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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Stephanie Karzon Abrams, a neuropharmacologist and founding advisor of Beyond Consulting.
Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-276-stephanie-karzon-abrams
With her unique background spanning clinical pharmacology, corporate healthcare, and the music industry, Stephanie shares insights on the intersection of psychedelic science, integrative medicine, and community building. She discusses the transformative potential of psychedelics from a neuropharmacological perspective, her work supporting ketamine clinics and plant medicine brands, as well as her journey from traditional healthcare to pioneering innovative approaches in the psychedelic space.
Stephanie Karzon Abrams, a neuropharmacologist with a Masters of Science in Clinical Pharmacology, is the founding advisor of Beyond Consulting, providing science, research, operations, and strategy solutions to organizations in the natural product, plant medicine, and psychedelic sectors. Her career spans from clinical research and Johnson & Johnson to pioneering innovative healthcare approaches.
Beyond her scientific work, she co-creates community initiatives including Public Secret music label and Mt. Mushmore educational dinner series. As a prescriber for MDMA and psilocybin therapy through Canada's Special Access Program and scientific advisor for the Microdosing Collective, she champions the integration of cutting-edge therapeutic approaches with traditional healthcare. Her work focuses on bridging scientific expertise with strategic thinking to advance innovative healthcare solutions.
Highlights:
Origins of Public Secret record label and global groove music collective Rich cultural background and journey from Montreal to California Stephanie breaks down clinical psychopharmacology Mount Mushmore Transition from J&J to psychedelic medicine consulting Stephanie's firm, Beyond Consulting Supporting ketamine clinics and integrative medicine centers Deep dive into neuropharmacology of psychedelics vs traditional medications Microdosing applications for ADHD and anxiety Importance of lifestyle changes alongside psychedelic protocols Managing work-life balance in the psychedelic industryLinks:
Beyond Consulting Public Secret Music Label Microdosing CollectiveEpisode Sponsors:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Paul Karasik, a pioneering figure in both corporate leadership and psychedelic spaces.
Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-275-paul-karasik/?ref=278
Karasik shares his remarkable journey from co-founding Thompson's Ranch commune in Joshua Tree to becoming one of America's leading sales consultants. He discusses his recent book "Getting High on Leadership" and explores how psychedelics can transform leadership through heart-centered approaches. The conversation weaves through themes of community building, conscious business practices, and the vital intersection of higher consciousness with modern leadership principles.
Paul Karasik brings decades of experience in the world of psychedelics. He was a member of the early psychedelic community in New York and California, which included such luminaries as Timothy Leary and Ram Dass.
Paul co-founded Thompson's Ranch, one of the first alternative communities in Joshua Tree, CA. His ninth and most recent book, published in 2024 is "Getting High on Leadership: The Leader’s Guide to Higher Consciousness". Paul and the Psychedelic Institute of Los Angeles are dedicated to making information and safe access available to anyone and everyone who is seeking to awaken their consciousness.
Highlights:
Founding Thompson's Ranch: From Haight-Ashbury to Joshua Tree Why the 60s missed the healing potential of psychedelics Health crisis catalyzes spiritual transformation in Brazil Creating with intention How compassionate leadership drives business success Building psychedelic community Collaborating with Cypress Hill's B-Real for Awakening 2024Episode Sponsor:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Kat Courtney, a plant medicine pioneer with over 15 years of experience as a psychedelic integration coach. Kat shares her journey from struggling with mental health issues to finding healing through ayahuasca. She discusses the complementary relationship between ayahuasca and huachuma (San Pedro), the practice of master plant dietas, and her approach to psychedelic integration. Kat emphasizes the importance of intention, slowing down, and developing a daily spiritual practice for integrating ayahuasca experiences.
Tina “Kat” Courtney is a Plant Medicine pioneer with 2 decades of professional psychedelic experience. She’s the author of Plant Medicine Mystery School Vol 1: The Superhero Healing Powers of Psychotropic Plants, and she’s a traditionally trained Ayahuasquera and Huachumera. Kat’s also been working as a Psychedelic Integration Coach for 15 years, and is the CEO and Co-Founder of Plant Medicine People. Her entire life is devoted to helping humans discover the power of being in relationship with plant spirits.
