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  • In this episode of Bad Diaries Podcast, Tracy talks with award winning writer, reviewer, former literary festival director and ex-bass player Rachael King about reading journals, her love of a good boot, and why she’s no longer writing novels for adults.

    Rachael’s latest novel, The Grimmelings – “folk horror! for kids!” – is proper scary. And it’s a finalist in the New Zealand Children’s Book Awards, for the Esther Glen Award for Junior Fiction. In this episode of the podcast, we wonder whether writing for younger readers is having a bit of a buzzy moment – in Aotearoa New Zealand, at least – and we talk about why writing books for children is more important to Rachael than ever.

    We turn to diaries, and look at the unique perspective Rachael brings to the Bad Diaries universe. As literary director of WORD Christchurch festival, she booked the first Bad Diaries Salon outside Australia (and our first festival collab); she’s been a Bad Diaries Salon reader; and she’s been in the audience for several salons. We’re thrilled to expand her connection to Bad Diaries, by welcoming her to the podcast.

    Rachael King is a writer from Aotearoa New Zealand. She is the author of two novels for children, The Grimmelings and Red Rocks. Red Rocks won the Esther Glen Medal in 2013, and is currently being produced for television by Libertine Pictures and Sky TV.

    Her first novel for adults, The Sound of Butterflies, was published internationally and translated into eight languages, and won the award for best first novel at the 2007 Montana New Zealand Book Awards. Her second novel, Magpie Hall, was longlisted for the IMPAC Dublin Literary Award.

    Rachael was programme director of WORD Christchurch Festival for eight years until late 2021. She received a Waitangi Day Honour Award in 2020 from the New Zealand Society of Authors (PEN NZ) for her work at WORD bringing exiled Kurdish writer Behrouz Boochani to New Zealand. In 2023 she was named Best Reviewer at the Voyager New Zealand Media Awards. She lives in ƌtautahi Christchurch.

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • In our first guest interview for Season 2 of the podcast, Jenny chats with Jock Serong on a chilly Victorian night. They talk diaries, rituals, the writing life, and what Jock does with his old Blundstones.

    Jock was one of five writers who read at the second-ever Bad Diaries Salon, back in September 2017 in Melbourne, and in this interview Jenny and Jock look back at that salon. The theme was TRIPS, and Jock read from a travel journal he kept in his 20s; in this episode of the podcast, Jock reads again from his travel journal, and it’s beautiful and unmissable.

    Jock Serong is a prolific writer, multiple award winner and a thoroughly nice man. He is the founding editor of Great Ocean Quarterly – a journal of art, ideas and the sea – and a director of Melbourne’s The Wheeler Centre . He lives in Port Fairy in far western Victoria.

    Jock has six novels published and the seventh – Cherrywood – is a ‘history of things that never happened’ and will be published in September 2024.

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

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  • Double, double toil and trouble, join the two of us on the pod to make a throuple – this episode is all about THREE.

    We’ve chosen THREE as the theme of our second episode of the season not because we can’t count, but because we both have exciting bookish news for our THIRD novels.

    Tracy’s third (and as-yet unpublished) novel – which is full of triplets and other threes – has been shortlisted for the NZSA Laura Solomon Cuba Press Prize. And Jenny’s third novel will be out in the world next month – Hurdy Gurdy is available now for pre-order, and out soon wherever you get your books. Huzzah!

    So with our minds full of thirds, we talk about good things coming in threes – wishes and witches, fates and furies, three-ring circuses and there dog nights. We contrast the strength and stability of triangles – geometrically and structurally speaking – with the usually destabilising presence of a third person in a relationship. (“There were three of us in this marriage, so it was a bit crowded.”)

    We each read from our own diaries, on the theme of THREE. We wonder if we laugh less as we get older. And we finish nostalgically, reigniting old friendships, Jen riding off on a horse, Tracy on (or perhaps being) a Shetland pony.

    We’ve got fab guests lined up for you in coming episodes – so join us on the podcast each month, for more diaries (and diary-adjacent) content. Catch you next time!

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • Willkommen, bienvenue, welcome to the blank first page (for Tracy, terrifying; for Jen, not) of season 2 of Bad Diaries Podcast.

    In our first episode of the podcast for 2024, we look back at the summer that’s passed since our xmas episode – a summer of busy-ness, bereavement, and a broken bone.

    Then we make a schmear on the blank page of season 2, and leap right into it with a chat about diarymaking – whatever diarymaking means.

