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  • In Episode 187, Daniel and Christina chat with Erin Loechner—once a social media influencer with over a million followers—who made the radical choice to step away from the digital spotlight and embrace a low-tech lifestyle. Erin reflects on the impact of social media on her mental health, identity, and parenting, sharing how the constant pressure to stay “connected” was eroding what mattered most. In this conversation, she offers practical tips for reducing tech dependence, from simplifying devices to creating meaningful offline moments with loved ones, all while reminding us that true connection thrives in real life, not on screens.

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About The Following:

    The impact of social media on mental health and personal relationships.

    The decision to opt out of social media for family well-being.

    The evolution of social media from sharing to attention-seeking platforms.

    Experiences and benefits of living without social media.

    The importance of community and real-life connections.

    Practical steps for families to create a healthier relationship with technology.

    The role of parental controls and intentional tech use.

    The dangers of social media algorithms, especially for young users.

    The significance of authentic relationships over digital interactions.

    Encouragement for families to reflect on their technology use and its implications.


    Resources Mentioned In This Episode:

    Pick up a copy of Erin's latest book, The Opt-Out Family: How To Give Your Kids What Technology Can't


    Read Erin's first book, Chasing Slow: Courage To Journey Off The Beaten Path


    Erin's Website


    Listen to our other episodes about raising kids in this tech era: 


    Parenting In Our Digital Age


    Unplugging for Connection: How To Break The Distracted Parenting Cycle

    Netiquette: Teaching Our Kids Online Manners

    Breaking Up With Our Phones


    Meet Erin Loechner:
    Founder of global tech-free movement The Opt-Out Family, Erin Loechner is a former social media influencer who walked away from a million fans to live a low-tech lifestyle—and is now teaching others how to do the same. Her cutting-edge work has been praised in the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the Huffington Post, and the Today Show. When she’s not scrawling on her trusty steno pad, Erin, her husband, and their three kids spend their days chasing alpenglow, reading Kipling, and biking to town for more tortillas.
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  • In Episode 186, Daniel and Christina Im engage in a profound conversation with Chuck De Groat, a licensed therapist and author of "Healing What's Within." The discussion centers on themes of loneliness, healing, and the integration of spiritual and psychological insights. Chuck shares his journey in writing his book and emphasizes the importance of reconnecting with oneself. The episode explores practical tools for self-examination and highlights the significance of understanding and addressing deeper longings for connection and fulfillment.

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About:

    Exploration of themes of loneliness and disconnection.

    Discussion on the healing process and its significance.

    Integration of spiritual and psychological insights.

    The importance of self-awareness and introspection.

    The role of community in the healing journey.

    Examination of internal conflicts and desires.

    Reflection on the biblical concept of "coming home to oneself."

    Practical tools for self-examination based on biblical questions.

    Encouragement to engage in contemplative practices and connect with God.


    Meet Chuck DeGroat:
    Chuck DeGroat is a professor of pastoral care and Christian spirituality at Western Theological Seminary in Holland, Michigan, where he also serves as the founding executive director of the clinical mental health counseling program. He is a licensed therapist, spiritual director, author, retreat leader speaker, and faculty member with the Soul Care Institute. 
    As a therapist, he specializes in navigating issues of abuse and trauma, pastoral (and leadership) health, and doubt and darknights on the faith journey. He trains clergy in handling issues of abuse and trauma, conducts pastor and planter assessments, and facilitates church consultations and investigations of abuse. 
    Before transitioning to training and forming pastors, Chuck served as a pastor in Orlando and San Francisco. He and his wife, Sara, have been married for 30 years and have two adult daughters.

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  • We interview Dr. Charles Fay, president of the Love and Logic Institute, about parenting strategies from his book "Raising Mentally Strong Kids." Dr. Fay emphasizes allowing children to experience and learn from mistakes, fostering resilience, confidence, kindness, and responsibility. He discusses the negative side effects of overprotective parenting and introduces practical techniques for encouraging problem-solving and independence. The episode also explores the role of mental hygiene, highlighting the need to challenge automatic negative thoughts and promote truthful thinking to support children's mental health.

    In This Episode, You Will Hear About The Following: 

    Parenting strategies for building resilience in children and teens.

    The importance of fostering confidence, kindness, and responsibility in youth.

    Current trends in youth mental health and their implications for parenting.

    The significance of allowing children to experience small failures for growth.

    The role of empathy in effective parenting and problem-solving.