Highlights:
Kat's personal transformation through ayahuasca Ayahuasca and huachuma: divine feminine and masculine Master plant dietas: isolated vs. social approaches Intention and reverence in plant medicine work Essential practices for ayahuasca integration Overview of Kat's themed retreat offeringsEpisode Links:
Plant Medicine People: https://plantmedicinepeople.com Kat's personal website: https://afterlife.coach Third Wave’s Microdosing Experience: https://thethirdwave.co/sp/microdosing-experience/?ref=250 Third Wave's directory: https://thethirdwave.co/directory/?ref=250Episode Sponsors:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Susannah Rose Stokes, co-founder of Metamorphosis Ventures.
Click here for full show notes, links, & summary: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-273?ref=278
Susannah shares her remarkable journey from Marine Corps officer to embodied priestess and psychedelic guide. She discusses her transformative experiences with plant medicines, the importance of integration, and her mission to create supportive containers for psychedelic healing.
Susannah explores the concept of metamorphosis, balancing microdosing and macrodosing protocols, and her approach to guiding others through profound personal change.
After serving in two combat tours in Afghanistan as a Marine Corps Officer, Susannah experienced a spiritual awakening that changed her life forever.
Since then, she’s dedicated her life as an Energy Priestess and Embodied Consciousness Guide. She’s served dozens of people in 1:1 and group ceremonies, guiding them in their own spiritual awakening process.
She co-founded House of Embodied Metamorphosis, a 508c1a Faith- Based Organization that utilizes The Metamorphosis Method and their proprietary strain of psilocybin to facilitate powerful personal transformations through retreats and coaching programs. She authored Entheogenerated, a comprehensive research study on existing research of psychedelics and their capacity to create individual and collective change.
She holds a Master's in Transformative Social Change, is a graduate of the US Naval Academy and speaks Mandarin Chinese and Spanish, all in service to creating more peace and connection.
As a changemaker, Susannah weaves ancient and modern techniques, paving a path for fellow leaders to create transformation toward a world full of trust, co-creation and abundance for all.
Highlights:
Susannah's journey from the Marine Corps to plant medicine facilitation The transformative power of San Pedro ceremonies Shifting from warrior for war to warrior for peace The meaning and challenges of personal metamorphosis Balancing microdosing and macrodosing protocols The concept of the embodied priestess Founding Metamorphosis Ventures and The Metamorphosis MethodEpisode Links:
Metamorphosis Ventures Susannah on InstagramEpisode Sponsors:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dave Schoof, a master certified coach and international leadership consultant.
Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-272?ref=278
Dave shares his journey from working in intelligence to becoming a leadership coach, and how he eventually incorporated psychedelics into his practice. He discusses the power of integral theory in organizational development, the importance of emergence and unfolding in leadership, and how psychedelics can catalyze personal growth and leadership transformation. Dave also reflects on his experience in the Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Practitioner Training Program, and offers insights on the future of leadership in our complex world.
Dave Schoof is an international leadership consultant specializing in helping leaders and teams build on their capabilities and move to the next level of performance and effectiveness. With over 25 years of experience across corporate, non-profit, and government sectors, Dave works with clients globally. He is a master-certified coach from the International Coach Federation and Integral Coaching Canada. Dave's background includes a 20-year career in the intelligence community. A long-time meditator, he enjoys finding practical ways to operationalize wisdom from various traditions into his work with leaders. Dave lives near Lausanne, Switzerland, where he enjoys hiking and photography.
Highlights:
Dave's journey to Switzerland Dave's background in intelligence and transition to leadership coaching The development and impact of integral theory How psychedelics found Dave and their potential for leadership development The importance of nervous system regulation and safety in psychedelic experiences Dave's transformative experience at the Brave Earth retreat The evolving landscape of psychedelic acceptance in leadership circles The need for a new paradigm of leadership in the face of global challengesEpisode Links:
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In this special bonus episode, we’re sharing a replay of our recent live webinar, “Visionary Leadership: Revolutionizing Executive Coaching with Psychedelics.” Paul F. Austin is joined by two expert guests:
Dr. Amy Albright - An executive coach and intuitive who combines science-driven methodology with intuitive knowing. She has worked with companies valued from $10M to $3B and has a background in cognitive psychology and Chinese medicine.