    Usually on the pod we focus on the content, on the words in diaries. In this episode we shift our focus to the physical artefact – whether that’s “the ultimate in wankery” of Tracy’s current fancy notebook, or something more sensible.

    We talk aesthetics and logistics, preferences and flexibility, the creative and the mundane. Jen asks whether a diary is really a place where you can be honest with yourself. And along the way we find ourselves wearing purple 80s mohair jumpers, drinking Midori and lemonade, having dalliances in smoky bars.

    Looking ahead to the rest of 2024, join us for a new episode of the podcast each month, bringing you more guests, more chats, and more diaries (and diary-adjacent) content. Good to chat! Catch you next time!

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • Pickle your beets, sniff your jars, and wrap the Christmas ham in a teatowel! We’ve reached the toe, the toenail, the heel – no, the sole of the year, and Jenny and Tracy are bringing (or at least name-checking) the A-list celebs for A Very Diary Xmas.

    In this final episode of Bad Diaries Podcast for 2023, recorded on a thundery (Wellington) and hot (Melbourne) day in December, we bemoan the tyranny of email, and celebrate staying in bed and sensible shoes.

    We look to other people’s diaries on our bookshelves (hello, Andy!), as well as mining our own diaries for the good, the bad and the ugly-crying of our diarised Christmases past.

    In not-so-Christmas-y content, we ponder the power of photos vs diaries as archives and records. Tracy brings along some diary-adjacent books she’s read lately, and Coercively Controlling Ex-Boyfriend makes yet another cameo.

    We finally six-of-the-best each other – as we have each six-of-the-bested our fabulous Bad Diaries Podcast special guests this season – and we look ahead to 2024, and Season 2 of the podcast, bringing you more guests, more chats, and more diaries (and diary-adjacent) content.

    Wishing you all A Very Diary Xmas and everything fabulous for 2024.

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • In this episode of Bad Diaries Podcast, Tracy talks with poet, essayist and zine-maker Nadine Anne Hura about diaries, the narrative arc of a life, writing and drawing, and Dirty Dancing.

    After reading at Bad Diaries Salon:RADICAL in Wellington in 2022, Nadine wrote about what it was like to prepare for and take part in the salon, in a piece titled ‘The narrative arc of your own life’. In this episode of the podcast, we use that as a jumping off point for a wide-ranging discussion of diaries and journals (keeping them, losing them, and giving them away), about writing and other ways of making art, and about responding to loss.

    Nadine Anne Hura is a writer from Aotearoa New Zealand, of Ngāti Hine and Ngāpuhi whakapapa. Her writing weaves themes of language, identity, equity and climate justice – and it’s full of memory, and of family.

    In 2023 Nadine published Narrating the Seasons of Grief, a chapbook adapted from her essay of the same title, about living in the aftermath of the death of her brother, Darren. A short documentary written and narrated by Nadine, ARO WAIRUA: Navigating the Seasons of Grief, was adapted from the essay (available on Māori TV).

    At the 2023 Pikihuia Awards (biennial Māori writing awards), Nadine won the Non-fiction in English category for her essay ‘A Dangerous Country’, and her story ‘Affidavit in the Family Court: Ranginui vs Papatƫānuku’ was a highly commended finalist in the Short Fiction in English category.

    Both of Nadine’s Pikihuia-awarded stories are published in Huia Short Stories 15 (Huia, 2023), and her work has been widely published elsewhere. She writes regularly for online media outlet The Spinoff, she’s an active member of Te Hā o Ngā Pou Kaituhi (identifying, encouraging and promoting Māori writers), and is passionate about grassroots Māori writing and collective publishing.

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • In this interview episode for Bad Diaries Podcast, Jenny talks with curator, writer and art historian Emily McCulloch Childs. Emily loves diaries, life writing, and writers’ journals; her own earliest diary (velveteen-covered, horse-emblazoned) dates to when she was ten years old.

    Jenny and Emily talk about how they first met as anonymous bloggers in the 2010s, the freedom of not having to be ‘writery’ on their blogs, the sense of liberation that anonymity gave, and how blogging could become a kind of online diary.

    They discuss diaries as a cultural snapshot, and as revealing not only the inner life of the diarist, but of the other people around us while we are writing. They ask: do we write diaries to record, or to process, or both? And they consider the act of going back to the past and reading old diaries; how does it make us feel?