    Differentiating between healthy and unhealthy struggles for children.

    The concept of "mental hygiene" and managing negative thoughts.

    Encouraging open discussions about parenting challenges and strategies.



    Resources Mentioned In This Episode:

    Pick up a copy of Dr. Charles Fay's book Raising Mentally Strong Kids


    Listen to our previous episode about Why We Need To Teach Our Kids to Fail


    Listen more about the importance of joy in your children's lives: The 4 Habits of Raising Joy-Filled Kids



    Meet Dr. Charles Fay:
    Dr. Charles is an internationally recognized author, consultant, and public speaker. He is also president of the Love and Logic Institute, which became part of Amen Clinics in 2020. Millions of educators, mental health professionals, and parents worldwide have benefited from Dr. Fay's down-to-earth solutions to the most common and frustrating behaviors displayed by youth of all ages. These methods come directly from years of experience serving severely disturbed youth and their families in psychiatric hospitals, public and private schools, homes, and other settings. For more information, visit loveandlogic.com

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  • Is it possible to recover from an affair? Can you learn to trust your spouse again? Josh and Katie Walters candidly discuss their journey through betrayal and the rebuilding of trust in their marriage. Katie opens up about her emotional affair and the subsequent guilt and self-reflection she faced. Josh shares his initial shock and the struggle to process the betrayal, highlighting the importance of his decision to forgive and stay committed to the marriage. They explore the emotional cost involved in healing, the role of their faith in guiding them towards forgiveness and restoration, and the beauty that awaited them on the other side of the betrayal. It's not just their story; it's an invitation to anyone wrestling with forgiveness to find solace in the shared experience and redemptive power of grace. 

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About:

    What is an emotional affair and its impact on a marriage

    Emotional journey and reevaluating priorities in marriage

    Process of forgiveness and rebuilding trust

    Complexity of forgiveness, trust, and transformative power of love and grace

    Highlighting a different narrative of hope and staying in a relationship despite challenges



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  • Daniel and Christina discuss the intricacies of marriage with Brian and Jen Goins and how marriage is like a living art form that demands creativity, evolves, and requires a blending of different perspectives and experiences. The episode highlights the re-release of "The Art of Marriage" series, which encourages couples to engage in open dialogue about love, intimacy, and the divine representation of God's love in marriage.

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About:

    Marriage as an art and the re-release of "The Art of Marriage" series

    The intention behind the creation of marriage and its purpose as a representation of God's love

    Importance of love, forgiveness, and intimacy in marriage

    Having healthy and transparent conversations about sensitive topics like sex and intimacy

    The "Art of Marriage" program as a platform for couples to grow together

    Stories of transformation and growth in marriages through the "Art of Marriage" program

    Emphasizing the power of humility, learning, and actively working towards building a strong and healthy marriage


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  • Ever caught yourself scrolling through your phone while your child's voice fades into the background? Yup! Us too. Let's face it, the era of smartphones has us all hooked. But did you know that this habit might be doing more harm than good to our kids? Distracted parenting isn't just about not hearing their stories—it's about the message we send about their value to us. In Episode 182, Daniel and Christina breakdown the costs of distracted parenting and discuss how we can respond to our children's bids for attention to foster intimacy and connection.

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About The Following:

    Distracted parenting and its impact on children

    Importance of being present and engaged with children

    Examples of distracted parenting scenarios

    Emotional impact of distracted parenting on children

    Responding to children's bids for attention and connection

    Role of empathy in nurturing intimacy with children

    Practical tips for parents to improve engagement with children

    Creating undistracted time to fully engage with children

    Modeling attentive behavior in interactions with others


    Resources Mentioned In This Episode:

    Episode 36: Netiquette: Teaching Our Kids Online Manners

    Episode 62: Parenting In Our Digital Age


    The Tech-Wise Family: Everyday Steps for Putting Technology in Its Proper Place by Andy Crouch



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  • Daniel and Christina explore the nuances of apologizing in relationships by discussing the 5 Apology Languages by Dr. Gary Chapman. They delve into the emotional depth of expressing regret, the challenge of accepting responsibility without excuses, the significance of making restitution to show sincerity, and the commitment required for planned change to rebuild trust. Through personal anecdotes and practical advice, they underscore the importance of understanding and using these apology languages to foster forgiveness and reconciliation with the ones you love.

