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Reviewing two V12, manual-transmission masterpieces — the Carmudgeons drove a Pagani Zonda Nero and a Ferrari F50, thanks to DK Engineering.
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DK Engineering slid into Jason's DMs with an offer to drive an F50, a car he hadn't driven. Derek is already on record praising the F50 — but neither had driven a Zonda.
They drove the cars, but didn't talk about it with one another until now. So here's the unfiltered truth about these two cars. In reality, they couldn't be more different.
Disappointing. Derek called the Pagani disappointing — the worst thing you could ever hear from your parents.
Especially after Jason had just ridden in the Gordon Murray GMA T.50. Perhaps this Zonda, which had been federalized for U.S. emissions, was quieter than most, but it was an acoustic nonevent: it sounded like a Toyota Camry V6. Which isn't an insult (that's the best sounding V6 in production today) — but it was out of bounds with their expectations.
Where the Zonda surprised, however, was that it's a nice GT. But one perhaps that's not what the boys expected.
On the other hand, the Ferrari F50 was a complete experience. Its V12 sounds nothing like any of the other 3 Ferrari V12s (Colombo, Lampredi, or F116/F140.) It's not a particularly beautiful sound — more a yell than a scream — but it's fully enveloping and wonderful.
The rest of the experience matches up, with linear controls, beautiful steering, and a chassis that feels natural and wonderful. With one of the best clutch/shifter/gas calibrations ever, despite the V12 having almost no flywheel weight.
Also, we include a video of Jason shifting the F50 about 2.2 million times in a minute.
All this and more on this episode of the Carmudgeon Show, which is part of the Hagerty Podcast Network.
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We drive the Sacrilege Motors 911 "Blackbird" — a fully electric-converted 964-chassis Porsche 911, and answer the question: can an EV be fun?
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The name of the company says it all: it is sacrilege to rip out a flat-six from the back of a 911 and replace it with batteries and a motor. But calling it out as sacrilege takes the wind out of that argument, and so Derek (a 964 owner and 911-weenie) and Jason each spent some time with this $850,000 (ish) Porsche to answer the question on whether it makes sense.
The answer might surprise you. It surprised both of the boys, who hadn't discussed their opinions until we hit record in the studio.
Derek was, of course, violent at the idea of a Restomod 911. Called it an abomination, at least conceptually.
Especially because it's a 964, the least numerous of the air-cooled variants — and the best-driving according to Derek. This is the same basic car that companies like Singer also modify, because you can backdate the styling — which isn't possible on a 993.
Jason, meanwhile, loved the memory structure of the Tesla Roadster blowing his mind — the other electric convertible sports car with great steering.
But did the boys like it? Love it? Hate it? Want to burn it at the stake?
Only one way to find out!
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Car Week Update, including: the Vintage Ferrari market nosedives at Pebble Beach. Jason sells his Lotus Elise.
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Neither of the Carmudgeons went to Sunday's Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance, but both boys were at Car Week for the rest of the week.
And then left to shoot an episode of "Jason Cammisa on the ICONS" and "Ultimate Drag Race Replay." Which was even hotter than it was in the studio, where it was over 100ºF recording the Lexus LFA episode.
Sreten from M539 destroyed Jason's house, warehouse, and life, but resurrected an E60 M5 (that OTS & Co will be selling!)
They discuss some Behind-the-Scenes on what it's like to try to close a road — Jason means it when he says "professional idiot on a closed course." Hint: it doesn't always work.
Derek's company, OTS & Company, sold Jason's 2009 Lotus Elise SC, which was a pleasant surprise for Jason, who's never sold through an agent before — and who is generally terrible at selling cars. Jason is now a convert — and wants OTS&Co to sell everything!
OTS & Co also won an award at the Quail with the Ferrari 365 "Croisette" shooting break at the Quail!
That coach built Ferrari might be the Ultimate Car Week Car! But it could be M539's Ring Taxi homage E60 M5 manual!
But the real surprise at Car Week was how poorly the Blue Chip Ferraris did at auction. There were some other cars that were soft (including two Mercedes 190E 2.5-16 Evo II that sold below Derek's expectations) but the multiple-million-dollar 1950s and 1960s Ferrari market was the big shock.
At the same time, a Ferrari F50 hit a new record at $5.5 million with fees — so there's probably not some major bubble bursting. Maybe it's just a generational shift?
