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On Sunday evening in Israel, after 471 days in captivity, three hostages â Romi Gonen, Emily Damari, and Doron Steinbrecher â were released from Gaza and returned home to Israel, as a ceasefire in Gaza went into effect.
There has been speculation as to why this deal was agreed upon now, and about whether January 19th effectively marked the end of the Gaza war. And more than anything, there is palpable anxiety about the fate of the remaining hostages.
To take in this moment and unpack these questions about what comes next, we are joined by Yossi Klein Halevi and Wendy Singer.
Yossi Klein Halevi is a senior fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem. Yossi has written a number of books, including his latest, "Letters to My Palestinian Neighbor," which was a New York Times bestseller. He has written for the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Times of Israel. He is co-host of "For Heaven's Sake" podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/for-heavens-sake/id1522222281
Yossi Klein Halevi's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001IXOA04
Wendy Singer was the professional founder of Start-Up Nation Central (SNC), where she served as Executive Director for nine years. Wendy currently serves as a strategic advisor to select Israeli start-ups and NGOs, including the National Library of Israel. Before joining Israelâs tech scene, she spent sixteen years as Head of AIPACâs Israel office. Wendy is a board member of the Shalom Hartman Institute; and a Trustee of the Russell Berrie Foundation.
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After fifteen months of war, and months of on-again, off-again negotiations, Israel and Hamas have reached a hostage deal, which is set to take effect this upcoming Sunday.
What are the key points of the deal? What should we expect - or brace for - as hostages return home to Israel? And - will this deal mean the end of the war?
To take in this historic development, and to help us understand all the above questions, we welcome back Nadav Eyal to the podcast.
Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israelâs leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.
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As we wait in anticipation of a hostage deal, we welcome President Trumpâs incoming National Security Adviser, Rep. Mike Waltz, to the podcast, to discuss the possible hostage deal, and his thoughts on the U.S.-Israel relationship.
Congressman Mike Waltz is a Colonel (Ret.) in the National Guard, and the first Green Beret to be elected to Congress. He worked on counter-terrorism in the Bush White House and was a policy advisor at the Pentagon, serving under Secretaries Rumsfeld and Gates, and a Congressman from Florida. As President Trump is sworn in as president - this upcoming Monday, January 20th, inauguration day - so will Mike Waltz, as the presidentâs National Security Advisor.
Mike graduated from the Virginia Military Institute with Honors and served 27 years in the U.S. Army and National Guard. After being commissioned as an Army lieutenant, Mike graduated Ranger School and was selected for the elite Green Berets, serving worldwide as a Special Forces officer with multiple combat tours in Afghanistan, the Middle East and Africa. For his actions in combat, Mike was awarded four Bronze Stars, including two for Valor.
Mike is the author of the books, âWarrior Diplomat: A Green Beretâs Battles from Washington to Afghanistanâ: https://a.co/d/18NEaB0 , and âHard Truths: Think and Lead Like a Green Beretâ: https://a.co/d/c0lnM9B
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The collapse of Assadâs regime in Syria has created a new geopolitical reality, in which Turkey has emerged as a dominant regional power, both militarily and diplomatically. For Israel, this new reality entails certain risks, but also opportunities for cooperation?
What is Turkeyâs next move - and what are Erdoganâs ambitions? And how is Israel preparing for this new order?
To help us understand, our guests are Dr. Hay Eytan Cohen Yanarocak and Call me Back regular Nadav Eyal.
Dr. Hay Eytan Cohen Yanarocak, who moved to Israel from Turkey, is a researcher at the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies at Tel Aviv University, and an expert on contemporary Turkish politics and society. Yanarocak is the editor of Turkeyscope, and a member of the Middle East Network Analysis Desk. He is a frequent guest on Israeli media, where he regularly appears to discuss contemporary Turkish issues.
Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israelâs leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.
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Yesterday in Washington D.C., former U.S. President Jimmy Carterâs funeral service was held at the National Cathedral.
The former presidentâs post-presidential legacy has had a lasting impact on todayâs Middle East. President Carter was known for brokering the Egypt-Israel peace treaty between Anwar Sadat and Menachem Begin, which has lasted over four decades. However, he was also the first national leader of his stature to openly embrace Hamas, to accuse Israel of âapartheidâ, and to legitimize Hamasâs slaughtering of Jews through suicide bombings and other forms of terrorism, during and following the Second Intifada.
