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Maik Kindermann, the inventor of the methane inhibitor 3-NOP or Bovaer®. Earlier this week it was announced that Boaver has been approved for use by the FDA adding the United States to the other 59 countries where its available. Following a directive in 2008 from Feike Sifbesma, the former Chairman and CEO of dsm-firmenich Maik began working on a product to inhibit enteric methane. 16 years later Maik and his team have completed trials 119 and published 80 peer reviewed papers with another 31 in the pipeline. I recently caught up with Maik to hear about his journey developing Boaver and how the conversation on enteric methane has changed over that time.
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The security communities around the world including European, UK, US, and Australia have all recognized climate change as a National Security threat with climate change not being necessarily a direct cause of conflict but compounding the risks of conflict. The impact of climate change on food and water security is a key component of this increased threat.
Neil Morisetti leads efforts to develop society's and policy makers understanding of the security implications of a changing climate, including the impact on the key natural resources of food, water and land at University College London and Chatham House. His work focuses on the relationship between these emerging challenges and more traditional threats to national security. Neil has previously served as the UK Government Climate and Energy Security Envoy, the Foreign Secretary’s Special Representative for Climate Change and he is a retired Rear Admiral in the Royal Navy.
The complex problem with climate change is it does not impact everyone at the same rate. Currently conflict and climate change are primarily correlated in a belt tuning just north and south of the equator, countries well away from Europe, North America, and Australia.
Neil is also an International Fellow of the Australian Security Leaders Climate Group who just released Too Hot To Handle report that highlights the reality of Australia’s climate–security failure.
I recently caught up with Neil and you can listen to our conversation here:
This conversation follows on from these previous episodes on the links between conflict and climate change.
Agriculture is not just about food security, it’s about national and regional security with Air Vice Marshal (retired) John Blackburn, former Deputy Chief of the Royal Australian Air ForceConflict, climate change, and food insecurity with David Tuck International Committee of the Red Cross
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There are currently 350 million people globally living with extreme hunger, with a plus 2°C rise in global temperatures this is forecast to rise to 539 million people, and with a plus 4°C temperature rise it is predicted that 2.1 billion people worldwide will be living with extreme hunger. Failing to adequately address this rise in extreme hunger will be a growing national security and global security issue as food insecurity is linked to increased migration and clonflict.
Ismahane Elouafi is the Executive Managing Director of CGIAR here she is building on her experience leading agrifood research and advocacy to deal with some the world’s most pressing environmental and human challenges. Her work focuses on the urgent challenge of providing nutritious food for all by ensuring that small-scale farmers across the global South have access to the science and technologies they need to adapt to a growing number of challenges, including climate change.
In low income countries most recent agricultural production gains have come from clearing more land, there have been no improvements in efficiency. This provides a huge opportunity to provide existing technology so the 500 hundred millions small holder farmers can increase productivity. Ethiopia has successfully achieved significant increases in productivity over recent years through the adoption of technology.
I recently caught up with Ismahane to discuss how our food systems are broken and whether we have realistic expectations of farmers across the world. The big question that arose is whether it is realistic to expect farmers to fix the issues of agriculture's impact on climate, biodiversity, the environment, and resource use, while addressing the growing issues of malnutrition and producing affordable food, and contributing to local and global economies.
You can listen to our conversation here.
Additional Links:
Periodic Table of Food Ingredients: https://foodperiodictable.org/
Virginia Tech Report: https://globalagriculturalproductivity.org/2023-gap-report/
IFPRI: https://www.ifpri.org/
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This episode of Ash Cloud is brought to you in partnership with CSIRO.
Proteins play many critical roles in our bodies, and in the plants, animals, fungi and microbes that are our source of food and nutrition. Disease, brain function, appetite, movement, allergies, and thousands of other metabolic process all require proteins. This is in addition to the need for protein to build and maintain muscle. Growing global populations are dramatically increasing protein demand and this demand is putting ever greater pressure on our climate and environment. Meeting this demand sustainably requires new thinking on how we produce and consume protein.
