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  • Support the Show • Part 1 of Santiago's interview with Dee, a fourth-generation Seventh-day Adventist, about his SDA background, early baptism, education, and what led him out of the church. In our wide-ranging conversation, we discussed racial issues in Adventist schools, the Civil Rights Movement, and more.

    Resources / Topics Mentioned:

    Video - We Are the World
    Topic - Public Enemy
    Film - Malcolm X (1992)
    Topic - Assassination of MLK Jr.
    Topic - Poor People's Campaign
    Topic - The 15 Year Battle for MLK Jr Day
    Video - MLK: "A riot is the language of the unheard"
    Topic - White Americans Celebrated MLK's Death
    Topic - Ronald Reagan's wartime lies

    00:00 Intro
    00:17 Meet Dee: 4th Gen Adventist
    02:49 Early Memories & Fearing Ellen White
    04:01 Questioning Church Teachings
    09:02 A Life-Changing Tragedy
    11:04 Living with Fear & Moving to Huntsville
    19:01 Baptism and Religious Pressure
    22:26 Purity Culture & Mixed Messages
    28:51 Weird "Health Message" Fads
    31:29 Racial Issues in Adventist Schools
    38:11 Civil Rights, Division, MLK
    43:30 Deconstructing Beliefs
    47:02 How Othering Manipulates Us
    53:07 The New Generation
    55:29 Trickle Down Greedonomics
    1:00:42 Dee's Adventist Education
    1:07:16 Goodbye Oakwood, Hello Adulthood
    1:11:26 Outro

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  • Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. In this episode, we cover more of Rosei's deconstruction, finding contentment and a new outlook on life, complementarianism, consent, mental health, becoming a content creator, and more.

    Resources / Topics Mentioned:
    Links - Rosei Quartz's Links
    Podcast - Rosei Quartz's Podcast
    Topic - Complementarianism
    Topic - Attachment Styles
    Topic - Bill Gothard's "Umbrella of Protection"
    Reddit - ex-SDA comments on Gothard's Umbrella
    Topic - The FRIES Model of Consent
    Book - #ChurchToo: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to Find Healing
    Topic - Youth Wilderness / Troubled Teen Industry
    Topic - SWERF Definition
    Topic - BITE Model of Authoritarian Control
    Topic - Adventist GC "Human Sexuality Task Force"
    Podcast - S1B2 - Human Sexuality Task Force
    Topic - Weaponized Incompetence
    Podcast - The Dream (Examining MLMs)

    00:00 Intro
    00:17 Rosei's Deconstruction
    05:16 Contentment and New Worldview
    13:47 Complementarianism Hurts Everyone
    20:36 Purity Culture & Consent
    22:10 Journey into Online SW
    28:10 Work is Work
    32:27 Online SW vs. Traditional Work
    36:33 SWERFs vs. Autonomy
    45:04 Adventist Leadership
    52:52 Advice for Leaving the Church
    55:20 Where to Find Rosei
    57:22 Outro

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  • Support the Show • Santiago interviews Rosei Quartz, a former Seventh-day Adventist pastor's kid, content creator, and Twitch streamer. Rosei shares her Adventist upbringing, the pressures of parasocial relationships, and the high expectations placed upon her as a pastor’s kid. We cover her journey out of Adventism and how studying psychology played a big role.

    Resources / Topics Mentioned:
    Links - Rosei Quartz's Links
    Podcast - Rosei Quartz's Podcast
    Podcast - Armchair Expert - Cults (Rosei starts at 50:08)
    Topic - Complementarianism
    Book - #ChurchToo: How Purity Culture Upholds Abuse and How to Find Healing
    Topic - LARPing
    Topic - Startle Response
    Topic - Cry Nights
    Topic - Hypervigilance & Hyperawareness
    Topic - Terror Management Theory
    Topic - Thought-terminating cliché
    Podcast - H&H S1:E4 - When Did You Learn About...
    Playlist - Debunking Young Earth Creationism

    00:00 Intro
    00:13 Meet Rosei Quartz
    01:17 SDA Family History & Early Memories
    04:31 Sabbath Mornings
    07:33 Pastor's Kid Pressures
    17:48 Spiritual Manipulation & Content Creation
    26:49 Health Message & Ellen White
    30:28 "Spiritual Warfare" & Psychology
    38:28 Terror Management Theory
    41:55 Why Rosei Left Adventism
    43:35 Harmful Beliefs & Pseudoscience
    55:12 Crossing Ethical Boundaries
    57:46 Ethics & Behavior Modification
    1:00:37 High Demand Religion & Mental Health
    1:05:11 Personal Growth Outside the Church
    1:14:14 Outro

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  • Support the Show • Santiago shares some personal news, updates on the future of the show, and listener stories.