Eric Kaufmann - An executive coach and author who blends business expertise with Zen wisdom. He mentors CEOs and executives through leadership challenges and is a Fellow at Harvard's Institute of Coaching.
The conversation explores how psychedelics and altered states of consciousness can enhance leadership development and executive coaching. Paul, Dr. Amy, and Eric dive into intersection of business, spirituality, and altered states of consciousness. They also explore using neurofeedback and meditation to complement psychedelic experiences, integrating psychedelic insights into corporate environments, and much more.
Highlights:
Amy shares her background and experience with altered states of consciousness Amy’s approach to executive coaching Eric’s perspective on altered states vs. altered traits of consciousness Neurofeedback and meditation as complementary practices to psychedelics Insights on integrating psychedelic experiences into corporate environments Perspectives on bringing feminine energy into business leadershipEpisode Sponsor:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Christi Myers, founder and CEO of Flow Integrative.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-270-christi-myers/?ref=278
Christi shares her journey from emergency medicine to pioneering ketamine-assisted therapy protocols. She discusses the science behind ketamine's effects on the brain, her work developing standards for ketamine therapy with Dr. Bronner's, and her vision for expanding access to this transformative treatment.
Christi offers insights on responsible implementation of ketamine therapy and how it can be integrated with other healing modalities.
Christi Myers, the visionary Founder and CEO of Flow Integrative, has charted an inspiring path of transformation. With nearly two decades of experience as a Paramedic, she has made significant contributions to renowned organizations including the Department of Defense, American Medical Response, Air Methods, San Bernardino County Fire and Sheriff Department, and the Department of Justice.
Motivated by her firsthand experience with the mental health challenges that often plague first responders, and her own journey through PTSD, Myers founded Flow Integrative in 2020. The organization’s mission is to destigmatize and expand access to psychedelic therapies, offering tools for growth, symptom relief, and holistic well-being, with a particular focus on frontline workers dealing with complex trauma.
Highlights:
Christi's background in emergency medicine and as an educator How ketamine works in the brain and impacts the default mode network Developing ketamine therapy protocols for Dr. Bronner's employees Combining ketamine with other healing modalities like PEMF and red light therapy Safety considerations and contraindications for ketamine therapy Christi's vision for empowering more practitioners to offer ketamine therapyEpisode Sponsor:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Joshua Kappel, a founding partner of Vicente LLP and co-author of Colorado's Proposition 122, the Natural Medicine Health Act.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-269-joshua-kappel-esq/?ref=278
Joshua shares his journey from cannabis law to psychedelic policy reform, detailing the groundbreaking aspects of Colorado's legislation.
He discusses the nuances of becoming a licensed psychedelic facilitator, regulations for healing centers, and the state's approach to manufacturing and cultivation.
Joshua also explores the broader landscape of psychedelic policy reform across the United States, offering insights into potential future developments and the challenges faced by the emerging industry.
Joshua Kappel is a founding partner of Vicente LLP with a passion for helping entrepreneurs and visionaries build human-centric and regenerative companies in the cannabis and psychedelic industries. Joshua co-authored Colorado's Proposition 122, the Natural Medicine Health Act, and served as chair of the campaign committee for Natural Medicine Colorado. He helped draft Colorado's Amendment 64, the first state measure to legalize cannabis for all adults. Joshua is a founding board member of the Microdosing Collective and serves as a founding member of the Psychedelic Bar Association. He is recognized by his peers in Best Lawyers in America for his work in cannabis law and was repeatedly named one of "Denver's Top Lawyers" by 5280 Magazine.
