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Dan Nathan welcomes Jeff Richards, Managing Partner at Notable Capital, to discuss the current state and trends in both private and public markets, especially regarding generative AI. They explore the evolving valuations of private AI companies, how big names like NVIDIA and Google are influencing market trends, and the dominance of the 'Mag 7' tech stocks. The conversation covers the recent Apple event and its potential integration of AI, why software stocks have been soft, and the ongoing challenges in the IPO market. Jeff also shares insights on shifting capital allocations, regulatory dynamics, and the future of AI-driven transformations across various sectors. The discussion ends with a deep dive into the role of private equity firms and the significant influence of private credit in today's higher interest rate environment.
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Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa explore Amazon's strategic investment in Anthropic, the potential of Apple's upcoming AI features, and the importance of cloud service credits in AI investments. The regulatory challenges and future of TikTok in the US market are also scrutinized.
After the break, Sam Lessin from Slow Ventures shares his insights on the impact of generative AI on venture capital investments, emphasizing the shift towards building sustainable businesses through organic growth and strategic mergers. The episode concludes by reflecting on the broader impact of AI and social media, highlighting the importance of authenticity in the tech space and the long-term opportunities for American entrepreneurs.
Further Reading
Barron's Give Facebook the thumbs down (Barron's)
More or Less Podcast (Apple)
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Dan Nathan and Gene Munster, founder and partner of Deepwater Asset Management delve into the latest developments in the tech market, focusing on NVIDIA's impending earnings report and the competitive landscape of AI. They discuss expectations for NVIDIA's revenue growth, the implications of supply-demand dynamics, and the ongoing arms race among tech giants like Google, Amazon, and Microsoft in the AI sector. The conversation also covers Apple's upcoming September 9th event, where new product announcements could significantly impact consumer interest, and examines Tesla's current challenges amid a shifting electric vehicle market.
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Dan Nathan and Dan Niles, the founder of Niles Investment Management, dive into a comprehensive discussion on the current macroeconomic landscape, highlighting the implications of Federal Reserve policies and market expectations. They explore the potential for a soft landing in the U.S. economy, emphasizing the critical role of unemployment and inflation metrics. The conversation extends to the tech sector's 'Magnificent Seven,' focusing on recent earnings trends, AI capital expenditures, and the varying performances of tech giants such as NVIDIA, Microsoft, Apple, and Amazon. They also examine the cyclical nature of tech upgrades, particularly in relation to Apple's latest innovations, and the long-term impact of AI advancements on market dynamics.
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Dan Nathan is joined by Joe Marchese, General & Build Partner at Human Ventures, for an in-depth discussion on the intersection of human attention and generative AI. They explore Joe's recent article, 'Human Attention is All You Need,' which critiques the reliance on algorithms over trust in building brands. They also discuss the role of AI in the stock market, focusing on companies like NVIDIA, Meta, and Amazon. The conversation delves into the implications of AI on advertising, commerce, and brand building, and reflects on the broader economic impacts. Additionally, they talk about the challenges and opportunities for startups in the AI space, the future of media and advertising platforms, and the potential for brand erosion due to over-reliance on performance marketing. The episode concludes with insights on the future of generative AI, market valuation, and the importance of building consumer trust.
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Dan Nathan is joined by Trevor Marshall, CTO at Current to discuss recent trends in technology and finance. The episode covers the intricacies of generative AI, including market dynamics, Nvidia's large customer concentration, and the impact of rising rates in Japan on tech stocks and crypto. Trevor also shares insights on using machine learning in FinTech, particularly for customer service and fraud prevention, and the evolution of AI applications in consumer technology with references to Apple and Google’s advancements. Additionally, the discussion touches on the challenges faced by SaaS companies and potential shifts towards enterprise applications of AI. The episode also explores the current state and future of FinTech, emphasizing innovations like earned wage access and the effects of high rate environments on consumer credit.
Articles On Our Radar
As Regulators Close In, Nvidia Scrambles for a Response (NYT)
A Reality Check on AI With Chevron’s CIO (The Information)
Klarna Weighs Secondary Share Sale Ahead of IPO (The Information)
The AI summer (Ben Evans)
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Dan Nathan and Guy Adami explore the recent broad-based selloff in mega cap tech stocks, particularly focusing on Microsoft, Meta, Amazon, and Apple. They analyze the reactions to Microsoft's earnings report and its implications for the semiconductor sector, they discuss the overall health and future prospects of these tech giants, and delve into the performance of key companies like NVIDIA and AMD. The duo also looks ahead to upcoming earnings reports from other major tech players. Throughout, they highlight the importance of understanding market expectations, the economic environment, and the role of artificial intelligence in shaping tech trends.
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Dan Nathan is joined by Gene Munster, Managing Partner at Deepwater Asset Management, to discuss key tech stocks ahead of their earnings reports. Key focus areas include the AI hype cycle and recent NASDAQ sell-off dynamics. They analyze market sentiments, expected pullbacks, and specific stock movements, particularly in the semiconductor space. Google and its AI advances, Tesla and its expected vehicle launches, Microsoft's alignment with OpenAI, Meta's AI integrations, and Apple's upcoming AI features in iPhones. They also touch upon the private sector as it relates to the batch of AI-first companies due to come online in the next couple of years.