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About The Following:

    Importance of apologies in relationships

    What "fake" apologies are and what to watch out for

    The 5 Apology Languages: expressing regret, accepting responsibility, making restitution, planned change, and requesting forgiveness

    How forgiveness and trust are not to be equated

    Ways to discover your apology language and the apology language of others


    Resources Mentioned In This Episode:


    The 5 Apology Languages: The Secret To Healthy Relationships by Dr. Gary Chapman


    Why Won't You Apologize? Healing Big Betrayals and Everyday Hurts by Harriet Lerner

    Listen to our previous episode about The 7 New Love Languages and 4 Steps To Get Your Love Language Heard


    Do you need more help with learning to apologies? Listen to our previous episode: Do You Suck At Apologies? Here Are 4 Steps To Healing Hurts With Your



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  • Daniel and Christina delve into the complexities of resolving conflicts in a marriage, particularly in the presence of children. They discuss the importance of empathy, active listening, and collaboration in handling disagreements, and share personal anecdotes and strategies for effective communication. They also talk about the impact of parental conflict resolution on children, emphasizing the need for transparency and the creation of a safe space for family discussions. The episode offers practical advice for couples to navigate marital conflicts constructively while fostering a positive environment for their kids.

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About The Following:

    Healthy conflict resolution within a marriage

    Impact of conflict on children

    Importance of active listening and empathy

    Personal experiences and challenges in conflict resolution

    Solutions-focused therapy techniques

    Value of validating and empathizing with one's spouse

    Developing empathy as a skill

    Collaborative aspect of conflict resolution

    Impact of healthy conflict resolution on children

    Creating a safe environment for discussing conflicts with children


    Timestamps:
    Is it okay to fight in front of the kids? (00:00:01) Exploring the impact of parental conflict on children and the nuances of healthy conflict resolution within a marriage.
    The generational effect of parental conflict (00:00:57) The impact of parental conflict on children's perceptions of relationships and the importance of modeling healthy conflict resolution.
    The harmful effects of hostile conflicts (00:02:13) The negative impact of frequent hostile conflicts on children and the signs that a relationship needs help.
    Gottman approach to conflict resolution (00:04:47) Understanding the concept of perpetual problems in relationships and the goal of regulating, rather than resolving, conflicts.
    Listening and being heard (00:06:00) The importance of active listening and summarization in conflict resolution, fostering constructive dialogue and mutual understanding.
    Empathy and perspective taking (00:13:33) The role of empathy in conflict resolution, its impact on emotional well-being, and fostering a deeper connection in relationships.
    Empathy and perspective taking (00:18:39) The importance of empathy and perspective-taking in conflict resolution and share practical techniques for validation and understanding.
    Collaborative conflict resolution (00:21:13) The significance of collaboration in conflict resolution, highlighting the need for mutual willingness to find sustainable solutions and the benefits of brainstorming together.
    Transparency and family dynamics (00:25:40) The segment explores the educational value of children witnessing healthy conflict resolution, emphasizing the resilience of relationships and the importance of transparent communication within the family.
    Repairing relationships (00:28:02) The importance of explicit communication and repair in the aftermath of conflicts, emphasizing the impact of parental transparency on children's understanding and emotional well-being.

    Resources Mentioned In This Episode:
    Need to learn how to fight well? Listen to our previous episodes about conflict resolution.

    A Conflict-Free Marriage Is Not The Goal

    How To Fight With Your Spouse Without Ruining Your Marriage

    How To Repair Your Relationship After A Big Fight


    Enneagram and Communication Styles 

    Resolving Conflict with the Enneagram

    Fight Right: How Successful Couples Turn Conflict Into Connection by Drs John and Julie Gottman


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  • Daniel and Christina discuss strategies for deepening love in your relationship. They explore how to address complaints constructively, repair conflicts, and avoid contempt. They also highlight the role of physical touch, expressing gratitude, and the power of forgiveness in strengthening marital bonds. The episode provides practical advice and personal insights for couples looking to enhance their relationship and foster a deeper connection.