Highlights:
Joshua's background in cannabis law and transition to psychedelic policy Key components of Colorado's Natural Medicine Health Act Details on becoming a licensed psychedelic facilitator in Colorado Regulations for psychedelic healing centers and service locations Manufacturing and cultivation licenses for psychedelic products Outlook on psychedelic policy reform in other statesLinks:
Vicente LLP Microdosing CollectiveEpisode Sponsors:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Chris Villar, a successful entrepreneur turned executive coach.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-268-chris-villar/?ref=278
Chris shares his journey from Goldman Sachs to founding Frontpoint Security, a company he grew to $125 million in revenue before selling in 2020. He discusses his transition into psychedelic-assisted coaching, exploring how these experiences have shaped his approach to personal growth and professional development. Chris offers valuable insights on balancing high achievement with mental wellbeing, the importance of emotional processing, and how psychedelics can be integrated into a holistic approach to peak performance and self-discovery.
Chris Villar studied finance & accounting at Georgetown University and began his career at Goldman Sachs, where he led a $500 million investment portfolio in the home security industry. In 2007, he left Goldman and founded Frontpoint Security, an early disruptor for self-installed alarm systems and smart home technology.
Chris served as CEO from inception to over $125-million in revenue as the company grew to nearly 800 employees and received frequent recognition for both customer and employee satisfaction. After selling the company in 2020, Chris founded VILLAR Coaching, a boutique coaching practice focused on helping founders (and other high achievers) scale their companies while cultivating skills in peak performance and fundamental wellbeing.
Chris has done extensive work to overcome a lifetime of stress, anxiety, and burnout and to detach from the lifelong grip of achievement; and now enjoys helping others do the same. He lives in Washington, DC with his husband and their 10-year old beagle and enjoys the outdoors, hiking, and traveling.
Highlights:
Chris's journey from Goldman Sachs to founding Frontpoint Security Key lessons learned as a founder and entrepreneur Chris's introduction to psychedelics and their impact on his life The role of psychedelics in emotional processing and creativity Insights from "The Path of Least Resistance" by Robert Fritz Chris's unique perspective as an executive coach with founder experience -
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Alli Schaper, CEO and Co-Founder of SuperMush & The Microdosing Collective.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-267-alli-schaper/?ref=278
Alli shares her journey from corporate America to becoming a leader in the functional and psychedelic mushroom space. They discuss the importance of microdosing, the challenges of psychedelic policy reform, and the mission of the Microdosing Collective. Alli emphasizes the potential of microdosing to enhance mental health, increase empathy, and create positive societal change. The conversation covers personal experiences, the need for consumer protection in the underground market, and the vision for making microdosing legally accessible.
Alli Schaper is the CEO and co-founder of SuperMush, an LA-based mental wellness lifestyle brand. She is a speaker, entrepreneur, podcast host, educator, and community builder. She has been featured in Forbes 30 under 30, National Geographic, YPO, Summit Series, Well+Good, Rolling Stone, Goop, Bloomberg and more.
Alli is a sought after thought leader on topics like mental health, functional mushrooms, microdosing, psychedelic policy, and building a better relationship with death.
Alli's mission is to help make the world more colorful and fun and help wake people up by getting their brains and bodies off pharmaceuticals, and back into balance through the power of fungi. SuperMush has been called “The Redbull of Mushrooms”, and in just 2 years has grown into a multi-million dollar empire, built a viral 400k following across social channels, hosted 75+ IRL events across the U.S., and is backed by founders of Thrive Market, Netflix, Hu, Zumba, and more.
She is also the host of SuperMush's popular mental health podcast, Into The Multiverse. Guests are globally-acclaimed artists, creatives, doctors, therapists, and leaders across wellness, mental health, consciousness, and psychedelics (previous guests: Rick Doblin, Gabby Reece, Charlotte McKinney, Devon Levesque, Noah Cyrus).
Her passion for public policy and bringing microdosing psychedelics mainstream led her to co-found Microdosing Collective, the first nonprofit in the US focused on legal advocacy for microdosing.
Highlights:
Mushrooms and death Alli's journey from corporate America to psychedelic advocacy SuperMush and Into the Multiverse Microdosing Collective Challenges and experiences in psychedelic policy reform Vision for legal microdosing access and its potential societal impact The power of personal stories in advancing psychedelic policy How to get involved and support the Microdosing CollectiveEpisode Sponsors:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Rachelle Sampson, an executive coach, professor of business at the University of Maryland, and board member at the USONA Institute.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-266-rachelle-sampson-llb-phd/?ref=278
Dr. Sampson shares insights from the Connected Leadership Project, a groundbreaking study exploring how psychedelic experiences with psilocybin impact decision-making and leadership in business executives.
