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We are back from our season break to bring you this special and timely conversation. Since June 18, Kenya has been immersed in a political and cultural revolution. This episode features a dynamic conversation with two trailblazers in the world of media and marketing who discuss what it means to be fully present, transparent, and ethical as content creators and brand managers during unprecedented times.
Join Lilly as she sits down with Adelle Onyango, a powerhouse Kenyan media personality, founder of Legally Clueless Africa, and the visionary behind the Adelle Onyango Initiative, and Ryan Majiwa, the mastermind behind digital media and creative strategies at Saracen Marketing Group, whose impressive portfolio includes giants like EABL and Unilever. Tune in to discover how brands and creators can make meaningful, responsible choices, build authentic connections, and make a positive impact in today's rapidly evolving landscape.
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In part 2 of this special 99th episode, join Lilly and Njoki Munene as they discuss some of their favorite conversations and transformative moments from the show. They dish about what really happens before live shows and the non-negotiables that have to happen before every interview.
Lilly and Njoki talk about the growth process that has come with 99 episodes, what has worked and what hasn't - and the hard and soft life of being a creative. We hope you enjoy the final chapter of our two-part season finale! Thank you for tuning in and for your incredible support of our show. We are grateful.
Episodes Mentioned on this Episode
Selam & Done: Dennis Ombachi Chops It Up! Being a Woman Shouldn't Be a Death Sentence Gen Z Has Entered the Chat Black Queer Beloved The Case for Choice The Case for Indigenous (Re)Imaginings Habibi Al-Sudan We are Making This for Our Children Conversation with Class of 2020: Global Students in a Global Pandemic Good Intentions Aren't Good Enough: Ending Orphanage Tourism Happy New Year with Eliud Kipchoge! LIVE! Stories from Kakuma Refugee Camp Why Did You Leave?Follow Lilly:
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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Tune in for part 1 of a behind-the-scenes peek into the heart and soul of Selam & Hello that you won't want to miss in this special 99th episode of Selam & Hello! Join Creator, Host, and Executive Producer Lilly Bekele-Piper as she swaps roles and sits down with the show's Researcher and Community Manager, Njoki Munene. Get ready for an intimate conversation where they delve into Lilly's transformative journey from Up/Root to Selam & Hello, her bold move from the development sector to media, and the pivotal moments that have shaped the show.
Discover Lilly's unique approach to tackling complex issues with curiosity and compassion, insights gleaned from unforgettable live shows, and her unyielding determination to get Trevor Noah on the show. Plus, get an insider's perspective on what Lilly considers her finest achievements to date in part 1 of our two-part season finale. Enjoy!
Episodes mentioned in this show:
Selam & Done: Dennis Ombachi Chops It Up! Being a Woman Shouldn't Be a Death Sentence Gen Z Has Entered the Chat Black Queer Beloved The Case for Choice The Case for Indigenous (Re)Imaginings Habibi Al-Sudan We are Making This for Our Children Conversation with Class of 2020: Global Students in a Global Pandemic Good Intentions Aren't Good Enough: Ending Orphanage Tourism Happy New Year with Eliud Kipchoge! LIVE! Stories from Kakuma Refugee Camp Why Did You Leave?Follow Lilly:
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
Editor & Sound Engineer: Bukachi Akatsa ([email protected])
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Welcome back to part 2 of our conversation with the incredible Adelle Onyango! Adelle is the Founder of Legally Clueless Africa and the Adelle Onyango Initiative, and has quickly become and powerful and important voice in media and advocacy for women and girls. In this episode, Adelle shares her views on politics, her advocacy work as a survivor of sexual violence and her (joyful) hopes for the future!
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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We had so much fun talking with Adelle Onyango that we had to break the episodes into 2 parts! Adelle Onyango is the Founder of Legally Clueless Africa and the Adelle Onyango Initiative and has quickly become and powerful and important voice in media and in advocacy for women and girls. In part 1 of our two-part series, Lilly and Adelle discuss Adelle's transition from traditional media to creating her podcast, Legally Clueless, which features stories from extraordinary people across the continent and has become the first syndicated podcast in Kenya. Adelle shares about the transformative moment she learned she was Black, the impact of therapy on her well-being, and why this Mother's Day she felt gratitude for the first time in years. They also explore the nuances of building a profitable business and how the 'chick who started' Legally Clueless is not the same woman who runs it today.