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About The Following:

    Addressing complaints without blame in a marriage

    Repairing conflicts and distinguishing between solvable and perpetual conflicts

    Sticking to the issues during arguments and avoiding contemptuous behaviour

    Understanding underlying emotions and addressing unmet needs in relationships

    Extending the time between feeling, thinking, and speaking in a relationship

    The significance of physical touch and the impact of oxytocin on reducing stress hormones

    Growing fondness and admiration in a marriage through gratitude and appreciation

    Seeking to understand before seeking to be understood and the role of forgiveness

    Practicing apologizing and forgiving in a marriage


    Timestamps:
    Share your complaint without pointing fingers (00:07:41) Discussing the difference between sharing complaints and criticizing your spouse, emphasizing the importance of addressing specific issues.
    Repair conflicts with skill (00:11:14) Exploring the concept of solvable and perpetual conflicts in relationships and the significance of addressing and bouncing back from disagreements.
    Stick to talking about the issues at hand (00:12:37) Emphasizing the importance of avoiding name-calling, personal attacks, and contempt in arguments, and the need to understand underlying emotions.
    The impact of contempt on relationships (00:15:07) Exploring the destructive nature of contempt in relationships, its role as a predictor of divorce, and the need to avoid displaying contemptuous behavior.
    Recognizing and addressing signs of contempt (00:16:26) Discussing how contempt can develop over time in relationships and the importance of recognizing and addressing signs of contemptuous behavior.
    Moving toward reconciliation and repairing (00:17:26) Highlighting the significance of acknowledging and apologizing for displaying contemptuous behavior and moving towards reconciliation and repairing the relationship.
    Extending the space between feelings and thoughts (00:17:48) Discussing how to extend the time between feeling anger and reacting, to respond instead.
    Showing love through physical touch (00:19:26) Exploring the benefits of physical touch in relationships and the impact of a six-second kiss.
    Growing fondness and admiration (00:21:18) Encouraging the practice of expressing gratitude and appreciation for one's spouse's positive qualities.
    Seeking first to understand and then to be understood (00:23:04) Emphasizing the importance of active listening and understanding in communication.
    Practicing apologizing and forgiving (00:28:19) Discussing the significance of forgiveness and the process of seeking and granting forgiveness in relationships.
    Conclusion and episode recap (00:31:56) Summarizing the six ways to deepen love in marriage and expressing gratitude to the audience.

    Resources Mentioned In This Episode:
    Learn the difference between perpetual and solvable conflicts and how to handle each of them: 

    A Conflict-Free Marriage Is Not The Goal 

    How To Fight With Your Spouse Without Ruining Your Marriage

    How To Repair Your Relationship After A Big Fight


    Learn about the importance of turning toward your spouse and responding to their "bids"

    What 15 Years Of Marriage Has Taught Us

    The 4 Keys To Long-Term Sexual Satisfaction


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  • Jason VanRuler, a therapist and author, discusses the transformative power of facing one's past. He shares his personal journey from a troubled childhood to professional success, highlighting the importance of self-reflection and seeking help to overcome recurring life challenges. Daniel and Christina explore with Jason the various ways individuals can begin addressing their issues, whether through therapy, journaling, or simply talking to a trusted friend. Jason emphasizes that healing from the past involves changing our relationship with it, reducing its emotional intensity, and no longer allowing it to dictate our present and future.

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About The Following:

    Importance of confronting brokenness and the past

    Impact of childhood experiences on adult behaviour

    Promises individuals make to themselves that may keep them stuck

    Jason's personal journey from a challenging environment to becoming a therapist and author

    Why we need to address and change our relationship with the past

    Paths forward for confronting brokenness, including seeking therapy, journaling, and talking to others

    Importance of community and connection in the healing process

    What it looks like to be healed from our past


    Meet Jason VanRuler:
    Jason began his career in 2011 and has worked with many populations over the years, ranging from persons who are incarcerated to top CEOs, performers and artists, and just about everyone in between. Jason has extensive experience as a clinician, coach, and speaker and operates a multistate private practice. In 2018, Jason joined Bethesda Workshops in Nashville, TN, where he serves as a group leader and facilitator. Jason is known for his ability to relate and connect with his clients and offer hope to those who have felt hopeless. He has an engaged and rapidly growing online audience for his insightful, short videos sharing practical tips for psychological care, self-help, and healthy relationships.
    Jason enjoys spending time with his wife and three children playing games and traveling. In his spare time, Jason enjoys cycling, running, music, fly fishing, and all things personal development related.

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  • Daniel and Christina discuss the importance of discipleship at home. They emphasize the need for parents to set an example in speech, conduct, love, faith, and purity, and discuss how children can sometimes guide and correct their parents. Sharing personal experiences, they explore the significance of aligning actions with words, as children learn more from what we do than what we say. They also discuss the importance of personal growth and helping children grow in these areas, and the role of spiritual disciplines in this process. They conclude by reflecting on the need for genuine faith and a consistent relationship with God.