How did President Carter go from an engaged diplomat working for peace between Israel and Egypt to championing Hamas and its narrative of Israeli âapartheidâ?
To discuss the paradox of President Carter when it comes to Israel, and his impact on current day events in the Middle East, our guest is Ken Stein.
Dr. Kenneth W. Stein is Emeritus Emory Professor of Middle Eastern History and Israel studies where he taught from 1977-2024. Early in the 1980s, he led the Middle East Program of the Carter Center, which included multiple trips to the region with the Carters, writing a book with him, and providing monthly analyses to the former president. In 1998, Ken established the first Israel Studies Center in North America and founded the Center for Israel Education in 2008.
Pertinent to this interview, are his 1999 publication, Heroic Diplomacy: Sadat, Kissinger, Carter, Begin and the Quest for Arab-0Israeli Peace and a personal collection of the hundreds of hours of conversations he had with Carter over a twenty year span. He is also the author with Ambassador Samuel Lewis, âMaking Peace Among Arabs and Israelis: Lessons from Fifty Years of Negotiating Experienceâ, https://www.amazon.com/Making-peace-among-Arabs-Israelis/dp/B002X78MGW [amazon.com]
Book discussed in this episode: https://tinyurl.com/4h7pmwzf
Recent article by Ken Stein: https://m.jpost.com/international/article-835320
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A few days ago, we all learned of new details and viewed footage from one of Israel's most high-risk and complex commando operations. The operation was a covert mission conducted by the IDF on September 8, 2024, targeting an underground missile production facility near Masyaf, Syria. The facility, associated with Syria's Scientific Studies and Research Center, was reportedly on the verge of producing precision-guided missiles with ranges of up to 300 kilometers, intended to be supplied to Hezbollah for use against Israel.
To unpack what exactly happened in this operation to neutralize this Iranian/Syrian facility â and the implications for Israelâs broader war with Iran â we are joined by Nadav Eyal.
Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israelâs leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.
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The string of Israeli successes against Hezbollah â culminating in the killing of Hassan Nasrallah â last September was partly the work of Israeli military and intelligence agencies infiltrating Hezbollahâs networks, planting booby-trapped communication devices, and tracking the leadersâ movements to dismantle the group's military capabilities. This campaign crippled Hezbollah by also destroying thousands of missiles and disrupting its leadership, delivering a blow to Iranâs regional strategy.
An investigative report recently published by the New York Times delves into how deeply Israeli intelligence had penetrated Hezbollah ranks. Our guest today is one of the reportâs authors: Ronen Bergman.
Ronen Bergman is a staff writer for The New York Times Magazine and Senior Correspondent for Military and Intelligence Affairs for Yedioth Ahronoth, an Israeli daily. Ronen has won a Pulitzer Prize for his reporting on the Israel-Hamas war and the pre-war intelligence failures.
The New York Timesâ investigative report, co-authored by Ronen: âBehind the Dismantling of Hezbollah: Decades of Israeli Intelligenceâ - https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/29/world/middleeast/israel-hezbollah-nasrallah-assassination-intelligence.html
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Last Thursday, The New York Times published a long investigative piece titled âIsrael Loosened Its Rules to Bomb Hamas Fighters, Killing Many More Civiliansâ. The article tries to identify an unprecedented shift in the IDFâs military strategy and rules of engagement during its response to Hamasâs October 7 invasion, and reports on the impact on Palestinian civilians, including a substantial increase in risk to Palestinian civilians.
To discuss the ethics of Israel fighting a just war justly, to help us unpack and respond to the key charges in the Times investigation, and to briefly reflect on the (post-presidential) legacy of President Jimmy Carter, we welcome back to the podcast, Yossi Klein Halevi, who is a senior fellow at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem. Yossi has written a number of books, including his latest, "Letters to My Palestinian Neighbor," which was a New York Times bestseller. He has written for the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Times of Israel. He is co-host of "For Heaven's Sake" podcast.
