producer Elaine Appleton Grant. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive. Other music in this episode is from Epidemic Sound.

  • Shannon Houde is the multi-lingual International Coaching Federation (ICF)-certified coach and talent strategist behind Walk of Life Coaching, where she has mentored and trained 1000+ change leaders to maximize their personal brands to advance their impact careers. After working as a financial analyst, eco-tour guide, recruiter, and then ESG consultant for clients like Adobe, BlackRock, and World Wide Fund for Nature (WWF), Shannon has learned all the ins and outs of the green job search. She’s also the author of a step-by-step book called Good Work: How to Build a Career that Makes a Difference in the World.

    Resources from this episode:

    Book a trial coaching session with Shannon Houde of Walk of Life CoachingFollow Shannon’s step-by-step guide, Good Work: How to Build a Career that Makes a Difference in the WorldVisit Walk of Life’s “hot jobs” board listing openings in the impact careersRead Shannon’s six tips to making your LinkedIn Profile stand out

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    Diversity, equity and inclusion in the climate job hunt with Kristy DrutmanYes, you can turn your climate anxiety into meaningful actionLand a Green Job 101 - Five key questions to turbocharge your job hunt

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk is our host. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Tressa Versteeg produced this episode. Mia Lobel is our story editor. Ayo Oti is our researcher. Engineering by Kevin Kline. Editing assistance from executive producer Elaine Appleton Grant. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive. Other music in this episode is from Epidemic Sound.

  • Scott Z. Burns is a screenwriter, director, producer and playwright. His film writing credits include “The Bourne Ultimatum,” “The Informant!," "Contagion,” “Side Effects,” and “The Laundromat.” As a director, his work includes “Pu-239” and “The Report.” He also was a producer for the Academy Award-winning documentary “An Inconvenient Truth” and served as an executive producer of the film’s sequel as well as “Sea of Shadows.” Most recently, he’s the writer, director, executive producer and creator of the Apple TV+ series “Extrapolations,” which features eight interconnected stories exploring how climate change will affect all aspects of our lives.

    Resources from this episode:

    Read the media impact report from USC Norman Lear Center.Learn about Good Energies Stories, a nonprofit consulting firm focused on climate storytelling.Listen to Scott Z. Burns’ interview on the Climate One podcast.Check out EDF’s Green Jobs Hub.

    Related episodes:

    Transfer your skills to a green job with Work on Climate’s Eugene KirpichovHow to green any job with Project Drawdown's Jamie Beck AlexanderThe future of climate-smart ag and the hot politics of your dinner plateLake Street Dive on music, activism, and bravery

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk is our host. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Stephanie Wolf produced this episode. Mia Lobel is our story editor. Ayo Oti is our researcher. Engineering by Matthew Simonson. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Pooja Tilvawala is an Indian-American climate justice advocate, opportunity curator, and youth engagement expert with five years of experience in the global climate movement. Since 2020, she has served as the founder and executive director of Youth Climate Collaborative (YCC), which is creating a more just, inclusive, and intergenerational climate movement that sustains youth and their initiatives for meaningful climate action. She is a current recipient of the Walking Softer Award for young climate leaders, and an Advisor to Rivet, which intends to create the world’s largest micro-grant fund for youth-led action.

    Resources from this episode:

    Learn about the work of Youth Climate Collaborative. Listen to another interview with Pooja about how to make climate justice work accessible.Network with Pooja by following her on LinkedIn.Check out this climate comedy recommendation: Climate Town with Rollie Williams

    Related episodes:

    How to network for a green job with purpose-driven LinkedIn expert Nick@NoonLearn how to build your climate experience with Terra.do founder Anshuman Bapna

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    Credits:

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk is our host. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Ayo Oti produced this episode. Mia Lobel is our story editor. Engineering by Kevin Kline. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Rebecca Weston, LCSW and JD is a metro-New York psychotherapist and co-president of the Climate Psychology Alliance of North America. She supports climate-aware mental health practitioners and professionals on the front lines of climate work. She’s also written multiple pieces and spoken on the mental health impacts of the climate crisis, and how other systems of inequity affect climate mental issues.