    In this episode, you'll hear about the following:

    Importance of discipleship at home

    Setting an example for children in speech, conduct, love, faith, and purity

    Grounding children in the truth of God's word

    Parents being open to their children as a source of guidance and correction

    Repairing relationships and apologizing to children

    Aligning actions with words

    Importance of personal growth and helping children grow

    Prioritizing worship and gathering as a church community

    Practicing spiritual disciplines and developing well-worn pathways in the brain


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  • Canadian Certified Counsellor Nadine Crain discusses the impact of purity culture on parenthood. She explains the origins and effects of purity culture, highlighting how it emphasized abstinence and tied a person's worth to their sexual purity. Nadine emphasizes the need to develop a healthier relationship with our bodies. Also, she discusses the importance of communication with our bodies and how to navigate the tension between teaching a biblical ethic around sexuality while avoiding the harmful aspects of purity culture. 

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About The Following:

    Impact of purity culture on parenthood

    Origins and long-term effects of purity culture on individuals

    How to develop a healthier relationship with our bodies

    Importance of recognizing and acknowledging our bodies

    Communication with our bodies and addressing past traumas

    Navigating the tension between biblical ethics and harmful aspects of purity culture in parenting


    Resources Mentioned In This Episode:

    Christian Counsellor's Network

    Nadine's website


    Nadine's Instagram




    Picture/Children’s books:

    “Bodies are Cool” by Tyler Feder

    “It’s My Body!” by Elise Gravel



    Books for Parents Personal Healing and Learning:

    Faithful: A Theology of Sex, by Beth Felker Jones

    The Wisdom of Your Body: Finding Healing, Wholeness, and Connection through Embodied Living, by Hillary L. McBride, PhD

    Unwanted: How Sexual Brokenness Reveals our Way to Healing, by Jay Stringer


    Meet Nadine Crain:
    Nadine is a Canadian Certified Counsellor with a Master's degree in Marriage and Family Therapy. Nadine is a pastor’s wife, and has served in ministry with her husband Brandon for the past 13 years. They live in Edmonton, AB, and have three daughters.
    Nadine’s passion is helping Christians connect their mental, emotional, and spiritual health with how they live and experience their bodies. In her counselling practice Nadine works with couples and individuals who are struggling with anxiety, emotional regulation, recovering from religious trauma, or struggling with sexual intimacy and communication. Nadine also offers Pre-Marital Counselling, and presentations for church groups.
    While completing her Master’s degree, Nadine chose to research “How Purity Culture Has Impacted the Self-Esteem, Sexuality and Spirituality of Evangelical Women.” Her findings from that project have inspired the trajectory of her counselling practice and ministry.

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  • We interview Dr. Bob Paul about the concept of intensive marriage therapy and how it differs from traditional counselling. Bob explains the advantages of intensive therapy, such as addressing core issues and providing a focused environment for couples to work through their challenges. He also discusses the person-centred approach of their program, prioritizing the well-being of individuals while building healthy relationships. Bob addresses the suitability of intensive therapy for couples and emphasizes the importance of investing in relationships.

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About The Following:

    Intensive marriage therapy vs traditional weekly counselling sessions

    Advantages of intensive therapy 

    Importance of individuals being whole and healthy for successful relationships

    Self-care and honouring God to bring the best selves to marriage and family

    Suitability for intensive therapy or traditional counselling

    The definition of a great marriage

    Resources, opportunities, and aftercare support provided by the program

    Recognizing when a couple is drifting apart and investing in the relationship

    Seeking professional help for couples hanging by a thread


    Resources Mentioned In This Episode:

    Hope Restored Marriage Intensive in Canada   https://hoperestored.focusonthefamily.ca/


    Hope Restored Marriage Intensive in the USA   https://hoperestored.focusonthefamily.com/


    The DNA of Relationships for Couples by Greg Smalley and Robert Paul - https://amzn.to/3M9TKng


    9 Lies That Will Destroy Your Marriage: And the Truths That Will Save It and Set It Free - Robert Paul and Greg Smalley https://amzn.to/4041D3c


    Restoring Hope - Robert Paul, Robert Burbee, Christine Arnzen https://amzn.to/3S2knhM


    Reconnected: Moving from Roommates to Soulmates in Marriage - Greg and Erin Smalley https://amzn.to/3QtDIHz



    Meet Dr. Bob Paul:
    Dr. Robert Paul is the vice president of the Focus on the Family Marriage Institute. He is also one of the founders of its highly acclaimed Hope Restored marriage intensive programs. He is a licensed professional counselor, an international speaker, and co-author of a number of books including The DNA of Relationships and 9 Lies That Will Destroy Your Marriage.