    Emily McCulloch Childs is a curator, writer, art historian, researcher, gallerist, publisher, fundraiser and maker, co-author & publisher of McCulloch’s Encyclopedia of Australian Art and McCulloch’s Contemporary Aboriginal Art: the complete guide, and author of New Beginnings: Classic Paintings from the Corrigan Collection of 21st century Aboriginal Art.

    Since 2003 she has been co-director of art company McCulloch & McCulloch with her mother, Susan McCulloch. They began exhibiting art in 2009, and established a home gallery at their family house ‘Whistlewood’ on the Mornington Peninsula, with a focus on Aboriginal art. In 2019 they opened Everywhen Artspace in Flinders, and now work with over 40 communities, 300 artists and 25 Aboriginal owned NFP art centres.

    Since 2013 Emily has been the founding curator of The Indigenous Jewellery Project, Australia’s first national contemporary jewellery project working with Aboriginal & Torres Strait Islander jewellers.

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • A mixed tape of an episode that takes in The Saints and New Order at the Seaview Ballroom in 1982 Melbourne, writes a song about a closed cemetery in rainy Paris in 1989, nicks a guitar pick from the INXS stage, and reads a lot of Dick Francis.

    After the last two interview episodes with special guests, this episode of Bad Diaries Podcast brings Jenny and Tracy back together, to read from our own diaries, on the theme of NOTES.

    We set the same theme for a Bad Diaries Salon in Melbourne in May this year – our first Melbourne salon since 2019 – and it got us thinking (as our salon themes always do) about the different ways to interpret NOTES. We riff on notes we write, notes to ourselves and to others, musical notes on the page and on the voice and in the ear. Love notes, lists (of books read, of spaghetti marinara eaten); notes that have fallen out of place, and notes that remain where they belong.

    Both of our readings, though, focus on music. Tracy reads from her travel journals, from a few days in Paris in 1989 that she later turned into song lyrics. Jenny reads from 1982 and her music-soaked Melbourne, nights catching INXS and No Nonsense, The Saints and New Order, Night Moves on the telly.

    To note is to observe, to notice, and we notice the value of notes, lists, ephemera. As Jenny says, “we might be thinking this is a podcast about diaries 
 all this other surrounding stuff – the notes, the scraps, the ticket stubs, the postcards 
 in some ways maybe gives more detail than the diaries themselves.”

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • In our second guest interview episode for Bad Diaries Podcast, Tracy talks with poet, essayist, reviewer and five-time Bad Diaries Salon reader Kate Camp about diaries, the slipperiness of memory, and noticing what you notice.

    Kate and Tracy dig down into the experience of reading at, and returning to, Bad Diaries Salon – what that means, what it brings, and what it feels like. Kate very generously talks about and reads from the treasure that is the little red diary she kept every day in 1986, the year she turned 14, “the best possible year of your life”.

    Kate Camp is one of Aotearoa New Zealand’s finest and most loved poets, with awards and plaudits and seven collections of poetry to her name, from her 1998 debut Unfamiliar Legends of the Stars to 2020’s How to Be Happy Though Human: New and Selected Poems.

    Last year saw the publication of Kate’s sharp-edged and quietly magnificent memoir, a collection of disarming true stories titled You Probably Think This Song Is About You. The pieces in the memoir are familiar but unsettling, disturbing but also somehow joyful – qualities shared with Kate’s readings at five Bad Diaries Salons at Wellington’s Verb Festival since 2018.

    Content warning: this episode includes brief mention of sexual assault and drug use, abortion, and negative self-talk.

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • In our first guest interview episode for Bad Diaries Podcast, Jenny talks with Sarah Krasnostein.

    On a May morning in Melbourne, Sarah and Jenny sink into Succession, narrative structure and shaping a story, research stepping stones, stationery, and Sarah talks about reading her early spy diaries (hello, Harriet the Spy) at a Bad Diaries Salon in Melbourne in 2018.

    Sarah reads from her 2022 book The Believer (Text Publishing, Australia; Tin House, US).

    Sarah Krasnostein is the multi-award winning author of The Trauma Cleaner, The Believer and the Quarterly Essay, Not Waving, Drowning. She holds a PhD in criminal law and is admitted to legal practice in New York and Victoria. A regular contributor to The Monthly and The Saturday Paper, she was awarded the 2022 Walkley Pascall Prize for Arts Criticism. Her latest work, On Peter Carey, is out this year from Black Inc Books.

