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Tim Beissinger and Renee Miller, the dynamic duo behind the social media phenomenon “The Thruhikers,” join Maddie Pellman, host of Who Runs This Park, Park Enthusiasts Edition. With over 2 million TikTok followers and 380K on Instagram, Tim and Renee have captivated audiences with their adventures, expertise, and humor.
In this episode, we explore their incredible journey, from thruhiking the Pacific Crest Trail to designing their own trail routes like the Pacific Northwest Circuit. We talk about their athletic evolution, from marathons, to IRONMANS to thruhiking to their new interest of trail running. We also learn about their process of writing and publishing their book, Thruhikers: A Guide to Life on the Trail. They share behind-the-scenes stories from their viral social media posts, like dehydrating rice and the controversy of hiking with minimal gear.
Tim and Renee’s unique approach to adventure includes meticulously planning their trips—like spending two months in a Wisconsin cabin dehydrating food for the PCT—and embracing the unpredictability of life on the trail. This episode is packed with inspiration, practical tips for thruhiking, and a peek into how they balance their love for engineering with their adventurous lifestyle. Whether you’re a seasoned adventurer or a newbie to the outdoors, Tim and Renee’s story will inspire you to dream big, explore boldly, and live simply.
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This episode takes us to White Sands National Park in Southern New Mexico, home to the world’s largest gypsum dune field. The brilliant white sands form a stunning landscape shaped by both nature and history, offering a glimpse into the unique ecosystems and cultural heritage of the border region. White Sands, once a National Monument, became a National Park in 2019, marking an exciting chapter in its long history.
We’re joined by Marie Frias Sauter, the park’s superintendent since 2012. Marie’s journey is as dynamic as the dunes she oversees. Growing up as a dual citizen in Mexico City, her early fascination with geography and cartography led her to study at the University of Georgia, where she witnessed the transformation of traditional map-making into modern GIS technology. Over her career, Marie has lent her expertise to parks across the country, bringing her passion for preservation and innovation to every role.
In this episode, Marie shares her insights on managing a park with deep ties to both the Department of Defense and its sister park in Mexico, the evolving science of the gypsum dunes, and the park’s soon addition—the Ice Age Trail. She also discusses the discovery of ancient trackways, the thrill of hiking and sledding down the dunes, and the challenges of climate change, including the potential loss of wet dune systems as water tables decline.
Join us as we explore Marie’s extraordinary career, the vibrant culture of the borderlands, and the unique wonders of White Sands National Park.
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Kenzie Smith, Christian Outdoor Content Creator, Retreat Host, and Podcast Creator, joins Maddie Pellman, host of Who Runs This Park, Park Enthusiasts. Kenzie is the creative force behind My Valley His Victory, a podcast exploring faith, outdoor adventures, and building authentic community. A self-taught outdoorswoman, Kenzie is passionate about showing that it's never too late to learn outdoor skills—whether that's backpacking, skiing, or overlanding—and proving that adventure can be a pathway to connection and spiritual growth.
In this episode, Kenzie shares how being laid off turned out to be a blessing, sparking her journey into content creation and her mission to build a faith-centered outdoor community. From working in Alaska after college to hosting transformative women’s retreats in Colorado, Kenzie’s story is one of resilience and passion. We dive into her recent completion of the iconic John Muir Trail, her favorite annual event, The Highlander, and her experience as a former college athlete finding solace and purpose in the outdoors.
Kenzie’s Instagram community is a testament to her belief in the power of shared adventures. You’ll leave this episode inspired to pursue your own outdoor journey, embrace new challenges, and maybe even plan your next big hike. Whether you’re a seasoned adventurer or just starting out, Kenzie’s story will resonate with anyone longing to find their place in the wild.
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Erin Sprague, CEO of Protect Our Winters (POW), joins Maddie Pellman, host of Who Runs This Park, Park Enthusiasts. POW is the outdoor movement driving climate action, fueled by the world’s most influential athletes, artists, and brands. With Erin at the helm—an intelligent, passionate, and adventurous leader—POW is tackling the climate crisis through transformative policy solutions and grassroots advocacy.
