Episodes
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Today, I’m speaking with Kate and Bryan, the team behind Ciao Cielo in Port Melbourne. We talk about how they adapted through Covid, how their vision for the restaurant has evolved, and what it takes to keep things moving in a fast-changing hospitality world. From sourcing ingredients to managing a busy service, it’s clear their passion for what they do hasn’t wavered. I first visited Ciao Cielo back in 2018, not long after they opened in their new home, the beautifully restored Port Melbourne courthouse. There was something immediately striking about the space: grand but welcoming, with a sense of purpose and care behind every detail. That balance of warmth and precision seems to echo what Kate and Bryan aim for in the kitchen and on the floor. A lot has changed on the hospo landscape since then, but their commitment to thoughtful, generous hospitality is as strong as ever, as is their limoncello, which they make in-house and insist you try. It’s just one small example of the way they do things properly, with heart.
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When I first asked Daniel Migliaccio at Studio Amaro for a chat, he politely declined: not one for the media spotlight, he said. But persistence pays off, and second time lucky, I found myself at Studio Amaro with a chef who’s been quietly steering the ship across Commune Group kitchens for nearly seven years. From teenage dishwasher in Ferntree Gully to Grossi-trained pasta guy to Hanoi Hannah’s head chef and beyond, Daniel’s journey is less about chasing fame and more about feeding people well, mentoring his crew, and yes, finding strange joy in spreadsheets.
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Every now and then, you meet people who radiate such generosity, such quiet brilliance, that you walk away feeling a little bit better about the world. Chae and Yoora, the couple behind the tiny six-seat Korean restaurantChaein the hills of Cockatoo, are exactly those kinds of people.This is a restaurant where time is the main ingredient. Years go into the ferments, and the big clay jars sitting outside, quietly brewing flavour, take up more than just physical space; they represent a completely different way of thinking about food and business. The intimacy is part of the experience: Chae, calmly plating at the bench, Yoora quietly attentive to everything else. It began humbly, in their Brunswick apartment, with Chae just giving it a go. But beneath that quiet start was a deep well of skill, philosophy and soul.
Now, I have a confession. This was actually the second time I sat down to record this episode. The first time, I drove out, I had a beautiful, thoughtful conversation with Chae and Yoora, drove home, and, poof. The recording vanished. Gone. A technical glitch, or maybe just the podcast gods keeping me humble. But Chae, being the gracious human she is, invited me back. And I'm so glad she did, because this chat, take two, feels even more special. -
From the bustling streets of Naples to the top of Melbourne’s pizza scene, Mariano De Giacomi is a pizzaiolo who lives and breathes his craft. Raised in a tight-knit family with five children and few resources, Mariano began working at the age of nine, lugging shopping bags from a local deli to neighbours' homes. His path into pizza began not with flour and fire, but with washing dishes and salvaging dough bound for the bin, training himself, quietly and obsessively, on scraps. In Naples, he spent over a decade mastering the art of pizza at Umberto, an acclaimed pizzeria and founding member of the Associazione Verace Pizza Napoletana, or True Neapolitan Pizza Association, where he developed a deep knowledge of dough science and fermentation. It was here he met Johnny Di Francesco of 400 Gradi, who later invited him to Melbourne. Mariano went on to become the Executive Chef for the Gradi Group, training an entire generation of Melbourne’s pizza makers and helping build one of the city’s most iconic pizza empires. Now, with his own venture, Made a Napoli, Mariano brings the show to you: mobile pizza ovens, silent disco headsets, and even his kids spinning dough at events.
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There’s something grounded and quietly assured about Adam Sanderson. Maybe it’s the way he talks about kitchens as places of belonging. Or maybe it’s the way his journey, which began in the north of England, has moved through some of the most celebrated dining rooms in the world: The Fat Duck, where creativity and precision dance together, and Noma in Copenhagen, where he learned to see ingredients through a new lens. When Adam landed in Melbourne, he felt the pulse of the city straight away; its openness, its energy, its love of food and something clicked. Now, as executive chef at Maison Batard, he’s found a space where all those experiences can come together. Maison Batard is a layered, generous space set across four floors and for me exudes French style and sensibilities. The menu features reimagined French classics, a potato omelette topped with caviar, rotisserie chicken with green olives, and a chocolate mousse served at the table with just the right amount of theatre. It’s a place that celebrates flavour, hospitality, and the quiet confidence of a chef who knows exactly where he is. I chatted with Adam in Le Club which is the basement burlesque bar of Maison Batard. It is all sumptuous red with velvet draping and intimate booths and at the time of day we were there, it’s the quietest place to be in Maison Batard.
