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  • In the last episode of Series 1 of the Defence Barrister Podcast, the jury delivers its verdicts in the murder trial of R v Aidan Johnson and Conor Williams.A Not Guilty verdict will lead to freedom, a Guilty verdict will lead to a sentence of life imprisonment, the mandatory sentence for murder.Of course, the nature of jury trials in England & Wales is that we never get to hear exactly what happens inside the jury room, except - rarely - when something goes wrong or things get out of hand, and one juror reports another which prompts an investigation, and in this episode we look at some examples of what can go wrong in the jury room, and how jurors can sometimes do precisely what the judge has told them not to do, as well as - more generally - why the system of jury trial is still held by many in high regard.We also look at what happens when a jury cannot agree on a verdict. When can a jury return a majority verdict, does a Guilty verdict by a majority carry less weight than a jury’s unanimous verdict of guilt, and what happens when there is a hung jury, meaning that they are split and unable to reach a decision?And yes, there will be a Series 2 of the Defence Barrister Podcast which you’ll hear all about at the end of this episode, but save the date for Wednesday 31st July when the next episode will be available wherever you listen to your podcasts.I hope you enjoy this episode and I look forward to you joining me again for Series 2.As ever, thank you for listening.NOTESThroughout this podcast I have referred to legislation, cases and to further information and reading. Please refer to the links in the Legal Notes below to access this information yourself.Majority Verdict - S.17 Juries Act 1974 - Majority Verdicts https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1974/23/section/17 Criminal Procedure Rule 25.14(5)(c) - Majority Verdict Procedure https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/759/rule/25.14/made Watson Direction -Watson [1988] QB 690, 87 Cr.App.R. 1 CA (not publicly available) - A ‘Watson Direction’ is a ‘give and take’ direction intended to help jurors reach a verdict.The Watson Direction is contained in the Crown Court Compendium, Part 1 at paragraph 21-8 https://www.judiciary.uk/guidance-and-resources/crown-court-compendium/ Juror Responsibilities -‘Your Legal Responsibilities as a Juror’ - the Notice given to all jurors before a trial commences https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5fbe9ee0e90e077ed7351b0a/j001-eng.pdf Jury Irregularity -R v Connor and another; R v Mirza (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal (Criminal Division)) (Conjoined Appeals) [2004] UKHL 2 - evidence of jury irregularities https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200304/ldjudgmt/jd040122/conn-1.htm Criminal Practice Direction 8.7 - Procedure to be adopted to investigate a jury irregularity https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Criminal-Practice-Directions-2023-1-3.pdf Solicitor-General v Stoddart [2017] EWHC 1361 - Juror in contempt of court for online research https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2017/1361.html Attorney-General v Dallas [2012] EWHC 156 (Admin) - Juror in contempt of court for online research https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2012/156.html R v Young (Stephen) [1995] QB 324 - Jury consulting ouija board for information - case not publicly available but referred to in Kent Live here: https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/pembury-double-murders-drunken-jury-6116526 PLEASE NOTE:It is a pleasure to hear from you and to answer your questions, but due to the matters set out below please understand that there are certain questions I am unable to respond to:Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this podcast are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.Thank you for your understanding.CONTACTEmail: [email protected] https://twitter.com/defencebarInstagram https://www.instagram.com/defencebar/COPYRIGHTMusic and content created and recorded by Chris Kessling © 2024. All rights reserved.External links to (and provision of information from) .gov.uk websites, the sentencing council website (sentencingcouncil.org.uk), the Judiciary website (judiciary.uk) and other information subject to Crown copyright is provided under the terms of the open goverment licence - https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/

  • In Episode 13, we hear the final closing speech from Ivy Jewell on behalf of Conor Williams, and then the judge sums-up the case to the jury.

    As the judge explains, the judge is ‘the judge of the law’ and the jury are ‘the judges of the facts’, their task being to evaluate the evidence and apply the law as they are directed to do.

    And as we will find out, even to trained lawyers, directions on law can be complicated, so to ease their task jurors are now given written legal directions and a written ‘route to verdict’, a step-by-step roadmap to follow which - depending on their view of the facts - will lead them to a verdict of either guilty or not guilty in each defendant’s case.

    You can see the written route to verdict in our case in the Podcast Legal Notes below.

    There are a number of standard judicial directions in every summing-up, as well a number of directions tailored to the specific issues in the case, all aimed at ensuring the jury takes the correct approach to their task and delivers a true verdict according to the evidence.

    When the summing-up is finished, the jury in the case of R v Aidan Johnson and Conor Williams will retire to consider their verdict, a verdict which we will hear in Episode 14, the last Episode in Series 1 of the Defence Barrister Podcast.

    As ever, thank you for listening.

    NOTES
    Throughout this podcast I have referred to legislation, cases and to further information and reading. Please refer to the links in the Legal Notes below to access this information yourself.

    You will also find a list of the characters in this podcast below to help you.

    CHARACTERS
    Defendants -
    Aidan Johnson - (visually described at the scene as white, dark hair and a pink shirt)
    Bianca Jones - (visually described at the scene as white, slim, wearing a green top and with long dark hair)
    Conor Williams - (visually described at the scene as black, short hair, white t-shirt and stocky build)

    Prosecution Barrister -
    Keith Lowe

    Defence Barristers -
    Gabriella Hadden - representing Aidan
    Henry Irwin - representing Bianca
    Ivy Jewell - representing Conor

    Defence Solicitors -
    Georgina Hale - representing Aidan
    Holly Ibsen - representing Bianca
    Ramesh Jayanshankar - representing Conor

    The Deceased -
    Daniel Clarke - (visually described as having bright blond hair and dark clothing)

    Main Prosecution witnesses -
    Ethan Green (friend of Daniel Clarke)
    Finn Hawkins (friend of Daniel Clarke)

    LEGAL NOTES
    Summing Up -
    Crown Court Compendium, Part I: Jury and Trial Management and Summing Up https://www.judiciary.uk/guidance-and-resources/crown-court-compendium/

    Criminal Procedure Rule 25.14 - Directions to the jury and taking the verdict
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/759/rule/25.14/made

    Criminal Practice Directions 2023 - 8.5 Jury Directions and Written Material
    https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Criminal-Practice-Directions-2023-1.pdf

    R v N [2019] EWCA Crim 2280 (para 19) - the importance of written directions on complex matters of law https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2019/2280.html

    WRITTEN ROUTE TO VERDICT
    Concerning the defendant Aidan Johnson:

    Q1 Are you sure that Aidan Johnson struck Daniel Clarke with the broken bottle? If yes, go to question 2, if no, the verdict is Not Guilty.