In this episode, we dive into the heart of POW and the remarkable journey of Erin herself. For Erin, national parks laid the foundation for her love of the outdoors—she even got married in Yosemite. Her career is a testament to bold pivots: from finance to the outdoor industry to climate advocacy, she has embraced a life of purpose and adventure. From completing a four-month bike race in Africa to being the youngest woman to run a marathon on every continent, Erin now pursues her goal of running a marathon in all 50 states.
We geek out over Erin’s experiences at Specialized and Aspen Skiing Company, including Aspen’s legendary powder day policy. And as we unpack POW’s work, Erin explains why imperfect advocacy is key to tackling the climate crisis, how the athlete ambassador model is driving impact, and why disrupting the status quo is POW’s biggest challenge.
This episode will leave you inspired to join the movement, better informed about the climate crisis, and ready to channel your love of the outdoors into meaningful action.You can follow Who Runs This Park on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook or YouTube, can email us at [email protected] or check us out online at whorunsthispark.com.
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A special in-person episode, recorded at the National Park Friends Alliance Fall Meeting, featuring Yosemite Conservancy President & CEO Frank Dean and Yosemite National Park Superintendent Cicely Muldoon. Frank and Cicely provide a unique moment for Who Runs This Park by showcasing the incredible partnership between Yosemite and the Yosemite Conservancy, offering insights into the vital relationships between national parks and their friends groups.
This fun and laughter-filled conversation takes you behind the scenes of some fascinating stories, including the origins of the Starbucks in Yosemite Valley. We discuss the evolving and improving relationship between Yosemite and climbers (timely, as it's Rocktober!), the challenges and rewards of managing a park with over 800 miles of trails—including the iconic John Muir Trail (JMT) and Pacific Crest Trail (PCT)—and the significance of Yosemite as the birthplace of the conservation movement, where "it all began" for the National Park Service.
We also explore the power of leading with empathy and humor, reflect on Cicely's 40 years of service with the Park Service, and reminisce about Frank and Cicely’s friendship, which began nearly 35 years ago during the 1989 Exxon Valdez Oil Spill in Alaska.
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Sandy Colhoun, National Outdoor Leadership School (NOLS) President, joins Maddie Pellman, host of Who Runs This Park, Park Enthusiasts. NOLS, built on the vision that wilderness is the great equalizer, stands as THE leader in outdoor education—a nonprofit Maddie has been captivated by since taking her first Wilderness First Aid Course in 2022, followed by an unforgettable backcountry skiing adventure in Japan on a NOLS alumni course. You can tell in the interview, Maddie is beyond excited to be talking with Sandy. In this episode, Sandy shares his own life adventures, from biking through the Himalayas to ski patrolling in Park City, while diving deeper into the mission and vision of NOLS. He reflects on the idea that life happens at the crux of opportunity and preparation, emphasizing the power of taking leaps of faith and embracing learning. Sandy also touches on the unique role NOLS plays in training programs for both the Navy and astronauts, highlights the concept of Expedition Behavior, and discusses how national parks and public lands have shaped NOLS and his own life. This is not an episode you’ll want to miss!
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This episode spotlights Gateway Arch National Park in St. Louis, Missouri, through the eyes of its superintendent, Jeremy Sweat. Known for its iconic 630-foot monument, Gateway Arch National Park commemorates America’s westward expansion and serves as a testament to the ingenuity and perseverance of its creators. Visitors can explore the story of the Arch's construction—one that took more than three decades to secure funding for—and the complex history of the surrounding area, including the St. Louis interstate history and the historic Old Courthouse.
Jeremy shares his journey to becoming superintendent, something he uniquely set his mind on at a young age. Learn about the largest public-private partnership in national park history, fascinating tidbits about the Arch's tram system, and even the mock trials that take place in the park’s Old Courthouse. Plus, hear about the thrill of throwing out a first pitch at a Cardinals game and how security has become a top priority in managing this national treasure.