    Resources / Topics Mentioned:

    Slate: Why Do We Give Our Pets Death With Dignity but Not Ourselves?
    S1:E2 - Do You Believe in an Afterlife?
    More Listener Stories
    Podcast Resources
    Book Resources

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  • Support the Show • Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for two summers with Youth Rush, to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We discussed the sales tactics used by Youth Rush, the books they sold and beliefs they encountered, misadventures in door-to-door evangelism, and more.

    Resources / Topics Mentioned:

    Andres' Website & Bio
    Youth Rush Article - Spectrum Magazine

    00:00 - Haystacks & Hell Intro
    00:34 - Youth Rush Canvassing Sales Tactics
    06:49 - Books and Beliefs
    20:58 - Misadventures in Door-to-Door Evangelism
    25:39 - From Fast Food to Film School
    32:04 - Embracing Diversity and Finding Acceptance
    37:28 - Exploring Orthodoxy
    46:06 - Closing Thoughts
    48:12 - Haystacks & Hell Outro

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    Santiago interviews Andres Pichinte (They/Them), a Gen Z ex-Adventist who went from fundamentalist Adventism and going door to door for Youth Rush (for two summers), to exploring esotericism and now Orthodox Christianity. We talk about growing up Adventist, being surrounded by conspiracy theories, and moments that made them question their Adventist faith.

    Resources / Topics Mentioned:
    Andres' Website & Bio
    The Hairbrush Song - Silly Songs with Larry
    His Cheeseburger - Love Songs with Mr. Lunt
    Youth Rush Article - Spectrum Magazine

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    3rd and final part of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. After escaping her abusive home, Charli discovered she didn't have proof of her U.S. citizenship, so she had to get a green card and worried about possibly being deported. We also discussed her journey of healing and leaving the faith she grew up in.

    Charli's Links:
    TikTok @charli.hayes
    Instagram @charlihayes_
    YouTube @charlihayes_

    Resources / Topics Mentioned:
    Maskrosbarn ("Dandelion Child")
    Mental Health and Therapist Resources

    Support for Victims of Abuse:
    RAINN - National Sexual Assault Hotline
    Childhelp - National Child Abuse Hotline
    The Hotline - National Domestic Violence Hotline

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    Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced horrific things at home. The police and Child Protective Services investigated, but nothing happened, so she ran away from home at 18. She now has over 500k people on TikTok who have been following her life story.

    Charli's Links:
    TikTok @charli.hayes
    Instagram @charlihayes_
    YouTube @charlihayes_

    Resources / Topics Mentioned:
    Little Duck Diner - Savannah, GA
    Hostel in the Forest - Brunswick, GA
    Hostelworld - Find hostels around the world

    Support for Victims of Abuse:
    RAINN - National Sexual Assault Hotline
    Childhelp - National Child Abuse Hotline
    The Hotline - National Domestic Violence Hotline

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    Santiago interviews Charlotte Hayes (Charli), a Gen-Z ex-Adventist. She was adopted from Russia and brought to the U.S. as a baby by an Adventist couple. Growing up, Charli experienced emotional, physical, and sexual abuse at home. The police and Child Protective Services investigated, but nothing happened, so she ran away from home at 18. She now has over 500k people on TikTok who have been following her life story.

    Charli's Links:
    TikTok @charli.hayes
    Instagram @charlihayes_
    YouTube @charlihayes_

    Resources / Topics Mentioned:
    VeggieTales - Jericho Slushies
    Battle (Genocide) of Jericho - Wikipedia
    IBLP - Wikipeda
    Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets
    Alisa Williams' Thread on SDAs & Shiny Happy People
    Katie Morton - Licensed Therapist, YouTuber
    Religious Trauma-informed Therapists & Other Resources

    Support for Victims of Abuse:
    RAINN - National Sexual Assault Hotline
    Childhelp - National Child Abuse Hotline
    The Hotline - National Domestic Violence Hotline

    Kati Morton Videos:
    Abuse Topic Playlist
    Sexual Abuse: How do we recover & how long does it take?
    What is Consent, Assault & Harassment?
    What's considered sexual abuse?
    Struggling with childhood sexual abuse?
    Healing from Sexual Abuse & Incest

    Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

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    Santiago and Saoirse discuss their very different childhood experiences with Halloween and read some stories from the ex-Adventist subreddit. Abby, Ami, and friends talk around a bonfire (bone fire?) about their experiences with Halloween. That last part of the episode is a little loud, but there's some fun stuff if you're patient.