    Q2 Are you sure that when Aidan Johnson struck Daniel Clarke with the broken bottle, he was not acting in lawful self-defence? If you are sure he was not acting in self-defence, go to question 3. If you are not sure (i.e. you believe he was or might have been acting in self-defence) the verdict is Not Guilty.

    Q3 Are you sure that when Aidan Johnson struck Daniel Clarke with the broken bottle, he intended to cause Daniel Clarke really serious harm? If yes, the verdict is Guilty. If no, the verdict is Not Guilty.

    Concerning the defendant Conor Williams:

    Q1 Are you sure that Aidan Johnson struck Daniel Clarke with the broken bottle? If yes, go to question 2. If no, the verdict for Conor Williams is Not Guilty.

    Q2 Are you sure that by his words or actions Conor Williams intentionally encouraged Aidan Johnson to attack Daniel Clarke? If yes, go to question 3. If no, the verdict for Conor Williams is Not Guilty.

    Q3 Are you sure that when Aidan Johnson struck Daniel Clarke with the broken bottle, he was not acting in lawful self-defence? If you are sure that Aidan Johnson was not acting in self-defence, go to question 4. If you are not sure (i.e. you believe Aidan Johnson was or might have been acting in self-defence) the verdict for Conor Williams is Not Guilty.

    Q4 Are you sure that Conor Williams intended by his words or actions that Aidan Johnson would cause really serious harm to Daniel Clarke? If yes, the verdict for Conor Williams is Guilty. If no, the verdict is Not Guilty.

    PLEASE NOTE:
    It is a pleasure to hear from you and to answer your questions, but due to the matters set out below please understand that there are certain questions I am unable to respond to:

    Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

    I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.

    Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.

    The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this podcast are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.

    Thank you for your understanding.

    CONTACT
    Email: [email protected]
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    COPYRIGHT
    Music and content created and recorded by Chris Kessling © 2024. All rights reserved.

    External links to (and provision of information from) .gov.uk websites, the sentencing council website (sentencingcouncil.org.uk), the Judiciary website (judiciary.uk) and other information subject to Crown copyright is provided under the terms of the open goverment licence - https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/

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  • The murder trial of Aidan Johnson & Conor Williams continues. We have now reached the penultimate stage of the trial - closing speeches by the prosecution and the defence - where each advocate will pull together the strands of the evidence and seek to put together a compelling argument with the intention of finally persuading the jury to reach what they say is the correct verdict.

    As we will discover, at the heart of a closing speech is good advocacy - the power of persuasion, the ability for each side to make a closing argument when each side has precisely the same material to work from.

    When are the prosecution and defence entitled to make a closing speech? And when making one, does anything go, or are there restrictions on what an advocate can say? Listen on to find out.

    As you listen to the closing speeches in this episode, you might want to place yourselves in the position of the jury, and if you have followed this case from the outset, to put to one side everything you know about this case that the jury has not heard, remembering that all the jury know is from the evidence that has been presented to them.

    How convinced, or otherwise, are you by the closing speeches you hear? Will the prosecution barrister, Keith Lowe, persuade you that either or both the defendants are guilty, and will the defence barrister Gabriella Hadden (for Aiden) persuade you that there is a reasonable doubt in his case, such that you are simply not satisfied so that you are sure of guilt, and your verdict will be Not Guilty.

    And after this episode, we will be moving ever closer to the final outcome, to Ivy Jewell’s closing speech for Conor Williams, followed by the judge’s summing-up of the facts and his directions on law to the jury, and from there to the stage when the jury retires to consider its verdict. After that, Aidan and Conor can only wait to hear what their ultimate fate will be.

    As ever, thank you for listening.

    NOTES
    Throughout this podcast I have referred to legislation, cases and to further information and reading. Please refer to the links in the Legal Notes below to access this information yourself.

    You will also find a list of the characters in this podcast below to help you.

    CHARACTERS
    Defendants -
    Aidan Johnson - (visually described at the scene as white, dark hair and a pink shirt)
    Bianca Jones - (visually described at the scene as white, slim, wearing a green top and with long dark hair)
    Conor Williams - (visually described at the scene as black, short hair, white t-shirt and stocky build)

    Prosecution Barrister -
    Keith Lowe

    Defence Barristers -
    Gabriella Hadden - representing Aidan
    Henry Irwin - representing Bianca
    Ivy Jewell - representing Conor

    Defence Solicitors -
    Georgina Hale - representing Aidan
    Holly Ibsen - representing Bianca
    Ramesh Jayanshankar - representing Conor

    The Deceased -
    Daniel Clarke - (visually described as having bright blond hair and dark clothing)

    Main Prosecution witnesses -
    Ethan Green (friend of Daniel Clarke)
    Finn Hawkins (friend of Daniel Clarke)

    LEGAL NOTES
    Closing speeches -
    Criminal Procedure Rule 25.9(2)(j) - when the prosecution can make a closing speech - and Criminal Procedure Rule 25.9(2)(k) - defence are always entitled to make a closing speech https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/759/rule/25.9/made

    Ekaireb [2015] EWCA Crim 1936 - in this case the Court of Appeal was critical of a practice of personal criticism being made of opposing advocates in closing speeches and made clear that such practice would not be tolerated. https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2015/1936.html

    ADDITIONAL READING - DEFENCE-BARRISTER.CO.UK
    For additional detailed reading and further information on many aspects of what is covered throughout this series, please go to Defence-Barrister.co.uk https://www.defence-barrister.co.uk written by Chris Kessling, Criminal Barrister.

    PLEASE NOTE:
    It is a pleasure to hear from you and to answer your questions, but due to the matters set out below please understand that there are certain questions I am unable to respond to:

    Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

    I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.

    Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.

    The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this podcast are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.

    Thank you for your understanding.

    CONTACT
    Email: [email protected]
    X https://twitter.com/defencebar
    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/defencebar/

    COPYRIGHT
    Music and content created and recorded by Chris Kessling © 2024. All rights reserved.

    External links to (and provision of information from) .gov.uk websites, the sentencing council website (sentencingcouncil.org.uk), the Judiciary website (judiciary.uk) and other information subject to Crown copyright is provided under the terms of the open goverment licence -https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/

  • The murder trial continues, and we hear the defence cases on behalf of Aidan Johnson and Conor Williams.

    And now there are just two defendants left in our case, Bianca Jones having been acquitted on the direction of the judge following a successful submission of no case to answer by her barrister Henry Irwin.

