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Dr. Claudine Perlet (LinkedIn, webpage) stepped out from her top tier corporate job for a large insurance company in 2017 and began exploring alternatives. She landed on Regenerative Economics as her frame for the work she is doing now. This conversation speaks of the regenerative business transformation and we address, head on, some of the things that will no longer be working as we move deeper into ecosystems collapse. We speak of what it takes to afford to contribute to the transition, why community and conviviality is so important and why it, sooner than we might hope, will be important to remember that you cannot eat money. Enjoy!
Additional resources from the show:
Paradigm Changer Program - https://claudineperlet.com/program/
System Change Investing - https://www.systemchangeinvesting.com/
30 Min Zoom Meeting - https://calendly.com/businessreinvented/30-minutes-meeting
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Renee Lertzman (LinkedIn, webpage) climate psychologist that's worked for more than 3 decades with large corporations and instituations (google included) dropped in for a deep conversations on the conditions conducive to change. We spoke of the importance of questions, how agency is one of the most important aspects of our humanity and how robbing those we try to change of it is counter productive. Renee introduces her framework on cheerleading, educating or 'righting' your way vs the potentially more conducive guiding stance. This is a dive into the world of change making through artful questioning. Also: Project Insideout. Enjoy!
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John Mack (LinkedIn) author, speaker, photographer and founder of the non-profit Life Calling, focused on preserving our humanity in a digital age. We get into the weeds of what technology is doing to us at the moment, and why exactly it is so pervasive. We also speak of what it has the potential to do for us. We speak of the meta-crisis and how it is an offer for us to really reimagine the world. John also speaks of his ROH - return on human, we speak of human vs humane tech, touch upon why no-one seems to question the question: what do I need to do to preserve my humanity in this digital age? This conversation goes deep. Enjoy!
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Nessie Reid is the director of the Global Diversity Foundation, (linktr.ee) the creator of the Miking Parlour lives with her husband on an organic farm in Wales. We deep dive into food and why food sovereignty and food security are such fundamental topics. Why it is that not more of us care about food. We speak of convenience and price as two important parameters to understand, we speak of environmental justice, the patchwork of belonging, grief work, how to deal with fire without burning out and the importance of humor. Enjoy!
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Anna Gyllenklev (LinkedIn) founder of Untra Studio visited the podcast. We spoke about what our environments do to us, we spoke about health and the relational nature of our world. What are the dependencies that structure our thinking? What do we have to do to think outside our brain? What are you cultivating? What do we nurture? What does it do to us when we attend to things that are not living and how can we redesign our lives? Enjoy!
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Servane Mouazan (LinkedIn, webpage) visited the podcast and we spoke of things like collective intelligence, what happens when we invite the organisation as the living entity and inquire into it into the room, we spoke of trust and how capital is not just financial capital but rather many things. We spoke of change, and resistance to change, the invitation to listen deeply to our assumptions. How assumptions drive behavior, the crucial importance of imagination for this moment and how we have an obligation to pay attention. Enjoy this circular or perhaps spiral conversation.
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Thekla Teunis (LinkedIn) is the founder of Grounded aiming to bring agriculture back into balance. Thekla shares her journey from Shell and McKinsey to her current work of transforming agriculture bottom up from the core. We speak of being with the consequences of what one is doing, what it takes to see and what it takes to take risk. The importance of having a team willing to go the distance and having the courage to act to right something that is fundamentally wrong. And how that, even though it is sometimes hard, is what affords a meaningful existence.
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Vicki Saunders (LI) founder of Coralus and I spoke of the new ways of building business, systems transformation, the power of generosity and kindness. What happens when you get 7000 women together and let the community direct investments? What happens when you realise just how expensive control is and how cheap trust is? What are the metaphors that can set us free? We speak of transformation as a step by step approach and our power, agency and responsibility to build a world that works for us. Listen to this one! Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul
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Sam Hinds (website, substack) therapist, PhD and lecturer at California Center for Integral Studies, has been on before EP173. We dive into the depths of what some call collective precensing. We speak of faith and trust. We speak of the impatience we feel, the importance of slowing down, of staying with it. We speak of responsibility, relevance, circular time and much else. The practices Sam wrote his dissertation on as practices to reconnect with life, inviting the many to agency and as a practice of attuning to vitality, within and around us. If you are curious about collective practice in some form. This is a must listen. Other resources we mention: Episode with Ria Baeck, Debold & Steininger, Sam's other Podcast with Rosa Lewis. Host Amit Paul.
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Giles Hutchins (webpage) has been on the podcast before (EP107). Recently released his 6th book Nature Works which we center this conversation around. We deepdive into the meaning of the quote: "being intimate with the immanent and transparent with the transcendent". Giles also positions us nicely in where our society is currently, we speak of the potential of living intimately with our everyday life. We also bring in terms like dinergy, dissect belonging, explore hesitation and uncover stillness. And you'll get to hear the one tip, the core skill of regenerative leadership if you lean in to the episode! Enjoy!