Michelle Colgrave is the Deputy Director (Impact) at CSIRO Agriculture and Food where she uses her scientific background in the study of proteins across agriculture and food science to benefit human health and food sustainability. Together with her CSIRO team and partner organizations she is working to deliver more sustainable, productive, and resilient agricultural and food systems.
Balancing the roles of plant protein, animal protein, and novel non meat proteins is an opportunity to enhance the amount of protein we can produce sustainably. Michelle and her team prefer the term complimentary protein to describe the suite of new and emerging protein technologies including fermentation, algae, fungi, insect, and cell cultures that can improve productivity, nutrient composition, bioavailability, and the flavour of novels foods.
I recently caught up with Michelle to discuss opportunities to improve the sustainability of protein production, the important research her team is doing to alleviate the negative affects that allergy causing anti-nutritional proteins have on the lives of thousand of people globally, opportunities to enhance hybrid foods by incorporating legumes, and the work she is doing with New Mexico University to improve reproductive efficiency in livestock.
You can listen to our conversation here.
Additional information on the work of CSIRO Agriculture and Food that we discussed in this episode can be found at these links:https://www.csiro.au/en/news/all/articles/2022/january/whats-brewing-precision-fermentation
https://www.csiro.au/en/news/all/articles/2022/november/proteins-of-the-future-using-precision-fermentation-to-develop-new-ingredients
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Climate change is a global challenge, but interventions can only be implemented locally. Understanding the local cultures, economies, politics, language, and production systems is critical for any intervention to make an impact. Across the developing world the greatest opportunity to limit livestock methane emissions and improve food security is through improved animal nutrition and livestock genetics. In the developed world the opportunity lies in absolute methane emission reductions with genetics, the use of feed additives, and increasingly through a much improved understanding of the microbiome having the greatest potential to make significant impact.
Ermias Kebreab from UC Davis has been leading efforts to improve sustainability and reduce the climate impact of agriculture across the developed and developing worlds.
Across the Global South he has been working with farmers to develop digital tools and feed libraries in local languages to enable farmers to improve their productivity, efficiency of production, and reduce methane emissions. He started working in Vietnam alongside the State Department 10 years ago. Through the support of the Global Methane Hub these programs have now been extended to include Thailand, Philippines, India, Indonesia, Ethiopia, and a number of West African countries coordinated in Cameroon.
To achieve the absolute reduction in emissions needed across the Global North Ermias is working with UC Berkeley using CRISPR and meta genomics to identify microbes and the genes that are responsible for methanogenesis. A critical component of this is also understanding what happens to the hydrogen because if you can redirect the hydrogen away from methane you can improve productivity and feed efficiency at the same time as reducing emissions. This win win is a huge advantage in achieving wide spread farmer adoption and is equally applicable to lower income countries and wealthy countries.
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Reducing methane emissions is the greatest opportunity to limit warming in the short term. With roughly 30% of current temperature increases are caused by methane, global food systems being responsible for 60% of methane emissions as a continuum from production to waste, and 80% of recent emissions have come from non-OECD countries the methane challenge intimately linked to the International development challenge.
To address this solution that are fit for purpose need to be developed. With feed additive solutions being only applicable to 2% of global production systems other mechanisms to reduce methane are needed that do not compromise livelihoods and food security.
Marcelo Mena is Chief Executive Office at the Global Methane Hub and the former Environment Minister for Chile from 2014 to 2018. Together with his team, the Global Methane Hub is bringing together philanthropic funding from the likes of Bezos Earth Fund and the Gates Foundation alongside government and private sector funds to create collaborative solutions across the Global South and the Global North.
I recently caught up with Marcelo to discuss the importance of addressing methane emissions globally, the need for solutions that align with the sources of those emissions and the collaborative partnerships and funding mechanisms that must be developed to have a real impact.