    Having been formally found Not Guilty, it means that Bianca has left the case and moved on to pick up her life, leaving behind Aidan and Conor who are still facing the charge of murdering 23-year-old Daniel Clarke outside Bradley’s nightclub in the early hours one Saturday morning in late January.

    For Aidan and Conor, the stakes could not be higher. Before long, they will reach the ultimate conclusion of this trial, the jury’s verdict. A Not Guilty verdict will secure their freedom, but a guilty verdict can lead to only one outcome - a mandatory sentence of life imprisonment.

    At the end of Episode 10, Aidan was called to give evidence by his barrister Gabriella Hadden and in this episode we will join them back in court.

    As we find out, sometimes the end of the prosecution case is the high point for the defence. In this episode we find out why.

    What are the risks involved for a defendant giving evidence, versus staying silent? Listen to find out more, including what an adverse inference means for defendants who choose to stay nothing, and what cross-examination can mean for defendants who choose to give evidence.

    If you want to catch up on what’s led us to where we are now, from the scene of the alleged crime in Episode 1 to the close of the prosecution case in Episode 10, please feel free to start from the beginning to discover how this case has developed from the outset, and exactly why we have arrived at where we are now.

    As ever, thank you for listening.

    NOTES
    Throughout this podcast I have referred to legislation, cases and to further information and reading. Please refer to the links in the Legal Notes below to access this information yourself.

    You will also find a list of the characters in this podcast below to help you.

    CHARACTERS

    Defendants -
    Aidan Johnson - (visually described at the scene as white, dark hair and a pink shirt)
    Bianca Jones - (visually described at the scene as white, slim, wearing a green top and with long dark hair)
    Conor Williams - (visually described at the scene as black, short hair, white t-shirt and stocky build)

    Prosecution Barrister -
    Keith Lowe

    Defence Barristers -
    Gabriella Hadden - representing Aidan
    Henry Irwin - representing Bianca
    Ivy Jewell - representing Conor

    Defence Solicitors -
    Georgina Hale - representing Aidan
    Holly Ibsen - representing Bianca
    Ramesh Jayanshankar - representing Conor

    The Deceased -
    Daniel Clarke - (visually described as having bright blond hair and dark clothing)

    Main Prosecution witnesses -
    Ethan Green (friend of Daniel Clarke)
    Finn Hawkins (friend of Daniel Clarke)

    LEGAL NOTES
    Adverse Inference from not giving Evidence -

    s. 35 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 - Effect of accused’s silence at trial https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/33/section/35

    ADDITIONAL READING - DEFENCE-BARRISTER.CO.UK
    For additional detailed reading on many aspects of what is covered throughout this series, please go to Defence-Barrister.co.uk https://www.defence-barrister.co.uk written by Chris Kessling, Criminal Barrister.

    PLEASE NOTE:
    It is a pleasure to hear from you and to answer your questions, but due to the matters set out below please understand that there are certain questions I am unable to respond to:

    Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

    I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.

    Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.

    The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this podcast are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.

    Thank you for your understanding.

    CONTACT
    Email: [email protected]
    X https://twitter.com/defencebar
    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/defencebar/

    COPYRIGHT
    Music and content created and recorded by Chris Kessling © 2024. All rights reserved.

    External links to (and provision of information from) .gov.uk websites, the sentencing council website (sentencingcouncil.org.uk), the Judiciary website (judiciary.uk) and other information subject to Crown copyright is provided under the terms of the open goverment licence - https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/

  • In Episode 10, we move through the remainder of the prosecution case against our three defendants, Aidan Johnson, Bianca Jones & Conor Williams, all of whom are accused of murdering 23 year old Daniel Clarke outside Bradley's Nightclub in the early hours one Saturday morning in late January.

    The prosecution are still to call the next main prosecution witness, Ethan Green, but - the last we knew - he wasn’t too keen on helping, and the fact that a warrant was issued for his arrest to bring him to court - whether he liked it or not - may not help matters. We’ll see.

    What does it mean to be competent to be a witness? What does it mean to be compellable? When can a witness refuse to answer questions? And what can happen if a witness simply refuses to play ball?

    How does the prosecution present agreed evidence? Why is a defendant’s police interview presented as part of the prosecution case? And why is the record of the police interview edited before it is shown to the jury?

    On top of all that, Ivy Jewell, Conor’s barrister, is wrestling with Conor’s revelation about Bianca, and we’ll find out what approach Ivy now takes in her client’s defence.

    What is a cut-throat defence and how does it usually play out?

    And, after the prosecution case, comes the defence case unless, as we’ll see, the barristers for each defendant can do something to bring the case to an early conclusion - which means we’ll go into detail about what’s known as a Submission of No Case to Answer.

    If you want to catch up on what’s led us to where we are now, from the scene of the alleged crime and the defendants' arrest in Episode 1, to the opening of the prosecution case in Episode 7 and the examination-in-chief and cross-examination of the first witness in Episodes 8 and 9, then please go back to the beginning and discover how this case has developed from the outset.

    As ever, thank you for listening.

    NOTES
    Throughout this podcast I have referred to legislation, cases and to further information and reading. Please refer to the links in the Legal Notes below to access this information yourself.

    You will also find a list of the characters in this podcast below to help you.

    CHARACTERS
    Defendants -
    Aidan Johnson - (visually described at the scene as white, dark hair and a pink shirt)
    Bianca Jones - (visually described at the scene as white, slim, wearing a green top and with long dark hair)
    Conor Williams - (visually described at the scene as black, short hair, white t-shirt and stocky build)

    Prosecution Barrister -
    Keith Lowe

    Defence Barristers -
    Gabriella Hadden - representing Aidan
    Henry Irwin - representing Bianca
    Ivy Jewell - representing Conor

    Defence Solicitors -
    Georgina Hale - representing Aidan
    Holly Ibsen - representing Bianca
    Ramesh Jayanshankar - representing Conor

    The Deceased -
    Daniel Clarke - (visually described as having bright blond hair and dark clothing)

    Main Prosecution witnesses -
    Ethan Green (friend of Daniel Clarke)
    Finn Hawkins (friend of Daniel Clarke)

    LEGAL NOTES
    Competence to give Evidence -
    s.53 of the Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 - Competence of witnesses to give evidence https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1999/23/section/53

    Exceptions to Compellability -
    s.80 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 - Competence and compellability of accused's spouse or civil partner https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/60/section/80/enacted

    Agreed Facts -
    s.10 of the Criminal Justice Act 1967 - Proof by formal admission
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/80/section/10

    Hearsay - Interests of Justice -
    s.114(1)(d) of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 - Admissibility of hearsay evidence https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/section/114

    Submission of No Case to Answer -
    Criminal Procedure Rule 25.9(2)(e) - Procedure and basic test for a submission of no case to answer https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/759/rule/25.9/made

    R v Galbraith [1981] 2 All ER 1060 - the case which sets out the detailed approach to submissions of no case to answer (not publicly available but helpful summary on Wikipedia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_case_to_answer

    R v Craig and Bentley (1952) - Derek Bentley Wikipedia page
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Bentley

    ADDITIONAL READING - DEFENCE-BARRISTER.CO.UK
    For additional detailed reading on many aspects of what is covered throughout this series, please go to Defence-Barrister.co.uk https://www.defence-barrister.co.uk written by Chris Kessling, Criminal Barrister.