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Collyn “Doc” Nielsen, host of Hiker Trash Radio podcast, joins Maddie Pellman, host of Who Runs This Park for a unique episode. Together they highlight noteworthy moments from each of their podcasts. Maddie highlights conversations with the Grand Teton National Park Superintendent, Lake Clark National Park & Preserve Superintendent, and the Kobuk Valley National Park Superintendent and why these have been some of her favorite conversations thus far. Doc covers an exceptional expeditionist, an unbelievably thrilling finish to the world’s toughest race, and an epic cyclist. You don’t want to miss this episode.
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This episode highlights Congaree National Park in South Carolina through the perspective of its superintendent, Greg Hauburger. Known for preserving the largest tract of old-growth bottomland hardwood forest in the southeastern United States, Congaree National Park boasts a rich array of biodiversity. Visitors will find towering trees—some of the tallest in the eastern U.S.—and a variety of wildlife, including river otters, bobcats, and alligators. The Congaree River flows through the park, and a scenic boardwalk trail winds through its swamp-like environment for visitors to enjoy. Greg, who has served as superintendent since 2022, offers listeners an iconic 24-hour itinerary in Congaree, dispels myths about the park, discusses the unique floodplain ecosystem, and shares about restoration efforts to reintroduce the endangered Red-cockaded Woodpecker. He even provides insight into the fun South Carolina Pimento Cheese Passport. You can follow Who Runs This Park on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook or YouTube, can email us at [email protected] or check us out online at whorunsthispark.com. Sign up for the Who Runs This Park’s newsletter at linktr.ee/whorunsthispark. Who Runs This Park, presented by ExpertVoice, is hosted and produced by Maddie Pellman, with music by Danielle Bees.
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Danielle LaRock and Cassie Yahnian, hosts of the National Park After Dark podcast, join us on the pod today. This was a big moment for me as a longtime fan of NPAD—I was definitely having a fangirl moment! For those who don’t know, National Park After Dark is a podcast for the morbid outdoor enthusiast, sharing stories from our national parks and other public lands that showcase their darker or spookier sides. Danielle and Cassie, both former vet techs, have created a thriving community of morbid outdoor enthusiasts and have hosted countless trips with their audience through TrovaTrip (my dream!). In our conversation, we go behind the scenes of National Park After Dark, hearing about everything that goes into making the show, their wildest outdoor experiences, their most memorable or favorite Trail Tale, the books they've loved while researching episodes, how they prepare for each episode, and the why behind each of their favorite national parks. If you’re an NPAD fan, you won’t want to miss it.
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Joe Erato and Mike Van de Bogert, hosts of the Locations Unknown podcast, join us for a lively, laughter-filled conversation. Locations Unknown is a podcast that delves into unexplained and unsolved disappearances in America's wilderness, highlighting some of the eerie circumstances that often accompany these cases, such as search and rescue efforts being hampered by storms and missing individuals being found in semi-conscious states with no memory of their disappearance. In our conversation, we get a behind-the-scenes look at everything that goes into Locations Unknown, the cases that stay with Mike and Joe the most, and whether the stories they uncover have changed how they spend time outdoors. They also share some of their wildest wilderness tales—including camping overnight with armed park rangers searching for an aggressive grizzly in Glacier National Park—and even some stories that I, Maddie, "haven't told listeners yet." It’s a fun, unforgettable chat that left me grinning ear to ear long after our interview. Tune in to hear from the iconic hosts of Locations Unknown!
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This episode features Haleakalā National Park on the island of Maui, Hawaii, from the perspective of its superintendent, Natalie Gates. Haleakalā National Park is home to the dormant Haleakalā Volcano, whose peak rises to 10,023 feet. Known for its breathtaking sunrise—described by Mark Twain as "the most sublime spectacle"—and excursions into the volcano's crater, the park is both a stunning natural wonder and a deeply sacred place for Native Hawaiians.