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Daniel welcomed me into the ‘red room’ at Bang Bang’s newest venue in St Kilda. Although it’s only been open a few weeks, Bang Bang St Kilda already has a following. As executive chef and now a full partner in the Bang Bang group, Daniel oversees three restaurants and two additional kitchens across Melbourne’s southeast. His chef career has come full circle, as he met his wife in St Kilda and they travelled to London to work for two years before coming back to Melbourne and moving to the Mornington Peninsula with their young family. Daniel still loves spending time in the kitchen, but his focus is now on maintaining consistency across the venues. Bang Bang’s menu is Pan-Asian, drawing from Japan, Thailand, and India. Inspired by his travels, Daniel refines the menu while keeping beloved staples intact, striking a balance between authenticity and modern execution.
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Callum Nugent might be relatively new to Stokehouse Pasta & Bar, but he's no stranger to high-pressure kitchens. Since stepping into his first official head chef role in December, he's embraced the challenge with enthusiasm. His love of food started young; he remembers being glued to TV cooking shows at just three years old and spending time in the kitchen with his mum, nonna, and godmother. With experience at places like Chateau Yering, Dinner by Heston Blumenthal and a formative 18 month stage in San Sebastian when he was 19, Callum has shaped his leadership style around balance: precision and creativity, discipline and support. He's passionate about keeping his team inspired, changing the menu every two weeks, and making sure hospitality is as rewarding for those in the kitchen as it is for those at the table.
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Cameron Tay-Yap didn’t really set out to be a chef, initially cooking for his family was a way to avoid doing his homework. But in secondary school, he took a chance on hospitality, and a friendly rivalry with a classmate pushed him to take food seriously. That competitive streak led to a stage at Attica, where he found his rhythm in the high-stakes world of fine dining. Since then, he has travelled and spent time as the head chef at Amaru. But his latest venture, Pebble at La Roca, is something different. What began as a pop-up in a car park evolved into a space where Cameron could step back, experiment, and bring people together—though, true to form, his “relaxed” project still involves weekly menu changes and exacting standards. Cameron reflects on his journey, the discipline of top-tier kitchens, and why, after a decade in fine dining, rustic cooking is harder than it looks. Generous with his insights, he shares here what the industry has taught him—not just about food, but about patience, compassion, and the kind of leadership that brings out the best in a team.
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Johnny Ly has been the head chef at Green Man’s Arms for five and a half years, bringing creativity and passion to plant-based cooking. His journey began at University House at Melbourne Uni, where he completed his apprenticeship and worked for a decade, gaining experience across a variety of cuisines. After stints at RACV fine dining and vegan eateries like The Alley and Serotonin Eatery, he was drawn back to restaurant-style dining, ultimately landing at Green Man’s Arms. Johnny takes an innovative approach to plant-based food, reimagining classic dishes while accommodating dietary needs. He credits his mother for sparking his love of food and fosters a collaborative kitchen where his team shares in the creative process. For Johnny, food is deeply personal; a way to evoke memories, bring people together, and create something meaningful.
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Dan Lidgard has always known he was meant to be a chef. Growing up in Mt Maunganui, New Zealand, he was drawn to the kitchen from an early age and never looked back. His career has taken him through some of Australia’s best restaurants, including Stokehouse and Attica, where he honed his skills and developed his own bold, produce-driven style. Now, as executive chef at Patsy’s, Bau Bau, and Bistro Elba, he’s creating dishes that are fun, fresh, and packed with flavour. It is obvious from talking with Dan that he loves cooking and can’t imagine doing anything else. He kept popping up on my radar as other chefs mentioned him in glowing terms and then I read Broadsheet’s recent article about the ‘cool’ chefs cooking in Bouldering Gym carparks. Dan is one of them, joining mate and founder of Pebble at La Roca, Cameron Tay-Yap this Sunday to cook up an Italian feast. It was high time I chatted to Dan and I am so glad I did.
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Simon Cassar has always been immersed in food, working in hospo from a young age and then as an editor at Urban List, where he wrote about Melbourne’s dining scene. Now he is the owner of his own pizza shop. His journey from writer to pizzaiolo wasn’t immediate. He spent time working at DOC in Mornington, running pop-ups in Sorrento, Flinders and over summer at Quealy Wines in Balnarring, and obsessively refining his dough. Inspired by a hybrid pizza style he encountered in New York and London, Simon aims to strike a balance between Neapolitan tradition and the crisp, structured slices of New York. Now, after years of honing his craft, he’s taking the plunge with a bricks-and-mortar space, where he’ll keep things simple: a tight menu, top-quality local ingredients, and a deep commitment to making great pizza.