Lots of philosophical discussion ensues. You should listen.
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Jason rides in the left seat of a T.50 and declares it the best sounding engine he's ever heard — dethroning the Lexus LFA. With which he and Derek have experience.
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First of all, Jason calculates his cars' brake fluid age and is mostly okay with it, but also slightly horrified at how old the brake fluid is in several of his cars — one of which is 13 years old. Whoops.
Secondly, GMA allowed Jason a ride in the leftmost (passenger) seat of Gordon Murray's T.50, with Dario Franchitti in the center seat. There's video — and audio. And it's enough to have moved Jason to dethrone the LFA, which he had just pronounced the best sounding engine of all time.
The LFA's V-10 sounds amazing — far better in the car than the Porsche Carrera GT, the other best-sounding V-10 of all time (with honorable mention given to the BMW S85 — and every other V10 short of the Viper's.)
The boys also speak about the LFA Revelations Episode — and the history of the Lexus LFA.
And of cars that ride poorly, like the LFA does. Like the Mercedes AMG GT.
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In this episode, Jason and Derek interview Sreten, a friend and YouTuber who stars in his channel M539 Restorations. Sreten bought a salvaged, rare 6-speed manual-transmission E60 BMW M5 — and resurrected it to attend Monterey Car Week.
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M539 Restorations specializes in resurrecting abandoned and neglected BMWs from around the world. Based in Frankfurt, Germany, Serbian-born Sreten creates entertaining videos where he approaches huge repairs without ever skimping on anything.
This time, on his honeymoon, Sreten bought a salvaged E60 M5 that was located in Fresno, California — and Jason had it shipped to his warehouse. Sreten sent boxes of parts, and showed up a week before Car Week and started the process of getting the E60 running again.
If you've now seen Sreten's posts, you'll know he performed a miracle (or got incredibly lucky with a really nice E60) and the car runs again. But that all happened after we recorded this episode.
Get to know the real Sreten. And why he loves the S85 V-10 and the E60 5-series in which it's installed.
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Jason just solved a nagging problem on his car that he paid to have fixed 26 years ago. Turns out, the mechanic charged him for a repair he didn't make.
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Jason just solved a nagging problem on his car that he paid to have fixed 26 years ago. Turns out, the mechanic charged him for a repair he didn't make.
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It's well known that Jason Cammisa's Volkswagen Scirocco 16V is his favorite car. What's not so well-known is that he hit a curb while driving it back in the late 1990s, and bent a control arm.
After saving for over a year, he finally had the money to replace the arm, and commissioned a local repair shop to perform the work. The Scirocco came back from the alignment shop with bad news: Installing the new control arm didn't put there wheel back where it belonged. The Scirocco's frame was bent.
After living with the guilt of having damaged his favorite toy for more than a quarter-century, Jason finally got up the gumption (and money) to have the car's frame straightened.
The frame shop had some interesting news: there was nothing wrong with the car — the control arm was merely bent.
Turns out the shop that charged Young Jason to replace the arm... didn't. And last week, Jason finally replaced it himself, solving a decades-long alignment issue.
This made Jason think about his first three bad experiences as a young man with a VW shop (who tried to charge him near as much in diagnostics than he'd paid for the whole car for a simple bad ground wire) a VW dealer who disconnected his headlights and tried to extort him out of hundreds... and the aforementioned shop — all of whom are responsible for encouraging Jason to do all the work on his cars himself.
Derek has a similar story about a local mechanic to tried to charge him $4500 for a simple ignition coil.
Fun times.
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E31 Syndrome: The explanation of why the E31 8-series is widely regarded as a beautiful failure. This is the full history of the BMW 850i, 850Ci, 850CSi, and 840Ci.
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The BMW 850i had the first post-war German V12. It made 300 hp and was installed in a pillarless, Ferrari-esque coupe almost universally praised for its beauty.
After its debut at the 1989 IAA Frankfurt Motor Show, its first 3 years of production were sold out. But many of those orders were cancelled once the press got a hold of the 850i.
Was it a bad car? In no way. The problem was that its Ferrari looks were married to an uninspired driving experience. The E31 had been conceived by BMW's R&D department (not its marketing department) as a rolling showpiece for its capabilities. And so BMW's priorities were perhaps not in line with market expectations.