Dr. Rachelle Sampson is a distinguished researcher and executive coach. She is Associate Professor of Public Policy at the Robert H. Smith School of Business, University of Maryland, and Senior Research Fellow at the ESG Institute, Wharton School, University of Pennsylvania. Dr. Sampson also serves on the Board of Directors for the Usona Institute, a non-profit conducting clinical trials for psilocybin and 5-MEO-DMT.
Dr. Sampson co-leads a pioneering research project on the impact of psychedelics on leadership creativity and decision-making, driven by her curiosity about the role of business organizations in catalyzing systems change.
Highlights:
Introduction to Dr. Rachelle Sampson and her background in business research and leadership Initial interest in psychedelics’ impact on leaders The genesis of the Connected Leadership Project Key findings from the pilot study with business leaders Observations on transformative experiences and their impact on leadership On the longevity of psychedelic effects in leadership contexts Exploration of narcissism concerns in leadership and psychedelics The potential for psychedelics to catalyze systems changeEpisode Links:
Connected Leadership Study Dr. Sampson on LinkedIn Dr. Sampson’s coaching practice The Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Practitioner Certification ProgramEpisode Sponsors:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Wade Lightheart, co-founder and president of BiOptimizers.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-265-wade-t-lightheart/?ref=278
Wade shares his journey from bodybuilding to creating one of the world's best supplement brands. He discusses the importance of digestive health, the role of enzymes and probiotics, and how plant medicine experiences have shaped his philosophy on health and consciousness. Wade emphasizes the need for a holistic approach to wellness that combines physical, mental, and spiritual practices.
Wade T. Lightheart is a Certified Sports Nutritionist Advisor and president/director of education and co-founder of BIOptimizers. As a plant-based and drug-free athlete for more than two decades, Wade is a three-time National Natural Bodybuilding Champion who competed in both the IFBB Mr. Universe and the INBA Natural Olympia by the age of 31. At the age of 50, Wade came out of retirement to win the Open Men’s and Grand Master’s Categories at the INBA Ironman International, then competed at The PNBA Natural Olympia. Six months later, Wade successfully ran his first marathon in four hours.
Highlights:
Experiences with psychedelics and near-death experiences Wade's journey from bodybuilding to plant-based nutrition The five-stage process of digestion and modern food challenges The role of magnesium in health and its importance in Bioptimizers products BiOptimizers' mission and vision for the future The free "84 days" course offered by BioptimizersEpisode Links:
BiOptimizers' Magnesium Breakthrough (Third Wave Discount applied) BiOptimizers on Instagram BiOptimizers on FacebookEpisode Sponsors:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Tonia Erin, a psychedelic practitioner and graduate of The Psychedelic Coaching Institute’s Practitioner Training Program.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-264-tonia-erin/?ref=278
Tonia shares her journey from a successful career in tech at Adobe to becoming a psychedelic coach and startup founder. She discusses her work with Energy.Work, a platform bridging technology and spirituality, and explores the potential of ultra-low dose 5-MeO-DMT. Tonia also delves into the importance of bringing feminine energy into psychedelic work and the value of ceremony and ritual in personal development.
Tonia Erin's life’s work is woven from threads of deep spiritual inquiry and a heartfelt calling to facilitate transformation and healing. Having ventured through the realms of technology and leadership, she found her true passion in bridging the ancient wisdom of earth-based practices with modern approaches to personal growth.
For over two decades, Tonia immersed herself in the tech industry, where she led teams and pioneered innovative projects. Yet, beneath the surface, she was cultivating a rich, inner landscape through her studies and practices in spirituality and self-development. Her journey took a transformative turn when she embraced the profound teachings of psychedelics, which deepened her relationships with herself and the world around her.