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  • Dannah Gresh shares her personal story of navigating her husband's addiction to pornography in their marriage. She discusses the impact it had on their relationship and the importance of seeking help and support. Dannah emphasizes the role of faith and the Holy Spirit in the healing process, highlighting the need for God's power in overcoming addiction. She also talks about the importance of forgiveness, trust, and the journey she and her husband took together to heal from the hurt and pain of infidelity.

    In This Episode, You'll Hear About:


    The Power of Honesty and Accountability: Dannah's emphasizes the importance of open discussions about struggles and establishing accountability. It's crucial to prevent addiction from becoming a source of comfort.


    The Role of Faith: Dannah's shares a powerful moment of divine intervention that led them to seek help. She underscores the importance of the Holy Spirit and the Word of God in the healing process, believing that without them, traditional therapy has limited efficacy.


    The Journey of Healing: Dannah's story highlights the need for individual healing. She shares a powerful analogy about taking responsibility for her own healing, rather than relying solely on her husband.


    The Impact on the Church: Dannah discusses the devastating impact of pornography on the church and the need for open dialogue. She believes the church should be a sanctuary where people can find freedom from addiction.


    The Process of Rebuilding Trust: Dannah acknowledges that forgiveness and trust are interconnected but do not necessarily happen simultaneously. She uses the analogy of "putting cookies in the cookie jar" to describe the process of rebuilding trust through consistent actions and behaviors.


    Other Episodes That May Interest You:

    How to Talk to Your Kids About Porn with Dr. Simon Sheh

    Will Porn Ruin My Marriage? with Dr. Simon Sheh

    Porn-Proofing Your Child with Rosie Mackinney

    My Spouse is Addicted to Porn with Rosie Mackinney


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  • In Episode 173, we interview Christa Hardin about the Enneagram and how this tool can deepen the love you have for one another. We discuss the importance of individual work and creating a safe environment in relationships. Christa explains the concept of seasons in marriage, comparing them to the changing seasons in nature. She emphasizes the need for couples to engage in deeper relational work during challenging times. We also discuss Christa's book, "The Enneagram in Marriage," which explores the different pairings of Enneagram types and provides tips for navigating the shadows and afterglow stages of each pairing. She shares how the Enneagram can help couples identify their core fears and work on them together. 

    In This Episode, You Will Hear About:

    Importance of doing individual work in relationships

    Creating a safe environment in relationships

    The concept of seasons in marriage

    Comparison of seasons in marriage to changing seasons in nature

    The stages and seasons of marriage as described in "The Enneagram in Marriage"

    Engaging in deeper immersion work during difficult seasons in marriage

    Using Enneagram types to understand and meet emotional needs in marriage

    Benefits of using the Enneagram in couples' work


    Meet Christa Hardin:
    Christa Hardin, MA is a relationship expert, author, as well as host of the popular Enneagram & Marriage Podcast. Christa has been working with and researching marriage for two decades, providing hope for couples who are struggling to find their light, love, and mission together in any season of relationship. 
    Her most recent title, "The Enneagram in Marriage: Your Guide to Thriving Together in Your Unique Pairing," is due out with Baker Books October 3. You can catch up with her at @enneagramandmarriage on Instagram or find her many resources over at www.enneagramandmarriage.com

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  • Bonnie Gray knows a thing or two about being stressed. During the first year of the pandemic, Bonnie's once full, black hair began falling out. Overwhelmed by the exhaustion of disrupted routines and pressure to meet expectations at work, parenting, ministry and a bottomless checklist of To Do's, Bonnie focused on meeting everyone else's needs at the expense of neglecting her well-being. With her usual coping mechanisms stripped away, she was drained by worries, stress, and anxiety. On Episode 172, Bonnie describes how using soul care and breath prayers can create healthy habits with God to help restore peace and joy in your life.