Natalie, who has served as superintendent since 2013, offers insights into the innovative Incompatible Insect Technique (IIT) used to protect Hawaiian forest birds, her monthly 13-mile hike into the crater, and her unique path from veterinarian to National Park Service leader. She also shares her thoughts on the sacred Kīpahulu District, a window into Old Hawaii, and the unparalleled sunrise experience at Haleakalā.
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Adam Ruggiero, Editor-in-Chief and Podcast Host at GearJunkie, joins me for a riveting and wide-ranging conversation. From media trips gone wrong to how we should think about AI from a journalism standpoint, this discussion is engaging and exciting. GearJunkie is an online hub for outdoor adventure, offering expert gear reviews, the latest outdoor trends, and inspiring stories for adventurers. Adam shares his experience living and working on a coffee farm in Hawaii, makes a case for journalism school, and gives a behind-the-scenes look at how to grab an editor’s attention if you're looking to get your product tested. My favorite quote from the episode: “Don't underestimate your ability to figure out more than you think you know when you embark on [the journey of quitting your job and taking a chance].”
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Check out our BRAND NEW SEGMENT, Park Enthusiasts, with Parks Project CEO and Founder, Keith Eshelman. Parks Project is an outdoor lifestyle brand with purpose. Parks Project gives back to conservation efforts focused on restoring habitats in our parklands and activates communities of volunteers to support parks. In only 7 years, what started as a one t-shirt business, has grown to an assortment of head-to-toe apparel and home goods and more than $2.6 million in donations to over 50 park conservatories, inspiring the next generation to leave it better than we found it. Keith, himself, is passionate about habitat restoration and making conservation accessible and cool. Prior to starting Parks Project, Keith was one of TOMS earliest employees, and it was there during a volunteer day in the Santa Monica mountains that he discovered the overwhelming backlog of much-needed funding to complete projects in parks and uncovered a need to educate the next generation of advocates. This episode dives into how Keith creates product stories with a purpose, his craziest moment in a national park, how Parks Project ran the E-Commerce experience for the National Park Service’s Find Your Park Campaign and the brands he looks up to. Listen in!
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Get a sneak peek into the hidden gem that is Lassen Volcanic National Park from the superintendent herself, Roseann Worley. Lassen Volcanic National Park is sometimes referred to as "Little Yosemite." Imagine all the geothermal and natural features of Yellowstone in a more condensed and less populated space—Roseann argues Lassen Volcanic is even better ;). Lassen Volcanic is located in Northeastern California and was the 15th national park established by Congress, in 1916, the same year the National Park Service itself was founded. The park is a crossroads, featuring all four types of volcanoes and a rich biodiversity, as it lies at the intersection of the southern Cascade Range, the northern Sierra Nevada, and the Great Basin area. Listen to this episode to learn about the impact of fires on the park, the famous Benjamin Franklin (B.F.) Loomis’s photos of the 1914 and 1915 eruptions, the unique ways people recreate across the seasons in Lassen Volcanic, the role Search and Rescue teams play in the park, and the old ski lift and its archaeological remains. Roseann’s evident love for recreating in Lassen Volcanic shines through in our conversation, and you’ll be inspired to discover this hidden gem for yourself after listening to the episode.
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"Sucking Wind" is a term coined by Crater Lake park rangers to describe the moment when someone walks up to the rim of the caldera for the first time and takes a deep breath, overwhelmed by the surreal scene. Today, we have the privilege of interviewing Superintendent Craig Ackerman, the caretaker of this inspirational and sacred place, Crater Lake National Park. Crater Lake National Park is located in Southern Oregon, and the lake itself is the deepest in the U.S. Known as the “Mirror of Heaven”, the lake’s deep blue color comes from its purity and clarity. In this episode, you'll learn about the historic journey of how Crater Lake became a National Park, thanks to the heroic and persistent efforts of a single person. You'll learn about story of the "Old Man of the Lake," a 30-foot log that floats vertically around the lake. And, you'll learn about Crater Lake's sister parks in Slovenia and China, the tale of a car in neutral tumbling 1,000 feet into the lake, and a unique biking event called Ride the Rim. After listening, Crater Lake will quickly jump to the top of your bucket list.