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Samantha Sweetwater is a coach, author, holistic practitioner (webpage, LinkedIn, Instagram). We spoke of what is to have lived with the awareness of existential risk for 50 years. Which places it may take you. We speak of what it means to live in these times we live in and the possibilities it offers us. We speak of embodiment, enlifenment, aesthetics, sensemaking, attention, animism, suspension of disbelief. We speak of wisdom. And what we can do now to build capacity. Towards the end there is a radical invitation. What if, we are the ones that in the future will be known as "we were the ones who came home"? Enjoy. Host: Amit Paul
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Vanessa Andreotti author of Hospicing Modernity, dean of the faculty of education at University of Victoria and member of the DCF collective came and spoke about what it takes to begin making space for something that isn't modernity. We speak of the importance of humor and humility, staying open to both the good and the sh*t, coming into contact with what modernity is actually doing to us and what it means to be tethered. What happens when there is no away? We speak of form and motion. We speak why fighting or fixing are traps. We speak of the fact that colonialism, the world most of live in, feels good. This is a human, humorous wonderful conversation for those serious about being in service to the different world may also inhabit. Link to facing human wrongs course. Host: Amit Paul
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This episode is an intermezzo. It is an audio version of Amit Pauls and Eric Lichtmans article in the Unpsychology Magazine 10: Edges: To move in spaces where worlds shift. Enjoy!
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Ida Faldbakken (LinkedIn), CEO of KatapultX and co-founder of Katapult Future Fest, and I had a deep inquiry into what it is to gather, what it's for and what it means to not waste peoples time. We also spoke about what it takes to break our habits, like what if the people on stage are there to propagate the conversation off stage, what if these contexts do not have to scale in themselves and can still continue to scale their impact in the world, what does it mean to work at the peak of ones capacity - what does it mean to stop when we're not at capacity? This is a rich conversation about our current challenges seen through the lens of gatherings. Enjoy!
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Manish Jain, founder of Swaraj University and Ecoversities Alliance is this weeks guest. We spoke of alternatives to education, why education as we think of it today may be one of the root causes of the metacrisis rather than a solution for it and we spoke of reclaiming learning and knowledge. The treachery of language like 'first generation learners' and types of knowledge - spelling goat vs herding them and which is more knowledgeable for instance. We also speak of how come,outside of our culture, not everything has a price. This is a rich and deep conversation that will have you rethinking everything you knew about education.
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Grace Rachmany of the Voices of humanty, Priceless DAO, DAO leadership and many more projects is this weeks guest. We spoke of democracy and the state of it, we spoke of decision making, what happens to a society that has the monetary system as it's primary social structure. We speak of value, commons, technology and responsibility. This conversation is a deep and thoughtful one that points to the many possibilities of what reshaping our societies entails. Enjoy!
Link to extended shownotes (Substack)
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Tanuja Prasad (LinkedIn) and I had a conversation about her work in regenerative investments. We talked about the spirit of investments, the driving force behind investment up until this point, how to transcend the extractive paradigm and shift away from the control and force as the governing principles towards something more generative. Tanuja and I spoke of the Systems view of life and how it’s influenced our work and thinking. This is a conversation that is profound and subtle. It works with a new set of metaphors and concepts with the ambition to reinvent the fundamentals of investing for a regenerative paradigm. Enjoy!
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Eva Karlsson (LinkedIn), CEO of Houdini Sportswear visited the podcast. We got to talk about solutions that are not solutions, the planetary boundaries in business, measurement, common sense, why joy at work is a radical thing to focus on. We also spoke of the benefit of having a strict set of design boundaries to work with, spoler: it spurs creativity. We also spoke about responsibility in business and working in synergy with the living planet. Host: Amit Paul
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Jeremy D Johnson visited the podcast a second time after 2 years (website). This was a deep and curious conversation about change all the way down. We spoke of emergence happening in the middle, the idea of slowing down, the importance of hesitation, temporics of attention, the awakening of the relational (integrated) worldview in younger generations. We also spoke of this notion of the potential for creative responses in the fisures, in those moments when our habits no longer meets the worlds we live in. Jeremy is a master with words and this is a beautiful weaving that provided me with lots of insight. Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul
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Jenny Grettve founder of the Economic Institue For Feminine Futures, author of the upcoming book Mothering economy came by the podcast. We spoke of why, with all our innovative capacity, it is so difficult to create a caring and kind economy? This is a conversation on many levels that zooms in and out of the economic, educational and systemic work Jenny is involved with. We also speak of how to invest in love, what it takes to come into alignment with ones values and what it would take for us to just stop. Other ways to find out more of Jennys work: website, WhenWhen Agency Enjoy! Host: Amit Paul.
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