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Recent farmer protests across Europe have highlighted the political battleground around sustainable agriculture. The absence of effective policies and support for a just transition to Net Zero is positioning farmers as political pawns who are being exploitation by people outside the farming community pushing their own agendas.
Farmers are increasingly being squeezed between decreasing margins, increasing costs, increasing regulations, less market power. At the same time the growing politicisation of the rural urban divide is not focused on actually addressing farmer livelihoods but is being fuelled to drive the political agendas of people outside the agricultural community. At the same time the increasing fiscal demands of extreme weather events and geopolitical instability are in direct competition with funding for climate mitigation strategies.
Tim Benton is Research Director for the Environment, and society at Chatham House where he studies food security and food systems and how to increase their resilience to climate change, reduce their environmental footprints and improve public health through nutrition. In his recent paper on the European farmer protests he highlighted the need for a just transition as farmers are being squeezed between increasing regulatory framework and prices they are receiving for their produce. I recently caught up with Tim to discuss the politics around these global farmer protests, the costs involved in managing the impacts of climate change on our economies compared, and the lack of political will to take on the necessary investment.
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The climate impact of animal agriculture is only one of the aspects that needs to be addressed for sustainable productions systems. The importance and urgency to mitigate methane emissions must be integrated with the social and economic aspects of livestock production and the other environmental issues such as nutrient management and biodiversity.
The current state of our food systems are the result of decades and even centuries of the choices people have made which will take time to change. When it comes to global warming methane is the emergency brake that can limit temperature rises in the short term. Methane from livestock is one of the global methane sources and a key focus of Sara Place’s work.
Over the last 12 months her team has collected and analysed samples from over 900 animals. This research showed over 30% variation in emissions from similar animals under similar conditions, the cause of which is yet to be understood. This huge variation is an opportunity to use selecting breeding to permanently lower livestock emission. However, to achieve this there will need to be a vast increase in the numbers of animals monitored.
Sara Place is an expert in livestock systems sustainability for AgNext at Colorado State University where she brings where she combines her methane mitigation work with her experience in all aspects of livestock sustainability across academia, industry associations, and private industry. I recently caught up with Sara to discuss his work. You can listen to the conversation here.
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Growing anthropocentrism is one of the underlying root causes of our ecological crisis. In recent decades humans have become increasingly disconnected from our food. While for thousands of years obtaining food and water was the top priority of most human societies. Today, this is no longer the case and in today's society food is increasing becoming an a political issue, especially for meat and animal products.
I recently caught up with Dr Sparsha Saha from Harvard University to discuss research focuses on how voters respond to issues around meat, animal rights, and the links between animal agriculture, food accessibility, and climate change. Sparsha is the only empirical political scientist studying meat politics. You can listen to the conversation here. -
Less than 5% of climate finance is focused on addressing methane, and less than 2% of that finance is for the livestock sector. This is despite the fact that 155 countries agreed that rapidly reducing methane emissions from energy, agriculture, and waste is the single most effective strategy to keep the goal of limiting warming to 1.5˚C.
The EPA estimates that 37% of methane emissions are from agriculture, with livestock contributing 32% of those emissions. Low and middle income countries contribute over 70% of global livestock methane emissions, yet the climate is agnostic about the source of GHG emissions, so the lack of investment and support addressing methane emissions across the Global South is an ever increasing strategic risk.
Aimable Uwizeye is a Livestock Policy Officer for the Food and Agriculture organization of the United Nations where he leads programs aiming at improving the sustainability of global livestock systems with a particular emphasis on innovation and climate. Aimable recently coordinated the production of the Methane emissions in livestock and rice systems report which highlighted the sources of methane emissions, opportunities to mitigate emissions, and the need to address methane mitigation in low and middle income counties. I recently caught up with Aimable to discuss his work. You can listen to the conversation here. -
Of the 25 countries that are least able to adapt to the impacts of climate change about 14 of those countries or 56% are currently affected by armed conflict.