    PLEASE NOTE:
    It is a pleasure to hear from you and to answer your questions, but due to the matters set out below please understand that there are certain questions I am unable to respond to:

    Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

    I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.

    Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.

    The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this podcast are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.

    Thank you for your understanding.

    CONTACT
    Email: [email protected]
    X https://twitter.com/defencebar
    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/defencebar/

    COPYRIGHT
    Music and content created and recorded by Chris Kessling © 2024. All rights reserved.

    External links to (and provision of information from) .gov.uk websites, the sentencing council website (sentencingcouncil.org.uk), the Judiciary website (judiciary.uk) and other information subject to Crown copyright is provided under the terms of the open goverment licence - https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/

  • The murder trial continues, with the prosecution witness Finn Hawkins facing cross-examination by barristers Gabriella Hadden (for Aidan Johnson), Henry Irwin (for Bianca Jones) and Ivy Jewell (for Conor Williams).

    In Episode 8 we looked in detail at the first stage of questioning a witness - examination-in-chief - which is the process of eliciting from a witness their account of what took place.

    But as we saw, there can often be a difference between what a witness says in their written witness statement, and what they actually say in court. And Finn Hawkins was no exception.

    In this episode, we move to the next stage of questioning - Cross-Examination. How does cross-examination really work? What are the key purposes of cross-examination, as well as the restrictions imposed in criminal cases? And why, sometimes, is less really more?

    We also discover the hidden power of the final stage of questioning - Re-Examination - and why both Henry Irwin and Ivy Jewell - on behalf of their clients Bianca and Conor - will have to tiptoe extremely carefully.

    And, as often arises in criminal cases, there is a surprise in store, a revelation which goes to the heart of the case against our three defendants, and the murder charge which they all face. As the case proceeds, we’ll find out that criminal cases can be far from a search for the truth.

    Thank you for listening.
    I very much hope that you enjoy this episode.

    NOTES
    Throughout this podcast I have referred to legislation, cases and to further information and reading. Please refer to the links in the Legal Notes below to access this information yourself.

    You will also find a list of the characters in this podcast below to help you.

    CHARACTERS
    Defendants -
    Aidan Johnson - (visually described at the scene as white, dark hair and a pink shirt)
    Bianca Jones - (visually described at the scene as white, slim, wearing a green top and with long dark hair)
    Conor Williams - (visually described at the scene as black, short hair, white t-shirt and stocky build)

    Prosecution Barrister -
    Keith Lowe

    Defence Barristers -
    Gabriella Hadden - representing Aidan
    Henry Irwin - representing Bianca
    Ivy Jewell - representing Conor

    Defence Solicitors -
    Georgina Hale - representing Aidan
    Holly Ibsen - representing Bianca
    Ramesh Jayanshankar - representing Conor

    The Deceased -
    Daniel Clarke - (visually described as having bright blond hair and dark clothing)

    Main Prosecution witnesses -
    Ethan Green (friend of Daniel Clarke)
    Finn Hawkins (friend of Daniel Clarke)

    LEGAL NOTES
    Cross-Examination -
    Part 2 C1 - rule C7 in the Bar Code of Conduct (Barristers - Not abusing your role as an advocate) https://www.barstandardsboard.org.uk/the-bsb-handbook.html?part=E3FF76D3-9538-4B97-94C02111664E5709&audience=&csrfToken=&q=

    s.41 Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 - restrictions on asking complainant’s in cases involving allegations of a sexual nature questions about their sexual history except with the leave (permission) of the court https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1999/23/section/41

    See also s.41 information from the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/rape-and-sexual-offences-chapter-11-sexual-history-complainants-section-41-yjcea

    s.34 Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 - prohibition on defendants in person cross-examining complaints in sexual cases https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1999/23/section/34

    s.35 Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 - prohibition on defendants in person cross-examining child complainants and other child witnesses https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1999/23/section/35

    s.36 Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 - Power of the court to prohibit in the interests of justice defendants in person cross-examining witnesses https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1999/23/section/36

    A Life of Crime: The memoirs of a High Court Judge - Sir Harry Ognall. Published by William Collins. (Interesting insight into cross-examination in the Peter Sutcliffe trial).

    Recommended John Mortimer Books -
    A Voyage Round My Father (play) (Penguin Classics)
    Clinging to the Wreckage (Autobiography Part 1) (Penguin)
    Rumpole of the Bailey series (Penguin)

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    Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

    I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.

    Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.

    The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this podcast are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.

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  • As the trial gets underway, the prosecution calls Finn Hawkins to give evidence, the first witness in the case against our three defendants, Aidan Johnson, Bianca Jones & Conor Williams, all of whom are accused of murdering 23 year old Daniel Clarke outside Bradley's Nightclub in the early hours of Saturday morning in late January.

    In this episode we follow the questioning by the prosecution of Finn Hawkins.

    And in this episode, we delve into trial advocacy:

    What exactly is examination-in-chief? What does it really mean not to lead a witness? What does it mean to ‘come up to proof’ and how do you elicit evidence from a forgetful or hostile witness?

    And, as we’ll find out, prosecution witnesses can say something that might surprise you. Finn Hawkins is no exception, and his new evidence will give the jury - and all the barristers - food for thought.

    As we move through the trial, we also look at the duties of a prosecution barrister and what it means to be ‘a minister of justice’, as well as the rules on when the defence can make an opening speech in a criminal trial. We know that our three defendants have a barrister and solicitor representing each of them, but who exactly represents each prosecution witness?

    As ever, thank you for listening.
    I very much hope that you enjoy this episode.

    NOTES
    Throughout this podcast I have referred to legislation, cases and to further information and reading. Please refer to the links in the Legal Notes below to access this information yourself.