Further Reading
A Reality Check on AI With Chevron’s CIO (The Information)
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Dan Nathan and Deirdre Bosa, host of CNBC's Tech Check, delve into the AI craze in both public and private markets, analyzing Google's potential $23 billion acquisition of Israeli AI firm Wiz. They discuss the AI industry's rapid growth, the cautious market outlook from influential players like Goldman Sachs and Sequoia Capital, and expectations for Q2 tech earnings. The conversation also touches on the regulatory landscape and its impact on significant deals and the new race for tech companies to develop small language models.
Chef and restaurateur Ryan Hardy of Delicious Hospitality Group joins after the break. Ryan delves into his culinary origin story, starting from his Kentucky roots and his professional growth in San Francisco during the 90s, to his eventual success in New York City with notable establishments like Charlie Bird and Pasquale Jones. Hardy shares his experience in curating airline menus for JetBlue, his business philosophy, and the challenges and opportunities of managing hospitality in an evolving technological landscape. The conversation also touches on Hardy's venture into hotel management, the impact of inflation, and the importance of mentorship in the hospitality industry.
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Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss recent market trends, focusing on the NASDAQ's highs and the outperformance of semiconductor stocks, particularly NVIDIA. They also delve into enterprise software performance, with companies like Salesforce and Adobe dipping in the market. The conversation shifts to AI developments, highlighting Elon Musk’s moves with xAI and the competitive landscape involving OpenAI, Alphabet, and Anthropic. The guys touch on Apple's market cap surge post-WWDC and debates surrounding its valuation. Furthermore, they examine Tesla's stock performance and its AI-driven initiatives, despite recent struggles in the auto sector. Lastly, the duo analyze Meta and Alphabet's promising valuations and revenue growth potentials amidst the broader tech landscape.
Further Reading
Musk’s xAI and Oracle End Talks on a Server Deal (The Information)
Elon’s Reply on X
Roger McNamee on the AI bubble
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Dan Nathan is joined by Paul Rabil to discuss his new book The Way Of The Champion and his journey as co-founder of the PLL. Dan and Paul reflect on their past interactions, including Rabil's early appearances on CNBC, and delve into how he and his brother have revolutionized the sport through innovative business models, media strategies, and commitment to inclusivity. The conversation touches on Rabil's athletic success, the challenges he faced, and his new book, 'The Way of the Champion.' They also highlight the significance of lacrosse's return to the Olympics in 2028 and its impact on the sport's future.
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CNBC TechCheck’s Deirdre Bosa joins Dan Nathan on Okay, Computer. European regulators are cracking down on American Big Tech companies with the Digital Markets Act. What's the impact on these firms and will it actually hurt the stock price (2:00)? Is the iPhone the AI device of the future (9:00)? Databricks has the edge on Snowflake, is there any rush to go public (18:00)?
Articles Mentioned
Apple’s AI killer is... the iPhone (TechCheck)
Businesses Want Slower AI Models—And That Might Hurt Nvidia (The Information)
Databricks Has an Edge on Snowflake—but It May Not Be as Big as Investors Think (The Information)
Apple, Meta Have Discussed an AI Partnership (WSJ)
Databricks Has an Edge on Snowflake—but It May Not Be as Big as Investors Think (The Information)
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Dan Nathan and Guy Adami discuss the current state of the public and private markets, focusing on impressive gains in AI-related stocks like Apple, Nvidia, and Microsoft. They delve into the significant market caps of these companies, the potential dangers of their rapid growth, and the likelihood of margin compression due to increased competition. They also touch on specific instances of insider trading and sell-offs in companies like Dell, along with the economic implications of unemployment rates on enterprise spending. Additionally, they analyze the future of FinTech and generative AI, expressing skepticism about the ongoing enthusiasm and pointing out the risks of a potential slowdown.
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Dan Nathan and Dan Niles of Niles Investment Management discuss key financial and tech topics. They explore expectations for the upcoming Apple Worldwide Developers Conference and its potential impact on Apple's stock. The conversation covers Google, Microsoft, and their advancements in AI, along with Nvidia's future prospects amid expected spending digestion. They touch on Tesla's market challenges and job cuts in the tech industry. Additionally, they consider the implications of elections and geopolitical events on the economy, projecting potential market shifts and stressing the importance of data dependency and adapting to changing scenarios.
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0:00 - Intro
4:00 - Dan's Macro Outlook
14:00 - Apple's AI Plan
28:30 - Enterprise Software
39:00 - Is Tesla Screwed?
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Dan Nathan and Guy Adami are joined by Deirdre Bosa to break down and dissect the top headlines in the tech sector this week. The crew dives into recent tech trends, dissects Nvidia's influence in AI, and analyzes post-earnings stock movements of Dell. They explore potential PC upgrade cycles driven by AI and Nvidia's latest AI platform introduced at Computex. Elon Musk's "strategic" use of Nvidia AI chips and Apple's prospective partnership with OpenAI ahead of WWDC are also discussed.