The intersection of conflict and food insecurity is an area of series concern in many of the places where the International Committee of the Red Cross works. The 2023 global report of food crises reported that around 250 million people globally were food insecure and in need of urgent food assistance. This is the highest level in the seven year history of the report. There are currently 100 armed conflicts globally involving around 60 states and 100 or more non state groups. The number of armed conflicts has increased over recent decades. In 2022, 120 million people were pushed into food insecurity by conflict.
Frequently it is the most vulnerable, including women headed households, that suffer the most from conflict and climate related food insecurity. This is not helped by the continuing weaponization of food, such as the restrictions of Black Sea grain export during the ongoing Russia-Ukraine war and the sieges initiated by ISIS the recent Syria conflict.
David Tuck is the Head of Mission, Australia, for the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC). David has spent the last twenty years working as a legal advisor at the International Red Cross across Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. During this time, he has witnessed the impacts of conflict on civilian populations including how the combination of conflict, climate change, and food insecurity have a multiplying effect that further weakens the resilience of effected societies. I recently caught up with David to discuss his work. You can listen to the conversation here.
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Currently over 50% of the world’s population is undernourished. There is generally not a shortage of food calories but a shortage of nutrients. This issue exists in rich countries, middle income countries, and poor countries. The traditional solution that has provided these nutrients to human populations for thousands of years is animals, both farmed livestock and hunted wild species.
In recent decades the vast increase in the numbers of farmed livestock and how they are produced has created severe environmental burdens which are unsustainable. The larger the concentration of these systems the higher is the risk of environmental hazards. However, with good management these risks can be mitigated.
I recently caught up with Dr. Peer Ederer to discuss the complex role livestock systems have in our food systems, the positive and negative environmental and social burdens of these systems, and the vital role they provide nutritionally. In our conversation Dr. Ederer the role of small holder family farms in our food systems and the need for empathy when developing innovations and solutions to these global challenges. -
Everyday choices are made about the food we eat by all 8 billion people on the planet. These choices impact our health and the health of the environment and climate. But what drives us to make the decisions we do and what would need to be done to change our decision making to improve both our health and reduce the environmental impact of food production.
I recently caught up with Prof. Barbara Mullan from Curtin University to discuss these issues. Most of us know that many of the things we eat will likely have detrimental effects on our health, yet despite this knowledge we continue our poor diets and the incidence of metabolic disease continues to increase. Even the broad evidence that metabolic disease increased our susceptibility to severe Covid did little to change behaviour. In our conversation Prof. Mullan explores the social, cultural, educational, and economic drivers behind this decision making and also the nuances of human behaviour. -
Creating a win win for farmers/ranchers and the environment would be game changing across the whole livestock climate space. The key is to understand the kinetics of methane production by the rumen microbiome and identify opportunities to capture that energy within the animal for production. This approach mitigates methane emissions and decreases feed costs. Plus, creating this win win overcomes the not insignificant implementations/uptake challenge.
Methane is the end point of a whole series of complex microbial metabolism in the rumen of cattle and sheep. Most current research is simply trying to prevent this last step where Hydrogen in converted to methane. Professor Rod Mackie, a gut microbial ecologist from the University of Illinois is leading an international research team pursuing a very different approach to mitigating livestock methane.
The team is looking at the biomolecular mechanisms that lead to these precursors of methane which they hope will open up broader opportunities for intervention and productivity gains. The team has recently been awarded $2.5 million grant from the Foundation for Food and Agricultural Research through their Greener Cattle Initiative.The team has six hubs spread across the USA, New Zealand, Canada, Europe, Israel, and Australia. Further conversations with key researchers from the team can be found below:
Sharon Huws -Hydrogen warfare in the rumen - the source of livestock methane emissions, Queens University, BelfastItzik Mizrahi - Microbial good guys and bad guys, and their duplicitous nature, Ben Gurion University of the Negev Athol Klieve - Learning from nature how to eliminate livestock methane emissions, University of QueenslandMatthias Hess - Ruminant Methane Production, UC DavisThe two key papers published in conjunction with AgResearch NZ are:
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Management is the greatest limitation to reducing the environmental impact of livestock systems. Farming is managing an ecosystem. When we work with nature to manage that ecosystem, then nature works with us to improve the water cycle, improve the nutrient cycle, and to sequester more carbon in the soil. The challenge is, how do we improve every individual farmer understanding of their landscapes, the ecology, and businesses so they are managing their properties in an optimal manner.