    You will also find a list of the characters in this podcast below to help you.

    CHARACTERS
    Defendants -
    Aidan Johnson - (visually described at the scene as white, dark hair and a pink shirt)
    Bianca Jones - (visually described at the scene as white, slim, wearing a green top and with long dark hair)
    Conor Williams - (visually described at the scene as black, short hair, white t-shirt and stocky build)

    Prosecution Barrister -
    Keith Lowe

    Defence Barristers -
    Gabriella Hadden - representing Aidan
    Henry Irwin - representing Bianca
    Ivy Jewell - representing Conor

    Defence Solicitors -
    Georgina Hale - representing Aidan
    Holly Ibsen - representing Bianca
    Ramesh Jayanshankar - representing Conor

    The Deceased -
    Daniel Clarke - (visually described as having bright blond hair and dark clothing)

    Main Prosecution witnesses -
    Ethan Green (friend of Daniel Clarke)
    Finn Hawkins (friend of Daniel Clarke)

    LEGAL NOTES
    Defence Opening Speech -
    Criminal Procedure Rule 25.9(2)(g) - When the defence can make an opening speech in the Crown Court https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/759/rule/25.9/made

    Prosecution Duties -
    Farquharson Guidelines: the Role of Prosecuting Advocates https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/farquharson-guidelines-role-prosecuting-advocates
    Treasury Counsel https://www.cps.gov.uk/cps/treasury-counsel

    Memory Refreshing -
    s.139 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 - Refreshing the memory of a witness https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/section/139

    Hostile Witnesses -
    s.3 of the Criminal Procedure Act 1865 - Cross-examining your own ‘hostile’ witness during examinination-in-chief https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/28-29/18/section/3

    Eye Witnesses -
    R v Turnbull [1977] QB 224 - Turnbull Guidelines on CPS website https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/identification#:~:text=The%20Court%20of%20Appeal%20in,the%20quality%20of%20the%20identification.

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    PLEASE NOTE:
    It is a pleasure to hear from you and to answer your questions, but due to the matters set out below please understand that there are certain questions I am unable to respond to:

    Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

    I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.

    Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.

    The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this podcast are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.

    Thank you for your understanding.

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  • The trial begins. Today Aidan, Bianca and Conor face trial in the Crown Court on a single count of murder.After the end of Episode 6, Ethan Green - a vital prosecution witness - is now in a bit of bother himself, which causes more than a few problems for our prosecution barrister - Keith Lowe - in deciding how to proceed. But Ethan Green will soon be facing even greater problems himself.Join our solicitors Georgina Hale (for Aidan), Holly Ibsen (for Bianca) and Ramesh Jayanshankar (for Conor) as they work with our barristers Gabriella, Henry and Ivy to put the finishing touches to the defence cases. What is a Defence Statement? What does it contain and how does it differ from a defendant’s proof of evidence? As the case moves forwards, we discover that a defence is only as good as the information available to support it. And who decides on the defence - the client, the solicitor or the barrister? Does it really matter whether a lawyer believes in their client’s innocence? Find out in this episode.What are custody time limits? How long can a person remanded in custody be held before trial? Can these time limits be extended and what happens if they expire?Join us in court as the jury are sworn in, ready to hear the trial of Aidan, Bianca and Conor. What will the judge say to the jury and what warnings will they receive? Is it possible to object to a juror, or is it just a question of getting what you are given?And today the case starts. Listen as the prosecution barrister - Keith Lowe - opens the prosecution case to the jury, the start of the murder trial against Aidan Johnson, Bianca Jones and Conor Williams. By the end of this episode, you’ll have a good idea of the impact of the case on all of them, and - in truth - this is just the beginning.NOTESCriminal cases backlog -HM Courts & Tribunals Service - backlog of cases November 2023https://www.gov.uk/government/statistical-data-sets/hmcts-management-information-november-2023 Custody Time Limits -s.22 of the Prosecution of Offences Act 1985 - Custody Time Limitshttps://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/23/section/22/enacted s.43 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998 (amendments to s.22 above)https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/37/section/43 Prosecution of Offences (Custody Time Limits) Regulations 1987 (SI 1987 No. 299) (these contain the applicable time limits) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1987/299/contents/made s.25 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 (No bail for defendants charged with or convicted of homicide or rape after previous conviction of such offences)https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/33/section/25 Manchester Crown Court, ex parte McDonald [1998] EWHC 319 (Admin), Lord Bingham CJ. (The approach to extending Custody Time Limits) https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/1998/3532.html Representing clients -Bar Code of Conduct - Part 2 Rule C15 - barristers acting in the best interests of their clientshttps://www.barstandardsboard.org.uk/the-bsb-handbook.html?part=E3FF76D3-9538-4B97-94C02111664E5709&audience=&csrfToken=&q= Defence Statements -s. 6A of the Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996 - Contents of a Defence Statement https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/25/section/6A Rule 15.4 Criminal Procedure Rules (Defence Statements) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/759/rule/15.4/made Defence Statement Form (template) https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/defence-statement Defence Witnesses - s.6C of the Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996 - Notification of Defence Witnesses https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/25/section/6C (see also rule 15.4 Criminal Procedure Rules above)Defence Witnesses Notice (template) https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/defence-witness-notice Adverse Inferences -s.11 of the Criminal Procedure and Investigations Act 1996 - Adverse inferences from Defence Statements and Defence Witness Notices https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/25/section/11 Witness Summons and Arrest -s.2 of the Criminal Procedure (Attendance of Witnesses) Act 1965 - Issue of a Crown Court Witness Summons https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1965/69/section/2 s.4 of the Criminal Procedure (Attendance of Witnesses) Act 1965 - Warrant of Arrest for Unwilling Witness https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1965/69/section/4 Witness Summons form https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-n20-witness-summons The Jury -Crown Court Compendium Part 1, Chapter 2 (Jury Management); Chapter 3 (Trial Management) https://www.judiciary.uk/guidance-and-resources/crown-court-compendium/ ‘Your Legal Responsibilities as a Juror’ (A Notice given to all Jurors) https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5fbe9ee0e90e077ed7351b0a/j001-eng.pdf ADDITIONAL READING - DEFENCE-BARRISTER.CO.UKFor additional detailed reading on many aspects of what is covered throughout this series, please go to Defence-Barrister.co.uk https://www.defence-barrister.co.uk written by Chris Kessling, Criminal Barrister.PLEASE NOTE:It is a pleasure to hear from you and to answer your questions, but due to the matters set out below please understand that there are certain questions I am unable to respond to:Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this podcast are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.Thank you for your understanding.CONTACTEmail: [email protected] https://twitter.com/defencebarInstagram https://www.instagram.com/defencebar/COPYRIGHTMusic and content created and recorded by Chris Kessling © 2024. 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  • As Aidan, Bianca and Conor head for trial at the Crown Court on a charge of murder, the prosecution and defence are preparing their cases.