Driven by a vision to support others on their paths to self-discovery, she left the corporate world to dedicate herself to coaching and healing work. She is a certified coach specializing in psychedelic preparation and integration with a passion for creating sacred spaces and facilitating ceremonies that honor the rites of passage that unfold throughout our lives.
Highlights:
Transitioning from tech to psychedelic coaching The role of psychedelics in career transitions energy.work: Bridging technology and spirituality The potential of ultra-low dose 5-MeO-DMT The importance of data in psychedelic research Working with women in psychedelic integration Creating rituals for life transitions Building nature-inspired technologiesEpisode Links:
Tonia’s Website energy.work Tonia on Instagram Tonia on LinkedIn The Psychedelic Coaching Institute -
In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Matthew Dawson, co-founder and CEO of Wild Health.
Find full show notes and links here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-263-matt-dawson-md/?ref=278
Dr. Dawson shares his journey from sports to medicine, highlighting the importance of movement and play in human well-being. He discusses Wild Health's innovative approach, combining cutting-edge technology with reconnecting people to nature.
Dr. Matthew Dawson attended medical school at The University of Kentucky before completing his residency in emergency medicine at The University of Utah, where he served as both chief resident and fellow. He has practiced medicine and was an associate professor at the University of Kentucky for 7 years, with an acute interest in functional medicine and, later, genomics. Dr. Dawson's obsession with performance optimization began well before medical school. Dr. Dawson crystallized this approach to providing patients with true health care, rather than sick care, by building Wild Health – a Precision Medicine service providing personalized, genetics-based care to help patients achieve optimal wellbeing. Dr. Dawson also co-hosts the Wild Health Podcast.
Highlights:
From athlete to physician: Dr. Dawson's journey Wild Health: Merging technology and nature Psychedelics' potential in personalized medicine Genetic factors in psychedelic metabolism Balancing objective metrics and subjective experiences Holistic approaches to health optimization AI-driven personalized health recommendations Epigenetics: The frontier of diagnostics Citizen science in advancing personalized medicine Health Sovereignty: Empowering individuals through personalized medicineEpisode Sponsor:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Stephen Thayer, a clinical psychologist and lead trainer for psychedelic therapists at Numinus.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-262-stephen-thayer-phd/?ref=278
Dr. Thayer shares his journey from military psychologist to psychedelic-assisted therapy specialist, discussing his personal experiences with ketamine and psilocybin. He explores the integration of psychedelics into therapy and coaching, highlighting the distinctions between these roles. Dr. Thayer emphasizes the importance of facilitator training and personal psychedelic experiences, making a compelling case for evidence-based psychedelic mental healthcare alongside ceremonial or spiritual contexts.
Note: This conversation was recorded in May 2024, prior to the FDA's decision on Lykos Therapeutics' MDMA-assisted therapy clinical trial for PTSD. The recent FDA ruling, which requested additional studies, will impact some of the information discussed regarding MDMA's path to medical approval. However, we believe this episode remains valuable for its insights into the broader landscape of psychedelic therapy, practitioner training, and the ongoing evolution of the field. Enjoy!
Dr. Steve Thayer, Ph.D. is a clinical psychologist who specializes in psychedelic-assisted therapy practice, training, and research. He began his career in the U.S. Air Force where he led mental health care teams, provided therapeutic and assessment services, and counseled military leadership about community mental health concerns. As an adjunct professor, Dr. Thayer has taught graduate and undergraduate courses in counseling skills, clinical psychology, and personality theory. He has served as the lead therapist on several psychedelic medicine clinical trials and currently consults for Compass Pathways as a mentor to the therapists working on their phase 3 trial of psilocybin for treatment-resistant depression. Dr. Thayer is the Lead Instructor for Numinus's psychedelic-assisted therapy certification program and co-hosts Numinus's podcast, Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers. Dr. Thayer has a private therapy and coaching practice where he helps people resolve the unconscious blocks keeping them from creating the happiness, wealth, freedom, and relationships they crave.