Currently the management of only 5% of Australian livestock producers is at an optimal level. The greatest barrier to improving management is education. Terry estimates that an investment of $50-100 million over 5-10 years could increase the percentage of farmers managing their land regeneratively from 5% to 30%.
Terry McCosker has been pioneering regenerative agriculture for over 50 years. His work has focused on bridging the gap between the contesting paradigms of traditional agriculture and regenerative agriculture to help to ensure the long-term sustainability of Australian agriculture and the nations’ farming families. Terry founded RCS to provide education and build capacity across the industry. Terry founded Carbonlink to make carbon farming more accessible to producers.
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In East Africa, what we are now calling regenerative agriculture is basically kitchen gardening for food security, without the reliance on inputs, which is the traditional method of growing food. How do we evaluate the sustainability of production systems in the Global South and how do these compare to those in the Global North?
Comparisons are challenging. In the Global South most animals are multifunctional providing food, income, ecosystem services, finance, services, and cultural status. Evaluating the environmental footprint of livestock is largely through tools developed by the Global North which do not account for the other functions these animals provide.
The millions of small holder farmers across East Africa typically have two or three cows plus another two or three species of livestock such as goats, sheep, chickens, and pigs. They are typically on two or three acres and for most farmers the milk is used for the family first with surplus going to the market. All animal waste products is recycled back into the soils.
Today my guests, Su Kahumbu, Bernard Kimoro, and Claudia Arndt, who are working together to improve food security and sustainability across the millions of small holder farms and the traditional pastoral systems across East Africa. Su Kahumbu is a Kenyan Farmer and entrepreneur who works with small holder farmers to improve food security, nutritional security, and environmental sustainability. Her focus is developing mobile phone based education tools. Bernard Kimoro leads climate change and livestock sustainability for the Kenyan Ministry of Agriculture and livestock. He is especially focused on working across the traditional pastoral systems. Claudia Arndt leads leads the Mazingira Centre where her team are investigating the environmental impact of livestock with focus on GHG emissions. The Mazingira Centre is part of the sustainably livestock program for the International Livestock Research Institute in Nairobi. Her research focuses on optimizing nutrient utilization efficient to reduce the environmental impact of animal agriculture, including the climate impact of methane emissions. -
Microbes communicate, they make decisions, they collaborate, and they fight. Sometimes they are good guys and other times they are bad guys. Understanding the importance of individual species withing the ecosystem and how species interact is critical for navigating our food sustainability challenges.
The good news is that animals with higher feed efficiency produce less methane. However, our understanding of the ecological forces driving that double benefit is limited and the natural variation is huge with a five fold difference in methane emissions from animals in the same herd.
Itzik Mizrahi is a microbial ecologist studying the ecological and evolutionary forces that shape microbial communities in nature and specifically, in gut environments. His work investigating the ecology of rumen microbiome focuses on understand the cooperative and antagonistic interactions between species with the aim of improving food security and minimizing the environmental impacts of livestock production.
Microbes are everywhere and the Mizrahi Lab studies what makes them live together.
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Humans are the cause of climate change. Climate change is also biodiversity loss, desertification, mega fires and climate change that are all feeding off each other and spiralling out of control.
The way humans manage fossil fuels, livestock, and the the environment is what is leading to the continual degradation of the natural world.