    In this episode, we focus on evidence, and the potential problems with evidence when putting a case together. How does the prosecution prove a case to the criminal standard of proof, and how do they go about building a case which is strong enough to convince a jury to convict? What exactly does a prosecution case consist of?

    The next hearing before trial will be the PTPH (or Plea and Trial Preparation Hearing), which is the main case management hearing at the Crown Court, when the indictment is put to the defendants and where the judge gives directions to ensure that both the prosecution and defence are ready for trial.

    Not only do we look at how the prosecution builds a case, but we also start to look at how the defence prepares. How do they approach their task of defining the defence, and preparing to undermine the prosecution evidence to such an extent that the jury will find a defendant not guilty of the crime they are charged with. During this episode and when the trial gets underway, we’ll find out.

    And what happens if a defendant or prosecution witness has previous convictions or some other troubling past? We’ll look at this too - at what is known as Bad Character evidence - and the implications it can have for a case going to trial.

    What approach should be taken when a witness is unwilling to attend court, or becomes so unreliable that it would be dangerous to call them as a witness? What are Special Measures and how are they used to help witnesses give evidence? And is it possible to introduce a witness’s written witness statement at trial when you cannot get that witness to court? This introduces the Hearsay Rule, but like with most rules, there are exceptions.

    As we will find out, there’s more than a few witness problems in this case and, by the end of this episode, we’ll discover why the prosecution have at least one very good reason to be concerned.

    NOTES
    - CHARACTERS
    Defendants -
    Aidan Johnson - (visually described at the scene as white, dark hair and a pink shirt)
    Bianca Jones - (visually described at the scene as white, slim, wearing a green top and with long dark hair)
    Conor Williams - (visually described at the scene as black, short hair, white t-shirt and stocky build)

    Prosecution Barrister -
    Keith Lowe

    Barristers for the defendants -
    Gabriella Hadden - representing Aidan
    Henry Irwin - representing Bianca
    Ivy Jewell - representing Conor

    Solicitors for defendants -
    Georgina Hale - representing Aidan
    Holly Ibsen - representing Bianca
    Ramesh Jayanshankar - representing Conor

    The deceased -
    Daniel Clarke - (visually described as having bright blond hair and dark clothing)

    Main Prosecution witnesses -
    Ethan Green (friend of Daniel Clarke)
    Finn Hawkins (friend of Daniel Clarke)

    Unused Material Witnesses
    George Ingram (nightclub security)
    Harvey Jenkins (nightclub security)

    LEGAL NOTES
    Links to statutes and other material referred to in this podcast:

    PTPH -
    Criminal Practice Directions 2023, 5.2 Case progression and trial preparation - https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Criminal-Practice-Directions-2023-1.pdf

    PTPH forms (versions for a single defendant or for cases involving multiple defendants) https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/plea-and-trial-preparation-hearings-ptph-for-1-to-5-defendants

    Written witness statements -
    s.9 of the Criminal Justice Act 1967 - Proof by written statement https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/80/section/9

    Criminal Procedure Rule 16.2 - Content of written witness statement
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/759/rule/16.2/made

    Template - a blank s.9 statement https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/written-witness-statement

    s.89 of the Criminal Justice Act 1967 - offence of providing a false witness statement https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/80/section/89

    Hearsay -
    s. 116 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 - Admissibility of hearsay evidence where a witness is unavailable https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/section/116

    Application to rely on hearsay evidence https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-to-introduce-hearsay-evidence

    Bad Character -
    s.98 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 - meaning of Bad Character https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/section/98

    S.112 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 - meaning of ‘misconduct’ https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/section/112

    s.101 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 - Applying to introduce the Bad Character of a defendant https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/section/101/enacted

    Application form to introduce a defendant’s Bad Character https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-to-introduce-evidence-of-a-defendants-bad-character

    R v Hanson [2005] EWCA Crim 824 https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2005/824.html

    s.100 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 - Applying to introduce the Bad Character of a non-defendant (such as a witness) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/section/100/enacted

    Application form to introduce a non-defendant’s defendant’s Bad Character https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/application-to-introduce-evidence-of-a-non-defendants-bad-character

    Special Measures -
    Chapter 1 of the Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 - Special Measures for young, vulnerable or intimidated witnesses https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1999/23/part/II/chapter/I

    Special Measures Application Form https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/application-for-a-special-measures-direction

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    For additional detailed reading on many aspects of what is covered throughout this series, please go to Defence-Barrister.co.uk https://www.defence-barrister.co.uk written by Chris Kessling, Criminal Barrister.

    PLEASE NOTE:

    It is a pleasure to hear from you and to answer your questions, but due to the matters set out below please understand that there are certain questions I am unable to respond to:

    Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

    I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.

    Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.

    The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this podcast are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.

    Thank you for your understanding.

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  • Barristers and solicitors are the principal criminal lawyers in the criminal justice system. How do they work together and individually, what are the similarities and what sets them apart?

    As Aidan, Bianca and Conor arrive at the Crown Court, they meet their barristers Gabriella Hadden for Aidan, Henry Irwin for Bianca, and Ivy Jewell for Conor.

    It’s now time for the bail application in the Crown Court. What is the test for granting bail in standard criminal cases, and is the test any different for murder?

    Hear the bail application take place and find out whether our three defendants are remanded in custody or on bail. And what is it that Conor says to Bianca at the end of this episode? It might just give you a taste of things to come.

    For all three defendants, we march on towards trial.


    Thank you for listening and I hope you enjoy this episode.

    Throughout this podcast I have referred to information and various pieces of legislation. Please refer to the links in the notes below to access this information yourself.

    NOTES

    Barristers -
    Direct Access Barristers https://www.defence-barrister.co.uk/direct-public-access-barristers

    Bail -
    s.4 of the Bail Act 1976 https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1976/63/section/4

    Schedule 1 of the Bail Act 1976 https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1976/63/schedule/1

    s.51 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 - Witness Intimidation (s.51(1)) and Taking Revenge (s.51(2)) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/33/section/51

    s.25 of the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 - No bail for defendants charged with or convicted of homicide or rape after previous conviction of such offences https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1994/33/section/25

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    Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

    I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.

    Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.

    Thank you for your understanding.

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  • In Episode 4 we follow the defendants Aidan, Bianca and Conor - now charged with murder - to the magistrates’ court for their first court appearance.

    Introducing the magistrates’ court and the Crown Court, what types (or classifications) of offences do they deal with? What is a summary offence, an either-way offence and an indictable-only offence?

    Who are the judges in the magistrates’ court and Crown Court? Introducing magistrates, District Judges, Recorders, Circuit Judges and High Court Judges.

    Do all cases start in the magistrates and, if so, why? When can a defendant elect trial by jury, and when can a defendant be compelled to go to the Crown Court for trial or sentence?

    What are courts’ sentencing powers and how do they decide what sentence is likely to be passed?

    And how does the magistrates’ court deal with defendants charged with murder? Aidan, Bianca and Conor are about to find out.

    We introduce the first procedural steps towards Crown Court trial, the provision of information about the prosecution case and the early requirements to provide defendants with unused material, i.e. information favourable to the defence and inimical to the prosecution.

    In Episode 4 we take another step closer to trial.

    Thank you for listening and I hope you enjoy this episode.

    Throughout this podcast I have referred to legislation, cases and relevant guidance. Please refer to the links in the notes below to access this information yourself.

    PODCAST NOTES

    Justices’ Legal Adviser -

    Criminal Procedure Rule 2.12 - Role of Justices’ Legal Adviser https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/759/rule/2.12

    CRIMINAL PRACTICE DIRECTIONS 2015 VI - Role of Justices’ Legal Adviser https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/924047/crim-practice-directions-VI-trial-2015.pdf

    Judges -

    What do I call a judge? Judiciary.uk https://www.judiciary.uk/guidance-and-resources/what-do-i-call-a-judge

    Individual Offences -

    s.22A of the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980 - Low value shoplifting can be tried before a jury
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/43/section/22A

    s.187 Online Safety Act 2023 - new offence created in s.66A Sexual Offences Act 2003 of Sending etc photograph or film of genitals https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2023/50/section/187/enacted

    Allocation -

    s.17A of the Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980 - ‘Plea before Venue’ procedure https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/43/section/17A

    S.18 Magistrates’ Courts Act 1980 - Allocation (‘mode of trial’) Hearing
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/43/section/18

    Allocation Guideline - Determining whether cases should be dealt with by a magistrates’ court or the Crown Court https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/overarching-guides/magistrates-court/item/allocation/

    Sentencing Guidelines -

    Sentencing Guidelines - Common Offences
    https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/outlines/

    S.14 Sentencing Act 2020 (the Sentencing Code) - Committal for Sentence https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2020/17/section/14

    GBH Sentencing Guideline https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/inflicting-grievous-bodily-harm-unlawful-wounding-racially-or-religiously-aggravated-gbh-unlawful-wounding/

    Criminal Procedure Rules Part 8, rule 8.2(1)(a) - Advance Disclosure of Prosecution Case / Initial Details https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/759/rule/8.2/made

    Advance Disclosure of the Prosecution Case -

    Criminal Procedure Rules Part 8, rule 8.3 - meaning and content of ‘Initial Details’
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/759/rule/8.3/made

    Prosecution Disclosure of Unused Material -

    Attorney General’s Guidelines on Disclosure (For investigators, prosecutors and defence practitioners) - Common Law Duty of Disclosure (paragraphs 78 and 79)
    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/attorney-generals-guidelines-on-disclosure

    Bail in Murder Cases -

    s. 115 Coroners and Justice Act 2009 - Bail decisions in murder cases to be made by Crown Court judge https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2009/25/section/115

    Youth Justice -

    Youth Court information from the Magistrates Association https://www.magistrates-association.org.uk/about-magistrates/jurisdictions/youth-court/

    The Youth Court Bench Book - provides legal guidance for magistrates who sit in the youth court https://www.judiciary.uk/guidance-and-resources/youth-court-bench-book-and-pronouncement-cards/

    Youth Defendants in the Crown Court Bench Book - contains comprehensive guidance about youths in the Crown Court. https://www.judiciary.uk/guidance-and-resources/youth-defendants-in-the-crown-court/

    The Crown Court Compendium Part II: Sentencing (section S2.3 Remission to Youth Court; section S4 Disposals for Youths). https://www.judiciary.uk/guidance-and-resources/crown-court-compendium/

    Equal Treatment Bench Book - Chapter 2 Children, Young People and Vulnerable Adults https://www.judiciary.uk/about-the-judiciary/diversity/equal-treatment-bench-book/

    Sentencing Children and Young People (Sentencing Council overarching Sentencing Guideline) https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/overarching-guides/magistrates-court/item/sentencing-children-and-young-people/

    Youth crime information from the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) - https://www.cps.gov.uk/crime-info/youth-crime

    Youth Court information from the Youth Justice Legal Centre - https://yjlc.uk/resources/legal-terms-z/youth-court


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    For additional detailed reading on many aspects of what is covered throughout this series, please go to Defence-Barrister.co.uk https://www.defence-barrister.co.uk written by Chris Kessling, Criminal Barrister.


    PLEASE NOTE:

    It is a pleasure to hear from you and to answer your questions, but due to the matters set out below please understand that there are certain questions I am unable to respond to:

    Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

    I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.

    Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.

    Thank you for your understanding.

    CONTACT

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    External links to (and provision of information from) .gov.uk websites, the sentencing council website (sentencingcouncil.org.uk), the Judiciary website (judiciary.uk) and other information subject to Crown copyright is provided under the terms of the open goverment licence. https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3/

  • Episode 3 - Murder

    In Episode 3 we continue on our journey through the criminal justice system in England & Wales, with our suspects Aidan, Bianca and Conor no longer facing an allegation of Wounding with Intent, but instead facing a charge of murder, which upon conviction carries a mandatory life sentence.

    The definition of murder is the unlawful killing with malice aforethought by a sane person of another human being.

    What is ‘unlawful’ killing and can killing another human being ever be lawful?

    What if there are multiple causes of death? When can a defendant be said to have caused a death and when do other factors break the link between the act of a defendant and the eventual outcome? We look at multiple real case examples for the answer.

    And what of the mens rea (or guilty mind) which must be proved for a defendant to be found guilty of murder? What if death was a wholly unintended consequence? Find the answer in this episode.

    Even if a defendant is proved to have killed another human being with the requisite intent, are there any further defences open to them? We look at what are known as ‘partial defences’ (which reduce murder to manslaughter) of diminished responsibility and loss of control.