Yossi Klein Halevi's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001IXOA04
Articles discussed in this episode:
âIsrael Loosened Its Rules to Bomb Hamas Fighters, Killing Many More Civiliansâ https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/26/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-gaza-bombing.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&tgrp=sty&pvid=1FCD1780-A3CA-40EB-BBFF-99870A87D46E
âTeens forced to perform sexual acts on each other: Report to UN details Hamas tortureâ https://www.timesofisrael.com/teens-forced-to-perform-sexual-acts-on-each-other-report-to-un-details-hamas-torture/
âJimmy Carter, friend of dictators and champion of terroristsâ
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3181150/jimmy-carter-friend-dictators-and-champion-terrorists/
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On thousands of street corners in Israel today, there are banners that read: âbring the hostages back from the darkness.â Itâs excruciating to think that this is the second Hanukkah since October 7th with hostages still in Gaza.
For todayâs episode, we will be replaying an episode from a conversation I had with Haviv Rettig Gur during the 4th day of the pause in fighting during the last (and, to date, only) hostage deal, while hostages were being returned to Israel, back in November 2023. As Haviv put it in this conversation, it had been the first time since October 7 that he could âbreatheâ. Itâs a feeling that we can pray will be alive again soon.
This replay episode is one way to reflect on where we were a year ago, and where we are now. Today, Hamas is only more desperate and Israelâs geopolitical and military position in the Middle East has never been stronger. There is a lot of analysis in this conversation with Haviv that is relevant to the hostage negotiations occurring right now.
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Over the past week, we have seen headline after headline, indicating that Israel and Hamas appear to be closer than ever to a ceasefire and hostage deal.
According to reports, the agreement would take place in phases, and would include a halt in fighting, an exchange of Israeli hostages for Palestinian prisoners, and a surge in aid to Gaza. The final phase would include the release of any remaining hostages, an end to the war and talks on reconstruction.
How legitimate are these reports - is this for real? What political conditions, both in Israel and among key players in these negotiations, could allow for such a deal to be finalized?
To help us understand, and to briefly discuss the recent Houthi attacks, Nadav Eyal returns to the podcast.
Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israelâs leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.
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Was 1929 a harbinger of October 7th, 2023?
August 23rd, 1929, nearly 100 years ago, marks the day of what is referred to in history as the 1929 Arab Riots: a wave of pogroms waged against the Jews living in British Mandatory Palestine. These pogroms began in Jerusalem and quickly spread to other cities and towns, including Hebron, Safed, Jaffa, and Haifa. The riots had largely subsided by August 29th, after 113 Jews were murdered.
Just a few months ago, we at Call me Back released a special series of episodes wherein we spoke with thought leaders about the lasting impact of October 7th on Israelis, on Jews, and on the geopolitics of the Middle East and beyond. (Watch the special series here on our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiYCxMRIBxFoxg8e8Efe0Rz5DZv7VXQeQ)
Today, we examine the 1929 Arab Riots taking a broad view at how they shaped the following 100 years.
Our guest is Yardena Schwartz, author of the recently published book: âGhosts of a Holy War: The 1929 Massacre in Palestine That Ignited the Arab-Israeli Conflictâ - a meticulously researched work that examines the 1929 Hebron massacre, where nearly 70 Jewish residents were killed by their Arab neighbors and friends, and that explores its impact on the Arab-Israeli conflict.
Yardena Schwartz is an award-winning journalist, an Emmy-nominated producer, and author of âGhosts of a Holy War: The 1929 Massacre in Palestine That Ignited the Arab-Israeli Conflict.â Her reporting from four continents has been published in dozens of publications, including the New York Times, New York Review of Books, Wall Street Journal, The Economist, Time, National Geographic, Rolling Stone, and Foreign Policy. She has also worked at NBC News, and she reported from Israel for 10 years.
Yardenaâs newly released book, âGhosts of a Holy War: The 1929 Massacre in Palestine That Ignited the Arab-Israeli conflictâ: https://www.amazon.com/Ghosts-Holy-War-Palestine-Arab-Israeli/dp/145494921X
Pre-order the audiobook here: https://tinyurl.com/hwphyrp4
Video on the seven American hostages held in Gaza: http://pic.x.com/pkUKmtYrQW
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Many would consider the term âdeath factoryâ to be associated with another era, one that is long in the past.
But reports have emerged from inside Sednaya prison, bringing to light the horrific death camp and torture complex that was operated by the Assad regime until the regimeâs collapse, just one week ago. It has been reported that 96,000 people have disappeared into Syriaâs vast network of secret prisons, including thousands of women and children. The overwhelming majority were tortured to death.