After the break, Dan is joined by Rick Heitzmann of FirstMark Capital and Ezra co-Founder Emi Gal as our “Funders x Founders” series returns. The guys are highlighting the company's mission to revolutionize early cancer detection through AI-driven MRI scans, focusing on goals to expand accessibility and improve early detection rates over the next decade.
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Pump The Brakes On An Upgrade Cycle (2:00)
Computex (7:30)
Musk Chip Moving (12:00)
Deebo Previews Wwdc (14:30)
Starting Ezra (32:00)
Digital Health X Firstmark (34:30)
Pricing (43:00)
Pushbacks (50:00)
The Future For Ezra (55:00)
Biohacking (59:30)
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Dan Nathan and Guy Adami are joined by Deirdre Bosa, host of CNBC's Tech Check, for an engaging discussion on the latest trends in tech and finance. The episode kicks off with a market overview, highlighting NASDAQ's new highs and the S&P's performance, while also touching on the impact of interest rates on tech valuations. Deirdre shares insights on the excitement surrounding AI in Silicon Valley and the reluctance of startups to go public despite market highs.
The conversation then shifts to the "Magnificent Seven" tech stocks, with a particular focus on NVIDIA's staggering market cap growth and its role as a proxy for AI investments. The trio delves into Amazon's AI strategy and its profitability push under Andy Jassy, as well as the resurgence of old tech companies like Dell in the AI hardware space. Speculation arises about Apple's potential AI hardware announcements at WWDC and the challenges generative AI startups face in monetizing their investments in NVIDIA chips. The discussion also covers the different AI models available to consumers and the potential for commoditization in the AI space. Guy raises questions about the relevance of monetary policy and interest rates on the tech market, with Deirdre providing insights from her perspective. The episode also touches on PwC's partnership with OpenAI and its implications for the enterprise Gen AI market.
Articles We’re Reading
Dell Should Keep Shining in Nvidia’s Halo (WSJ)
Nvidia’s Cloud Spending Soars, as It Looks Beyond Chips (The Information)
Hedge funds have never been more long the Magnificent 7 stocks, exceeding last summer’s peak exposure (CNBC)
Google’s AI search setback (Platformer)
China Creates $47.5 Billion Chip Fund to Back Nation’s Firms (Bloomberg)
Apple Set to Unveil AI Strategy at June 10 Developers Conference (Bloomberg)
PwC Set to Become OpenAI’s Largest ChatGPT Enterprise Customer (WSJ)
The Great AI Challenge: We Test Five Top Bots on Useful, Everyday Skills (WSJ)
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Dan Nathan is joined by Gene Munster, Managing Partner at Deepwater Asset Management.This week all eyes look to Nvidia as it reports on Wednesday (3:15) and the conundrum Apple has when it comes to third party AI (13:30).
After the break, Deirdre Bosa joins Dan Nathan for an update on Ilya Sutskever and Jan Leike’s OpenAI departures (19:00), Deirdre’s report from Google I/O (23:45), will Apple pick the Gen AI winner when it comes to Google vs OpenAI (28:30) and drama at Amazon (32:30).
Links Mentioned
Checkout MRKT Matrix (Apple Podcasts | Spotify)
Dan Niles on Nvidia (X)
OpenAI’s GPT-4o Demo (YouTube)
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Dan is joined by NEA Partner Ann Bordetsky on this week’s Okay, Computer. OpenAI unveils Chat-GPT4o as speculation around a deal with Apple swirls (3:00), did Apple go too far with it’s latest iPad ad (14:30), Google I/O continues to embed AI everywhere it can (22:00), SoundHound AI and Perplexity Partner (24:00), thoughts on AI powered wearables (27:30).
After the break, we bring you a conversation Dan had with Gokul Rajaram and Michael Gilroy at RBC Capital’s Technology Private Company Conference (35:00).
Advertising Memory Lane
Apple’s ‘1984’ Commercial
LG KC910 Renoir Advertisement
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On this episode of “Okay, Computer.” Dan Nathan is joined by his “On The Tape” co-host Guy Adami to interview Brent Montgomery, CEO of Wheelhouse, and Mauricio Umansky, Founder & CEO of The Agency and star of the Netflix series “Buying Beverly Hills.” They discuss Brent’s history of creating reality TV shows (3:00), monetizing “Real Housewives of Beverly Hills” and what makes a great show (7:00), Wheelhouse (15:00), casting for reality TV (17:00), being yourself on TV (22:00), the media landscape (27:00), and the real estate market (30:00).
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On this episode of “Okay, Computer.” Dan is joined by Guy Adami to discuss the latest headlines in big tech. They hit: AMD earnings (4:00), semi stock aftershocks (9:30), CDW Corp/Amazon (15:30), Pinterest (19:30), and Apple earnings preview (23:00).
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