    Topics Mentioned:
    Scared Straight | Hell House - How Gay Thou Art Podcast
    The Addams Family - Wikipedia
    Wednesday (Netflix Show)
    The Addams Family (1991 Film)
    Addams Family Values (1993 Film)
    Beetlejuice (1988 Film)
    Killer Klowns From Outer Space (1988 Film)

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    Part 2 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss writing wills for SDA church members, Will's deconstruction from Adventism, telling his parents, and navigating his own parental responsibilities after deconstructing at just the right moment.

    Topics Mentioned:
    Will's Law Practice Website
    Will's TikTok (@will.i.jam)
    Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher
    Iyanla Vanzant "The past is present"
    Rachel Held Evans (Author)
    Peter Ennes (Author)
    Non-binary Gender
    Singular They
    Left-handedness

    Other Episodes Mentioned:
    Melissa Duge Spiers Interview (S1E10 - Part 1)
    Melissa Duge Spiers Interview (S1E11 - Part 2)

    Matthew Vollmer Interview (S1E16 - Part 1)
    Matthew Vollmer Interview (S1E17 - Part 2)

    Race, Slavery, and Racism in Christianity and Adventism (S1E19)
    The Amalgamation of Man and Beast!? (S1E20)

    Adventist Estate Stories:
    Bahamian Family Alleges $30 Million Fraud Involving 3ABN
    SDA Church Stealing Estates
    Grandma’s money went to 3ABN

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    Part 1 of 2: Santiago interviews Will James, an ex-Adventist husband, dad, lawyer, and TikToker based in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. We discuss his parents' conversion to Adventism (along with 30 of their friends?!) when he was two years old. Will grew up with a very literal interpretation of the Bible and Ellen White's writings, and eventually deconstructed everything.

    Topics Mentioned:
    Will's TikTok (@will.i.jam)
    Oh No, Ross and Carrie - Amazing Facts Series
    David Steward Amazing Facts Profile
    Will's Blog - Broken Plates and Baptisms
    Inception (Movie)

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    Santiago interviews Morgan Clae, an ex-Adventist director, producer, and singer-songwriter based in Los Angeles. We discuss purity culture, her time at Walla Walla University, being a student missionary, deconstruction, and becoming agnostic. We also explore the meaning behind the lyrics of Wilder Things, Morgan's song on deconstruction and coming out.

    Morgan's Links:
    Morgan Clae Linktree
    YouTube
    Spotify
    TikTok

    Morgan's Music Mentioned:
    Stay (Music Video)
    Wilder Things
    26

    Resources & Topics Mentioned:
    Born Again Again Podcast
    exAdventist Subreddit
    The Greatest Showman
    Jesus and John Wayne
    Conservatives are upset their kids don’t want to spend Christmas with them

    Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes


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    Santiago interviews Erika Miller, an ex-SDA teacher, mom, and survivor of abuse. As a young child, Erika was abused by a deacon's son at her home church. She shares her amazing story of resilience, attending Newbold College in the UK, and eventually leaving the Adventist church.

    Resources Mentioned:
    Erika's email: swimlass [at] gmail.com
    Therapists and Mental Health Resources
    Unbelievable - Netflix Show

    The Netflix show linked above is not about Erika's story, but it's linked here as we briefly discussed Erika’s desire to go into law (timecode 44:32). She was discouraged by her parents, who said the legal profession isn't suitable for a Christian woman. I mentioned the show because it’s based on a true story of a serial r*pist who got away with his crimes in part by committing them in different cities or counties, and the police departments didn’t share any information with each other.

    The show centers on a woman who was the most recent victim and spoke to the police, but the two male detectives who questioned her didn’t believe her and ultimately gaslit her into recanting her testimony. It wasn’t until a female detective began noticing a pattern and believed the victim that they finally were able to put the pieces together and catch the r*pist.

    The show is relevant because it illustrates how discouraging women from entering certain professions has put us at a disadvantage, and why listening to victims is incredibly important.

    Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/S2E1


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    For the final episode of Season 1, Santiago does a deep dive on the "amalgamation" quotes. Abby and Ami talk about bigotry in the Seventh-Day Adventist church and particularly in the southern United States culture of the church. The conversation covers racism, homophobia, dating, trans issues, segregated conferences, and "the amalgamation of man and beast."

    Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

    Sources Mentioned:

    2021 Poll: 94% of Americans Approve of Interracial Marriage

    "Base Crime" Definition from 1858 Dictionary

    Racist book from 1867: The Negro, what is his ethnological status?

    Uriah Smith's Defense of Ellen White's Amalgamation Quotes

    James White promoting Uriah Smith's Book

    Adventist Responses:

    Adventist Today - Was Ellen White an Infallible Theologian?

    Dr. Benjamin Baker - Ellen White on Amalgamation

    Terrie Aamodt (59:00), Benjamin Baker (1:32:30) on Amalgamation

    Ellen White Estate - Amalgamation by Francis D. Nichol

    Tunkhannock SDA Church on Amalgamation

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    Santiago covers a brief history of race, slavery, and racism in the context of Christianity and Adventism. We look at the Bible, Ellen White's writings, and the history of how the Adventist church created a segregated conference system in the United States. Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

    Race, Pseudoscience, and Science

    Adam Hochman - Is ‘race’ modern?

    Gregory Slack - The Medieval Origins of 'Race'

    Historical origins of racial classification

    Limpieza de sangre

    Scientific Racism

    National Academies - Stop using race

    Did Evolutionary Theory Cause Genocide?

    Charles Darwin on Racism, Slavery, and Eugenics


    Racism within Christianity and Adventism

    Christian views on slavery

    Christian abolitionism

    'The Curse of Ham': Slavery and the Old Testament

    German and Austrian churches apologize for Holocaust actions

    Adventism’s White Supremacy

    Why are there Regional Conferences?

    Protest & Progress Speech - Dr. Calvin B. Rock

    A House on Fire Panel Discussion

    ​James Kemuel Humphrey

    Byard, Lucille (1877–1943)


    Reparations

    Reparations for slavery in the United States

    The Truth Behind ’40 Acres and a Mule’

    Forty acres and a mule

    Ellen White on Reparations


    Recommended Reading

    A House on Fire

    Protest & Progress

    Seventh-day Adventists and the Civil Rights Movement

    How to Be an Antiracist

    How to Raise an Antiracist

    How to Be a (Young) Antiracist

    Antiracist Baby


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    Santiago interviews Cherie Marie, a body image coach, BodyBarre instructor, and former 4th generation Adventist who grew up in California, Ohio, and Berrien Springs, Michigan. We discuss food, purity culture, and much more including overcoming challenges with food and body image. Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

    Cherie's Info:

    To claim a 90-minute session with Cherie, send her a Direct Message on Instagram and mention the promo code "Hell"

    Instagram - alchemy1.0

    TikTok - cheriemaried

    Other topics mentioned:

    Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking

    Eve Was Framed - Instagram

    Gabor Maté - Wikipedia

    Sex and Sensibility

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    Part 2 of Santiago's interview with Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.

    Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

    Matthew's Links:

    Book - All of Us Together in the End

    Essay - This I Believed

    Essay - The Man With Two Heads

    Website / Bio

    Books Mentioned:

    The Book: On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are - Alan Watts

    The Denial of Death - Ernest Becker

    Other Topics Mentioned:

    TikTok - Rachel Klinger Cain

    The Road Not Taken - Robert Frost

    The Architecture of Doom

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    Santiago interviews Matthew Vollmer, an ex-Adventist writer and English professor at Virginia Tech who just so happens to be the nephew of Ted Wilson, the current President of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists.

    Full Transcripts, resources and more: hell.bio/notes

    Matthew's Links:

    Book - All of Us Together in the End

    Essay - This I Believed

    Website / Bio

    Books Mentioned:

    The Doctor and the Damned - Albert Haas

    Armageddon - Bart D. Ehrman

    The Bible Tells Me So - Peter Enns

    The Sins of Scripture - John Shelby Spong

    Why Christianity Must Change or Die - John Shelby Spong

    Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu

    Other Topics Mentioned:

    Albert Haas and Mauthausen

    Music from Matthew's friend John Ringhofer


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    Santiago announces updates to the resources linked on the Haystacks & Hell website, a new mutual aid project, and a call-to-action to help fellow listeners of the podcast.

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