    You'll Hear About:

    The concept of soul care and the four areas of wellness

    The importance of social wellness and building meaningful relationships

    The impact of negative emotions on our bodies and the importance of naming and discussing them

    Tips for managing burnout and improving sleep quality

    The practice of breath prayer and its impact on managing stress


    Resources Mentioned In This Episode:

    Breathe: 21 Days to Stress Less and Transform Chaos to Calm by Bonnie Gray

    Sweet Like Jasmine: Finding Identity in a Culture of Loneliness by Bonnie Gray

    https://thebonniegray.com/soulcarequiz/

    Breathe: The Stress Less Podcast

    Breath as Prayer: Calm Your Anxiety, Focus Your Mind, and Renew Your Soul


    Meet Bonnie Gray:
    Bonnie Gray is a Soul Care mentor and the author of Breathe: 21 Days to Stress Less and Transform Chaos to Calm, Whispers of Rest, Finding Spiritual Whitespace and Sweet Like Jasmine, an ECPA 2022 Christian Book Award Finalist. Heaving healed from PTSD, Bonnie is passionate about helping thousands of listeners detox stress and flourish in emotional wellness with God’s love through soul care, Bible Study and prayer. 
    Bonnie is a trusted voice writing for Proverbs 31, Christianity Today and RelevantMagazine. She is also the host of Breathe: The Stress Less Podcast. Take Bonnie’s Soul Care Quiz to learn which area of wellness you’re missing at SoulCareQuiz.com. She loves hiking and eating waffles with her husband and two teenage boys in Silicon Valley.

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  • Anyone feeling tired, stressed, and overwhelmed? Are you looking for a tool to simplify your life and bring back the calm, peace, fun, and love in your home? Us too! In this episode, you will discover how brain science can increase the connection with your spouse and your children. We interview author and speaker Cherilyn Orr on the stoplight approach. You will discover the link between brain science and the Bible, and how you can use this knowledge to cultivate a connected and thriving "green home."

    In this episode, you'll hear about the following:

    Explanation of the stoplight approach (red, yellow, green brain states)

    Connection between the stoplight approach and marriage and parenting

    Comparison of the stoplight approach to traditional parenting techniques like timeouts

    Description of a "green home" and its pillars (safety, mutual respect, responsibility)

    Importance of skill-building and empathy in teaching responsibility

    Application of the stoplight approach to teenagers and the decision-making process


    Meet Cherilyn Orr:
    Cherilyn Orr is an educational consultant, trainer, coach, and resource developer. She has been an educator from pre-school to university level for 35 years. Cherilyn was a teaching professor at Vanguard College in Canada for 14 years and has worked with families and educators in Canada, Uganda, Greece, and England to help build safe schools, safe homes, safe communities, and resilient children. The Stoplight Approach she developed synthesizes the latest research in brain science and her years of experience as a teacher (early childhood, primary, special needs), as a mom to 7 children through birth and adoption, and as a foster mom. Her practical, simple, hands-on approach to understanding children's emotional health and relational needs has helped hundreds of parents, caregivers, and teachers build strong, healthy relationships with their children and their students.

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  • In this episode, you will learn about the benefits of couples therapy and discover practical steps to inspire your spouse to attend therapy. You will also learn how to approach your spouse who may be resistant to attending therapy, and how you can present therapy as an opportunity rather than an obligation. Overall, this episode emphasizes the importance of communication, understanding, and patience in working through relationship issues.

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  • What is an affair, how do they start, and how can you affair proof your marriage? In Episode 169, we interview Braden and Kristen Hafner on common reasons marriages are susceptible to affairs, the role of trust in affair-proofing your marriage, how to identify potential vulnerabilities in your marriage, and how to rebuild trust and recover from infidelity if it has already occurred in your marriage.

    Meet Braden and Kristen Hafner:
    Since their parents are friends and they grew up in the same church, Braden and Kristen joke that their marriage was arranged. But the truth is Kristen found Braden to have too much hockey hair for her liking. So Braden cut off his luscious locks and the rest is history. Kristen, a former high school science teacher, and Braden an ordained pastor, have been married for 15 years and live in Edmonton. Together they are the Regional Directors of Alberta for FamilyLife Canada. They run Starting Marriage Strong, FamilyLife's pre-marriage course, and Braden co-hosts Pure Victory Podcast helping individuals get free from porn. 

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  • Divorce is a complex and emotional experience and not a "fuzzy feeling" topic. No one wants to think about the possibility of their marriage ending in separation or divorce. However, understanding the potential factors that may contribute to a marital breakdown can help you work to strengthen your relationship and avoid potential pitfalls. In this episode, you will discover the 5 divorce-predicting factors you must watch out for.

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