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • In this third episode of Bad Diaries Podcast, we talk about the origin of BAD in Bad Diaries, and how, in our diaries, we can allow the badness – and the goodness – of our unedited lives to show. Jen coins the term ba-goodness, and we commit to making bad good (and making good bad).

    We bring other people’s diaries to this episode of the podcast, raiding our bookshelves for a random selection of Not At All Bad But Really Very Good Diaries to discuss. Some are diaries that we love and have re-read a bazillion times. Others we’ve only dipped into, or haven’t quite got round to reading (no shame!), despite best intentions.

    There’s some very heavy fan-grrrling on Helen Garner, and lots of love for Sylvia Plath, Katherine Mansfield and Derek Jarman (and Tracy’s decades-long obsession with his cottage and garden). Sarah Laing, in The Covid-19 Diaries, reminds us of The Bubble, but we can’t remember whether or not (or why) The Pillow Book was sexy. Different note-making and page-marking styles are revealed (Jen’s a corner-folder, top and bottom; Tracy’s appalled), we ponder crossings-out and missing facts in our diaries, and we talk about gaps and guilty pleasures (again, no shame) on our bookshelves.

    As we often do, we talk about this (writing) life. We get into professional competition (and jealousy), writing relationships (spouses and parents and sibs, oh my), and the importance of sisters (and how sisters freak Tracy out).

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • In this second episode of Bad Diaries Podcast, we take another dive into the Bad Diaries universe.

    We ask each other, Were you always a writer? We talk about our own history and practice of keeping diaries, personal journals and writing notebooks, and how that’s changed over time. Tracy curses her long-ago diary-reading boyfriend, and we ponder value, worth and hierarchies of writing.

    Tracy reads diary entries made on an overseas work trip (seaweed conference in Thessaloniki? Yes, please!), when she was scheduled to fly from Vancouver to Auckland on 11 September 2001.

    Jenny reads from DiArama – her 1980s diaries that she blogged, pseudonymously, in the 2010s – from April 1983, featuring bands, beer, boys, bad TV, and re-reading Blyton.

    We talk about the postures we assume, and the voices and ideas we try out, in our diaries.

    Then we talk about My Mum’s Bad Diaries, the podcast in which Jenny reads her own diaries to her 20-something daughter. Season 1 – in 27 episodes, covering 1980 to 1981 – was released in 2022, and Season 2 – starting in 1982 – is out weekly in 2023.

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • In this first episode of Bad Diaries Podcast, we talk about Bad Diaries Salon, the live literary series that we co-produce and co-curate – from the concept’s beginnings in 2017, when Jenny first put a call out on Twitter, to running 20 salons, with more than 70 readers, between 2017 and 2022.

    We talk about what makes the Bad Diaries Salon engine (juggernaut!) run so smoothly, recite the Bad Diaries Salon rules, and talk about the gold at the heart of salons: “people dig the concept, they get it straight away, and they love it”; “it works, it just works, it’s the little concept that could – it can fill a big space; it can also get little and quiet and beautiful”.

    We introduce Bad Diaries Podcast, our hopes and plans for the podcast. The salons exist in the room in the moment, a contract between readers and audience, that you have to be there to experience. With the podcast, we want to create something to return to. We’ll talk all things diaries – our own, other people's, published and unpublished – and feature guest interviews with writers who've read at live salons, and with people publishing diaries, designing them, and using them in fiction, film and other media.

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.

  • Diving into the world of diaries - the good, the bad and everything in between.

    Writers Jenny Ackland and Tracy Farr are fascinated by diaries: their own and other people’s. They’ve curated more than 20 Bad Diaries Salons across Australia and Aotearoa New Zealand since 2017, and now have a podcast to keep the discussion going. Join them as they chat with each other and with some of the more than 70 authors who have read at the Bad Diaries Salons.

    Find full show notes for this episode on the Bad Diaries Salon website baddiariessalon.com, or get in touch via Instagram or Facebook – we're @baddiariessalon everywhere.

    Thanks for joining us for Bad Diaries Podcast! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate and review us, wherever you get your podcasts.

    Bad Diaries Podcast is recorded and produced in Naarm Melbourne, Australia, on the lands of the Kulin Nation; and in Te Whanganui-a-Tara Wellington, Aotearoa New Zealand, on the iwi lands of Taranaki Whānui, and Ngāti Toa Rangatira. We pay our respects to Mana Whenua, and to Elders past, present and emerging, of these lands.