    Resources from this episode:

    What is climate psychology?Visit Rebecca Weston’s website.Learn more about the work of Climate Psychology Alliance of North AmericaFind more information on Climate Cafes.Watch Renee Lertzman’s TED Talk.Read more of Renee Lertzman’s work. For those dealing with burnout, Weston recommends reading the work of Rebecca Solnit. Read the Newsweek piece that Weston co-authored on “climate silence.” Check out EDF’s Green Jobs Hub.

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    Yes, you can turn your climate anxiety into meaningful actionHow to green any job with Project Drawdown's Jamie Beck AlexanderHow a psychology major is on the frontlines of decarbonizing a global industry

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk is our host. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Stephanie Wolf produced this episode. Mia Lobel is our story editor. Ayo Oti is our researcher. Engineering by Kevin Kline. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Ciara Imani May is the founder of Rebundle, the first U.S.-made, plant-based hair extensions brand on a mission to provide more comfort and less waste through eco-friendly and non-toxic hair extensions. The idea for Rebundle sparked in 2019 when Ciara suffered from one too many itchy scalps from wearing braids made from plastic synthetic hair. In researching alternatives, Ciara came to understand that banana fibers could provide a sustainable option. That breakthrough led to Rebundle’s first product, braidbetter.

    Resources from this episode:

    Check out the Rebundle website to learn more about the ReGen Hair Fiber™ that May’s company created.Follow Rebundle on social media: Instagram, TikTok and X (formerly Twitter)Learn about Rebundle’s recycling partner Terracycle, a company helping Rebundle customer’s recycle their old plastic-based hair extensions.Read this article for more about Ciara’s venture capital funding journey.Learn about the USDA’s BioPreferred program. Rebundle’s braidBetter is the first hair extensions product to receive the certification.

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    The woman greening the golden archesBuilding a Black community for green jobseekers

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk is our host. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Ayo Oti researched and produced this episode. Mia Lobel is our story editor. Production manager Andrew Parrella edited this episode. Editing assistance on this episode from executive producer Elaine Appleton Grant. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Drew Wilkinson is a climate activist and co-founder of Microsoft’s 10,000-member employee sustainability community, which has pushed the company to protect natural resources and operate with more sustainable practices. Now, as founder of Climate Leadership Collective, he helps organizations on the people side of sustainability: employee engagement, culture and change management, community building, green skilling, and leadership development. His mission is to make sustainability part of everybody’s job.

    Resources from this episode:

    Check out recent reports on sustainability job growth:The Deloitte Global 2023 Gen Z and Millennial SurveyClosing the Sustainability Skills Gap (microsoft.com)The Future of Jobs Report 2023 | World Economic Forum (weforum.org)Check out Drew’s website to learn more about his consulting work with Climate Leadership Collective. Learn about his punk rock, sea pirate, and DIY background.Read Drew’s blog on how to Make Sustainability Part of Everybody's Job. Learn more about Microsoft’s Sustainability Connected Community:Read Drew’s article on How to Build Your Own Employee Sustainability Community.Listen to Powered by the People, a Microsoft podcast that tells the community’s origin story.Watch Climate at Work’s panel about building grassroots sustainability movements within companies, featuring Sustainability Connected at Microsoft and Anthroprocene at Google. Check out how Drew used the Microsoft Hackathon to help clean up the ocean. Listen to the music of Drew’s hardcore punk band, Run with the Hunted, and the song you heard in this episode, Destroy All Calendars.