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Rhonda Loh, a local girl from Hawaiʻi, has been working and volunteering at Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park for over three decades. She has been the superintendent since 2020, with her first day on the job coinciding with an eruption—quite the greeting and way to jump into the role. In this episode, we get firsthand insight into how volcanic activity is monitored and evaluated by the US Geological Survey (USGS) and how they collaborate with the park. We also get a glimpse into how the park is restoring native rainforests and studying fire ecology. Rhonda’s love for the park is evident as she reminisces about camping under the stars. Her knowledge of the park is extensive, as she holds a Master's in Chemistry and a PhD in Plant Ecology. Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park is located on the Big Island of Hawaiʻi, rising from sea level to an elevation of over 13,000 ft. It encompasses two of the world’s most active volcanoes, Kīlauea and Mauna Loa, includes seven ecological zones, and is home to 54 threatened and endangered species. The park is famous for its recent and historic lava flows, creating an ever-changing landscape. What a unique and magnificent park we got to learn about in this episode from a dedicated and caring superintendent!
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Also referred to as the Galapagos of North America, Channel Islands is located 60 miles offshore from Santa Barbara, California and is made up of five islands. The stories Ethan McKinley, Channel Islands National Park Superintendent, shares are jaw dropping at the least -- from capturing golden eagles using helicopters and essentially pillowcases, to implementing a New Zealand designed biosecurity station, and to needing any ranger on San Miguel Island to be trained in unexploded ordnances. Ethan McKinley has been superintendent of Channel Islands National Park since 2019 and is one of the park service’s youngest superintendents - go Ethan! I promise you'll be itching for a trip out to the islands soon - it truly is a miracle we have a park with such internationally significant cultural resources and human history, with such pristine and wild wilderness and ecosystems and a wide array of recreation possibilities just off the coast of Los Angeles. As Ethan says, "I feel so fortunate that we're able to provide access to this quality of a national park this close to so many people."
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Arches and Canyonlands National Parks are located in Eastern Utah and are both famous on their own accord. Arches is home to the Delicate Arch, which has become a famous symbol of Utah (it is on their license plate) and is one of the most recognized natural formations in the United States. Canyonlands is a much larger park with many opportunities for outdoor adventure through four wheel driving, challenging backpacking, etc. Today’s episode dives into the Lena Pace's (Arches & Canyonlands superintendent) perspective on the park as she ramps up to being superintendent (she has been superintendent since early April 2024). We are lucky to get unique and never before heard insight into her transition, into the partnerships she is maintaining and growing, the trails she is exploring and the Canyonlands districts she is learning about. We also hear about her experience growing up in rural Alaska and her 20+ years of experience as a Law Enforcement ranger. There is a lot of laughing in this episode, not one you want to miss.
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Cuyahoga Valley National Park, located in northeastern Ohio is a breathtaking expanse of natural beauty, rich history, and vibrant wildlife and is unique in its proximity and relationships with surrounding communities/municipalities and its drastic transformation from a place where the river historically caught on fire to a river rich in ecology and opportunities for humans to recreate. Lisa has been superintendent at Cuyahoga Valley since 2021 but has been working at Cuyahoga Valley for almost 25 years, previously serving in a variety of leadership positions and working as a wildlife biologist and her passion for this park is evident in our conversation. Learn about the plans Cuyahoga Valley has for the future, the ways challenges with the scenic railroad were mitigated and resolved and, in the words of the superintendent herself, learn about “the sense of awe [you can] get from a place that just seems ordinary”. Listen for yourself, “because I think you'll be surprised”.
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