In other words: E31 Syndrome. A car that looks one way but drives differently.
The discrepancy was solved when BMW's Motorsport Division made an M8 out of the 850i... but the marketing issue remained because BMW didn't badge it an M8. It was called 850CSi, which wasn't enough of a differentiator. And was made worse because the 850i was renamed 850Ci for no explicable reason.
The 850CSi was a success — it landed to rave reviews, and sold out almost immediately. But its lack of M Badging has cost it enthusiast recognition. Even though it's a full M car with a WBS VIN prefix and the same treatment that the E36 got becoming an M3 out of a 325i.
Learn all about this car on this episode of the Carmudgeon Show — a part of the Hagerty Podcast Network.
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Single-brand car fans don't know what they're missing. Mark Twain once wrote that “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts." The sentiment holds true for cars, too.
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In this episode, the Carmudgeons proceed to rip into one of their friends — light-heartedly. It all started when GG brought his R129 Mercedes 500SL to a shoot involving Jason's E31 850 CSI, and the two started a mock-argument about which car was better.
Anthony Esposito, our favorite cinematographer, said GG's Mercedes-fanboyism reminded him of the Twain quote. In fact, GG's automotive tastes are actually quite well-rounded, but the experience served as the perfect impetus for a conversation about car fans who only experience one brand, or one marque, or one era, or one type of car.
Turns out that nearly every car Jason and Derek have experienced has created fascination and interest in something they didn't previously know enough about to be interested.
Travel — i.e. experiencing new things — often creates unforeseeable interest in people and places you'd never have realized you were interested in.
So, umm, Never Stop Driving... new-to-you cars!
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The enthusiast car market has cooled — which likely benefits you.
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This episode is the Tales of a Used Car Salesman, Derek Tam-Scott Edition! Derek spends his professional (and personal) life selling enthusiast and collectible cars, and he's noticed some major changes in the market.
The bottom hasn't fallen out, he says, but the market has become more rational — which means transaction prices seem to make sense. Even if that transaction price is $117,600 for a Laguna Seca Blue E46 M3.
Because Derek has a rational explanation for the record-breaking six-figure E46 M3 he sold last month.
All this insight and more, with a dose of comedy.
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Do we love fast cars? Or is the experience more important than the speed?
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Get some behind-the-scenes of Jason's Ultimate Drag Race Replay episode racing the two most powerful American cars of all time: the 1234-hp Lucid Air Sapphire and the 1025-hp Dodge Challenger SRT Demon 170.
Jason's episode raced the cars both on regular asphalt and then on a VHT-prepped race surface at the Famoso Drag Strip.
Are the Carmudgeons impressed? We'll find out — in a discussion about whether the faster engine option is the better choice.
Is it speed we love? Or are we looking for experience? In that latter case, electric sports cars like the Rimac Nevera might be in trouble. And it might explain why Bugatti-Rimac's latest car uses a combustion engine.
This, and more, on this episode of the Carmudgeon Show.
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Oh, truck it, let's say the word! Nobody likes the word "hybrid" but adding electric assist to combustion engines really can pave a way forward, especially for long-haul trucking.
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This week, Derek and Jason have an experience at Sonoma Raceway with Range Energy, a company focusing on hybridizing long-haul trucking. It's an ingenious solution to the problem of reducing emissions and fuel consumption, without needing to throw away existing diesel tractors.
And while they were there, they take Jason's e-Golf on the race track. Because, stupid.
But the idea of electricity helping combustion engines is what propelled Porsche to install a hybrid system on the 992.2 911 GTS. Learn how that system works in our discussion — including a chart of engine response of the last 3.0-liter twin-turbo six that debuted 991.2 Carrera versus naturally aspirated engines.
Also, Derek drives a Lucid Sapphire around Sonoma Raceway.
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It's not just Bugatti — we're seeing a shift away from pedestrian turbocharged engines and toward hybrids with an amazing engine as the centerpiece.
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There's a bunch of amazing stuff coming — but sadly nothing for enthusiasts who don't have unlimited funds.
Lamborghini has two new powertrains: a hybrid V-12 for the Revuelto and a 10,000-rpm V-8 for the Huracan replacement. Aston is developing a new V-12. The GMA T.50 and T.30 and Aston Valkyrie use a Cosworth V-12; the Bugatti Tourbillon uses a 9500-rpm Cosworth V-16. The Porsche 992.2 GTS uses an amazing hybrid turbocharged 3.6-liter flat-six.