    Will Aidan, Bianca and Conor, or any one of them, be charged with murder and, if so, what will happen to them? Will they go home or will the police keep them in custody until their first appearance in court. In this episode, we take our final step before entering the criminal courts.

    Thank you for listening and I hope you enjoy this episode.

    Throughout this podcast I have referred to legislation, cases and relevant guidance. Please refer to the links in the notes below to access this information yourself.

    NOTES

    Murder -

    s.1 of the Law Reform (Year and a Day Rule) Act 1996 - Abolition of the ‘year and a day rule’ for murder https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1996/19/section/1

    Robert Konrad Blaue [1975] EWCA Crim 3 - Causation (refusal of blood transfusion)
    https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/1975/3.html

    Berlinah Wallace [2018] EWCA Crim 690 - Causation (voluntary euthanasia)
    https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Crim/2018/690.html

    s. 58 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003 (prosecution appeal against trial judge’s rulings) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/44/section/58

    s. 29 of the Offences Against the Persons Act 1861 (throwing corrosive fluid on a person, with intent to do grievous bodily harm) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/24-25/100/section/29

    R v Berlinah Wallace, Bristol Crown Court, 23 May 2018 - Sentencing Remarks https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/r-v-wallace-sentencing-1.pdf

    Cheshire [1991] 93 Cr. App. R. 251 - Causation - Full judgment not publicly available, but Wikipedia contains a helpful summary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Cheshire

    Partial defences to murder -

    Diminished Responsibility (under s.2 of the Homicide Act 1957) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/5-6/11/section/2 AS AMENDED BY s.52 of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009 https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2009/25/section/52 (S.2 on the gov.uk website is not updated, so look at s.52 instead)

    R -v- Valdo Calocane, Nottingham Crown Court, 25 January 2024 - Sentencing remarks (Diminished Responsibility) https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Calocane-sentencing-remarks.pdf

    Loss of Control (under sections 54 and 55 of the Coroners and Justice Act 2009) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2009/25/part/2/chapter/1/crossheading/partial-defence-to-murder-loss-of-control

    Killing as part of a Suicide Pact (under s.4 of the Homicide Act 1957) https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Eliz2/5-6/11/section/4

    Helpful further reading -

    The Crown Court Compendium (Guidance for Judges in Crown Court Trials) - https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Crown-Court-Compendium-Part-I.pdf

    Charge and following charge -

    s.38 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) - Duties of Custody Officer after Charge https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/60/section/38

    s. 46 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE) - Detention after charge
    https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/60/section/46

    ADDITIONAL READING - DEFENCE-BARRISTER.CO.UK

    For additional detailed reading on many aspects of what is covered throughout this series, please go to Defence-Barrister.co.uk https://www.defence-barrister.co.uk written by Chris Kessling, Criminal Barrister.

    PLEASE NOTE:

    It is a pleasure to hear from you and to answer your questions, but due to the matters set out below please understand that there are certain questions I am unable to respond to:

    Please bear in mind that this podcast is for general information purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

    I am unable to provide legal advice on your specific case. If you require legal advice about a specific case or legal problem it is vital that you seek legal advice from a legal professional, such as a barrister or solicitor.

    Due to contempt of court provisions and other legal requirements, I am limited in what I can say about ongoing legal proceedings in any court.

    Thank you for your understanding.

    CONTACT

    Get in touch at:

    Email: [email protected]

    X https://twitter.com/defencebar

    Instagram https://www.instagram.com/defencebar/

    COPYRIGHT

    Music and content created and recorded by Chris Kessling © 2024. All rights reserved.

    External links to (and provision of information from) .gov.uk websites, the sentencing council website (sentencingcouncil.org.uk), the Judiciary website (judiciary.uk) and other information subject to Crown copyright is provided under the terms of the open goverment licence.

  • What does the offence of wounding with intent really mean in law, and how do lawyers analyse the actus reus (guilty act) and the mens rea (guilty mind) of an offence? How are the prosecution able to rely on a law that came into existence over 150 years ago? You may be surprised!

    What is meant by Joint Enterprise? How do the prosecution seek to impose blame on suspects who were not those who actually committed the ultimate act of violence, whether it be a shooting, stabbing or an attack with a bottle used as a weapon? Find out the answer here.

    And what approach will Aidan, Bianca and Conor take in the Police interview after having the benefit of legal advice? Will they answer questions or choose to make ‘no comment’?

    After that, will they be charged and, if not, can they still be held by the Police? Or must they be released either on bail (with or without conditions) or ‘under investigation’?

    How do the prosecution go about deciding whether a suspect should be charged? We look at the two-stage ‘Full Code’ test and also how threshold charging decisions are made in urgent cases.

    Finally, will Aidan, Bianca and Conor be charged and, if so, what charge will they face? The final decision might surprise you.

  • This episode starts with a crime, or an allegation of a crime, and moves through the process of arrest and detention at the police station. You will discover what the law really says about arrest and what rights are afforded to citizens who are detained and taken into police custody. What rights do they really have? How long can a suspect be kept in custody without charge? What does the right to legal advice really mean and how can it help? How might the police abuse those rights? Why might a suspect stay silent and, if they do, what are the consequences? And meet Aidan, Bianca & Conor and why they are about to face questioning for a serious allegation of wounding with intent, the allegation that will take one or more of them on a journey through the criminal justice system in England & Wales and all the way to trial by jury, sentence and appeal. 

    Throughout this podcast I have referred to legislation, cases and relevant Codes of Conduct. Please refer to the links in the notes to access this information yourself.

    For additional detailed reading on many aspects of what is covered throughout this series of podcasts, please go to Defence-Barrister.co.uk

    See podcast notes for links to cases, statutes and codes of practice referred to in this podcast. You can also find these notes at https://www.defence-barrister.co.uk/defence-barrister-podcast

  • How does the criminal justice system really work? From the police station, to trial, sentence and all the way to appeals, criminal barrister Chris Kessling takes you through the world of the criminal courts in England & Wales.

    Using real case examples, this podcast will enable you to navigate the criminal courts yourself and fully understand how they operate in practice.

    If you are accused of a crime, are a victim of crime, or are going to court as a witness - if you want to know the details of what to expect at trial, sentencing or the appeals process - this weekly podcast will bring the whole court system to life.

    Backed up by the hugely popular Defence-Barrister.co.uk website, the criminal justice system will never have been made so clear.

    Episode 1 coming 31 January 2024!