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    How to green any job with Project Drawdown's Jamie Beck AlexanderHow Heather McTeer Toney is redefining climate action for the next generation of leadersThe fastest electric vehicle fleet makeover in the west

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    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk is our host. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Tressa Versteeg produced this episode. Mia Lobel is our story editor. Ayo Oti is our researcher and Audrey Nelson provided fact checking. Engineering by Kevin Kline. Editing assistance on this episode from executive producer Elaine Appleton Grant. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

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    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Yesh Pavlik Slenk is our host. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. The Degrees production team includes story editor Mia Lobel; producers Tressa Versteeg, Stephanie Wolf, and Ayo Oti; audio engineers Kevin Kline, Matthew Simonson, and Daniel Chavez Crook; production manager Andrew Parrella; podcast manager Tina Bassir, and executive producer Elaine Appleton Grant. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Jamie Beck Alexander is the director of Drawdown Labs, a division of the climate nonprofit Project Drawdown. In 202, Alexander developed and launched Drawdown Labs, which works with the private sector to accelerate their adoption of climate solutions. She’s been heralded for her TEDx Talk about empowering workers to be the driving change for the climate crisis within companies. Prior to Project Drawdown, Alexander worked for Ceres, which also encourages companies to establish ambitious climate goals and reduce emissions.

    Read the transcript of this episode.

    Resources from this episode:

    Check out the Drawdown Labs Job Function Action Guides:Finance Job Function Action GuideGovernment Relations and Public Policy Job Function Action GuideHuman Resources and Operations Job Function Action GuideLegal Job Function Action GuideMarketing Job Function Action GuideProcurement Job Function Action GuideSales and Client-Facing Roles Job Function Action GuideLearn about The Drawdown Roadmap: Using Science to Guide Climate ActionFollow the Amazon Employees for Climate Justice group and read Amazon’s Climate Pledge.If you don’t see your profession in Drawdown Labs’ Job Function Action Guides, try other resources on how to green your job, like the Climate Action Resource Library.Join climate-specific communities:Terra DoWomen in ClimateClimatebaseClimate DraftMCJ CollectiveGreenbiz Sustainability ConferenceWork on ClimateBrowse other climate-related job boards:GreenBiz Sustainability JobsGreen Jobs NetworkClimate PeopleTo find people to follow on LinkedIn, visit LinkedIn’s Top Voices in the Green Economy list.Search the hashtag #OpenDoorClimate on LinkedIn to find climate professionals who are willing to chat with you. This is the movement founded by Daniel Hill, Year of the Climate Job host and director of Environmental Defense Fund’s Innovation Fund.Sign up for the Degrees newsletter.Here are some articles we love:protocol: “The Inflation Reduction Act is testing Big Tech’s climate resolve”Greenbiz: “Solving the sustainability careers and connection crisis”NBC News: “Amazon workers press company on climate change response after Pakistan floods”

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    How to network for a green job with purpose-driven LinkedIn expert Nick@NoonBrowngirl Green’s Kristy Drutman: Taking the mystery out of finding a green jobTransfer your skills to a green job with Work on Climate’s Eugene KirpichovLearn how to build your climate experience with Terra.do founder Anshuman BapnaThe fastest electric vehicle fleet makeover in the westHow to solve the EV problem and a jobs problem at the same timeWhy employees are key for a hopeful future

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Daniel Hill hosts The Year of the Climate Job. Yesh Pavlik Slenk hosts Degrees. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Stephanie Wolf is senior producer; Kevin Kline is our audio editor; Andrew Parrella is our production manager; Elaine Appleton Grant is CEO of Podcast Allies and Tina Bassir is podcast manager. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • The Carbon Copy is a co-production of Post Script Media and Canary Media.

    In a special collaboration with Grist, reporter Emily Pontecorvo discusses where to find all the electricians we need to electrify everything and how we can train enough new entrants to the field to meet our climate goal. Read Emily’s feature article.

    Read a transcript of this episode: The great electrician shortage.