In the 1960's Allan initiated an elephant culling program in an effort to protect native habitats in Rhodesia (Zimbabwe today) from over grazing. The results were devastating. Not only were thousands of elephants killed, but the land degradation became worse. This led Allan to the conclusion that grazing animals were a critical component of all grassland systems. In fact, there is nothing available in the world that can reverse desertification other than livestock. In 1983, Allan and 2000 scientists from across the world identified that universal reductionist management was the key driver of climate change and developed the holistic framework. In 2009 Allan founded the Savory Institute to facilitate regeneration of the world's grasslands and the livelihoods of their inhabitants through holistic management.
Reductionist management ignores the complexity of our societies, economies, and nature and focuses primarily on addressing symptoms rather than the root cause. Reductionist management of our resources has led over thousands of years to the ever increasing degradation of the natural life support systems we all rely on for our survival. According to Allan government policies that cut fossil fuel use and livestock numbers will do little to address climate change if they are developed holistically.
The reason governments as so critical to our ability to combat climate change is that governments are the only institutions that can manage at scale. To address the unintended environmental consequences of our current managements of all natural resources policies need to be implemented at the scale required to achieve real impact.
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The question of what is a good microbiome all depends on the perspective you are asking. The answer differs if your lens from the perspective of the animal, humans, the microbes, or the climate. The relationships are complex. Microbes produce vital energy and nutrients for the animal. They allow our grazing animals to transform fibrous herbs, shrubs, and grasses into nutrient dense food. They recycle plant carbon and nutrients back into the soils.
Since the first ruminants evolved around 50 million years ago the microbiome and these animals have coevolved together. Our understanding of this process is still very limited but the more we learn the more we realize the importance of this relationship to our society and the natural world. Today there are almost 200 living species of ruminants, nine of which have been domesticated over the last 10,000 years.
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Climate policy has been weaponised in Australia over recent decades. The situation in other countries is frequently not dissimilar. The lack of real action on climate change resulted in over one third of Australian voters rejecting the major parties in preference of environmentally progressive ‘Teal’ independents at the 2022 federal election. Zoe Daniel is one of seven Teal Independent who are now working to drive positive and constructive climate policy changes across the Australian Federal Parliament.
The political will to generate and implement policies that effectively address climate change, including the economic mechanisms required for these policies to succeed, is frequently highlighted as a critical gap that needs to be overcome. Entrenched two party systems, each pandering to their base, make it easy for disruptive climate policies to remain off the agenda. Impact on climate change will remain limited without broad government leadership and policies despite the efforts of the NGO community, civil society, entrepreneurs, and the private sector.
So how does a new MP make an impact in one the rougher federal parliaments globally?
“If you come in, particularly as a new MP and expect to create massive systems change overnight, you’re going to be disappointed. So you have to convince yourself that you can make a difference by doing the kind of nudging that myself and the other independents have been doing.”
By using this approach Zoe managed to negotiate that the 43% emission reduction stipulated in the recent Climate Change Act was a floor rather than a ceiling. Her real impact came from being in the same room and having the opportunity to negotiate directly with the Climate Change Minister.
Zoe has taken a pragmatic and broad approach that prioritises creating the social license for government to implement change and bringing the community along. She expects massive economic and social changes that people will need to adjust to a compressed period and for this to be successful broad community engagement and transparency are critical. This includes managing the expectation of her constituents who are pushing from much more rapid change and ensuring there is just transition for communities who have traditionally relied on the sunset industries.
The continuing weaponization of energy, water, and food globally is a big concern. It becomes very challenging when these become bargain chips to undermine the existing global order. Drawing on her 15 years reporting from Africa, Asia, and North America she understands the cascading effects of climate induced food insecurity, water insecurity and natural disasters on political stability and displacement. Zoe also highlights the increasingly delicate balance required to keep vital communications channels open with our geopolitical rivals and adversaries.
As a foreign correspondent she frequently witnessed the suffering and destruction climate change has on the most vulnerable societies and natural ecosystems. Her time as a journalist also exposed her to the frequently divisive nature of the media, where creating conflict in the name of good story is often favoured over promoting constructive conversations.
I recently caught up with Zoe to hear more about her work, you can listen to a short summary followed by our full conversation here. - Montre plus