What's happening in the car market? First, there's a discussion of who buys new cars? How old are car buyers? And how old is the average car on the road?
And why Hybrids all of a sudden?
What's happening is that manufacturers are realizing that a high-revving, vocal combustion engine is what customers want. And a plug-in hybrid system allows this to happen while passing emissions legislation.
All this and more in a very, very curmudgeonly episode of the Carmudgeon Show.
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Let's have some fun coming up with a list of things that other drivers do that piss you off! Make sure to comment below!
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In this episode, Jason prompts Derek to come up with a list of 5 Signs You Might Be a Bad Driver.
Derek came up with one. Jason came up with a Biblical List of Driving Crimes, including:
1. If you're not angry, you're probably the problem.
2. If people are mad at you, you might be a bad driver.
3. If people are mad at you, and you don't know why, you're DEFINITELY a bad driver.
4. If you don't know the rules, you're a bad driver.
5. If you don't pull over to let people pass on a California road, you're a bad driver.
6. If you don't (always) use turn signals, you're a bad driver.
7. If your passengers can feel your lane changes, you're a bad driver.
8. If you don't use vehicular body language, you're a bad driver.
9. If your passengers' heads are bobbing around from your control inputs, you are a bad driver.
10. If you have worn out a clutch, you're probably a bad driver. (There are exceptions.)
11. If you hold a phone while driving, you're a bad driver.
12. If you don't rev-match, you're probably not a good driver.
13. If you don't double-clutch into 1st... you know the drill.
14. If you don't warm up your car, guess what? Bad driver.
15. If you don't hold the steering wheel at 9:00 or 3:00 (or anywhere not 180º apart) you're definitely a bad driver.
16. If you drink and drive, Jason has no respect for you and hopes you get arrested before you hurt someone else. If you hurt yourself, good.
17. You don't know why the ESP or Traction Control light is flashing, you are a bad driver.
18. If you haven't read your owner's manual, you might be a bad driver.
19. If you don't understand the Zipper Merge, you're not just a bad driver, you're a c-word.
20. If you break the law for the convenience of others, you're a bad driver.
21. If you don't care that you're inconveniencing someone else, you're a bad driver.
22. If you speed up when being passed, you're guilty of attempted murder.
And finally,
23. If you are the host of the Carmudgeon Show, you're definitely a bad driver. :)
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There's a new set of Rivian twins on the market, but most of updates on the R1T and R1S are under the skin. But they're very significant!
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The new R1T and R1S feature new batteries, new motors, a new electrical architecture, new lighting, and new substantive updates to the interior — Jason flew to Washington to drive them on and off-road.
The new R1 includes infotainment updates that includes Apple Music — but still no Apple CarPlay, which Jason finds to be a wart on an otherwise near-perfect machine.
The other wart is the ride quality — it's still fantastic off-road, and it's better, but it's not up to the level of greatness attained by the rest of the vehicle.
The quad-motor variant rips off a face-melting 2.5-second 0-60 and 10.5 @ 130 mph in the quarter mile — which is impressive. But necessary?
Of course, the Carmudgeons spend some time insulting Subaru drivers (admitting that their experience with slow Subarus might be a San Francisco Bay Area phenomenon) but looking at some national statistics that show that Subaru drivers are the worst of any passenger-car brand.
And of course, they address people comparing their previous Waymo self-driving robotaxi episode experience to Tesla's Full Self Driving. They're not even remotely close.
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We discuss the future of motoring in the back seat of a Jaguar I-Pace while it's being self-driven by Waymo's computers around San Francisco.
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The End Must Be Nigh — because Jason Cammisa convinced the ultimate self-driving car-hating Carmudgeon, Derek Tam-Scott, to ride along in the back of a Waymo on an hour-long city adventure. And even Derek had to admit...
We're getting ahead of ourselves. There's discussion about:
Who Is Waymo?
How is Waymo different than other autonomous brands like Cruise or Uber?
How do you hail a Waymo cab?
...and important journalistic endeavors like:
What happens if a minivan cuts you off and ABS'es to a stop in front of you?
Jason's Van, Jynah, wanted to know. So we found out.