Don't miss part two coming out next week, where Adelle shares her views on politics, her advocacy work as a survivor of sexual violence and, her (joyful) hopes for the future!
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
Editor & Sound Engineer: Bukachi Akatsa ([email protected])
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This week on Selam and Hello, we delve into the world of "Uli & Tata's African Nursery Rhymes," an animated series celebrating Africa's cultural heritage. Join us as we chat with Sarah Mallia and Manu Akatasa, the creative minds behind the project, about their journey to bring these brilliant rhymes to global audiences and the importance of preserving cultural identity through storytelling. From the challenges of research to the joy of seeing children embrace their roots, this episode explores the power of local languages and traditions in a globalized world.
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We are honored to host Kambale Musavuli, an analyst at the Center for Research on Congo & a leading human rights advocate in the Democratic Republic of Congo, on the show this week. Kambale shares his insights on the challenges and resilience of the people of the DRC and the deep-rooted historical and systemic issues contributing to ongoing conflicts. Kambale invites us to find ourselves in Congo's story and highlights what we can all do to care for 'our Congo' (Congo na biso). We also explore the exploitation of the Congo's mineral resources, the recent national elections, and discuss what a 'successful' second term for President Tshisekedi would look like. Kambale shares what he believes is the lynchpin of a brighter future for DRC and why he is so confident that Congo will be free.
Kambale references several moments in DRC political and cultural history; see below to read and listen more.
Calls for DR Congo to investigate Kinshasa burial siteMaluku residents demand justice for their lost relativesOpposition, rights group demand investigation into Congo mass burialDR Congo: Mass Graves Tied to Rwanda-Backed M23A Year of Anguish: Remembering the Killings and Sexual Violence in KishisheDRC: M23 rebels recapture Kishishe, where they are accused of a massacre in 2022Killings in Kiwanja The UN's Inability to Protect CiviliansThe Rebirth of Congo's RebellionEquity buys extra 6.6pc stake in DRC bank for Sh9.2bnEquity group CEO James Mwangi explains why DRC set to overtake KenyaEquity groupBCDCFake gold, mystery murder … and culprits are still walking freeIFC PROJECT INFORMATION & DATA PORTAWhat is happening in Congo?Follow Kambale Musavuli:
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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This week on Selam and Hello, we're honored to feature Katungulu Mwendwa, the visionary founder of Katush Nairobi. Join us as we delve into Katungulu's inspiring journey from studying fashion in the UK to establishing her own brand in Kenya, where she creatively blends traditional Kenyan influences with contemporary aesthetics. From showcasing her collections at prestigious global platforms like Paris Fashion Week to championing sustainability and ethical practices within the African fashion industry, Katungulu shares insights into her creative process, entrepreneurial journey, and her commitment to empowering local artisans. Tune in for an engaging conversation that celebrates African identity, creativity, and the transformative power of fashion.
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This week on Selam and Hello, we're honored to host Lydia Namubiru, Editor-in-Chief of The Continent. Join us as we explore the inception of The Continent, and its innovative and empowering platform for African journalism. From celebrating African excellence to shedding light on humanitarian crises and preserving cultural heritage, Lydia discusses the pivotal role of media in shaping public discourse. Despite challenges, she highlights strategies for promoting positive narratives and amplifying stories of resilience. We delve into the rise of anti-gender agendas and the cultural renaissance sweeping across Africa, reflecting on the future of African journalism amidst evolving media landscapes. Join us for a visionary journey into 'The Case for the Continent,' where hope and possibility abound.
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This week we embark on a visionary journey into 'The Case for Indigenous (Re)Imagining' as part of our ongoing exploration in 'The Case for Hope' series. Join Lilly as she sits down with two inspiring educators for liberation, Sajda Khalil and Amin Hussain, in a conversation brimming with optimism, insight, and passion. Sajda and Amin shed light on innovative approaches to African-centered education, advocating for a curriculum that reflects the diverse experiences and aspirations of the continent's children. They passionately argue for the liberation of educational systems, championing a holistic approach that cultivates critical thinking, creativity, and cultural pride - allowing future generations to define success on their own terms. Join us as we explore a future where tradition, resilience, and cultural vibrancy pave the way for joy and justice.
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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This week we are privileged to hear one woman's story on her journey towards choosing the life she wants to live. Muthoni Gitau, a notable content creator and podcaster shares her choice to be child-free, the many challenges she has faced in that journey, and ultimately, how she reached her destination. Muthoni shares the questions and answers she has wrestled with in her path to reproductive health and that there are many ways women 'mother' without having children. Join us as we navigate the multifaceted dynamics of choice, probing intersections of personal agency, cultural paradigms, and disparities in resource access in the region.