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Michael Lambie is a renowned chef and restaurateur who has significantly influenced Melbourne's dining scene since the late 1990s. Originally from the UK, Lambie trained under esteemed chefs, including Marco Pierre White and Alain Roux, before relocating to Australia. In Melbourne, he made his mark with establishments such as Stokehouse, Circa at The Prince, Taxi Dining Room, and Lucy Liu. After selling Lucy Liu in 2020 and a brief period in Queensland, Lambie returned to Melbourne to open Juni in late 2024. Named in honour of his late mother, June, Juni offers a contemporary pan-Asian menu which includes dishes that nod to some of Michael’s favourites across his career. Michael tells the best stories about chef life in the nineties: wild kitchens, big personalities, and the industry’s transformation into what it is today. I loved every minute of this chat, and I could have listened to Michael for hours.
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Why doesn’t almond milk ever taste like real almonds? That question sent Marialuisa Castrignano on a journey to create Al Naturale, a nut milk company dedicated to making fresh, high-quality almond milk right here in Melbourne. Frustrated by store-bought options that lacked real almond flavour, she set out to craft a pure, additive-free alternative—one where you could actually taste the richness of the almonds. Each nut milk is made with the highest quality of activated nuts. Their bottles include either 20% or 8% almonds, 12% walnut, or 12% hazelnut, filtered water, date and a pinch of salt which makes Al Naturale the best authentic plant-based milk in Australia. A year ago, Marialuisa opened a cafe in St Kilda so that Melburnians could enjoy Al Naturale as part of their daily coffee ritual. Tucked away from the bustle of Fitzroy Street, this café is a serene retreat, bathed in soft green tones and filled with lush greenery. As well as the nut milks, they serve Italian-style breakfast and lunch dishes.
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Zac Shearer is a chef with a deep-rooted love for food that started in Tasmania, where his dad was a fisherman and his mum took him on trips to Melbourne’s Food and Wine shows. He’s been cooking since he was 18, spending time in Melbourne kitchens such as The Lincoln and French Saloon. Now, he’s taking on a new challenge—training to be a food studies teacher—while also launching Tiny Bar in Brunswick East with his partner, Jamila. I had been wanting to chat to Zac for a while and now that there’s so much happening, it was the perfect time. We talked about his journey, the shift from head chef roles restaurant kitchens to the classroom and a very tiny bar where the kitchen is literally a step from the tables. We also talked about why Tiny Bar is already such a special addition to Melbourne’s food scene, a couple of weeks in where it seems to be exactly what everyone was waiting for.
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Lyndey Milan is a vibrant force in Australian food, known for her warm personality and deep love of good food and wine. With decades of experience as a TV presenter, cookbook author, and food educator, she’s passionate about making cooking accessible and enjoyable. She was the food director at Australian Women’s Weekly, has hosted numerous TV shows, and also created Tasting Success, a mentoring program for women chefs. Whether she’s sharing recipes, hosting culinary tours, or championing Australian produce, her enthusiasm is infectious. Who better to host an exclusive food and wine adventure at this year’s Melbourne Food and Wine Festival (MFWF)? This six-day journey in collaboration with Intrepid is billed as a Culinary Adventure and takes you through Melbourne and regional Victoria’s best food and wine experiences. From the unmissable World’s Longest Lunch to a rare spirits and international cheese tasting in Melbourne and a three-hour degustation aboard The Q Train, this really will be an amazing six days. I was delighted at the opportunity to speak to Lyndey and hear about the tour but also to hear about her career and how she got to where she is today.
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For over 30 years, Phillippa Grogan has been a beloved name in Melbourne’s food scene. Founder of Phillippa’s Bakery, she draws inspiration from her New Zealand childhood and nine formative years with Sally Clarke at her restaurant and foodstore in London. Phillippa is unyielding in her use of top-quality ingredients, traditional recipes and flavour. Phillippa is absolutely all about flavour. Because of that, her creations have been a staple for generations of Melburnians. Walking into her Armadale shop feels like walking into a farmhouse kitchen with its beautiful wooden sideboards and display cabinets full of delicious quiches and breads and the hugely popular cardamom buns. I was delighted to have the chance to sit with Phillippa and hear her story and I will definitely be back very soon for another cardamom bun.