The other question: to what standard should we hold self-driving taxis? Should they follow all rules? Should they prioritize safety and smoothness (like Jason suggests) or do whatever possible to minimize commute time, even at the risk of making passengers sick (like Derek wants?)
It's an amusing, intelligent real-time discussion on the future of self-driving cars. And no, Waymo is nothing like Tesla Autopilot or any other current car's self-driving system.
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This week, the Carmudgeons recap their recent 600-mile back-road blast, which resulted in a surprise Best Car for the Mission. Unrelated, an update on their newly-acquired V-12 cars.
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Jason and Derek now both own V-12-powered cars. Jason confesses his 850 CSI purchase, which happened while he was doing research for an upcoming Revelations episode. Derek lit his on fire while learning that it needs an engine rebuild.
Turns out the BMW 850CSi has the shortest gear ratios of any V-12 car ever sold — and Jason is a self-described whore for short gearing.
Meanwhile, Derek bought a V12, manual Ferrari that has no compression in several cylinders.
The main subject of the episode is one of Jason and Derek's many friend-group backroad trips in Northern California. As usual, it was a varied group of cars:
Jason brought "Beatrice," his E30 BMW 325i sedan.
Derek brought his race-prepped Mk5 Volkswagen GTI.
Also present was a BMW Z3 2.8, an NA Miata, a GR Corolla, and one car that was very much not appropriate for tight mountain roads:
A C126 Mercedes 560SEC.
And the Mercedes was, by far, everyone's favorite. Wildly obese and far too large, with non-performance tires, the W126-chassis Mercedes should have been miserable. And what it instead demonstrated was perfect chassis balance, an indefatigable, 300-hp Euro/Japan-spec 5.5-liter engine, and a riotous time.
Sometimes, it's the wrong car on the right road that's the most fun.
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It's largely being reported in the media that Electric Vehicles are in trouble — sales are down, inventory is up, and customers just aren't interested. Is any of this true?
...or is this just a blip in the now-unavoidable transition away from combustion vehicles?
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Special Tuesday Episode: Happy Memorial Day!
Hyundai is making great EVs. BMW is making really good EVs. Tesla (despite the controversy) is still selling the dickens out of its cars — and the new "Highland" Model 3 is nearly perfect.
But the rest of the industry? Perhaps no one is interested in their cars because the cars are crap. We don't know.
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This is an inclusive list of every V-12 passenger car engine ever produced — with information, opinion, and the possibility that the V-12 isn't actually the best engine layout.
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Update: The data sharing programs from Honda, Hyundai (Verisk) and General Motors (Lexis Nexis) that we covered in Episode 143 have all been cancelled. Score one for Data Privacy and for Car Enthusiasts!
This episode stems from the quote from former Car and Driver editor (and founder of Automobile Magazine) David E. Davis, who said: “I firmly believe that everyone who is worth anything at all should own a 12-cylinder car before they die,”
We pose the question: why?
And then answer it with technical information about the V-12 engine layout, and discuss all of them — including defining the chapters of the V-12:
1. Prehistoric Luxury V12s.
2. Carbureted Performance/Racing V12s
3. Fuel-injected V12s.
4. Modern V12s.
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Y'all never thought it was going to happen, but here it is — whether you've seen the ICONS video or not, this is one to watch!
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After years of teasing, the Carmudgeon Show is finally covering the life and achievements of Ferdinand Piëch. This is where the idea began, and the boys provide far more in-depth information than Jason could cover in the relatively short ICONS episode.
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After a quick review of the updated (and even better) 2024 Mazda MX-5 Miata, the boys delve into the long-awaited Piëchisode by talking about the cars it featured.
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Included in this episode is a review and discussion of:
2024 Mazda Miata MX-5 (ND3)
1973 Porsche 911 Carrera 2.7 RS
1980 Mercedes-Benz 300SD Turbodiesel (W116)
1985 Audi Coupe Quattro (Ur-Quattro)
2002 Volkswagen Golf TDI (Mk4)
2004 Volkswagen Golf R32 (Mk4)
2004 Volkswagen Phaeton W12
2006 Bugatti Veyron 16.4
2014 Volkswagen XL1
2024 Bentley Continental GT Speed W12
and a small discussion of Ferdinand Piëch, Dieselgate, and corporate conscience (Boeing, The Ford Pinto)
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