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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This week on Selam and Hello, Lilly delves into the world of traditional medicine with Vitalice Ochieng, Senior Program Manager at the Trust for Indigenous Culture and Health (TICAH). Together they discuss the motivation and tenets of TICAH's book 'Using Our Traditions: A Health & Nutritional Guide for Kenyan Families' and explore their efforts in preserving and promoting traditional medical knowledge, the potential integration of traditional and modern medicine, and the challenges hindering broader acceptance of traditional practices. Vitalice also highlights the work TICAH does to connect cultures across Kenya and advocate for policies that would allow for rigorous testing and oversight of traditional medicine - allowing them to enter more mainstream markets. Finally, they envision the future of traditional medicine in Kenya, Africa, and the diaspora, celebrating its history in fostering resilience and well-being. Join us as we journey into 'The Case for Traditional Medicine,' celebrating age-old healing traditions and their vital role in holistic health.
We are giving away one copy of TICAH's book 'Using Our Traditions'! Comment on our social media pages about your favorite holistic remedies, a cultural practice or wisdom passed down to you from your elders and you will be entered in our drawing!
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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This week, Lilly delves into the world of comedy with Doug Mutai. Doug, Founder of the Kenya Standup Collective and Co-Founder of the Nairobi International Comedy Festival, joins us to share how he got started, the current trends in comedy in Kenya and what makes a good joke. Doug shares how language is an important cultural signal when writing comedy and his insights into navigating sensitive topics like politics in front of a crowd. Aspiring comedians will find valuable advice from Doug's experiences, highlighting the transformative impact of humor. Join us as we delve into 'The Case for Comedy', celebrating comedy's role in fostering resilience and spreading hope.
Tickets to Nairobi International Comedy Festival here!
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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This week, Lilly dives into the world of journalism with Maya Misikir. Maya is the founder of SIFTER, a weekly newsletter that highlights the top five stories from Ethiopia, shining a light on the challenge of discerning truth in an age of misinformation. Maya shares her journey to journalism, the creation of SIFTER as a beacon for reliable and inclusive news, and her commitment to impartial reporting amidst Ethiopia's political and economic complexities. They discuss the significance of language accessibility and media literacy, while Maya offers invaluable insights for young journalists and stresses the importance of mindful news consumption. This episode is a testament to the power of informed storytelling and the critical role of journalists in shaping our understanding of the world.
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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According to the IMF, around 60 percent of the Africa's population engages in the informal sector - a world where many workers navigate the challenges of vulnerability while seeking dignified employment. In this episode, Lilly and her guest, Wangeci Kamau, the innovative founder of Good Housekeeping Africa, shine a light on the realities of domestic work and informal employment, advocating for dignity, respect, and fair treatment. UNDP's insights into the informal economy, post-COVID-19, underscore the critical moment for African governments to embrace inclusive, sustainable recovery strategies that acknowledge and bolster the informal economy's role. This episode is a call to action, urging a transformation in the domestic help industry and inspiring hope for a more equitable future.
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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In today's episode, Lilly explores how she is mining for hope amid hard days. She offers a 'case for hope' based on both the local and global 'microjoys' she's stumbled across lately. Her reflection kicks off an upcoming series of episodes that will make the case for some of life's most universal needs and concerns and how we can find hope in each of them. Its a short - but poignant - offering we hope you enjoy.
"Discovering more joy does not save us from the inevitability of hardship and heartbreak. In fact, we may cry more easily, but we will laugh more easily too. Perhaps we are just more alive. Yet as we discover more joy, we can face suffering in a way that ennobles rather than embitters. We have hardship without becoming hard. We have heartbreaks without being broken."
Archbishop Desmond Tutu (source)Links to resources cited in the show:
Cyndie Spiegel's book 'Microjoys' Anne Lamott's book 'Help, Thanks, Wow'AFRICAN GOOD NEWS (X)Worldview Upgrader In Kenya, over 90% of electricity is generated by renewable energyThe malaria vaccine that just rolled out has a surprise benefit for kidsLesotho Tourism Life expectancy in Ethiopia was 69 years in 2019; just a few years behind USA at 77Follow Selam & Hello:
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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Dive into an electrifying live episode of Selam & Hello, recorded live at the 2024 Africa Media Festival, featuring the legendary actor, author, broadcaster, and teacher - Mwalimu John Sibi-Okumu, OGW!