Highlights:
From military psychology to psychedelic therapy Personal explorations with ketamine and psilocybin Psychedelics for mental health and spiritual exploration Integrating psychedelics into therapy and coaching Motivation for entering the psychedelic industry Bringing psychedelic awareness to the unconscious mind The potential for harm in the psychedelic underground Principles of effective psychedelic facilitation Assessing personal readiness as a psychedelic facilitator Experiential MDMA training for therapists Balancing evidence-based and spiritual approachesEpisode Sponsors:
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In this bonus episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, recorded live on Third Wave's community platform, Paul F. Austin welcomes Maria Dimakos, a Greek lineage holder, medicine woman, and graduate of The Psychedelic Coaching Institute's Practitioner Certification Program.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-261b-maria-dimakos/?ref=278
Maria shares her journey from corporate success to becoming a spiritual teacher and psychedelic practitioner. She discusses her experiences as a death doula, her deep connection to Greek heritage, and the transformative power of psychedelic experiences. Maria also explores her vision for resurrecting mystery schools in Greece and creating healing temples that honor ancient wisdom while embracing modern practices. Join future live recordings by setting up a free account at community.thethirdwave.co.
Maria Sophia is a spiritual teacher who transitioned from a successful career in start-ups and Fortune 500 companies to embrace her authentic intuitive gifts. Despite achieving corporate success, Maria felt limited in expressing her full potential in traditional work environments. Her journey of self-discovery led her to dedicate more time to spiritual practices, where she found a community that recognized and valued her unique abilities. This shift in perspective empowered Maria to fully embrace her spiritual gifts and channel them into serving others. Now, as a spiritual teacher, she guides individuals to access their own innate "superpowers" by encouraging them to look inward rather than seeking external validation. Maria's approach combines her corporate experience with spiritual insight, helping clients unlock their authentic intuitive gifts for personal growth and fulfillment.
Highlights:
Greek lineage and connection to ancient wisdom Journey from corporate success to spiritual teaching Transformative jungle hike in Costa Rica Experiences as a death doula and certified psychedelic coach Insights on integration and facilitation Vision for Greek mystery schools and healing templesEpisode Links:
Maria's Website The Psychedelic Coaching Institute Third Wave Community Platform Third Wave’s Upcoming Costa Rica Intensive (October 5-12) -
Join host Paul F. Austin in a special live episode recorded at Psychedelic Horizons in Malibu in June, 2024, with guests Louie Schwartzberg, Lauren Taus, and Bá Minuzzi.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-261-psychedelic-horizons/?ref=278
This engaging discussion explores themes of resilience, systems change, and inspired living, focusing on the intersection of psychedelics and conscious entrepreneurship. Discover insights on personal transformation, community building, and the evolving psychedelic landscape. Don't miss this unique conversation from the forefront of the psychedelic renaissance.
Louie Schwartzberg: Director of "Fantastic Fungi" and a pioneer in high-end time-lapse cinematography, Louie supports clinical research with visual imagery, bringing a visionary lens to the benefits of psilocybin mushrooms.
Lauren Taus: Founder of Inbodied Life, Lauren is a clinical therapist trained by MAPS. Her work focuses on ecologies of healing, supporting liberation, and integrating societal systems for growth and healing.
Bá Minuzzi: Entrepreneur and conscious investor, Bá leads wealth management for high-net-worth clients with UMANA. She champions psychedelic medicine as a transformative force for societal change.
Highlights:
Introduction to panel discussion Lessons from the mycelial network of fungi Embracing the third wave of psychedelics Navigating challenges in business The balancing act of integrity and vision Seeking reverence for plant life Using beauty to fight fear The inner work of leaders The transformative power of psychedelicsEpisode Sponsor:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Hamilton Souther, a master shaman and innovator in plant medicine.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-260-hamilton-souther/?ref=278
Hamilton shares his journey from the tech-driven San Jose Bay Area to the Amazon, where he found his calling in shamanic plant medicine. He discusses founding Blue Morpho, the first healing center in the Peruvian Amazon focused on Amazonian natural medicine, and emphasizes the importance of education, lineage, and safety in shamanic practices.
Hamilton explores the differences between psychedelic guides and shamans, and shares his vision of bringing greater education, standardization, and safety to the psychedelic renaissance.