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    How to network for a green job with purpose-driven LinkedIn expert Nick@NoonBrowngirl Green’s Kristy Drutman: Taking the mystery out of finding a green jobTransfer your skills to a green job with Work on Climate’s Eugene KirpichovLearn how to build your climate experience with Terra.do founder Anshuman Bapna

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Daniel Hill hosts The Year of the Climate Job. Yesh Pavlik Slenk hosts Degrees. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Stephanie Wolf is senior producer; Andrew Parrella is our production manager; Elaine Appleton Grant is CEO of Podcast Allies and Tina Bassir is podcast manager. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Anshuman Bapna is CEO and founder of Terra.do, an international platform with educational opportunities designed to help people get jobs working on climate. The aspiration is to get 100 million more people working in the climate economy in the next decade. Bapna is a serial entrepreneur, having co-founded and launched several startups. He’s also worked with Deloitte, Google, and MakeMyTrip. He says he gets his best career and life advice from his children.

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    Check out Terra.do’s different courses.Find other climate learning and training platforms:UN SDG: Learn platformHarvard Business School Online - Sustainable Business StrategyJoin climate-specific communities:Work on ClimateWomen in ClimateClimatebaseClimate DraftMCJ CollectiveMy Climate Journey podcastGreenbiz Sustainability ConferenceBrowse climate-related job boards:GreenBiz Sustainability JobsGreen Jobs BoardGreen Jobs NetworkClimate PeopleTo find people to follow on LinkedIn, visit LinkedIn’s Top Voices in the Green Economy list.Find nonprofits, public service organizations or higher education programs doing interesting climate-related work:Rewiring AmericaProject DrawdownUC Berkeley Opportunity Lab’s Climate and Society InitiativeStanford Doerr School of SustainabilitySearch the hashtag #OpenDoorClimate on LinkedIn to find climate professionals who are willing to chat with you. (This is the movement founded by Year of the Climate Job Host Daniel Hill. Here are some articles we love::GQ: How an online school is working towards a climate-smart futureBloomberg: 100,000 Green Jobs Announced Since US Adopted Climate Law, Study FindsGreebiz: How will the Inflation Reduction Act spur job creation for the climate tech sector?The Hechinger Report: COLUMN: New climate legislation could create 9 million jobs. Who will fill them?

    Related episodes:

    How to network for a green job with purpose-driven LinkedIn expert Nick@NoonBrowngirl Green’s Kristy Drutman: Taking the mystery out of finding a green jobTransfer your skills to a green job with Work on Climate’s Eugene Kirpichov

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Daniel Hill hosts The Year of the Climate Job. Yesh Pavlik Slenk hosts Degrees. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Stephanie Wolf is senior producer; Eric Aaron is our audio editor; Andrew Parrella is our production manager; Elaine Appleton Grant is CEO of Podcast Allies and Tina Bassir is podcast manager. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Eugene Kirpichov co-founded Work on Climate, an online community for people passionate about solving the climate crisis, in 2020. Prior to WoC, Kirpichov spent more than seven years as a software engineer with Google. But learning how severe the climate crisis was, he felt he could no longer stay in his job. The resignation letter he shared on LinkedIn went viral.

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    Join Eugene Kirpichov’s Work on Climate community.Join other climate-specific communities:Terra DoWomen in ClimateClimatebaseClimate DraftMCJ CollectiveGreenbiz Sustainability ConferenceRead Kirpichov’s goodbye-to-Google letter.Check out the Climate Change and AI report that helped Kirpichov understand which of his skills were transferable.Browse other climate-related job boards:GreenBiz Sustainability JobsGreen Jobs NetworkClimate PeopleTo find people to follow on LinkedIn, visit LinkedIn’s Top Voices in the Green Economy list.Search the hashtag #OpenDoorClimate on LinkedIn to find climate professionals who are willing to chat with you. (This is the movement founded by Daniel Hill. Year of the Climate Job host and director of Environmental Defense Fund’s Innovation Fund.)Sign up for the Degrees newsletter.Here are some articles we love::Fast Company: He quit Google to work on climate change. Now, he’s helping others do the same thingUSA Today: Hiring boom: A two-year degree lands a green energy job that pays ‘a pretty penny’‘Recession Resilent’ Climate Start-Ups Shine in Tech Downturn