The Center for Peace Communications (CPC), an NGO that works through media, schools and spiritual centers to resolve identity-based conflicts in the Middle East and North Africa, gained unprecedented access to Sednaya. They have captured exclusive footage from inside its underground dungeons, and recorded testimonies of those lucky enough to survive what many have called a human slaughterhouse. This footage was released by and in partnership with The Free Press.
To discuss what we know about Sednaya prison and Syriaâs path moving forward, our guests are Joseph Braude and Ahed Al Hendi.
Joseph Braude is the founder and president of the Center for Peace Communications. He is the author of four books on North Africa and the Middle East, and is a frequent contributor to English and Arabic newspapers and magazines. He has served as a consulting advisor to non-profit organizations, the U.S. government, and the private sector in the realms of Arab civil society engagement, strategic communications, and counterterrorism.
Ahed Al Hendi is a Syrian affairs analyst. He is a former political prisoner in Syria, and was arrested for establishing a secular anti-regime student organization.
Exclusive footage and survivor testimony from inside the Sednaya prison, courtesy of the CPC and The Free Press:
https://www.thefp.com/p/watch-assads-human-slaughterhouse-sednaya-prison
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Over the past few months, and especially in recent days, we have seen Iranâs decades-old proxy system and strategy collapsing.
What are Iranâs options?
To help us understand how Iran is dealing with this crisis, our guest is Raz Zimmt, one of Israelâs top experts on Iran.
Raz Zimmt is a senior researcher at the Institute for National Security Studies (INSS) and a research fellow at the Center for Iranian Studies at Tel Aviv University. He is the author of the book "Iran From Within: State and Society in the Islamic Republic" published (in Hebrew) in 2022.
Recent published pieces by Raz Zimmt discussed in this episode:
https://www.inss.org.il/publication/syria-rebels/
https://www.inss.org.il/publication/iran-changes/
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TODAYâS EPISODE:
As we witness Iranâs proxy system unravelling, there may be an opportunity for a new hostage deal and temporary ceasefire in Gaza.
Over the past few months, Israel has seen a number of successes, from the deaths of key Hamas and Hezbollah figures, to the destruction of Iranâs air defenses, a ceasefire agreement with Hezbollah, and finally the fall of the Assad regime, which has collapsed Iranâs proxy strategy.
With Hamas in its weakest position yet, will they try to negotiate a hostage deal?
Are there common threads between this new development, the fall of Assad, the ceasefire in Lebanon, and the incoming US administration? To discuss, Nadav Eyal returns to the podcast.
Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israelâs leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.
To visit our website where you can access transcripts for each episode, sign up for updates, and get in touch with us: https://arkmedia.org/
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HOUSEKEEPING NOTE:
Please note that as of our Thursday episode this week, we will be updating Call Me Backâs cover art. This will not be a dramatic change, but as to not miss out on any new episodes due to this change, please keep an eye out.
TODAYâS EPISODE:
A lot has unfolded in the Middle East over the past 48 hours, with the fall of the Assad regime. Nadav Eyal returns to the podcast today for an emergency episode to discuss the end of Assadâs rule in Syria, and the implications for Israel.
Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israelâs leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.
To visit our website where you can access transcripts for each episode, sign up for updates, and get in touch with us: https://arkmedia.org/
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The Jewish Food Society is a nonprofit whose mission is to preserve and celebrate Jewish culinary heritage in order to deepen connections to Jewish life. As part of their annual fundraising drive, the Jewish Food Society is holding an auction to support their work. To place a bid on any of the items up for auction (including a lunch with Dan Senor), visit: https://givebutter.com/c/JFSFallAuction/auction
To learn more about the work of the Jewish Food Society, visit: https://www.jewishfoodsociety.org
TODAYâS EPISODE:
Over the past week, we have been monitoring developments in Syria, where there has been a significant escalation in its on-again, off-again, and now on-again civil war. Rebel forces, led by Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham, launched a surprise offensive, swiftly capturing key areas in northwestern Syria, including 13 villages and the strategic towns of Urm Al-Sughra and Anjara. Two days later, the rebels had breached Aleppo, Syria's second-largest city, marking their most substantial advance in years.