In this captivating conversation, Mwalimu Sibi-Okumu joins host Lilly to explore the transformative power of artists as disruptors within media and society. Through gripping anecdotes and vivid storytelling, he shines a spotlight on hidden stories of some of Africa's most influential political figures, illustrating how disruption can be a potent instrument of truth and change.
Mwalimu Sibi-Okumu examines the critical role artists have to 'speak the unspeakable,' and challenges us to embrace our role as activists and amplify the voices of those whose stories remain unheard. With his trademark humor and grace, Mwalimu shares invaluable lessons from his five decades in media and the arts, inspiring a live audience of over 200 people to shift their focus inward, champion African agendas, and disrupt the status quo for the advancement of our own knowledge and progress.
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Mwalimu John Sibi-Okumu has had a storied career as a writer, columnist, stage actor-director-playwright, TV & film actor, voice-over artist, and radio & TV broadcaster. In 2022, he was named to the Order of the Golden Warrior in recognition of his outstanding contributions to arts and culture in Kenya.
Mwalimu JSO has played more than 40 characters on stage, including Romeo, Shylock, and King Oedipus, and has acted in global films, including The Constant Gardener, Shake Hands with the Devil, and The First Grader. Mwalimu JSO is the author of six original, published plays and has also written published prose and poetry. On television, he memorably presented not only prime-time news but also The Summit and The Zain Africa Challenge. On the former, he is credited with being the only TV host to have had a one-on-one interview with the late President Daniel arap Moi, complementing the interviews he has had with four other African presidents. Read more of his bio here.
John Sibi Okumu Collected Plays 2004-2014 by John Sibi Okumu is available at Nuria Store and Prestige Book Store.
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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Caleb Maru, is a tech entrepreneur and partner at Proximity Ventures. He joins Lilly this week to discuss the current trends in and the future of tech and innovation in Africa. He shares his journey from pursuing law in Australia to investing in the tech space in east Africa and starting a bi-weekly newsletter, Tech Safari, which has over 18,000 subscribers. Caleb highlights the challenges faced by tech entrepreneurs and the importance of bridging the gap between Africa and the diaspora through impactful investments and collaboration. Caleb also shares insights into the seed-to-scale pipeline, highlights some exciting new companies in the region and offers insightful advice for entrepreneurs entering the tech sector.
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Production by: Sahihi Africa Productions
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In loving memory of Charles 'Charli' Ouda.
In this captivating episode of our podcast, join Lilly as she dives into an enthralling conversation with the illustrious Wanuri Kahiu, a visionary force in Kenyan filmmaking and storytelling whose groundbreaking work has not only influenced African cinema but has also captivated audiences worldwide. Today, we discover the vibrant world of AFROBUBBLEGUM, an innovative genre and media company, co-founded by Wanuri, aimed at creating, curating, and commissioning fun, fierce and frivolous African art. Lilly and Wanuri explore the underlying motivations and storytelling ethos behind her cinematic feats, including the delightful Rafiki, the award-winning movie that was the first Kenyan film invited to the Cannes Film Festival, her Netflix blockbuster, Look Both Ways and the upcoming series, Washington Black, which she directed for Hulu/20th Century Fox. Wanuri offers her aspirations for the future of the Kenyan film industry and shares how joy is the north star in her cinematic galaxy.
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Note: This episode contains mention of sexual assault and gender-based violence.
In a powerful episode following the anti-femicide protests across Kenya on January 27th, 2024, Lilly converses with Maria Maina, a lawyer and writer who created the blog and social media platform, Social Justice Insights Kenya, which focuses on human rights and gender equality, and Audrey Mogeni, co-founder of Femicide Count - Kenya (FC-Kenya). In this discussion, Lilly, Audrey, and Maria tackle the pressing femicide crisis in Kenya, the gaps in the legal framework around it, and the governmental and societal responses to it. They delve into the challenges of accessing safety and support, and the effectiveness of recent public marches and awareness campaigns. The conversation critically evaluates current strategies against femicide and explores hope for future progress in ensuring justice and safety for women and girls across Kenya.
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What to do if you have been sexually assaulted Usikimye's free services for women in Kenya 43% Of Women In Kenya Believe That A Husband Is Justified In Beating His Wife (2023) The UN on Femicide Femicide Rates by CountryEmail us at:
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