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The role of Head of Fermentation is not something you come across every day. In fact, Caitlin Koether is somewhat of a pioneer in this space and holds one of the first such positions in Australia, a role with The Mulberry Group which was uniquely crafted around her expertise. Caitlin’s work is all about preservation, finding ways to extend the life of seasonal produce, create new flavours, and reduce waste. Her approach balances creativity and science, turning sometimes imperfect ingredients into something extraordinary. With the resources of Common Ground farm on the Bellarine Peninsula, she works closely with the chefs in the group as well as the farmers to use ingredients that enhance menus in thoughtful ways. From condiments to non-alcoholic beverages, her creations are seamlessly integrated into dishes, showcasing how fermentation can elevate flavour while supporting the planet. I sat down to chat with Caitlin at Little Molli in Abbotsford and then ate a delicious smoked chicken tartine with chickpea miso mayo and pickled celery and drank a striking Miso Wave which is a blue spirulina shake inspired by the look of the Erewhon Coconut Cloud Smoothie. As the first Conversation with a chef for the year, Caitlin has set the bar high. Passionate, articulate and a joy to talk to, Caitlin is one to watch and if I were you, dear listener, I would be getting to Little Molli as quickly as you can to experience the goodness for yourself.
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Mordialloc is a vibe and the team from La Cabra are here for it. Set just back from the beach, and only metres from the train station, the latest Mexican addition to the Mordi strip is also La Cabra’s ninth and biggest to date. Housed across three levels in a heritage building, complete with a rooftop deck and stunning views across the bay, it is perfect for watching the sunset with a spicy marg in hand. Foodwise, you’ll find all the favourites, think chargrilled corn, jalapeno poppers, nachos, quesadillas, and plenty of tacos. I sat down with founders Sherinder Kohli, Derrick Chandra and Joshua Smith on a hot sunny day when the beach was packed, and hundreds of kids were jumping into the sea from the end of the pier. The three friends met through a shared love of hospitality and a desire to create a super fun dining destination. Since 2019 they have created nine such venues and they have plans for even more. And just a little note to the adventurous, anyone who dines at the Mordi La Cabra from 13 January to 30 March, 2025 will go into the draw to win a week-long trip to Mexico. The trip for two includes accommodation, flights and the winners will be taken on a tour of Mexico’s iconic Casa Herradura Tequila Distillery, just rack up $50 on your bill and you'll be in with a shot.
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Max’s Restaurant was the first winery restaurant on the Mornington Peninsula and was started by owner and chef, Max Paganoni in 1994. The views are spectacular. From the dining room, you look out over the vines to Western Port and across to Seal Rock. Max has always been passionate about using and promoting local produce and he has now very happily brought in two equally enthusiastic chefs, Michael Demagistris and Ryan James to work with him at Max’s. Michael has worked at top-tier venues, including Jacques Reymond in Melbourne, Alinea and The Publican in Chicago, and Noma in Copenhagen. In 2013, he became a household name as a top four finalist on MasterChef Australia: The Professionals. Over the years, Demagistris has held executive chef roles at places like Sorrento Golf Club and Buckley’s Chance and owned his own restaurant East Bar and Dining in Mount Martha. Most recently, he has worked at Polperro Winery and was executive chef with Searoad Ferries and Tarra. Best friend, Ryan considers Michael a mentor, having met him at East Bar and Dining before going on to some of the same venues. These two are absolutely the A team. They hold the same values for cooking and for connection with the community and they are both ecstatic to be cooking at Max’s Restaurant. They’ve worked with farmer and chef, Karl Breese to harvest vegetables they are excited about and they are putting up a degustation menu full of imaginative and delicious twists and turns. I had such a lovely chat with Michael and Ryan and then was treated to some of the snacks and desserts they had told me about. I can’t wait to go back to the lush and verdant setting that is Max’s Restaurant to share it all with friends.
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Geraldine is a lovely rural town in South Canterbury in the South Island of Aotearoa, New Zealand and it is also home to the family-owned business, Barker’s. Barker’s have been filling kiwi pantries since 1969 and their products are still made on the family farm in Geraldine. I remember Barker’s blackcurrant syrup and Barker’s jams when I was growing up, but they have so many more products than that now: chutneys, sauces, compotes and meal bases. I was pleasantly surprised when I was walking down Park Street in South Melbourne to see the Barker’s Foodstore and Eatery sign and had to go in. The café stocks a lot of Barker’s products and chef, Elle Casta’s menu showcases them. Elle started her cheffing career a little later after working as a paralegal and then in advertising. She always loved cooking for her friends and, after apprenticeships at Ocha in Kew and Vue de Monde, her love for cooking only grew and there was no looking back. She now very happily works day shifts and particularly loves her loyal following of the Barker’s dogs for whom she bakes big batches of peanut butter and oatmeal cookies every day.
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