In response, Syrian government forces, supported by Russian airstrikes and Iran-backed militias, initiated counterattacks to halt the insurgents' progress. The intensified conflict has resulted in significant casualties and displacement.
What does this tell us about major power shifts taking place in the region? Is it part of larger tectonic shifts taking place globally? And what does this mean for Israel?
To help us understand, our guest is Yonatan Adiri.
Yonatan Adiri is a leading Israeli digital healthcare entrepreneur, and was formerly the Chief Technology Advisor and a senior diplomatic advisor to the late Israeli president, Shimon Peres. He is the founder of Healthy.io, a digital healthcare startup, which he has been building for the last decade, and is now returning to public service.
Earlier in his career, Yonatan worked as an officer in the IDF Strategic Command - including when President Obama issued his âred lineâ in the summer of 2012 against the regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria.
To learn more about Yonatanâs startup, Healthy.io: https://healthy.io/
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HOUSEKEEPING NOTE:
The Jewish Food Society is a nonprofit whose mission is to preserve and celebrate Jewish culinary heritage in order to deepen connections to Jewish life. As part of their annual fundraising drive, the Jewish Food Society is holding an auction to support their work. To place a bid on any of the items up for auction (including a lunch with Dan Senor), visit: https://givebutter.com/c/JFSFallAuction/auction
To learn more about the work of the Jewish Food Society, visit: https://www.jewishfoodsociety.org
TODAYâS EPISODE:
Is Israel winning? This is a question we kept running into in our conversations in Israel with Israelis last week, especially as Israel reached a ceasefire agreement with Hezbollah.
To help us assess, Haviv Rettig Gur returns to the podcast.
Haviv Rettig Gur is the political analyst at The Times of Israel. He was a long time reporter for the Times of Israel. Haviv was also a combat medic in the IDF where he served in the reserves.
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On October 8th, 2023, Hezbollah joined the war against Israel. Now, nearly fifteen months later, a ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon may be imminent.
As of this evening in Israel, the Israeli security cabinet has officially approved a ceasefire deal with Lebanon. Under the proposal, Israeli forces would withdraw from Lebanon within 60 days, while Hezbollah forces would relocate farther north, effectively establishing a buffer zone. The Lebanese Army would be stationed in southern Lebanon, to ensure that Hezbollah remains north of the Litani River.
To analyze the key terms of the agreement, and help us unpack its military, political, and social implications, our guest is David Horovitz.
David Horovitz is the founding editor of The Times of Israel. He was previously the editor-in-chief of The Jerusalem Post, and editor and publisher of The Jerusalem Report.
David on X: https://x.com/davidhorovitz
The Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/
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This past Thursday, the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued arrest warrants for Israelâs prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, and Israelâs former defense minister, Yoav Gallant. The warrants were issued on charges of attempting to orchestrate starvation as a method of warfare, and crimes against humanity, of âmurder and persecutionâ, in the ICC's terms. A warrant was also issued for Hamas leader Mohammed Deif, who was killed in an airstrike in Gaza in July.
To help us understand the ICC; its role, jurisdiction and credibility; and the wide range of implications of these arrest warrants, our guest is Natasha Hausdorff.
Natasha is a British barrister and expert on international law, foreign affairs, and national security policy. She is the Charitable Trust Legal Director of UK Lawyers For Israel (UKLFI). Natasha regularly briefs government leaders and international organizations, and has spoken at parliaments across Europe and at the United Nations. She is a regular commentator on issues of international law, both generally and specifically as they apply to Israel.
UK Lawyers For Israel on X: https://x.com/uklfi
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On an almost daily basis, Hezbollah fires hundreds of missiles and rockets into Israelâs North. And yet there seems to be progress being made in negotiations towards a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah.
If we are approaching a deal, what does it look like? How will it be enforced? What are the political forces shaping the deal - in Jerusalem, in Tehran, and in Washington D.C., as the U.S. transitions to a new administration?
And, crucially, how many of the some 60,000 Israelis who were evacuated from the north over a year ago will be able to return to their homes?
To help us understand whatâs going on here, we are once again joined by Call Me Back regular Nadav Eyal.
Nadav Eyal is a columnist for Yediiot. He is one of Israelâs leading journalists. Eyal has been covering Middle-Eastern and international politics for the last two decades for Israeli radio, print and television news.
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