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    How to network for a green job with purpose-driven LinkedIn expert Nick@NoonBrowngirl Green’s Kristy Drutman: Taking the mystery out of finding a green job

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Daniel Hill hosts The Year of the Climate Job. Yesh Pavlik Slenk hosts Degrees. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Stephanie Wolf is senior producer; Kevin Kline is our audio editor; Andrew Parrella is our production manager; Elaine Appleton Grant is CEO of Podcast Allies and Tina Bassir is podcast manager. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Technologist and entrepreneur Nick Martin founded the social impact company TechChange. He’s taught graduate courses at several colleges, including Columbia University. Martin is also known for his LinkedIn presence. Known as Nick@Noon, he has more than 200,000 followers who come to him for social impact career tips and resources.

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    Follow Nick Martin on LinkedIn.To find people to follow on LinkedIn, visit LinkedIn’s Top Voices in the Green Economy list.Search the hashtag #OpenDoorClimate on LinkedIn to find climate professionals who are willing to chat with you. (This is the movement founded by Year of the Climate Job Host Daniel Hill. Learn more about climate career scholarships from Dream.org.Check out Environmental Defense Fund’s Green Jobs Hub.Read the 2022 LinkedIn Global Green Skills Report.Join the following climate-specific communities and attend their events:Work on ClimateTerra DoWomen in ClimateClimatebaseClimate DraftMCJ CollectiveGreenbiz Sustainability ConferenceBrowse other climate-related job boards:GreenBiz Sustainability JobsGreen Jobs NetworkClimate PeopleSign up for the Degrees newsletter.Here are some articles we love::Bloomberg: 100,000 Green Jobs Announced Since US Adopted Climate Law, Study FindsCNBC Work: How to get a job often comes down to one elite professional asset, and many people still don’t realize it

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    Land a green job 10110 ways to save the planetThe woman greening the golden archesCareer reinvention: From world-touring musician to environmental champion

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Daniel Hill hosts The Year of the Climate Job. Yesh Pavlik Slenk hosts Degrees. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Stephanie Wolf is senior producer; Andrew Parrella is our production manager; Elaine Appleton Grant is CEO of Podcast Allies and Tina Bassir is podcast manager. Eric Aaron edited the audio in this episode. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Kristy Drutman is a speaker, content producer, consultant and environmental advocate. Much of her work is focused on where media, diversity, equity and environmentalism intersect. She founded the storytelling site Browngirl Green and co-founded the Green Jobs Board, where she curates good, paid jobs in the climate space. Drutman has been invited to speak on environmental issues at the White House several times, and E&E News listed her as part of the “next generation of climate and environmental visionaries.”

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    Resources from this episode:

    Browse Drutman’s Green Jobs Board and see what people are talking about on the jobs board’s Instagram page.Check out the Environmental Defense Fund Green Jobs Hub. Read up on the 2022 LinkedIn Global Green Skills Report.Check out and join the following climate-specific communities: Work on ClimateTerra DoWomen in ClimateClimatebaseClimate DraftMCJ CollectiveBrowse other climate-related job boards:GreenBiz Sustainability JobsGreen Jobs NetworkClimate PeopleSign up for the Degrees newsletter or the Climate Tech VC’s newsletter.Read #OpenDoorClimate’s “Day in the Life of a Climate Profile” series.Here are a few articles we’ve been reading about the Inflation Reduction Act’s impact on the green jobs market:Bloomberg: 100,000 Green Jobs Announced Since US Adopted Climate Law, Study FindsGreebiz: How will the Inflation Reduction Act spur job creation for the climate tech sector?The Hechinger Report: COLUMN: New climate legislation could create 9 million jobs. Who will fill them?

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    How Heather McTeer Toney is redefining climate action for the next generation of leaders10 ways to save the planetBuilding a Black community for green jobseekers

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    Who makes Degrees?