In 2002 at the age of 23, after graduating University in Anthropology, Hamilton Souther opened Blue Morpho, the first healing center in the Peruvian Amazon focusing on Amazonian natural medicine and the sustainable use of Amazonian Visionary Medicines.
Hamilton is a bridge between ancient wisdom and cutting-edge innovation, fully immersed in the modern world. With a foot in Web3 and AI, he is not just keeping pace with the future; he is helping to shape it. He is on a mission to awaken consciousness and technology for the betterment of humanity.
Highlights:
Upbringing, education, and journey to the Amazon The rigorous path of an Ayahuasca apprentice Involvement in the shamanic revolution Pioneering ayahuasca jungle tours with Blue Morpho Integrating shamanic plant medicine into Western society Shaman vs. guide: Crucial distinctions in psychedelic work Inside Blue Morpho Academy's innovative programs Elevating safety and standards in the psychedelic renaissanceEpisode Sponsors
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, host Paul F. Austin welcomes Tricia Eastman, medicine woman and founder of Ancestral Medicine Heart.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-259-tricia-eastman/?ref=278
Tricia shares her journey through the world of plant medicine and psychedelics, offering insights from her initiations into the Bwiti tradition and her experiences as a medicine woman.
Tricia discusses her new book, 'Seeding Consciousness', detailing the challenges and revelations encountered during the writing process. She also unveils her vision for a wellness retreat center currently under construction in the Azores, exploring how this project aligns with her mission to integrate ancestral wisdom with modern healing practices.
Throughout the conversation, Tricia and Paul delve into the transformative power of psychedelics, their potential for personal and collective evolution, and the importance of responsible use in catalyzing positive change. They explore how these powerful medicines can be safely integrated into our culture to foster healing, creativity, and spiritual growth.
Tricia Eastman, a lineage-honoring medicine woman and founder of nonprofit Ancestral Heart, bridging worlds rooted in her mestiza ancestry with profound insights from a decade of Bwiti initiations and training. A renowned speaker, artist, and writer, Eastman has been privileged to engage with audiences at Stanford University's d.school, the World Economic Forum, and on GAIA TV's Psychedelica. Eastman has curated transformative retreats worldwide with plant medicines as well as facilitated the psychospiritual program with Ibogaine and 5-MeO-DMT at Crossroads Treatment Center in Mexico. Her wellness retreat center, Hu Azores, is scheduled to open in late 2025.
Highlights: Tricia’s connection to Asheville, North Carolina Early life and introduction to psychedelics Medicine woman's journey: Tricia's path and experiences in plant medicine Committing to a life of service to the medicine Iboga initiations with the Bwiti tradition in Gabon 'Seeding Consciousness': Key themes and challenges in writing Tricia's new book The journey starting Tricia’s retreat center, Hu Azores “Eating the medicine right off the land”: The vision for the retreat centerEpisode Sponsors:
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In this episode of The Psychedelic Podcast, Paul F. Austin welcomes Dr. Jenny Martin to explore the transformative power of female pleasure through psychedelics and non-psychedelic altered states.
Find episode links, summary, and transcript here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-258-jenny-martin-edd/?ref=278
Dr. Martin shares her connection to Ireland’s mystical traditions and the hidden wisdom of sacred sex in Christianity. She delves into her journey of reclaiming her sexuality, the role of presence, nervous system regulation, and the significance of the cervix in experiencing divine states of bliss.
Dr. Jenny Martin envisions a world where the mystical informs everyday life. She created the Psychedelic Cervix Course and the Psychedelic Sex Course for Couples, teaching access to mystical states while sober. Her teaching emphasizes the importance of set & setting and is grounded in both science and ancient wisdom.
Born in Ireland and educated by nuns, she challenges toxic beliefs around pleasure and spirituality. Her work reconciles sacred sexuality with Christian teachings, exploring the hidden wisdom in the story of Jesus and Mary Magdalene. Jenny’s forthcoming book delves into the transformative potential of ecstatic sexual experiences.
Highlights:
Recovering Ireland's mystical traditions Sacred sexuality in Christianity Healing through sacred sex Demystifying divine sexual union Psychedelic Cervix: entrainment, DMT, & "trance state sex"Episode Sponsors:
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