    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Daniel Hill hosts The Year of the Climate Job. Yesh Pavlik Slenk hosts Degrees. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Stephanie Wolf is senior producer; Andrew Parrella is our production manager; Matthew Simonson is our audio editor; Elaine Appleton Grant is CEO of Podcast Allies and Tina Bassir is podcast manager. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • 🌎 Job hunting? Visit our comprehensive Green Jobs Hub for job listings, networking resources, skills and certification information and more.

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    Degrees: Real talk about planet-saving careers is presented by Environmental Defense Fund (EDF). Daniel Hill hosts The Year of the Climate Job. Yesh Pavlik Slenk hosts Degrees. Amy Morse is EDF’s producer. Podcast Allies is our production company. Stephanie Wolf is senior producer; Andrew Parrella is our production manager; Elaine Appleton Grant is CEO of Podcast Allies and Tina Bassir is podcast manager. Our music is Shame, Shame, Shame from Yesh’s favorite band, Lake Street Dive.

  • Elected at age 27, Heather McTeer Toney knows what it means to be a public servant. She was the first African-American, first female and the youngest to serve as mayor of Greenville, Mississippi from 2004-2012. In 2014, President Barack Obama appointed her as regional administrator of the EPA’s Southeast Region, at eight states the largest EPA region in the country. Currently, Heather is vice president of community engagement for the Environmental Defense Fund. She has appeared on numerous news outlets and in publications, including The New York Times and the Washington Post. She is the author of the forthcoming book, “Before the Street Lights Come On: Black America’s Urgent Call for Climate Solutions”, in stores Earth Day 2023.

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    Resources

    Heather McTeer Toney, EDFHeather McTeer Toney PBS Brief But Spectacular: Centering Black Leadership in Climate Change SolutionsMoving Past Stereotypes: Climate Justice IS the Social Justice Issue of Our Time, Heather McTeer Toney keynote speech, Bioneers, 2019Black Women Are Leaders in the Climate Movement Environmental Inclusivity: Heather McTeer Toney on Social and Climate Justice, Bioneers. “Our voices are required at this moment. It’s not an option. It’s a requirement.”People of color are more concerned than whites about climate change (survey results): Which racial/ethnic groups care most about climate change?Ten years later, BP oil spill continues to harm wildlife — especially dolphins, National Geographic, April 17, 2020Article by Trish Kenlon, founder of Sustainable Career Pathways: 18 sustainability fellowships for students and working professionals

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    Who makes Degrees?
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  • Helena Bottemiller Evich, founder and editor in chief of Food Fix, which has rapidly become one of the go-to premium newsletters for anyone and everyone with a stake in food policy, from White House Staffers to famous chefs. Previously, she led coverage of food and agriculture issues at POLITICO for nearly a decade, winning numerous awards for her work, including a George Polk Award for a series on climate change and two James Beard Awards for features on nutrition and science. In 2022, she was a James Beard Award finalist for a deep dive on diet-related diseases and Covid-19.

    Before launching POLITICO’s food policy coverage in 2013, Helena was the Washington correspondent for Food Safety News, where she covered deadly foodborne illness outbreaks and the run-up to Congress passing the most significant update to food safety law in a century.

    Born and raised in Washington state, Helena attended Claremont McKenna College, where she studied government. She now lives in Washington, D.C., with her husband, toddler and tabby cat.

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    See Helena accept the prestigious George Polk Award for her year-long series exposing the USDA for suppressing its own research on climate change.
    “The stories examined how the Trump administration failed to promote its own research about the dangers of climate change; devoted a minuscule portion of its budget to climate adaptation; buried a study warning of lost nutrients in rice, the leading source of nutrition for 600 million people; and led farmers to feel frustrated by the lack of government help in tackling climate-related problems.”
    — PoliticoI’m standing here in the middle of climate change: How the USDA is failing farmers, Helena Bottemiller Evich, Politico, 10/15/2019What the Inflation Reduction Act means for food policy, Food Fix, 8/9/22Dr. Ayana Johnson’s TED Talk: How to find joy in climate action

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